Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?
Or it could be seen as a negative sign that after ten years CF still hasn't been able to shake off the cf is dying stigma. True this. Scour the web - how many other languages have their devoted developers constantly asking this same question over and over? PHP? Ruby? Java? Etc.? Some HAVE actually died in the broadest sense of the word, by being about as low on the technologies chosen for new projects totem pole, but their communities just keep chugging away without a peep, like factory worker children. It's pretty funny how us CFers are always looking in the mirror like some collective Stuart Smalley or something. I haven't used CF9 yet (gasp! He's not on the bandwagon! GET HIM!!), but I know and have come to accept the limitations of CF8 and earlier, and I still make a huge, comfortable living writing useful code in this language. I'll just start to feel good again when someone on one of my favored lurk lists will hold up that damned mirror. CFer's, listen up! You're Good Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You!! ;) Tongue in cheek, of course. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340904 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?
LOL Stuart Smalley, 2000-present: I don't know what I'm doing. They're gonna cancel the show {kill my programming language}. I'm gonna die homeless and penniless and twenty pounds overweight. Let's balance it out... I was recently reminded by a relative of this useful quote: I have lived a long life and had many troubles, most of which never happened. (Twain) Stop worrying and write code. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340905 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?
So Rome isn't burning then? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Marc Funaro subscripti...@advantex.netwrote: Or it could be seen as a negative sign that after ten years CF still hasn't been able to shake off the cf is dying stigma. True this. Scour the web - how many other languages have their devoted developers constantly asking this same question over and over? PHP? Ruby? Java? Etc.? Some HAVE actually died in the broadest sense of the word, by being about as low on the technologies chosen for new projects totem pole, but their communities just keep chugging away without a peep, like factory worker children. It's pretty funny how us CFers are always looking in the mirror like some collective Stuart Smalley or something. I haven't used CF9 yet (gasp! He's not on the bandwagon! GET HIM!!), but I know and have come to accept the limitations of CF8 and earlier, and I still make a huge, comfortable living writing useful code in this language. I'll just start to feel good again when someone on one of my favored lurk lists will hold up that damned mirror. CFer's, listen up! You're Good Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You!! ;) Tongue in cheek, of course. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340906 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?
Before I get flamed (get it?) I better add a ;) to that. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: So Rome isn't burning then? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Marc Funaro subscripti...@advantex.netwrote: Or it could be seen as a negative sign that after ten years CF still hasn't been able to shake off the cf is dying stigma. True this. Scour the web - how many other languages have their devoted developers constantly asking this same question over and over? PHP? Ruby? Java? Etc.? Some HAVE actually died in the broadest sense of the word, by being about as low on the technologies chosen for new projects totem pole, but their communities just keep chugging away without a peep, like factory worker children. It's pretty funny how us CFers are always looking in the mirror like some collective Stuart Smalley or something. I haven't used CF9 yet (gasp! He's not on the bandwagon! GET HIM!!), but I know and have come to accept the limitations of CF8 and earlier, and I still make a huge, comfortable living writing useful code in this language. I'll just start to feel good again when someone on one of my favored lurk lists will hold up that damned mirror. CFer's, listen up! You're Good Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You!! ;) Tongue in cheek, of course. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340907 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?
So Rome isn't burning then? Donno. Why? Has Be Forta Taken up the fiddle? G! On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: So Rome isn't burning then? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Marc Funaro subscripti...@advantex.net wrote: Or it could be seen as a negative sign that after ten years CF still hasn't been able to shake off the cf is dying stigma. True this. Scour the web - how many other languages have their devoted developers constantly asking this same question over and over? PHP? Ruby? Java? Etc.? Some HAVE actually died in the broadest sense of the word, by being about as low on the technologies chosen for new projects totem pole, but their communities just keep chugging away without a peep, like factory worker children. It's pretty funny how us CFers are always looking in the mirror like some collective Stuart Smalley or something. I haven't used CF9 yet (gasp! He's not on the bandwagon! GET HIM!!), but I know and have come to accept the limitations of CF8 and earlier, and I still make a huge, comfortable living writing useful code in this language. I'll just start to feel good again when someone on one of my favored lurk lists will hold up that damned mirror. CFer's, listen up! You're Good Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You!! ;) Tongue in cheek, of course. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340908 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?
I'd say CF was as easy as ever to use. However, the community continues to mature and provide an ever increasing toolset to help CFers make their code more robust, more maintainable and step up to professional demands. So, yeah, the developers out there *are* part responsible for the success of CF. Long may we thrive and long may Adobe/Railo/BlueDragon continue to work with developers to make the language rock. Dominic On 14 January 2011 20:15, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.comwrote: Maybe just the opposite is happening and Adobe is saving CF by making is harder to use.Maybe that will drive away the hacks and as a result CF sites will get better and stronger. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340909 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm