Re: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update
Your getting a different error, which is actually the same one I get on my production server. However, I don't have to modify any filenames or ANY code to get this error. I think it happens when there is a cache pop in the template cache. That's my guess also and I think renaming the cfc does a cache pop so the bug can be duplicated quickly. -- Mack ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340026 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
coldfusion json truncates leading zeroes
Hi All - I am using jquery jqgrid with Coldfusion. I have a cfc whose return format is JSON. I have a database column of type varchar, but it returns values which starts with zeroes. On displaying data, the leading zeroes are truncated. I verified in firebug, the JSON response itself is cutting off the leading zeroes. Any suggestions or thoughts on this? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340027 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: coldfusion json truncates leading zeroes
My first thought would be prepend a char (perhaps a ~ or something) to the string that you later remove in order to preserve the zeros. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:52 AM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All - I am using jquery jqgrid with Coldfusion. I have a cfc whose return format is JSON. I have a database column of type varchar, but it returns values which starts with zeroes. On displaying data, the leading zeroes are truncated. I verified in firebug, the JSON response itself is cutting off the leading zeroes. Any suggestions or thoughts on this? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340028 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: coldfusion json truncates leading zeroes
I've run into things like this aswell, like true/false false values being converted to no/yes via json. What I ended up doing was server side, I would do a find and replace for the strings I knew would have issues, like true and replace them with ^^%true, on the client side, I would then do the same thing to remove the extra characters from the JSON before decoding. This was the only way I could get the JSON down to the client in the original format.. Brook -Original Message- From: fun and learning [mailto:funandlrnn...@gmail.com] Sent: December-13-10 7:52 AM To: cf-talk Subject: coldfusion json truncates leading zeroes Hi All - I am using jquery jqgrid with Coldfusion. I have a cfc whose return format is JSON. I have a database column of type varchar, but it returns values which starts with zeroes. On displaying data, the leading zeroes are truncated. I verified in firebug, the JSON response itself is cutting off the leading zeroes. Any suggestions or thoughts on this? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340029 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF OOP Best practice - reference tables
I have a table, members which I need to extract emails for a particular group. To get the emails I need to use reference tables. I might need to pull more information at a later date so I was going to return a query or an array of Beans to include everything from the members table. The query would look something like this.. select email, mem_id, ... from members m join members_group mg on m.mem_id = mg.mem_id join groups g on mg.group_id = g.group_id where g.group_id = 12 So in taking an OOP approach, would the best way be modifying the getAttributesByQuery function and throwing in a group_id argument in the Gateway, modifying the query to include these 2 reference tables in the argument is not null? Or creating a whole new function to populate a structure of Member beans, a getMemberByGroup function? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340030 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: index.cfm being hacked (now application.cfm)
I went through this last year. It's a nightmare of possibilities. I can save you all a TON of time right here. I thought they were targeting just files named index.cfm so I changed all my home page filenames to something else. Whatever the process was it got wise to it within days. I changed file and folder permissions, I changed this and that, I even shut off Cold Fusion to see what would happen. It's not coming from the server side It's coming right through your FTP channel. Simple and clever. If you don't want to have to fight security go through the front door. That's what they are doing. If you visit an infected site it silently downloads through their javascript a worm to your computer. It looks for FTP configuration files. Cute, Dreamweaver, whatever, if it's FTP this worm finds it. Then every 24 hours it, or someone, logs in to your sites using FTP and carefully appends your default pages with the malicious hijack script (the script has been getting more and more sophisticated it changes all the time so detecting a pattern is impossible. The client calls you in anger, you find it, freak out, replace the files with good ones, even turn off write access to the file, and in a day or so you it happens again. You can spend the better part of your lives trying to figure out how the attacker is getting onto the server. The answer is under your nose. Wipe and reload the OS on any computer in your company that has FTP access to the infected sites. I haven't found a scanner that will detect this thing yet. Better safe than sorry. Wipe and reload. THEN - make it a policy to NEVER store an FTP password again. I manually enter all my FTP passwords now. It's a few seconds here and there, sometimes it's a pain, but I haven't had a problem with an infected site since. If you find this helpful please let me know off-list. Thank you. Nick -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:38 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: index.cfm being hacked (now application.cfm) Is the site in question on a SHARED Server? I had this issue a while ago and it wasn't my site, but someone else's and it rewrote every default page on the entire server no matter what language. Just a thought. They could have modified the exploit to not only do index.html, index.cfm, etc. but say, application.cfm, etc. It took the hosting company a while to track down the actual site that got hacked. Terry -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:joshnathan...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 4:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: index.cfm being hacked (now application.cfm) AFAIK (kinda guessing here) Google doesn't sniff the files themselves, they just hit a link and sniff the resulting HTML. So anything that's output to the resultant page, whether on the index.cfm or application.cfm, will be picked up by Google. -- Josh On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Mike Little m...@nzsolutions.co.nz wrote: thanks for that mary. this seems like a good idea. i will contact hostek today to try and have the ftp restricted. because they are modifying just the application file now, i think it must be an auto script as when they were attacking the index file the links were very visible to google. it doesn't make sense now to include their links in the application?? (changed the ftp password for the umpteenth time today as well). Hhm, if they are getting in via FTP, which is certainly a strong possibility as well, you might want to try turning it off for that site, or at least restricting it to only the IP addresses that use it. I have seen numerous attacks over unsecured FTP accounts, so only use SFTP and restricted by IP these days and it's definitely helped greatly reduce such issues. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340031 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF OOP Best practice - reference tables
Never mind, I guess I'm good... found this interesting website/wiki http://www.objectorientedcoldfusion.org/wiki/Gateway http://www.objectorientedcoldfusion.org/wiki/GatewayPretty good info On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Greg Morphis gmorp...@gmail.com wrote: I have a table, members which I need to extract emails for a particular group. To get the emails I need to use reference tables. I might need to pull more information at a later date so I was going to return a query or an array of Beans to include everything from the members table. The query would look something like this.. select email, mem_id, ... from members m join members_group mg on m.mem_id = mg.mem_id join groups g on mg.group_id = g.group_id where g.group_id = 12 So in taking an OOP approach, would the best way be modifying the getAttributesByQuery function and throwing in a group_id argument in the Gateway, modifying the query to include these 2 reference tables in the argument is not null? Or creating a whole new function to populate a structure of Member beans, a getMemberByGroup function? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340032 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: coldfusion json truncates leading zeroes
There was some... issues with CF and JSON. For the most part, they should be completely fixed in you use CF 901 + CHF. The CHF is the critical part. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Brook Davies cft...@logiforms.com wrote: I've run into things like this aswell, like true/false false values being converted to no/yes via json. What I ended up doing was server side, I would do a find and replace for the strings I knew would have issues, like true and replace them with ^^%true, on the client side, I would then do the same thing to remove the extra characters from the JSON before decoding. This was the only way I could get the JSON down to the client in the original format.. Brook -Original Message- From: fun and learning [mailto:funandlrnn...@gmail.com] Sent: December-13-10 7:52 AM To: cf-talk Subject: coldfusion json truncates leading zeroes Hi All - I am using jquery jqgrid with Coldfusion. I have a cfc whose return format is JSON. I have a database column of type varchar, but it returns values which starts with zeroes. On displaying data, the leading zeroes are truncated. I verified in firebug, the JSON response itself is cutting off the leading zeroes. Any suggestions or thoughts on this? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340033 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF Chart
Is there a way to get some spacing between my Y Axis Title and my Y Axis Labels? CF is putting the title but up against the data. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340034 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Chart
Try using the chart editor. It allows for a great level of customization. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: Is there a way to get some spacing between my Y Axis Title and my Y Axis Labels? CF is putting the title but up against the data. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340035 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF Chart
Try using the chart editor. What chart editor, where? Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340036 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Chart
In your cfinstall there is a charting folder. In there is a webcharts.bat or webcharts.sh executable. This launches a chart designer. cfchart supports the XML styles it generates. Search my blog for charts and you will see that 99% of my blog entries on How do I do X with cfchart involve using this editor. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: Try using the chart editor. What chart editor, where? Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340037 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF Chart
Thanks. I found it. Had not idea that was in there at all. Adobe documentation rocks. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340038 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF Chart
Me either never seen that before, will have to have a play now. I notice it only generates JSP and not CFML though. Russ -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: 13 December 2010 20:02 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CF Chart Thanks. I found it. Had not idea that was in there at all. Adobe documentation rocks. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340039 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Chart
Hopefully it's easier to use then it was in v7. I remember it being pretty cryptic. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Me either never seen that before, will have to have a play now. I notice it only generates JSP and not CFML though. Russ -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: 13 December 2010 20:02 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CF Chart Thanks. I found it. Had not idea that was in there at all. Adobe documentation rocks. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340040 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: index.cfm being hacked (now application.cfm)
Prevention is better than cure, having a decent Anti Malware product with real time scanning will avoid this situation altogether. If you use something like Clamwin or other free products which only do scheduled scanning and no real time protection then you are vulnerable to any malware on websites or in email or anything that is being executed now. Products like Kaspersky Internet Security or Bit Defender will stop malware like this dead in their tracks, not only do that scan for malware and virus on your system, but they monitor all executing applications in real time for suspicious activity, scan your internet traffic for malware, injections, phishing and block known malware sites. I would also recommend using a secure password storage program for storing all your logins, bank details etc so they are not in plain text anywhere on your system and thus not accessible to any old script that might get onto your system or worse if your laptop got stolen. I use a program called ewallet which is the most flexible tool I have found for storing just about any type of details and allows you to sync multiple pc's via FTP as well as mobile devices and USB memory stick support, but there are plenty of other free ones out there just for storing logins and passwords. Russ -Original Message- From: Nick Call [mailto:n...@accessutah.com] Sent: 13 December 2010 17:37 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: index.cfm being hacked (now application.cfm) I went through this last year. It's a nightmare of possibilities. I can save you all a TON of time right here. I thought they were targeting just files named index.cfm so I changed all my home page filenames to something else. Whatever the process was it got wise to it within days. I changed file and folder permissions, I changed this and that, I even shut off Cold Fusion to see what would happen. It's not coming from the server side It's coming right through your FTP channel. Simple and clever. If you don't want to have to fight security go through the front door. That's what they are doing. If you visit an infected site it silently downloads through their javascript a worm to your computer. It looks for FTP configuration files. Cute, Dreamweaver, whatever, if it's FTP this worm finds it. Then every 24 hours it, or someone, logs in to your sites using FTP and carefully appends your default pages with the malicious hijack script (the script has been getting more and more sophisticated it changes all the time so detecting a pattern is impossible. The client calls you in anger, you find it, freak out, replace the files with good ones, even turn off write access to the file, and in a day or so you it happens again. You can spend the better part of your lives trying to figure out how the attacker is getting onto the server. The answer is under your nose. Wipe and reload the OS on any computer in your company that has FTP access to the infected sites. I haven't found a scanner that will detect this thing yet. Better safe than sorry. Wipe and reload. THEN - make it a policy to NEVER store an FTP password again. I manually enter all my FTP passwords now. It's a few seconds here and there, sometimes it's a pain, but I haven't had a problem with an infected site since. If you find this helpful please let me know off-list. Thank you. Nick -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 7:38 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: index.cfm being hacked (now application.cfm) Is the site in question on a SHARED Server? I had this issue a while ago and it wasn't my site, but someone else's and it rewrote every default page on the entire server no matter what language. Just a thought. They could have modified the exploit to not only do index.html, index.cfm, etc. but say, application.cfm, etc. It took the hosting company a while to track down the actual site that got hacked. Terry -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:joshnathan...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 4:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: index.cfm being hacked (now application.cfm) AFAIK (kinda guessing here) Google doesn't sniff the files themselves, they just hit a link and sniff the resulting HTML. So anything that's output to the resultant page, whether on the index.cfm or application.cfm, will be picked up by Google. -- Josh On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Mike Little m...@nzsolutions.co.nz wrote: thanks for that mary. this seems like a good idea. i will contact hostek today to try and have the ftp restricted. because they are modifying just the application file now, i think it must be an auto script as when they were attacking the index file the links were very visible to google. it doesn't make sense now to include their links in the application?? (changed the ftp password for the umpteenth time today as well). Hhm, if they are getting in via FTP, which is certainly a strong possibility as well, you might
Re: CF Chart
That doesn't matter though. It generates XML for the style which you can use in your CFM pages. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Me either never seen that before, will have to have a play now. I notice it only generates JSP and not CFML though. Russ -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: 13 December 2010 20:02 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CF Chart ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340042 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ProFlashUpload
Yep, I had numerous problems with that exact issue. At one point that tool was very solid but they introduced some issues in it at some point and working with the author to resolve it was a huge waste of time and cost. They gave up and should not be selling it anymore. But now with CF9, you do not need it at all with the cffileupload tag. -- Dan O'Keefe On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:42 AM, M P miketot...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone familiar with ProFlashUpload? I downloaded it and got it working yesterday and it was working fine. Today, it only works in IE. Yesterday I know it was working in Firefox, but today, it no longer does. It appears to work (no visible errors), but it doesn't actually upload the file. There's an error log that says something about the session timing out: The current proFlashUpload session has timed out. Please reload the interface and try again. Reference 'SESSION.ProFlashUpload.vA6935FFAD6679CB9C4A6ACDEB0785179' not found. But as far as I can tell, the session is properly configured. And again, it works fine in IE. Anyone else seen this? I emailed the developer and he responded that he couldn't be bothered to help (which is odd since his website explicitly says to email him if you need further help). Normally that would be enough for me to simply find another solution, but in this case, it really does seem to be the best solution I've found for uploading multiple files at once. Unless anyone has other suggestions for that as well? thanks, Mike ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340043 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
