RE: cfinclude on a flash form not working with Chrome
I've had problems with it too but found no solutions I'm afraid, Chrome uses its own flash plugin though you can disable it and use the adobe one. That's not a great solution for other chrome users though. Given that you're reading a text file you might try using cffile to put the contents into a variable and then insert the variable into your flash form. I'm not 100% sure it will work but it's worth a try. -Original Message- From: Dave Hatz [mailto:daveh...@hatzventures.org] Sent: 22 June 2011 01:15 To: cf-talk Subject: cfinclude on a flash form not working with Chrome Having difficulties trying to get this to work with Chrome. This is inside a Flash Form on CF8. Works great on IE, FF and Safari, but won't come up on Chrome. Seems there are a lot of Flash Form issues with Chrome when I Googled the problem, but nothing specific on the CFINCLUDE. Can anyone help me out here on how to solve this problem? cfformitem type=text width=720cfinclude template=../uploads/agreement_section1.txt/cfformitem ~~~ ~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:345514 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345516 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: DoD CAC authentication
I'm getting an empty string on the cgi.cert_subject. This was working but I guess a change occurred on the server and now it is not. I've been trying to troubleshoot within IIS but no luck. The cgi.auth_user value is filled in, but I need the cgi.cert_subject. Can you offer any advice. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345517 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: DoD CAC authentication
I'm getting an empty string on the cgi.cert_subject. This was working but I guess a change occurred on the server and now it is not. I've been trying to troubleshoot within IIS but no luck. The cgi.auth_user value is filled in, but I need the cgi.cert_subject. Can you offer any advice. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345518 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer
Taking developers from other backgrounds has been one of our strategies: http://riarockstars.com/2011/03/10/a-managers-take-on-the-state-of-cf-the-scarcity-talent/ The bare minimum effort to get something loosely working is way easier in CF vs. Java. Unfortunately the majority of CF developers leave their skills at that - thus finding true CF experts is extremely difficult. Advanced Java/.NET folk pick CF up in two seconds, and they bring their formal software development OO theory design with them. So we don't even look specifically for CFers anymore, just strong developers in general. Though the flip side to that is Sr. developers of another language probably want to stick with their language of choice. So finding people who are in-between intermediate and sr. is the sweet spot. :) On 6/21/11 2:46 AM, Scott Brady wrote: FWIW, I don't think it's that easy to become a good CF developer, either. Yes, it's very easy to learn the language and it's easy to become competent at it (i.e., being able to build something that works). But to actually be good (best practices, advanced topics, etc.) isn't necessarily simple. In fact, because it's so easy to get up and running, in some ways, that might make it harder to become really good, because you don't need to in order to get things done. Java is definitely much more complex -- especially for people just getting started -- and more powerful. But, I believe that if you're someone who is actually good at CF (i.e., you're actually a developer rather than a coder), you can learn Java. Scott On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Mike Chabotmcha...@gmail.com wrote: I was saying the original statement is false since I would never trivialize the effort needed to become proficient in Java. Becoming a good Java programmer is not easy, as the original statement was implying. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345519 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: DoD CAC authentication
I'm getting an empty string on the cgi.cert_subject. This was working but I guess a change occurred on the server and now it is not. I've been trying to troubleshoot within IIS but no luck. The cgi.auth_user value is filled in, but I need the cgi.cert_subject. Can you offer any advice. Well, generally CF doesn't really have a lot to do with CGI variables provided by the web server. But to verify it's not a CF problem, I recommend you create an ASP.NET page and see if that can read CERT_SUBJECT. If that reads it and CF can't, you may have some sort of connector problem (and will probably need to involve Adobe support). If that doesn't read it, you need to talk to whoever manages the IIS server and see what changed. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or ons ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345520 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF vs. Java Web Developer
I have a small take on this... When we mad telecommuting available and stopped worrying about relocation things got a lot easier for us. We have managed to find very qualified and ambitious CF programmers in various places to add to our staff. I'm writing a post on that topic that I hope to publish today in fact. My take is that when developers reach a certain level of expertise they have a lot of options open to them - most of which allow them to be independent. Some of them still move up the chain in the corporate world, but many are findings ways to make a good living and still do what they want. The best developers often need to do something interesting and they want to be exposed to the breadth of possibilities (different frameworks, approaches, the latest and greatest etc). We play to these strengths whenever we can. We provide a model that is focused on the work performed not hours at a desk. We make their families important to us. We provide them with a steady flow of positive reinforcement. Out of a staff of 18 nearly half are now remotely working in various parts of the country. The hurdles to overcome are: 1) How do you develop community and facilitate knowledge sharing with a remote staff. 2) How do you manage meetings and stakeholder interaction. 3) What technology is the most helpful with a remote staff. 4) How do you overcome the hesitancy of potential customers who are uncomfortable with a remote staff. Although we have learned a great deal, it is still a learning process for us and I am constantly trying new things to tweak our culture. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Tariq Ahmed [mailto:ta...@dopejam.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:48 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer Taking developers from other backgrounds has been one of our strategies: http://riarockstars.com/2011/03/10/a-managers-take-on-the-state-of-cf-the-sc arcity-talent/ The bare minimum effort to get something loosely working is way easier in CF vs. Java. Unfortunately the majority of CF developers leave their skills at that - thus finding true CF experts is extremely difficult. Advanced Java/.NET folk pick CF up in two seconds, and they bring their formal software development OO theory design with them. So we don't even look specifically for CFers anymore, just strong developers in general. Though the flip side to that is Sr. developers of another language probably want to stick with their language of choice. So finding people who are in-between intermediate and sr. is the sweet spot. :) On 6/21/11 2:46 AM, Scott Brady wrote: FWIW, I don't think it's that easy to become a good CF developer, either. Yes, it's very easy to learn the language and it's easy to become competent at it (i.e., being able to build something that works). But to actually be good (best practices, advanced topics, etc.) isn't necessarily simple. In fact, because it's so easy to get up and running, in some ways, that might make it harder to become really good, because you don't need to in order to get things done. Java is definitely much more complex -- especially for people just getting started -- and more powerful. But, I believe that if you're someone who is actually good at CF (i.e., you're actually a developer rather than a coder), you can learn Java. Scott On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Mike Chabotmcha...@gmail.com wrote: I was saying the original statement is false since I would never trivialize the effort needed to become proficient in Java. Becoming a good Java programmer is not easy, as the original statement was implying. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345521 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
application.cfm
Hi, I've noticed that application.cfm is indeed run before the template called in the url, but the template itself is compiled BEFORE application.cfm is called. I need to have the ability in application.cfm to run some code and NOT compile the template. Is it possible ? CF 9 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345522 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
The CFML must be compiled in order for Java to execute it You can however stop the class file being generated so that it is compiled to memory only. In the CFADMIN under caching settings - *Save class files* Russ On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:33 PM, wrote: Hi, I've noticed that application.cfm is indeed run before the template called in the url, but the template itself is compiled BEFORE application.cfm is called. I need to have the ability in application.cfm to run some code and NOT compile the template. Is it possible ? CF 9 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345523 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
First, I will say that this is a strange request, and chances are, you're doing something wrong. Compile errors mean that there was more than an error, it's that the template has serious problems that the CFML compiler couldn't parse. The fact that you still want one page to execute and another to not compile is weird, strange, odd. I can't think of a logical case for this, and would love to hear it if you have one. That said, you should be able to do this with an Application.cfc file instead of Application.cfm. Make an onRequest method, which will compile and run that function, then from there you cfinclude the requested template, which should be compiled only when execution reaches that include. I always use Ray's Application.cfc reference, for reference: http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/downloads/application.cfc.txt nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [hi.im/nathanstrutz] [about.me/nathanstrutz] On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, wrote: Hi, I've noticed that application.cfm is indeed run before the template called in the url, but the template itself is compiled BEFORE application.cfm is called. I need to have the ability in application.cfm to run some code and NOT compile the template. Is it possible ? CF 9 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345524 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
The CFML must be compiled in order for Java to execute it Sure, but actually I don't want to execute the file, nor compile it. Yhe file is actually a pdf file under .cfm extension. This is to force execution of an application.cfm first in which I check if the user is authorized to open the file. If yes, the application.cfm returns the document with the correct name and headers, if not, it returns an error message. This way, documents cannot be opened directely. I've been using this trick for years, until this morning a user loaded some document containing by chance characters cf... in its binary part. This causes a compilation error, this is how I figured out that the document was compiled prior application.cfm was called. I'm affraid I'll have to completely redesign my document retreiving system. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345525 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: application.cfm
Do you mind me asking what need would require this? I am struggling to even think of one. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO- 8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859- 1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 12:33 AM To: cf-talk Subject: application.cfm Hi, I've noticed that application.cfm is indeed run before the template called in the url, but the template itself is compiled BEFORE application.cfm is called. I need to have the ability in application.cfm to run some code and NOT compile the template. Is it possible ? CF 9 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345526 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
I can't think of a logical case for this, and would love to hear it if you have one. Please see my othe reply. When an administrator uploads some document ie: myDoc.pdf, it is stored as myDoc.pdf.cfm When a user tries to open directly myDoc.pdf.cfm in the url, the document is protected by some code in application.cfm I never want to have the document compiled. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345527 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
A better way to achieve what you want is to password protect certain folders on your site so that the files cannot be access until a user has logged in. Using CF to do this only works to secure cfm files, so if you want to secure PDF's and the likes then simply use .htaccess files instead. This is native to Apache and can be done on IIS using Helicon APE. Once the user is authenticated via the .htaccess you can capture the username to CF for further granular control. Using only CF and not .htaccess the usual method to secure files is to store them outside the webroot and use CFCONTENT to deliver them to authenticated users. This however does have issues as it can easily result it hung native java requests if the file fails to download for any reason or the user closes his browser, which means CF needs restarting in order to free up that hung request. Once you reach your max number of concurrent requests then CF will stop processing. HTH Russ On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Do you mind me asking what need would require this? I am struggling to even think of one. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO- 8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859- 1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 12:33 AM To: cf-talk Subject: application.cfm Hi, I've noticed that application.cfm is indeed run before the template called in the url, but the template itself is compiled BEFORE application.cfm is called. I need to have the ability in application.cfm to run some code and NOT compile the template. Is it possible ? CF 9 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345528 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: application.cfm
Actually I disagree with what you are saying here, first I would not be putting the authentication in the Application.cfm and instead look at securing it some other way. But that is not your issue. The issue is that you are trying to run a template that will throw an error, nothing that I can think of from the top of my head will ever get around that. Your best option would be to use the template in question with url parameters with the name of the file. Then in that template check the authentication and then pass the name of the PDF and use cfcontent to actually load a PDF back to the browser. Your method is just asking for more headaches like this. But I am at a loss to explain how a PDF is going to throw a CF Exception error, when using cfcontent to deliver the file it should not be trying to compile that content. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO- 8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859- 1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 1:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: application.cfm The CFML must be compiled in order for Java to execute it Sure, but actually I don't want to execute the file, nor compile it. Yhe file is actually a pdf file under .cfm extension. This is to force execution of an application.cfm first in which I check if the user is authorized to open the file. If yes, the application.cfm returns the document with the correct name and headers, if not, it returns an error message. This way, documents cannot be opened directely. I've been using this trick for years, until this morning a user loaded some document containing by chance characters cf... in its binary part. This causes a compilation error, this is how I figured out that the document was compiled prior application.cfm was called. I'm affraid I'll have to completely redesign my document retreiving system. ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:345525 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345529 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
SOT: anyone notice that js implemetation of CFDUMP not working in FF4?
Use this often for ajax debugging in CF, abruptly stopped working (for me) with FF4, http://www.netgrow.com.au/files/javascript_dump.cfm TIA, -m ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345530 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
But I am at a loss to explain how a PDF is going to throw a CF Exception error, when using cfcontent to deliver the file it should not be trying to compile that content. The error is not thrown using cfcontent, but simply when CF compiles the file when the HTTP request is received, before even executing application.cfm In my mind, application.cfm was called first, then the template compiled and run. Apparently, both application.cfm and the template are compiled first, then executed. This means that if application.cfm does not let the template to be executed, it is compiled for nothing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345531 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
A better way to achieve what you want is to password protect certain folders on your site I never use authentication on the server. Only through CF, since the administrators of my CMS can add/edit their own users, sometime 1000s of members. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345532 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: application.cfm
This is because you are actually saving a pdf file as a .cfm. Maybe you should save it under a different extension, then have a page that serves it up using cfcontent. -Original Message- From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans [mailto:schneegans@interneti=71?=.=?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: application.cfm But I am at a loss to explain how a PDF is going to throw a CF Exception error, when using cfcontent to deliver the file it should not be trying to compile that content. The error is not thrown using cfcontent, but simply when CF compiles the file when the HTTP request is received, before even executing application.cfm In my mind, application.cfm was called first, then the template compiled and run. Apparently, both application.cfm and the template are compiled first, then executed. This means that if application.cfm does not let the template to be executed, it is compiled for nothing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345533 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
store your pdf files outside of web root so they are not directly accessible. serve them via an intermediary .cfm page, passing it the name of the pdf file, which checks user's access rights to requested pdf and serves the file or shows an error. Azadi On 22/06/2011 22:33 , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: Hi, I've noticed that application.cfm is indeed run before the template called in the url, but the template itself is compiled BEFORE application.cfm is called. I need to have the ability in application.cfm to run some code and NOT compile the template. Is it possible ? CF 9 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345534 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
The admin can still edit users, even 1000's On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:43 PM, wrote: A better way to achieve what you want is to password protect certain folders on your site I never use authentication on the server. Only through CF, since the administrators of my CMS can add/edit their own users, sometime 1000s of members. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345535 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
Hi Claude, I agree to both Steven and Azadi's solution. Sorry Claude, but yes, you will have to rewrite your system. The trick you are using is a security risk. Someone can rename a CFM file to a PDF file and upload it. Now that CFM code can be executed on the server. It shouldn't be that hard to do, since you are already serving up the PDF via cfcontent anyway. Just change where you store your files. - Rex On 6/22/2011 8:47 AM, Azadi Saryev wrote: store your pdf files outside of web root so they are not directly accessible. serve them via an intermediary .cfm page, passing it the name of the pdf file, which checks user's access rights to requested pdf and serves the file or shows an error. Azadi On 22/06/2011 22:33 , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: Hi, I've noticed that application.cfm is indeed run before the template called in the url, but the template itself is compiled BEFORE application.cfm is called. I need to have the ability in application.cfm to run some code and NOT compile the template. Is it possible ? CF 9 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345536 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer
I'm one of those, probably relatively few, devs that went the opposite route, starting off in CF and then picking up C#. I didn't do CS in college, actually any programming at all, but got a math degree so I had the analytical skills at least and algorithmic thinking. I picked up CF starting with 3.1 and then later on started picking up OO, AOP, DI and other fun design patterns in the last couple of years, all in CF. My (pretty much just me) company got acquired by a shop that is all .NET in C# and so I've also spent part of the 2 or so years getting up to speed in C#. It's been interesting to see what transfers over and what doesn't. I was ahead of a number of my coworkers when it came to things like doing dependency injection, using MVC, using generics and using delegates. But I didn't really have a sense of designing using Interfaces and typing and type conversion frequently bites me in the ass. Anyway, in the end, I think that the important part is finding people who are able to learn and have a desire to. Then give them the opportunity and expose them to whatever the evolving best practices are in that particular language/framework and make sure they have the resources to keep learning. If you have all that, you'll end up with good devs. Judah On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Tariq Ahmed ta...@dopejam.com wrote: Taking developers from other backgrounds has been one of our strategies: http://riarockstars.com/2011/03/10/a-managers-take-on-the-state-of-cf-the-scarcity-talent/ The bare minimum effort to get something loosely working is way easier in CF vs. Java. Unfortunately the majority of CF developers leave their skills at that - thus finding true CF experts is extremely difficult. Advanced Java/.NET folk pick CF up in two seconds, and they bring their formal software development OO theory design with them. So we don't even look specifically for CFers anymore, just strong developers in general. Though the flip side to that is Sr. developers of another language probably want to stick with their language of choice. So finding people who are in-between intermediate and sr. is the sweet spot. :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345537 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Timing out a webpage
Hey all. I have an online test that I want to timeout after 15mins. Does ColdFusion have a feature built-in to do this? It's my first time doing this sort of thing. Thanks. Kind Regards, WebLogomailsig Rick Sanders Webenergy Software 902-401-7689 http://www.webenergy.ca http://www.webenergy.ca/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345538 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Timing out a webpage
Can the timeout check happen on a page load? Or do you need to have it happen while page is displayed? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Rick Sanders r...@webenergy.ca wrote: Hey all. I have an online test that I want to timeout after 15mins. Does ColdFusion have a feature built-in to do this? It's my first time doing this sort of thing. Thanks. Kind Regards, WebLogomailsig Rick Sanders Webenergy Software 902-401-7689 http://www.webenergy.ca http://www.webenergy.ca/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345539 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
The admin can still edit users, even 1000's Which admin? Window's or CF? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345540 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
I agree to both Steven and Azadi's solution. Of course I know this solution. I thought I had a simpler one. Someone can rename a CFM file to a PDF file and upload it. Now that CFM code can be executed on the server. No way. Even if the pseudo pdf file actually contains CFML code, it cannot be executed. At best, the file will be sent as a pdf file by CFCONTENT then application.cfm CFABORTs Furthermore, only the customer, who has paid for his system, is able to upload files. I doubt he ever attemps to sabotage his own system. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345541 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
the admin of your CMS On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:48 PM, wrote: The admin can still edit users, even 1000's Which admin? Window's or CF? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345542 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Timing out a webpage
well you have 2 options. set your session timeout to 15 minutes, this will then mean they cannot sit on a page doing nothing for more than 15 minutes. If you want to time them for 15 minutes regardless of how many pages they load or refresh then you could create a Javascript timer, Google will garnish you with one of these. Russ On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:39 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: Can the timeout check happen on a page load? Or do you need to have it happen while page is displayed? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Rick Sanders r...@webenergy.ca wrote: Hey all. I have an online test that I want to timeout after 15mins. Does ColdFusion have a feature built-in to do this? It's my first time doing this sort of thing. Thanks. Kind Regards, WebLogomailsig Rick Sanders Webenergy Software 902-401-7689 http://www.webenergy.ca http://www.webenergy.ca/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345543 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
the admin of your CMS Of course, this is the way it works, but you were talking about password protect certain folders. I don't see how this can be done by CF code when files other than .cfm or .cfc are requested by HTTP and the CF server is not even invoked. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345545 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Timing out a webpage
...but note that Javascript can be turned off. So, in addition, you'd want to do something like this on page load (including first page where timer should start and last page that processes test): cfparam name=session.starttime default=#now()# cfif datediff(n, session.starttime, now()) GT 15 !--- run some test timed out code --- /cfif On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: well you have 2 options. set your session timeout to 15 minutes, this will then mean they cannot sit on a page doing nothing for more than 15 minutes. If you want to time them for 15 minutes regardless of how many pages they load or refresh then you could create a Javascript timer, Google will garnish you with one of these. Russ On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:39 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: Can the timeout check happen on a page load? Or do you need to have it happen while page is displayed? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Rick Sanders r...@webenergy.ca wrote: Hey all. I have an online test that I want to timeout after 15mins. Does ColdFusion have a feature built-in to do this? It's my first time doing this sort of thing. Thanks. Kind Regards, WebLogomailsig Rick Sanders Webenergy Software 902-401-7689 http://www.webenergy.ca http://www.webenergy.ca/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345546 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: application.cfm
It is pretty simple. use CFFILE to read the .htaccess file add a new user use CFFILE to write the .htaccess file User logs in, when he is authenticated, his credentials are available in the CGI scope for you to use via CFML. As I said, on Apache this is native, on IIS you can use Helicon APE (which probably has an API as well). Russ On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:08 PM, wrote: the admin of your CMS Of course, this is the way it works, but you were talking about password protect certain folders. I don't see how this can be done by CF code when files other than .cfm or .cfc are requested by HTTP and the CF server is not even invoked. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345547 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
mysterious cfhttp issue
OK, I cannot figure this out for the life of me and it's driving me crazy. For an entire day I was trying to integrate with the Spreedly.com API, and no matter what I did (importing certificates, etc.) I got this mysterious PEER could not authenticate message. I posted a thread here the other day about it, but eventually found this post (and workaround) on Ray Camden's blog, outlining the issue: http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2011/1/12/Diagnosing-a-CFHTTP-issue--peer-not-authenticated So I plugged in the fix described by Simon Free and Pete Freitag, which worked great for exactly 1 day. Then, the workaround stopped working again. Then it started again. Then it stopped again. I cannot get any consistent results from this thing! I don't know if my requests are being routed to different servers on Spreedly's end that are somehow configured differently, or what, but I know this is the bug that Ray Camden describes and that Jason Dean filed a bug report for here: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html#bugId=85815 On my production server, the workaround seems to always work, but on my development machine, it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. Now, more often than not it works only WITHOUT the workaround. This stuff is over my head, unfortunately. Does anyone have any sugggestions? I would just leave the fix in all the time, but when I do and it's not required, it breaks the application. When I take it out, and it is required, it breaks the application. I have setup the simplest possible test page here, without workaround: http://spanishwizards.com/index.cfm?event=test.spreedly And with workaround: http://spanishwizards.com/index.cfm?event=test.spreedlyuseWorkaround=true And while it seems consistent (so far) on my production server, I can't duplicate these results consistently on my development machine. Thanks for any insight, Brian ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345548 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Timing out a webpage
You may want to use multiple ways to do it... If you just use javascript then your timeout would be bypassed by just turning off javascript in the browser. Steve -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:02 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Timing out a webpage well you have 2 options. set your session timeout to 15 minutes, this will then mean they cannot sit on a page doing nothing for more than 15 minutes. If you want to time them for 15 minutes regardless of how many pages they load or refresh then you could create a Javascript timer, Google will garnish you with one of these. Russ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345544 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Inserting data using QODBC
If anyone is using the QODBC read/write driver, could you possibly post an example cfquery doing an insert into the customer table that works? I have not been able to accomplish this simple exercise as it gives me a crazy error: [macromedia][sequelink jdbc driver][QODBC] Error parsing complete XML return string. I know QODBC supposedly converts Coldfusion to XML in the background, but I am lost and could sure use a pointer or 2. I created a ticket in their suppost forum, but no answer. Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345549 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: mysterious cfhttp issue
Brian, If the work around works consistently on the production server then it seems you have the problem solved. for your development machine perhaps you could add in some error handling. If the workaround breaks, automatically swap to the normal method. Perhaps it may be worth getting a copy of the cert at the other end in both circumstances and comparing them, it may be as you said that they have multiple servers on a cluster and it may not be the exact same cert on each server. Russ On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Brian FitzGerald bmfitzgera...@yahoo.comwrote: OK, I cannot figure this out for the life of me and it's driving me crazy. For an entire day I was trying to integrate with the Spreedly.com API, and no matter what I did (importing certificates, etc.) I got this mysterious PEER could not authenticate message. I posted a thread here the other day about it, but eventually found this post (and workaround) on Ray Camden's blog, outlining the issue: http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2011/1/12/Diagnosing-a-CFHTTP-issue--peer-not-authenticated So I plugged in the fix described by Simon Free and Pete Freitag, which worked great for exactly 1 day. Then, the workaround stopped working again. Then it started again. Then it stopped again. I cannot get any consistent results from this thing! I don't know if my requests are being routed to different servers on Spreedly's end that are somehow configured differently, or what, but I know this is the bug that Ray Camden describes and that Jason Dean filed a bug report for here: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html#bugId=85815 On my production server, the workaround seems to always work, but on my development machine, it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. Now, more often than not it works only WITHOUT the workaround. This stuff is over my head, unfortunately. Does anyone have any sugggestions? I would just leave the fix in all the time, but when I do and it's not required, it breaks the application. When I take it out, and it is required, it breaks the application. I have setup the simplest possible test page here, without workaround: http://spanishwizards.com/index.cfm?event=test.spreedly And with workaround: http://spanishwizards.com/index.cfm?event=test.spreedlyuseWorkaround=true And while it seems consistent (so far) on my production server, I can't duplicate these results consistently on my development machine. Thanks for any insight, Brian ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345550 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: mysterious cfhttp issue
Hey Russ, Thank you for the suggestions. Thinking about it again, you're right; as long as it works in production that's what's important. It was just giving me such a hassle in development that I kinda had my heart set on having it work right in both places :) With that said, implementing the workaround you suggested should suffice for my development environment. I'll do that. Kind Regards, Brian ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345551 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: application.cfm
CF should not be compiling anything that is not CFML, if it is this actually happening then it sounds like a bug in CF. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO- 8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859- 1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 1:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: application.cfm But I am at a loss to explain how a PDF is going to throw a CF Exception error, when using cfcontent to deliver the file it should not be trying to compile that content. The error is not thrown using cfcontent, but simply when CF compiles the file when the HTTP request is received, before even executing application.cfm In my mind, application.cfm was called first, then the template compiled and run. Apparently, both application.cfm and the template are compiled first, then executed. This means that if application.cfm does not let the template to be executed, it is compiled for nothing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345552 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF vs. Java Web Developer
Judah my point exactly. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 4:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer I'm one of those, probably relatively few, devs that went the opposite route, starting off in CF and then picking up C#. I didn't do CS in college, actually any programming at all, but got a math degree so I had the analytical skills at least and algorithmic thinking. I picked up CF starting with 3.1 and then later on started picking up OO, AOP, DI and other fun design patterns in the last couple of years, all in CF. My (pretty much just me) company got acquired by a shop that is all .NET in C# and so I've also spent part of the 2 or so years getting up to speed in C#. It's been interesting to see what transfers over and what doesn't. I was ahead of a number of my coworkers when it came to things like doing dependency injection, using MVC, using generics and using delegates. But I didn't really have a sense of designing using Interfaces and typing and type conversion frequently bites me in the ass. Anyway, in the end, I think that the important part is finding people who are able to learn and have a desire to. Then give them the opportunity and expose them to whatever the evolving best practices are in that particular language/framework and make sure they have the resources to keep learning. If you have all that, you'll end up with good devs. Judah ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345553 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: application.cfm
.htacces file dude you were told that. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO- 8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859- 1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 5:09 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: application.cfm the admin of your CMS Of course, this is the way it works, but you were talking about password protect certain folders. I don't see how this can be done by CF code when files other than .cfm or .cfc are requested by HTTP and the CF server is not even invoked. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345554 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: application.cfm
Would that not be another risk, or do you mean secured login via an admin panel to edit ths? Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 5:15 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: application.cfm It is pretty simple. use CFFILE to read the .htaccess file add a new user use CFFILE to write the .htaccess file User logs in, when he is authenticated, his credentials are available in the CGI scope for you to use via CFML. As I said, on Apache this is native, on IIS you can use Helicon APE (which probably has an API as well). Russ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:34 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
