Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?

2011-01-15 Thread Marc Funaro

Or it could be seen as a negative sign that after ten years CF still
hasn't been able to shake off the cf is dying stigma.

True this.  Scour the web - how many other languages have their devoted 
developers constantly asking this same question over and over?  PHP?  Ruby? 
Java?  Etc.?

Some HAVE actually died in the broadest sense of the word, by being about as 
low on the technologies chosen for new projects totem pole, but their 
communities just keep chugging away without a peep, like factory worker 
children.

It's pretty funny how us CFers are always looking in the mirror like some 
collective Stuart Smalley or something.

I haven't used CF9 yet (gasp!  He's not on the bandwagon!  GET HIM!!), but I 
know and have come to accept the limitations of CF8 and earlier, and I still 
make a huge, comfortable living writing useful code in this language.

I'll just start to feel good again when someone on one of my favored lurk lists 
will hold up that damned mirror. CFer's, listen up!  You're Good Enough, You're 
Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You!!  ;)

Tongue in cheek, of course. 

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Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?

2011-01-15 Thread Marc Funaro

LOL Stuart Smalley, 2000-present:

I don't know what I'm doing. They're gonna cancel the show {kill my 
programming language}. I'm gonna die homeless and penniless and twenty pounds 
overweight.

Let's balance it out...  I was recently reminded by a relative of this useful 
quote:

I have lived a long life and had many troubles, most of which never happened. 
 (Twain)

Stop worrying and write code.



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Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?

2011-01-15 Thread Michael Grant

So Rome isn't burning then?

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Marc Funaro subscripti...@advantex.netwrote:


 Or it could be seen as a negative sign that after ten years CF still
 hasn't been able to shake off the cf is dying stigma.

 True this.  Scour the web - how many other languages have their devoted
 developers constantly asking this same question over and over?  PHP?  Ruby?
 Java?  Etc.?

 Some HAVE actually died in the broadest sense of the word, by being about
 as low on the technologies chosen for new projects totem pole, but their
 communities just keep chugging away without a peep, like factory worker
 children.

 It's pretty funny how us CFers are always looking in the mirror like some
 collective Stuart Smalley or something.

 I haven't used CF9 yet (gasp!  He's not on the bandwagon!  GET HIM!!), but
 I know and have come to accept the limitations of CF8 and earlier, and I
 still make a huge, comfortable living writing useful code in this language.

 I'll just start to feel good again when someone on one of my favored lurk
 lists will hold up that damned mirror. CFer's, listen up!  You're Good
 Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You!!  ;)

 Tongue in cheek, of course.

 

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Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?

2011-01-15 Thread Michael Grant

Before I get flamed (get it?) I better add a ;) to that.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:

 So Rome isn't burning then?


 On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Marc Funaro 
 subscripti...@advantex.netwrote:


 Or it could be seen as a negative sign that after ten years CF still
 hasn't been able to shake off the cf is dying stigma.

 True this.  Scour the web - how many other languages have their devoted
 developers constantly asking this same question over and over?  PHP?  Ruby?
 Java?  Etc.?

 Some HAVE actually died in the broadest sense of the word, by being
 about as low on the technologies chosen for new projects totem pole, but
 their communities just keep chugging away without a peep, like factory
 worker children.

 It's pretty funny how us CFers are always looking in the mirror like some
 collective Stuart Smalley or something.

 I haven't used CF9 yet (gasp!  He's not on the bandwagon!  GET HIM!!), but
 I know and have come to accept the limitations of CF8 and earlier, and I
 still make a huge, comfortable living writing useful code in this language.

 I'll just start to feel good again when someone on one of my favored lurk
 lists will hold up that damned mirror. CFer's, listen up!  You're Good
 Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You!!  ;)

 Tongue in cheek, of course.

 

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Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?

2011-01-15 Thread Gerald Guido

So Rome isn't burning then?

Donno.  Why? Has Be Forta Taken up the fiddle?

G!

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:


 So Rome isn't burning then?

 On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Marc Funaro subscripti...@advantex.net
 wrote:

 
  Or it could be seen as a negative sign that after ten years CF still
  hasn't been able to shake off the cf is dying stigma.
 
  True this.  Scour the web - how many other languages have their devoted
  developers constantly asking this same question over and over?  PHP?
  Ruby?
  Java?  Etc.?
 
  Some HAVE actually died in the broadest sense of the word, by being
 about
  as low on the technologies chosen for new projects totem pole, but
 their
  communities just keep chugging away without a peep, like factory worker
  children.
 
  It's pretty funny how us CFers are always looking in the mirror like some
  collective Stuart Smalley or something.
 
  I haven't used CF9 yet (gasp!  He's not on the bandwagon!  GET HIM!!),
 but
  I know and have come to accept the limitations of CF8 and earlier, and I
  still make a huge, comfortable living writing useful code in this
 language.
 
  I'll just start to feel good again when someone on one of my favored lurk
  lists will hold up that damned mirror. CFer's, listen up!  You're Good
  Enough, You're Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You!!  ;)
 
  Tongue in cheek, of course.
 
 

 

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Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?

2011-01-15 Thread Dominic Watson

I'd say CF was as easy as ever to use. However, the community continues to
mature and provide an ever increasing toolset to help CFers  make their code
more robust, more maintainable and step up to professional demands. So,
yeah, the developers out there *are* part responsible for the success of CF.
Long may we thrive and long may Adobe/Railo/BlueDragon continue to work with
developers to make the language rock.

Dominic

On 14 January 2011 20:15, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.comwrote:

 Maybe just the opposite is happening and Adobe is saving CF by making is
 harder to use.Maybe that will drive away the hacks and as a result CF
 sites will get better and stronger.


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