RE: Charge for meetings

2011-02-08 Thread Will Swain

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We've been using them for around 6/7 months and not had any issues.

 

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From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org] 
Sent: 08 February 2011 02:14
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Charge for meetings

 

 

 Unfuddle.com seems to be the most accessible for clients in terms of
 friendly terminology etc.

 And I use git with it.

 Hey wow.  Me too :)

I'm glad this topic came up as I'm in the market for a new centralized
repository for git as well as an issue tracking system, so this looks
to be just what I'm looking for.


-Justi



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META: email notification for single threads?

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Burns

I don't want to subscribe to emails for all of cf-talk because of the high 
volume but I do want it for threads I start and/or contribute to. Is there a 
way to do only that? I haven't been able to find it. Right now, I leave a 
browser tab open to the thread and I refresh it a couple of times during the 
day.


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Singleton var scoping

2011-02-08 Thread Jason Fill

I know that var scoping is paramount with CFC development, however, I do have a 
question in regards to var scoping when the CFC is not going to be a singleton 
and the impact that might have.

Please consider the following simplified example:

!--- mySingletonCFC.cfc ---
cfcomponent name=MySingletonCFC   
   cffunction name=doSomething
 cfset var MyObj = createObject(component, MyNonSingletonCFC).init() /
 cfset MyObj.doSomethingElse() /
   /cffunction
/cfcomponent

!--- MyNonSingletonCFC ---
cfcomponent name=MyNonSingletonCFC   
   cffunction name=doSomethingElse
 !--- in here there are some non var scoped parameters ---
   /cffunction
/cfcomponent

In this example doSomething() creates a new object and then calls 
doSomethingElse() in the new non-singleton object.  Inside doSomethingElse() 
there could be non var scoped variables.  While I understand this is not good 
practice nor recommended, am I also correct in assuming that you could run into 
issues b/c the variables are not private to the function call?  Or because the 
CFC always will be created with each invocation of doSomething() will it be ok.

Thanks. 

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Am I looking for a shopping cart? Or just SQL design pattern?

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Burns

I've inherited a site at a customer and the previous (several) people working 
on this code did them no favors. For example, it's an e-commerce site and the 
table that records sales keeps track of the user id and the amount paid but not 
what product was bought or the form of payment. There actually IS a record of 
what the user bought but it's stored in their user record which is overwritten 
with each purchase so any history is lost. In addition, the site has 
discount-codes (coupons) but those are stored with the user, not the 
transaction so history is lost there too. In addition, I've noticed that 
discount codes are re-usable and can be edited without saving history so if you 
change the discount amount for future sales, running a historical report for 
sales involving that discount code are now bogus.

I've been asked to fix this. I wonder if there is a standard pattern for the 
schema here since it must have been done a million times by now. I have never 
used an off-the-shelf shopping cart package either - I have always assumed that 
those are more about maintaining sessions/carts and interacting with payment 
gateways but it occurs to me that maybe they include the schema design I'm 
thinking of that allows proper accounting audit trails, etc.

Any advice?


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Re: Am I looking for a shopping cart? Or just SQL design pattern?

2011-02-08 Thread Jason Fill

Dave,

eCommerce sites can be a bear to tackle as the requirements seem to always 
grow.  I have used SiteDirector from QuillDesign (http://quilldesign.com) for 
several sites and it is a great affordable application that can be fully 
customized.  I would imagine for the time it would take to fix your application 
you could purchase SiteDirector which would handle all your issues plus give 
you more functionality.

Hope that helps.

 I've inherited a site at a customer and the previous (several) people 
 working on this code did them no favors. For example, it's an 
 e-commerce site and the table that records sales keeps track of the 
 user id and the amount paid but not what product was bought or the 
 form of payment. There actually IS a record of what the user bought 
 but it's stored in their user record which is overwritten with each 
 purchase so any history is lost. In addition, the site has 
 discount-codes (coupons) but those are stored with the user, not the 
 transaction so history is lost there too. In addition, I've noticed 
 that discount codes are re-usable and can be edited without saving 
 history so if you change the discount amount for future sales, running 
 a historical report for sales involving that discount code are now 
 bogus.
 
 I've been asked to fix this. I wonder if there is a standard pattern 
 for the schema here since it must have been done a million times by 
 now. I have never used an off-the-shelf shopping cart package either - 
 I have always assumed that those are more about maintaining 
 sessions/carts and interacting with payment gateways but it occurs to 
 me that maybe they include the schema design I'm thinking of that 
 allows proper accounting audit trails, etc.
 
 Any advice?


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(ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread John M Bliss

I know this is more of an HTTP question than it is a CF question but...

So, there are (at least) three ways of performing a redirect:

(For each of the following, start.cfm has a href=redirect.cfm)

start.cfm - [click link] - redirect.cfm (with 301 / 302 / cflocation) -
destination.cfm (where cgi.HTTP_REFERER is start.cfm)

start.cfm - [click link] - redirect.cfm (with meta http-equiv=refresh
content=0;url=destination.cfm) - destination.cfm (where cgi.HTTP_REFERER
is NOT start.cfm)

start.cfm - [click link] - redirect.cfm (with window.location =
destination.cfm) - destination.cfm (where cgi.HTTP_REFERER is NOT
start.cfm)

Question: is there a way to do a 301 / 302 / cflocation where,
on destination.cfm, cgi.HTTP_REFERER is NOT start.cfm ?

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Using a part number to query corresponding data from separate tables

2011-02-08 Thread Aaron Renfroe

Good Morning Everyone!

I'm having a mental issue on how i can get the data i need based on a part 
number that I’m retrieving from one table. In the one table i have the top 
200 sellers, in my other three tables i have all of the information that goes 
with the parts.

I have written three queries that go to each of the three tables. 

Question 1:
In all the tables the part number may fit 7 different applications, therefore 
the part number can be in there multiple times on my results. I have used the 
DISTINCT attribute to get the distinct number from the table that hosts the 
information. How can i pull all of the corresponding info (Year, Make, Model, 
etc) while I’m using the distinct clause? 

Question 2:
If i wanted to get all information from any of the three tables based on a 
single part number without duplicates, how would i write that.

I'm not sure is i should be doing joins, or sub-queries, and/or unions.

Here are my 3 queries:

cfquery name=get_Main_Group_rev datasource=XXX username=XXX 
password=XX
SELECT DISTINCT PartNumber FROM GriffinDataRevised
INNER JOIN Top200 ON GriffinDataRevised.PartNumber = Top200.Part_Number
WHERE Top200.part_number = GriffinDataRevised.PartNumber
/cfquery

cfquery name=get_Main_Group_dominator datasource=XXX 
username=XXX password=XXX
SELECT DISTINCT Dominator.part_number FROM Dominator
INNER JOIN Top200 ON Top200.part_number = Dominator.part_number
ORDER BY Dominator.Part_Number ASC
/cfquery

cfquery name=get_Main_Group_race datasource=XXX username=XXX 
password=XXX
SELECT DISTINCT PartNumber FROM GriffinRaceDataNew
INNER JOIN Top200 ON GriffinRaceDataNew.PartNumber = Top200.Part_Number
WHERE Top200.part_number = GriffinRaceDataNew.PartNumber
/cfquery


How can i simplify this process :)

Thank you!
Aaron

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Re: Am I looking for a shopping cart? Or just SQL design pattern?

2011-02-08 Thread Scott Stewart

this is all about normalization, there's a relationship between the
user, the order and what was bought in the order. You'll have a one to
many relationship between users and orders(a user can have multiple
orders but an order can't have multiple users) and a many to many
relationship between products and orders (an order can have multiple
products and products can be in multiple orders)

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Dave Burns cft...@burnsorama.com wrote:

 I've inherited a site at a customer and the previous (several) people working 
 on this code did them no favors. For example, it's an e-commerce site and the 
 table that records sales keeps track of the user id and the amount paid but 
 not what product was bought or the form of payment. There actually IS a 
 record of what the user bought but it's stored in their user record which is 
 overwritten with each purchase so any history is lost. In addition, the site 
 has discount-codes (coupons) but those are stored with the user, not the 
 transaction so history is lost there too. In addition, I've noticed that 
 discount codes are re-usable and can be edited without saving history so if 
 you change the discount amount for future sales, running a historical report 
 for sales involving that discount code are now bogus.

 I've been asked to fix this. I wonder if there is a standard pattern for the 
 schema here since it must have been done a million times by now. I have never 
 used an off-the-shelf shopping cart package either - I have always assumed 
 that those are more about maintaining sessions/carts and interacting with 
 payment gateways but it occurs to me that maybe they include the schema 
 design I'm thinking of that allows proper accounting audit trails, etc.

 Any advice?


 

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RE: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Harrison

 Question: is there a way to do a 301 / 302 / cflocation where, on 
 destination.cfm, cgi.HTTP_REFERER is NOT start.cfm ?

cfif (Find(destination.cfm., cgi.http_host)  is true and Find(start.cfm., 
cgi.http_referer) is false)
cflocation url=GOHERE addToken=no statusCode=301
/cfif


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-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:57 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: (ot) redirect and referer


I know this is more of an HTTP question than it is a CF question but...

So, there are (at least) three ways of performing a redirect:

(For each of the following, start.cfm has a href=redirect.cfm)

start.cfm - [click link] - redirect.cfm (with 301 / 302 / cflocation) - 
destination.cfm (where cgi.HTTP_REFERER is start.cfm)

start.cfm - [click link] - redirect.cfm (with meta http-equiv=refresh
content=0;url=destination.cfm) - destination.cfm (where cgi.HTTP_REFERER is 
NOT start.cfm)

start.cfm - [click link] - redirect.cfm (with window.location =
destination.cfm) - destination.cfm (where cgi.HTTP_REFERER is NOT
start.cfm)

Question: is there a way to do a 301 / 302 / cflocation where, on 
destination.cfm, cgi.HTTP_REFERER is NOT start.cfm ?

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RE: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Harrison

Whoops... left in dots. Should be:

cfif (Find(destination.cfm, cgi.http_host)  is true and Find(start.cfm, 
cgi.http_referer) is false)
cflocation url=GOHERE addToken=no statusCode=301 
/cfif

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Austin  Williams
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Hauppauge NY 11788
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Mobile Editor: What's the best one?

2011-02-08 Thread Matthew Lowrey

Hello all:

I just got my first android (tMobile myTouch 4G) and I'm excited to dive into 
doing things on my phone I would normally do on my laptop.  One of them is 
building webpages or developing home projects.

First question I'd be asking is, why the heck would you want to do developing 
on your phone?!
 1. I have three kids and I rarely get to sit down and work on my laptop
 2. Laptop is 2007 and recently the #2 RAM slot died, so I'm running at half 
speed
 3. It's a new toy! :)

With that said... I've searched the Android Market and there's a few editors 
(nothing for ColdFusion code that I know of) but I want to get something that I 
can play around with and wanted to know if anyone of you have a This is the 
best one to use... app or hear say about an app.

So far it looks like touchqode looks like the best one and it's for free. 

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Re: META: email notification for single threads?

2011-02-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz

There is no option for that but let me see about adding it.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Dave Burns cft...@burnsorama.com wrote:


 I don't want to subscribe to emails for all of cf-talk because of the high
 volume but I do want it for threads I start and/or contribute to. Is there a
 way to do only that? I haven't been able to find it. Right now, I leave a
 browser tab open to the thread and I refresh it a couple of times during the
 day.





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RE: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Harrison

Bejezzz... Must pay attention to my email. Do not multi task... do not multi 
task.

Really correct syntax now

cfif Find(destination.cfm, cgi.http_host)  is true and Find(start.cfm, 
cgi.http_referer) is false
cflocation url=GOHERE addToken=no statusCode=301 
/cfif


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-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:53 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: (ot) redirect and referer


Whoops... left in dots. Should be:

cfif (Find(destination.cfm, cgi.http_host)  is true and Find(start.cfm, 
cgi.http_referer) is false)
cflocation url=GOHERE addToken=no statusCode=301 /cfif

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Austin  Williams
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Hauppauge NY 11788
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Re: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread John M Bliss

Thanks, Robert...but it wasn't a question of *detecting/acting on*
cgi.http_referer
on destination.cfm.  Question is:

Is there a way to write redirect.cfm with 301/302/cflocation so that,
on destination.cfm, cgi.http_referer is not start.cfm?

I know this can be done with meta refresh and with js...just haven't been
able to figure out how to do it with any 301/302/cflocation-based solution.


On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com
 wrote:


 Bejezzz... Must pay attention to my email. Do not multi task... do not
 multi task.

 Really correct syntax now

 cfif Find(destination.cfm, cgi.http_host)  is true and Find(start.cfm,
 cgi.http_referer) is false
cflocation url=GOHERE addToken=no statusCode=301
 /cfif


 Robert B. Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services
 Austin  Williams
 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
 Hauppauge NY 11788
 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
 F : 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

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 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:53 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: (ot) redirect and referer


 Whoops... left in dots. Should be:

 cfif (Find(destination.cfm, cgi.http_host)  is true and
 Find(start.cfm, cgi.http_referer) is false)
cflocation url=GOHERE addToken=no statusCode=301 /cfif

 Robert B. Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services
 Austin  Williams
 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
 Hauppauge NY 11788
 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
 F : 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

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RE: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Harrison

Oh. I took destination.cfm to mean a literal file... do this if its that file 
and did not come from here.

 Is there a way to write redirect.cfm with 301/302/cflocation so that, on 
 destination.cfm, cgi.http_referer is not start.cfm?

I'm not sure I understand that question.  I think you are saying that if 
redirect.cfm get accessed by start.cfm and does a 301 redirect to another page, 
you don't want the referred to show as start.cfm.  Is that right?



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Re: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread John M Bliss

Right.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com
 wrote:


 Oh. I took destination.cfm to mean a literal file... do this if its that
 file and did not come from here.

  Is there a way to write redirect.cfm with 301/302/cflocation so that, on
 destination.cfm, cgi.http_referer is not start.cfm?

 I'm not sure I understand that question.  I think you are saying that if
 redirect.cfm get accessed by start.cfm and does a 301 redirect to another
 page, you don't want the referred to show as start.cfm.  Is that right?



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Getting information from a cfquery/cfloop to display in a table or div

2011-02-08 Thread Michelle Dupray

Hello,

I'm trying to get information from our database to display in horizontal form 
(table or div). I'm able to pull information from our database with the 
following code. Everytime I try to incorporate a table the same information 
will display in on each row; different information will not display in each 
cell. Any ideas?

cfquery name=member datasource=ASAGOV
SELECT fname, lname, Starship, Rank
FROM   Star_Trek
where rank  'Captain' AND
rank  'Science Officer'


/cfquery
 cfloop query=membercfoutput



#fname# #lname#, #starship#  



/cfoutput/cfloop 

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Re: Verity and Asian languages

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Nurse

Hi All,

I've got a verity collection that I load periodically.  Some of the data 
contains Unicode (English) characters.  When they're retrieved and displayed, I 
get ? and other odd characters.  Would using language=unicode on the 
cfindex tag take care of this? 

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CFINDEX and Encoding

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Nurse

Hi All,

I've got a verity collection that I load periodically.  Some of the data 
contains Unicode (English) characters.  When they're retrieved and displayed, I 
get ? and other odd characters.  Would using language=unicode on the 
cfindex tag take care of this? 

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RE: Getting information from a cfquery/cfloop to display in a table or div

2011-02-08 Thread Rick Faircloth

Try leaving out the cfoutput/cfoutput
in the your cfloop.

Rick

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To: cf-talk
Subject: Getting information from a cfquery/cfloop to display in a table or
div


Hello,

I'm trying to get information from our database to display in horizontal
form (table or div). I'm able to pull information from our database with the
following code. Everytime I try to incorporate a table the same information
will display in on each row; different information will not display in each
cell. Any ideas?

cfquery name=member datasource=ASAGOV
SELECT fname, lname, Starship, Rank
FROM   Star_Trek
where rank  'Captain' AND
rank  'Science Officer'


/cfquery
 cfloop query=membercfoutput



#fname# #lname#, #starship#  



/cfoutput/cfloop 



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Re: META: email notification for single threads?

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Burns

Thanks, Michael.

The ideal is what I've seen on other forums: a checkbox for each thread that 
anyone can check if they want to subscribe to that thread via email. Then, if 
you create a thread or add to it, the box gets checked for you by default.

db


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Re: Getting information from a cfquery/cfloop to display in a table or div

2011-02-08 Thread Rob Parkhill

Michelle,

Try the following:

table
trtdFirst Name/tdtdLast Name/tdtdStarship/td/tr

cfoutput query=member
trtd#fname#/tdtd#lname#/tdtd#starship#/td/tr
/cfoutput
/table

Cheers,

Rob

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 Try leaving out the cfoutput/cfoutput
 in the your cfloop.

 Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: Michelle Dupray [mailto:mdup...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:24 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Getting information from a cfquery/cfloop to display in a table or
 div


 Hello,

 I'm trying to get information from our database to display in horizontal
 form (table or div). I'm able to pull information from our database with
 the
 following code. Everytime I try to incorporate a table the same information
 will display in on each row; different information will not display in each
 cell. Any ideas?

 cfquery name=member datasource=ASAGOV
 SELECT fname, lname, Starship, Rank
FROM   Star_Trek
 where rank  'Captain' AND
 rank  'Science Officer'


 /cfquery
  cfloop query=membercfoutput



 #fname# #lname#, #starship#



 /cfoutput/cfloop



 

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Re: Am I looking for a shopping cart? Or just SQL design pattern?

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Burns

Thanks, Scott. 

I'm pretty good at data modeling so I feel like, with enough time, I can solve 
this problem well. But that's when it occurs to me that this has been solved by 
many before me who have the benefit of hindsight. Maybe I could save my client 
some money by either recommending they buy something or I could at least take 
someone else's schema and start with that instead of from scratch.

BTW, it's not just about normalization. It's also thinking ahead about the 
requirements for audit trails, historical reporting, knowing what data can be 
changed and what is never allowed to change once recorded, etc.

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Re: Singleton var scoping

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 I know that var scoping is paramount with CFC development, however, I do have 
 a question in regards to var scoping when the CFC is not going
 to be a singleton and the impact that might have.

 Please consider the following simplified example:

 !--- mySingletonCFC.cfc ---
 cfcomponent name=MySingletonCFC
   cffunction name=doSomething
     cfset var MyObj = createObject(component, MyNonSingletonCFC).init() 
 /
     cfset MyObj.doSomethingElse() /
   /cffunction
 /cfcomponent

 !--- MyNonSingletonCFC ---
 cfcomponent name=MyNonSingletonCFC
   cffunction name=doSomethingElse
     !--- in here there are some non var scoped parameters ---
   /cffunction
 /cfcomponent

 In this example doSomething() creates a new object and then calls 
 doSomethingElse() in the new non-singleton object.  Inside
 doSomethingElse() there could be non var scoped variables.  While I 
 understand this is not good practice nor recommended, am I also correct in
 assuming that you could run into issues b/c the variables are not private to 
 the function call?  Or because the CFC always will be created with
 each invocation of doSomething() will it be ok.

It will be ok, as you're creating a new separate instance of your
non-singleton CFC for each call to doSomething.

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Re: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 I know this is more of an HTTP question than it is a CF question but...

 So, there are (at least) three ways of performing a redirect:

 (For each of the following, start.cfm has a href=redirect.cfm)

 start.cfm - [click link] - redirect.cfm (with 301 / 302 / cflocation) -
 destination.cfm (where cgi.HTTP_REFERER is start.cfm)

 start.cfm - [click link] - redirect.cfm (with meta http-equiv=refresh
 content=0;url=destination.cfm) - destination.cfm (where cgi.HTTP_REFERER
 is NOT start.cfm)

 start.cfm - [click link] - redirect.cfm (with window.location =
 destination.cfm) - destination.cfm (where cgi.HTTP_REFERER is NOT
 start.cfm)

 Question: is there a way to do a 301 / 302 / cflocation where,
 on destination.cfm, cgi.HTTP_REFERER is NOT start.cfm ?

No.

But it might make sense for you to explain further what you're trying
to accomplish.

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Re: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread John M Bliss

Thanks. That's what I suspected. I can't get into detail but we'd prefer to
do a 301/302 but we can't have starting URL visible in referer on
destination page.

On Feb 8, 2011 1:26 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


 I know this is more of an HTTP question than it is a CF question but...

 So, there are (at lea...
No.

But it might make sense for you to explain further what you're trying
to accomplish.

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Re: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 Thanks. That's what I suspected. I can't get into detail but we'd prefer to
 do a 301/302 but we can't have starting URL visible in referer on
 destination page.

If that's your goal, you could redirect to an intermediate page, then
have that redirect to the final destination. The referrer seen by the
destination would presumably be the intermediate page - you'd have to
test that to make sure.

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Re: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread John M Bliss

Right but if all redirects in the chain are 301/302, original referer
remains unchanged. And meta-refresh - 302 - destination doesn't solve our
issue.

On Feb 8, 2011 2:05 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


 Thanks. That's what I suspected. I can't get into detail but we'd prefer
to
 do a 301/302 but we...
If that's your goal, you could redirect to an intermediate page, then
have that redirect to the final destination. The referrer seen by the
destination would presumably be the intermediate page - you'd have to
test that to make sure.


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Re: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 Right but if all redirects in the chain are 301/302, original referer
 remains unchanged. And meta-refresh - 302 - destination doesn't solve our
 issue.

I didn't know that. In that case, there isn't anything you can do with
redirects only.

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(ot) Find and Replace Help

2011-02-08 Thread Patrick Kerley

I'm trying to parse XML and I've hit a problem where inbetween my XML of 
abstract/abstract

There is occasionally some math values or thing like 

abstract
    the dog is  than the cat
/abstract

I've got 3500 of these documents to run through an insert into a DB.  Does 
anyone know how or in what program I could issue a Find and Replace Between the 
ABSTRACT/ABSTRACT for any instances of  and replace them with the proper 
 
code.

Thanks
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Re: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Burns

Key concept to understand though re the original q is that the HTTP_REFERER 
field is set by the browser and there's nothing you can do on the server to 
tell them how to set it. 

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Re: (ot) redirect and referer

2011-02-08 Thread John M Bliss

Right...except to use meta-refresh to make it so that most (all?) browsers
won't pass it through.  But don't do this unless you have a very good reason
to do so as 301/302 is preferred.

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 Key concept to understand though re the original q is that the HTTP_REFERER
 field is set by the browser and there's nothing you can do on the server to
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Looking for CF/Adobe Network group in Chicago

2011-02-08 Thread Joshua O'Connor-Rose

Does anybody know of any groups in Chicago (downtown) that are active
and has a focus on Coldfusion/Adobe products

I'm looking to possibly shift back into Java/CF/Mobile world from .NET world.

thanks in advance

-Joshua O'Connor-Rose
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Re: (ot) Find and Replace Help

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 I'm trying to parse XML and I've hit a problem where inbetween my XML of
 abstract/abstract

 There is occasionally some math values or thing like

 abstract
     the dog is  than the cat
 /abstract

 I've got 3500 of these documents to run through an insert into a DB.  Does
 anyone know how or in what program I could issue a Find and Replace Between 
 the
 ABSTRACT/ABSTRACT for any instances of  and replace them with 
 the proper 
 code.

First, if you have something in a document, it's not XML. By
definition, an XML document is well-formed - it can be parsed by an
XML parser. These documents can't. I'm not bringing this up simply to
be annoying - if you're getting these documents from somewhere else,
you need to get them to fix their document generation process.

Second, within the text node of any XML element, you can declare the
contents as off-limits to the parser:

abstract![CDATA[ ... contents ... ]]/abstract

Third, if you're creating these documents yourself, you can use the
XMLFormat function in CF to escape XML metacharacters before you
output them to the document.

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Re: (ot) Find and Replace Help

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 First, if you have something in a document, it's not XML.

I meant to write, if you have something LIKE THAT in a document, it's not XML.

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Re: Looking for CF/Adobe Network group in Chicago

2011-02-08 Thread John M Bliss

http://chicago.groups.adobe.com

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Joshua O'Connor-Rose 
joshua.oconnorr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does anybody know of any groups in Chicago (downtown) that are active
 and has a focus on Coldfusion/Adobe products

 I'm looking to possibly shift back into Java/CF/Mobile world from .NET
 world.

 thanks in advance

 -Joshua O'Connor-Rose
 -All is Good

 

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RE: (ot) Find and Replace Help

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Harrison

abstract
 the dog is  than the cat
/abstract

This is definitely NOT a valid XML file if you are working with this.  Where is 
this coming from. If it's an XML file the problem is that the source XML file 
has errors. 


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Re: (ot) Find and Replace Help

2011-02-08 Thread Patrick Kerley

The source file has errors.  

I'm trying to work through them.  
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- 





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Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 4:16:18 PM
Subject: RE: (ot) Find and Replace Help


abstract
the dog is  than the cat
/abstract

This is definitely NOT a valid XML file if you are working with this.  Where is 
this coming from. If it's an XML file the problem is that the source XML file 
has errors. 



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RE: Looking for CF/Adobe Network group in Chicago

2011-02-08 Thread Eric Roberts

Joshua,
The CHIFUG group has been relative dormant and there has only been a couple
of meetings over the past couple of years.  I would love to see something
start up again.  They guy that used to run it had twins a few years ago and
obviously, that and the coffee shop he runs with his wife (which was an
awesome place for meetings), took up all his time.  Unfortunately that had
the side effect of taking the steam out of the momentum of the group.

Eric

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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 15:05 
To: cf-talk
Subject: Looking for CF/Adobe Network group in Chicago


Does anybody know of any groups in Chicago (downtown) that are active and
has a focus on Coldfusion/Adobe products

I'm looking to possibly shift back into Java/CF/Mobile world from .NET
world.

thanks in advance

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RE: (ot) Find and Replace Help

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Harrison

 The source file has errors.  
 I'm trying to work through them.

Uggh! Sorry.  

You may have to do search/replace and rewrite the source file to a temp file to 
get it straight.  That's always fun.  I feel your pain.  


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Re: Mobile Editor: What's the best one?

2011-02-08 Thread Mike Chabot

The best editor on your phone is the one you don't use. The problems with
trying to do serious coding on a phone should become apparent after a few
minutes of trying it.
Having a remote desktop/VNC program on a phone would help if you are away
from your computer and need to change something on a Web site.

-Mike Chabot

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Matthew Lowrey rid...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello all:

 I just got my first android (tMobile myTouch 4G) and I'm excited to dive
 into doing things on my phone I would normally do on my laptop.  One of them
 is building webpages or developing home projects.

 First question I'd be asking is, why the heck would you want to do
 developing on your phone?!
  1. I have three kids and I rarely get to sit down and work on my laptop
  2. Laptop is 2007 and recently the #2 RAM slot died, so I'm running at
 half speed
  3. It's a new toy! :)

 With that said... I've searched the Android Market and there's a few
 editors (nothing for ColdFusion code that I know of) but I want to get
 something that I can play around with and wanted to know if anyone of you
 have a This is the best one to use... app or hear say about an app.

 So far it looks like touchqode looks like the best one and it's for free.

 

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Linking cfsearch results

2011-02-08 Thread N kips

I have indexed and used cfsearch according to the docs (cf9). I am searching a 
query.

It works as the documentation defined, my only problem is that the only text 
that be be rendered in the search results is that which is defined in the title 
field in cfidex. This means that I cannout output any column from the database 
that was indexed other, other than the column which is in the title field in 
index.
Appreciate it. 

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RE: Looking for CF/Adobe Network group in Chicago

2011-02-08 Thread Terry Troxel

Hey, is this the INTERNET world? Are we having a hard time finding the funds
to have a big Coldfusion Extravaganza to host, participate in, attend, etc.?

Why cannot some enterprising folks come up with some sort of Webinar that we
can all attend and not have to leave our desk?

Would you be willing to join something that was a forward thinking, idea
creating, learning experience, knowledge expandinghey I am not a
writer, but I don't have to bucks to travel somewhere to experience
Something that just might be way over my head, but I certainly would want to
partake in something well thought out that I could attend online that would
allow me to expand, meet, and partake in anything CF related, that just
might put some forward momentum in this wild and crazy language we all love
so much.
Some of you folks in this group certainly have the knowledge, resources,
desire to pull something like this off.

How 'bout you?

Terry


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Re: Looking for CF/Adobe Network group in Chicago

2011-02-08 Thread Casey Dougall

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Terry Troxel terry.tro...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hey, is this the INTERNET world? Are we having a hard time finding the
 funds
 to have a big Coldfusion Extravaganza to host, participate in, attend,
 etc.?



You mean like?
http://www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup/


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Re: Looking for CF/Adobe Network group in Chicago

2011-02-08 Thread Kelly

You beat me to it! LOL :)

On 2/8/2011 6:10 PM, Casey Dougall wrote:

 You mean like?
 http://www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup/


 

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RE: Looking for CF/Adobe Network group in Chicago

2011-02-08 Thread Terry Troxel

Thank you Casey, that is EXACTLY what I meant. I am off to read up on what I
gotta do to get into that and learn.

Thank you again.
Terry

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To: cf-talk
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On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Terry Troxel terry.tro...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hey, is this the INTERNET world? Are we having a hard time finding the
 funds
 to have a big Coldfusion Extravaganza to host, participate in, attend,
 etc.?



You mean like?
http://www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup/




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Re: Linking cfsearch results

2011-02-08 Thread N kips

Below is the code that does the index, and the cfsearch code that reads

The index:

cfquery name=Qryname datasource=dsnnane
SELECT id, eid, title
FROM tbl1
/cfquery

cfindex  
query=Qryname 
collection=events 
action=Update 
type=Custom 
title=title 
key=id 
body=eid,title

Search Results

cfsearch   
collection=events 
name=Qryname 
criteria=#Form.Criteria# 

!--- Output the record set. --- 
cfoutput 
Your search returned #Qryname.RecordCount# result(s). 
/cfoutput 

cfoutput query=Qryname 
a href=page.cfm?eid=#eid##title#/a

/cfoutput

I get an error saying that eid is not defined. 

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Re: refreshing application variables

2011-02-08 Thread Richard Steele

Got it! Thanks for all of the help! 

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Re: Linking cfsearch results

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 Below is the code that does the index, and the cfsearch code that reads

 The index:

 cfquery name=Qryname datasource=dsnnane
 SELECT id, eid, title
 FROM tbl1
 /cfquery

 cfindex
    query=Qryname
    collection=events
    action=Update
    type=Custom
    title=title
    key=id
    body=eid,title

 Search Results

    cfsearch
    collection=events
    name=Qryname
    criteria=#Form.Criteria#

    !--- Output the record set. ---
    cfoutput
    Your search returned #Qryname.RecordCount# result(s).
    /cfoutput

    cfoutput query=Qryname
    a href=page.cfm?eid=#eid##title#/a

    /cfoutput

 I get an error saying that eid is not defined.

Verity doesn't store your database columns directly. You have both eid
and title in the body, and that gets stored as one thing. If you want
to access a specific database column, use one of the CUSTOM attributes
(CUSTOM1, CUSTOM2) and store the eid column in that in your CFINDEX
tag, then reference CUSTOM1 (or CUSTOM2) in your output.

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Multiple applications with a single codebase issues

2011-02-08 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus

I'm having a bit of an issue here.

Over time, I have developed a CF web-based content management system (hey,
who hasn't?).  The software is currently running a handful of sites, all on
different web hosts.  It works fine in this mode.

Recently, I realized that I could get a VPS for less money than the several
web hosting accounts I'm using; this would have the added benefit of
allowing me to update the core software in one location rather than in
several.

I have it set up so that IIS sees the root directory of the CMS software as
each web sites' root, and then I set up a virtual directory to the
site-specific content for each domain.  For instance,
c:\inetpub\wwwroot\app\core is set as the root directory; in it, I have an
application.cfc file that sets up variables, security, etc.  For
site-specific stuff in the application.cfc, I am including a file that sets
the app name, etc. before the onApplicationStart() runs.

I then have the site-specific stuff (templates, config files, etc.) in
separate directory paths, each set up mapped to /site as virtual directories
for their respective web sites.

The problem I am having is that application.applicationname is being set to
whatever site loads first; i.e., I have SiteA and SiteB set up in IIS,
restart CF, and if I load SiteB first, then SiteA has SiteB's
application.applicationname value.

This is a problem.

Has anyone here tried to do this and succeeded?  Or do I need to rethink how
I have this site architected?

Thanks,

Pete


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Re: Multiple applications with a single codebase issues

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 I have it set up so that IIS sees the root directory of the CMS software as
 each web sites' root, and then I set up a virtual directory to the
 site-specific content for each domain.

Perhaps you could reverse this - set up the root directory of each
virtual server to be site-specific, then create a virtual directory
within each that uses the CMS software core directory.

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Re: Linking cfsearch results

2011-02-08 Thread Michael Grant

As a purely academic question I'd be interested in knowing your reasons to
use verity (or whatever cf uses now) instead of the database directly.


On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:17 PM, N kips nich...@gmail.com wrote:


 Below is the code that does the index, and the cfsearch code that reads

 The index:

 cfquery name=Qryname datasource=dsnnane
 SELECT id, eid, title
 FROM tbl1
 /cfquery

 cfindex
query=Qryname
collection=events
action=Update
type=Custom
title=title
key=id
body=eid,title

 Search Results

cfsearch
collection=events
name=Qryname
criteria=#Form.Criteria#

!--- Output the record set. ---
cfoutput
Your search returned #Qryname.RecordCount# result(s).
/cfoutput

cfoutput query=Qryname
a href=page.cfm?eid=#eid##title#/a

/cfoutput

 I get an error saying that eid is not defined.

 

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Re: Linking cfsearch results

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 As a purely academic question I'd be interested in knowing your reasons to
 use verity (or whatever cf uses now) instead of the database directly.

CF allows you to use either Verity or Solr. In general, people use
these instead of database queries to improve performance when
searching for substrings of text. But in the original poster's case,
he might be better served by your suggestion instead of mine.

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Re: Multiple applications with a single codebase issues

2011-02-08 Thread William Seiter

I had a similar issue that came up a couple of years ago for me.  As it turned 
out I had the name of the application the same across all of the sites, so the 
application variables weren't unique to each site.


--
William E. Seiter


On Feb 8, 2011, Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: 


I'm having a bit of an issue here.

Over time, I have developed a CF web-based content management system (hey,
who hasn't?).  The software is currently running a handful of sites, all on
different web hosts.  It works fine in this mode.

Recently, I realized that I could get a VPS for less money than the several
web hosting accounts I'm using; this would have the added benefit of
allowing me to update the core software in one location rather than in
several.

I have it set up so that IIS sees the root directory of the CMS software as
each web sites' root, and then I set up a virtual directory to the
site-specific content for each domain.  For instance,
c:\inetpub\wwwroot\app\core is set as the root directory; in it, I have an
application.cfc file that sets up variables, security, etc.  For
site-specific stuff in the application.cfc, I am including a file that sets
the app name, etc. before the onApplicationStart() runs.

I then have the site-specific stuff (templates, config files, etc.) in
separate directory paths, each set up mapped to /site as virtual directories
for their respective web sites.

The problem I am having is that application.applicationname is being set to
whatever site loads first; i.e., I have SiteA and SiteB set up in IIS,
restart CF, and if I load SiteB first, then SiteA has SiteB's
application.applicationname value.

This is a problem.

Has anyone here tried to do this and succeeded?  Or do I need to rethink how
I have this site architected?

Thanks,

Pete




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Re: Linking cfsearch results

2011-02-08 Thread Michael Grant

I've never used Solr before. About ten years ago I worked on a Monster.com
competitor that never really got there. One of the things we did was make
use of cf's verity collections for resume and job searching. It worked
really well but we found it somewhat cumbersome updating the collections. It
also proved to be less than portable when we moved servers. I do wonder now
though, with the resources available to db servers now, if a well indexed db
would really perform significantly slower. Ten years ago it was almost a
given that a collection was faster, but I wonder now if that still holds
true.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  As a purely academic question I'd be interested in knowing your reasons
 to
  use verity (or whatever cf uses now) instead of the database directly.

 CF allows you to use either Verity or Solr. In general, people use
 these instead of database queries to improve performance when
 searching for substrings of text. But in the original poster's case,
 he might be better served by your suggestion instead of mine.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
 instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

 

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Re: Multiple applications with a single codebase issues

2011-02-08 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus

I'd have to rewrite the entire application to support thiswhich I
really, really don't want to do.

I think I just need to gut my application.cfc file and start by rewriting
that and any of the site-specific instantiation code.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  I have it set up so that IIS sees the root directory of the CMS software
 as
  each web sites' root, and then I set up a virtual directory to the
  site-specific content for each domain.

 Perhaps you could reverse this - set up the root directory of each
 virtual server to be site-specific, then create a virtual directory
 within each that uses the CMS software core directory.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
 instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

 

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coldfusion errors

2011-02-08 Thread Richard Steele

Is there anyway to catch coldfusion programming errors? 

cfoutput#999sdflkjsdf;lk#/cfoutput is caught by my error handler.

But cfoutput#alsdk;fjlkj#/cfoutpu 
is not.

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Re: coldfusion errors

2011-02-08 Thread Charlie Griefer

There's a whole section on it in the livedocs :)

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbec22c24-7fc4.html

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Richard  Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote:

 Is there anyway to catch coldfusion programming errors?

 cfoutput#999sdflkjsdf;lk#/cfoutput is caught by my error handler.

 But cfoutput#alsdk;fjlkj#/cfoutpu
 is not.

 Thanks in advance.

 

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Re: coldfusion errors

2011-02-08 Thread Brian Cain

Error handling is for run time errors. Your second example is a compile error. 
You cannot use error handling to fix this. You could try a site wide error 
handler, but that probably won't work either. 

Brian Cain

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 8, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Richard  Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote:

 
 Is there anyway to catch coldfusion programming errors? 
 
 cfoutput#999sdflkjsdf;lk#/cfoutput is caught by my error handler.
 
 But cfoutput#alsdk;fjlkj#/cfoutpu 
 is not.
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 
 

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RE: Multiple applications with a single codebase issues

2011-02-08 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Pete,

Make sure the APPLICATION NAME  (this.name declared at the top along with
the session stuff and timeouts etc.) is different for each domain. This can
be done by using the URL itself as the application name. If the names are
different then each site will be it's own application with it's own scope
(and hence it's own application.applicationname

-Mark


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-Original Message-
From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:16 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Multiple applications with a single codebase issues


I'm having a bit of an issue here.

Over time, I have developed a CF web-based content management system (hey,
who hasn't?).  The software is currently running a handful of sites, all on
different web hosts.  It works fine in this mode.

Recently, I realized that I could get a VPS for less money than the several
web hosting accounts I'm using; this would have the added benefit of
allowing me to update the core software in one location rather than in
several.

I have it set up so that IIS sees the root directory of the CMS software as
each web sites' root, and then I set up a virtual directory to the
site-specific content for each domain.  For instance,
c:\inetpub\wwwroot\app\core is set as the root directory; in it, I have an
application.cfc file that sets up variables, security, etc.  For
site-specific stuff in the application.cfc, I am including a file that sets
the app name, etc. before the onApplicationStart() runs.

I then have the site-specific stuff (templates, config files, etc.) in
separate directory paths, each set up mapped to /site as virtual directories
for their respective web sites.

The problem I am having is that application.applicationname is being set to
whatever site loads first; i.e., I have SiteA and SiteB set up in IIS,
restart CF, and if I load SiteB first, then SiteA has SiteB's
application.applicationname value.

This is a problem.

Has anyone here tried to do this and succeeded?  Or do I need to rethink how
I have this site architected?

Thanks,

Pete




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RE: Multiple applications with a single codebase issues

2011-02-08 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Pete... see my other note... you can fix this by insure the name of the app
is different for each URL... not tough at all :)

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-Original Message-
From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:34 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Multiple applications with a single codebase issues


I'd have to rewrite the entire application to support thiswhich I
really, really don't want to do.

I think I just need to gut my application.cfc file and start by rewriting
that and any of the site-specific instantiation code.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  I have it set up so that IIS sees the root directory of the CMS software
 as
  each web sites' root, and then I set up a virtual directory to the
  site-specific content for each domain.

 Perhaps you could reverse this - set up the root directory of each
 virtual server to be site-specific, then create a virtual directory
 within each that uses the CMS software core directory.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
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Re: Looking for CF/Adobe Network group in Chicago

2011-02-08 Thread Joshua O'Connor-Rose

While CFMeetup is great and there are awesome presentations going on
it's not exactly a networking opportunity for folks in the area.

I participate in the web events and they are great, but networking ops
aren't quite the same.

Thanks for the info.

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Re: Multiple applications with a single codebase issues

2011-02-08 Thread Casey Dougall

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  I have it set up so that IIS sees the root directory of the CMS software
 as
  each web sites' root, and then I set up a virtual directory to the
  site-specific content for each domain.

 Perhaps you could reverse this - set up the root directory of each
 virtual server to be site-specific, then create a virtual directory
 within each that uses the CMS software core directory.


Or just setup domain aliases and host everything under one that root folder,
switch content depending on which domain you enter with. Great when your
host charges by domain or allows 100 aliases per domain ;-)


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Re: Looking for CF/Adobe Network group in Chicago

2011-02-08 Thread Casey Dougall

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Joshua O'Connor-Rose 
joshua.oconnorr...@gmail.com wrote:


 While CFMeetup is great and there are awesome presentations going on
 it's not exactly a networking opportunity for folks in the area.

 I participate in the web events and they are great, but networking ops
 aren't quite the same.

 Thanks for the info.

 -Joshua O'Connor-Rose
 -All is Good



The most intriging events like that around here are more the local chamber
of commerce mixers. Also the Young Professional Networks many cities have. I
know you may want something more specific to CFML, but if your looking to
meet people and network, here ya go ;-)


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Re: Multiple applications with a single codebase issues

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Bryant

You can accomplish that by using the domain name (CGI.SERVER_NAME) to figure 
the ApplicationName, for example (perhaps not directly though).

Also check out the Many Sites, Single Codebase blog series by Steven Cutter 
Blades:
http://blog.cutterscrossing.com/index.cfm/2011/1/13/Many-Sites-One-Codebase

It has great stuff so far!

Steve

Pete... see my other note... you can fix this by insure the name of the app
is different for each URL... not tough at all :) 

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Re: refreshing application variables

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Bryant

Normally Dave Watts really knows his stuff, but I have to disagree with one of 
his suggestions. I definitely would NOT refresh an application by renaming it.

While this will work, I would think that would leave the old Application scope 
running on the server. This isn't something that the GC would know to come by 
and pick up as there are still variables referencing the data - there just 
aren't any pages using the variables.

The upshot of that is that all of the data stored in Application scope under 
the old Application name continues to exist after you have renamed the 
application - you have just created an entirely new copy of all of those 
application variables.

Do this a few times and you eventually have a lot of RAM tied up keeping track 
of variables that you aren't using at all.

Steve
  How does one refresh application.cfc application variables without 
 restarting coldfusion services? Thanks in advance.
 
 1. Rename your application. 

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Re: refreshing application variables

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 Normally Dave Watts really knows his stuff, but I have to disagree with one 
 of his suggestions. I definitely would NOT refresh an application by
 renaming it.

 While this will work, I would think that would leave the old Application 
 scope running on the server. This isn't something that the GC would know
 to come by and pick up as there are still variables referencing the data - 
 there just aren't any pages using the variables.

 The upshot of that is that all of the data stored in Application scope under 
 the old Application name continues to exist after you have renamed
 the application - you have just created an entirely new copy of all of those 
 application variables.

 Do this a few times and you eventually have a lot of RAM tied up keeping 
 track of variables that you aren't using at all.

Well, I was really just listing that for completeness. Those are the
two ways I know to accomplish the requested task. I prefer the second
approach usually, unless I'm really in a hurry I guess.

But the first option isn't really harmful to the server, especially in
the typical case when you'd do it - in development. The orphaned
application will go out of scope normally after the specified period
of inactivity.

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Re: Linking cfsearch results

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 I do wonder now though, with the resources available to db servers now, if
 a well indexed db would really perform significantly slower. Ten years ago
 it was almost a given that a collection was faster, but I wonder now if that
 still holds true.

Indexes don't really help with substring searches unless you're
looking at the beginning of the string, though. So if you have that
kind of content in a field, a full-text search solution will work much
better than an SQL query.

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Re: coldfusion errors

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 Error handling is for run time errors. Your second example is a compile 
 error. You cannot use error handling to fix this. You could try a site wide
 error handler, but that probably won't work either.

Actually, the site-wide error handler will trap compile errors as well
as runtime exceptions. The onError event handler and CFTRY/CFCATCH
will not.

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Re: coldfusion errors

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Watts

 Is there anyway to catch coldfusion programming errors?

 cfoutput#999sdflkjsdf;lk#/cfoutput is caught by my error handler.

 But cfoutput#alsdk;fjlkj#/cfoutpu
 is not.

As Brian pointed out, the first one is a runtime exception, and the
second is a compiler error.

Runtime exceptions can be caught using the onError event handler in
Application.cfc or using CFTRY/CFCATCH.

Compiler errors can be caught using the site-wide error handler or the
CFERROR tag using TYPE=REQUEST.

That said, you should not need to catch compiler errors. Those should
never make it past the first stage of development, much less into
production. A compiler error will prevent the page from ever running
successfully - if you have one, it means you've never tried to run the
page before!

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Re: coldfusion errors

2011-02-08 Thread rex

The site-wide error handler in CFAdmin should catch all errors, even 
compile-time errors (a syntax error, in this case).  The problem is if 
your site-wide error handler has an error in there, then you're out of 
luck.  It's a good idea to have your site-wide handler to be just a 
static file, or a very basic file that should avoid erroring out.  
Common errors that happen on the site-wide error handler is when 
referencing error variables, because they don't exist for all error 
types (like error.message)

Ray Camden has a very good article and very long discussion on Error 
Handling at 
http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2007/12/5/The-Complete-Guide-to-Adding-Error-Handling-to-Your-ColdFusion-Application

That CF livedoc link that Charlie Griefer sent should be required 
reading for everyone, and has a lot of information on handling errors.


On 2/8/2011 6:58 PM, Brian Cain wrote:
 Error handling is for run time errors. Your second example is a compile 
 error. You cannot use error handling to fix this. You could try a site wide 
 error handler, but that probably won't work either.

 Brian Cain

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 8, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Richard  Steeler...@photoeye.com  wrote:

 Is there anyway to catch coldfusion programming errors?

 cfoutput#999sdflkjsdf;lk#/cfoutput  is caught by my error handler.

 Butcfoutput#alsdk;fjlkj#/cfoutpu
 is not.

 Thanks in advance.


 

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Re: Looking for CF jobs in NYC

2011-02-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz

There is a NYCFUG meeting tonight. You might want to attend in case there's
anyone looking for people. I'm going to be there as I'm looking as well. :)

http://nycfug.com/

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:31 PM, ColdFusion Developer 
cfdeveloper...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi Everyone,
 I worked as a ColdFusion web developer for more than 6 years in NYC.
 If you have any CF job position, please send me an email :
 coldfusiondeveloper...@gmail.com.

 Thank you very much in advance.
 ColdFusion Developer.




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