Re: CF8 Instances hanging every 3-4 days or so.
have you checked the currently running requests and performed stack traces to see what is happening when the instances are hung ? one common cause for such behaviour is connections to external resources failing or timing out such as databases. -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com : ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine sky ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347587 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
cfwindow, cfgridcolumn href problem
I am having a problem that I just can't seem to find an answer to. I have
searched on this and tried several alternatives. Now I am relatively new to
cfwindow and cfgrid so I am sure I must be missing something/
I am using cfgrid within a cfwindow. Within the grid I am using a href on one
of the columns to link me to another page. What I want to happen is to display
this page in the same cfwindow
The problem I have is whenever I click on the link the cfwindow disappears and
the new page displays in the original browser window. If I use a submit and
submit the cfform it works fine (unfortunately functionally I cant do that)
I have tried all kinds of solutions but have not succeeded yet, I have tried:
1. Using appendkey=yes and href=page.cfm' this has the result above.
2. appendkey = yes and href=javascript:ColdFusion.navigate
('page.cfm','mywindow_body');
This has no effect probably because can't have appendkey=yes and
javascript in
HREF
3. I even tried using a seconf cfwindow to display the page and a function to
show a second window, if linked click in grid using body onload to open
second
window.
If you use a separate browser window using window.open everything works fine.
The grid shows up in the window, when I click on the link the new page shows up
in the same window.
Below is the code I am using in example #1 above:
Page 1 - opens the window, displays cfgrid
--
cfwindow x=210 y=100 width=940 height=675 refreshonshow=true
name=mywindow minHeight=400 minWidth=400 title=Find an occupation
initshow=false source=T_occupation.cfm?cfdebug modal=true /
a href=javascript:ColdFusion.Window.show('mywindow');img
src=images/Add.gif align=middle border=0/a
Page 2
--
cfgrid width=900 bindonload=no autowidth=true
attributeCollection=#args#
name=Ian appendkey=Yes selectmode=Row
bind=cfc:occupation.getWorkActivities({cfgridpage},{cfgridpagesize},
{cfgridsortcolumn},{cfgridsortdirection},{filter2@keyup},{filter3@keyup})
cfgridcolumn name=onetcode href=page.cfm header=Job Reqmnt Code
select=false dataalign=left width=20
cfgridcolumn name=elementName header=Description select=false
/cfgrid
I know I must be missing something.
Thank you for any help,
Ian
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20USD/Hour Seriously?
I'm bit confused why so cheap? Just 6 months ago I was hiring out at 50-75USD/hour. If this is typical cf-jobs side work rate now I am disappointed. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347589 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Application.cfc OnErrorRequest
Hi, I have a site I'm converting to use application.cfc rather than application.cfm. I have a setting I use to say I'm on local (development mode) or live. If application.setlocal eq 1 I'm in dev mode and it turns a bunch of stuff on or off to help me with development. Works perfectly for everything except OnError. I have the following for OnError. Live mode (application.setlocal eq 0) works perfectly. It's the ELSE that's not working. In the else I want it to show robust error messaging... but I'm getting a blank screen. Any ideas on how I can make it show me robust error handling? cffunction name=OnError access=public returntype=void output=true hint=Fires when an exception occures that is not caught by a try/catch. cfif application.setlocal eq 0 cferror template=error_handler.cfm type=exception cfreturn false / cfelse cfargument name=Exception required=true/ cfargument name=EventName type=String required=true/ cfreturn / /cfif /cffunction Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347590 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
IMHO, you get what you pay for. I've talked with several clients who hired at $20/hr or even less. I'm usually called in to clean up the mess at my standard rate ($50/hr) and they almost always don't bat an eye paying it having learned their lesson. I will admit though... I HAVE done work for $20/hr. But only if the extras (how fun it will be to code it, free trips to seminars, etc) make it worth it. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Integration Developer tyrsbl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm bit confused why so cheap? Just 6 months ago I was hiring out at 50-75USD/hour. If this is typical cf-jobs side work rate now I am disappointed. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347591 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Application.cfc OnErrorRequest
I have the following for OnError. Live mode (application.setlocal eq 0) works perfectly. It's the ELSE that's not working. In the else I want it to show robust error messaging... but I'm getting a blank screen. The onError() method is catching the error for you, so if you want ColdFusion to re-throw the exception, try the cfrethrow tag to have it raise the exception again. -Justi ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347592 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Application.cfc OnErrorRequest
Using cftrycfcatch type=Anycfrethrow/cfcatch/cftry Still gives me a blank page with no error information. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:24 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Application.cfc OnErrorRequest I have the following for OnError. Live mode (application.setlocal eq 0) works perfectly. It's the ELSE that's not working. In the else I want it to show robust error messaging... but I'm getting a blank screen. The onError() method is catching the error for you, so if you want ColdFusion to re-throw the exception, try the cfrethrow tag to have it raise the exception again. -Justi ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347593 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Application.cfc OnErrorRequest
Found it... In spite of Adobe's documentation which says: This method does not return a value; do not use the cfreturn tag. (http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/help.html?content=AppEvents_06.html) Adding cfreturn false / Now this (below) works as expected: cffunction name=OnError access=public returntype=void output=true hint=Fires when an exception occures that is not caught by a try/catch. cfif application.setlocal eq 0 cferror template=error_handler.cfm type=exception cfreturn false / cfelse cftrycfcatch type=Anycfrethrow/cfcatch/cftry cfreturn false / /cfif /cffunction Thanks Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347594 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
Is it just me or does this post smell of trollage? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: IMHO, you get what you pay for. I've talked with several clients who hired at $20/hr or even less. I'm usually called in to clean up the mess at my standard rate ($50/hr) and they almost always don't bat an eye paying it having learned their lesson. I will admit though... I HAVE done work for $20/hr. But only if the extras (how fun it will be to code it, free trips to seminars, etc) make it worth it. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Integration Developer tyrsbl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm bit confused why so cheap? Just 6 months ago I was hiring out at 50-75USD/hour. If this is typical cf-jobs side work rate now I am disappointed. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347595 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
No trollage was intended. Seriously. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:50 AM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does this post smell of trollage? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: IMHO, you get what you pay for. I've talked with several clients who hired at $20/hr or even less. I'm usually called in to clean up the mess at my standard rate ($50/hr) and they almost always don't bat an eye paying it having learned their lesson. I will admit though... I HAVE done work for $20/hr. But only if the extras (how fun it will be to code it, free trips to seminars, etc) make it worth it. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Integration Developer tyrsbl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm bit confused why so cheap? Just 6 months ago I was hiring out at 50-75USD/hour. If this is typical cf-jobs side work rate now I am disappointed. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347596 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
20USD/Hour Seriously? Is it just me or does this post smell of trollage? I though it smelled a bit like Mumbai ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347597 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
CF dev's I know work for between 75 and 110. I wouldn't even talk on the phone for $20/hour. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: No trollage was intended. Seriously. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:50 AM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does this post smell of trollage? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: IMHO, you get what you pay for. I've talked with several clients who hired at $20/hr or even less. I'm usually called in to clean up the mess at my standard rate ($50/hr) and they almost always don't bat an eye paying it having learned their lesson. I will admit though... I HAVE done work for $20/hr. But only if the extras (how fun it will be to code it, free trips to seminars, etc) make it worth it. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Integration Developer tyrsbl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm bit confused why so cheap? Just 6 months ago I was hiring out at 50-75USD/hour. If this is typical cf-jobs side work rate now I am disappointed. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347598 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
Ok just wondering, because this is how I read that post: Hey guys I found a CF job for $20 an hour :( :( :( I can't effing believe that every CF job on Earth doesn't pay AT LEAST 1 Million Dollars per hour. This is stupid right? ColdFusion is stupid now right? But I get that you're sincere. You could always not take that job and look for something $$$ier. I personally know some full time students that work at CF jobs that start at $13 an hour, and some pros that work at salaried gigs that equate to about $70 an hour. Depending on what project you're working on, who you're working for, and your talent/productivity level, your pay will vary wildly. In pretty much every industry and career on Earth. That's just life my friend. If you find that you're not earning as much as you'd like, upgrade yourself. Education, work ethic, a focus on technique. The world is your oyster and so forth! On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: No trollage was intended. Seriously. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:50 AM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does this post smell of trollage? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: IMHO, you get what you pay for. I've talked with several clients who hired at $20/hr or even less. I'm usually called in to clean up the mess at my standard rate ($50/hr) and they almost always don't bat an eye paying it having learned their lesson. I will admit though... I HAVE done work for $20/hr. But only if the extras (how fun it will be to code it, free trips to seminars, etc) make it worth it. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Integration Developer tyrsbl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm bit confused why so cheap? Just 6 months ago I was hiring out at 50-75USD/hour. If this is typical cf-jobs side work rate now I am disappointed. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347599 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
I agree. For $20/hr ... I wouldn't even talk for less than $60... but I'd expect better and generally get it. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347600 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
Integration Developer tyrsbl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm bit confused why so cheap? Just 6 months ago I was hiring out at 50-75USD/hour. If this is typical cf-jobs side work rate now I am disappointed. I think we should hesitate on discussing rates on a public site. There are too many variables to consider in evaluating rates. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347601 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:11 AM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: Ok just wondering, because this is how I read that post: Hey guys I found a CF job for $20 an hour :( :( :( I can't effing believe that every CF job on Earth doesn't pay AT LEAST 1 Million Dollars per hour. This is stupid right? ColdFusion is stupid now right? I I don't see how you can see that in my post... I'm honestly trying, but I don't follow.. That's pretty much has nothing to do with what I posted. What I was trying to say is that I usually work for $50 an hour. If a company contracted me out to (let's say.. Valve) for $20/hr, I would lower my rate of pay to go work that company (especially when you get every game on steam for it and they have on-call massages available. Yes, I'm being serious). So if $20/hr + perks means I am making more then $50/hr, then I'll take the cut in pay for the extras (and the prestige of working there). I, in no way, think CF is stupid. I just got off a contract for $40/hr. for 6 months. The length of time of the contract helped me decide to go to $40 an hour. CF right now is keeping me working. :) That's a good thing in my mind. You could always not take that job and look for something $$$ier. I'm ALWAYS looking for more work. Even if I'm working for the $50/hr., if someone comes along and offers me $80/hr., I'll take it (finishing up my initial contract of course). I personally know some full time students that work at CF jobs that start at $13 an hour, and some pros that work at salaried gigs that equate to about $70 an hour. As do I. The 13-20/hr. I hear about are the people I'm usually called on to clean up after. Spaghetti code and such. Usually, I tell clients to nuke it from orbit to be sure and they agree. Once I have their site back up to how it should be (usually taking less time then the other guy), they are happy to pay the last part of the invoice. Hence my You get what you pay for ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347602 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
I didn't mean that you were actually saying CF was stupid. I was trying to just paraphrase your sentiment into a tantrum. Which is what it sounded like. But I get what you mean. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:11 AM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: Ok just wondering, because this is how I read that post: Hey guys I found a CF job for $20 an hour :( :( :( I can't effing believe that every CF job on Earth doesn't pay AT LEAST 1 Million Dollars per hour. This is stupid right? ColdFusion is stupid now right? I I don't see how you can see that in my post... I'm honestly trying, but I don't follow.. That's pretty much has nothing to do with what I posted. What I was trying to say is that I usually work for $50 an hour. If a company contracted me out to (let's say.. Valve) for $20/hr, I would lower my rate of pay to go work that company (especially when you get every game on steam for it and they have on-call massages available. Yes, I'm being serious). So if $20/hr + perks means I am making more then $50/hr, then I'll take the cut in pay for the extras (and the prestige of working there). I, in no way, think CF is stupid. I just got off a contract for $40/hr. for 6 months. The length of time of the contract helped me decide to go to $40 an hour. CF right now is keeping me working. :) That's a good thing in my mind. You could always not take that job and look for something $$$ier. I'm ALWAYS looking for more work. Even if I'm working for the $50/hr., if someone comes along and offers me $80/hr., I'll take it (finishing up my initial contract of course). I personally know some full time students that work at CF jobs that start at $13 an hour, and some pros that work at salaried gigs that equate to about $70 an hour. As do I. The 13-20/hr. I hear about are the people I'm usually called on to clean up after. Spaghetti code and such. Usually, I tell clients to nuke it from orbit to be sure and they agree. Once I have their site back up to how it should be (usually taking less time then the other guy), they are happy to pay the last part of the invoice. Hence my You get what you pay for ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347603 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
Ah.. ok then. :) On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:39 AM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't mean that you were actually saying CF was stupid. I was trying to just paraphrase your sentiment into a tantrum. Which is what it sounded like. But I get what you mean. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:11 AM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: Ok just wondering, because this is how I read that post: Hey guys I found a CF job for $20 an hour :( :( :( I can't effing believe that every CF job on Earth doesn't pay AT LEAST 1 Million Dollars per hour. This is stupid right? ColdFusion is stupid now right? I I don't see how you can see that in my post... I'm honestly trying, but I don't follow.. That's pretty much has nothing to do with what I posted. What I was trying to say is that I usually work for $50 an hour. If a company contracted me out to (let's say.. Valve) for $20/hr, I would lower my rate of pay to go work that company (especially when you get every game on steam for it and they have on-call massages available. Yes, I'm being serious). So if $20/hr + perks means I am making more then $50/hr, then I'll take the cut in pay for the extras (and the prestige of working there). I, in no way, think CF is stupid. I just got off a contract for $40/hr. for 6 months. The length of time of the contract helped me decide to go to $40 an hour. CF right now is keeping me working. :) That's a good thing in my mind. You could always not take that job and look for something $$$ier. I'm ALWAYS looking for more work. Even if I'm working for the $50/hr., if someone comes along and offers me $80/hr., I'll take it (finishing up my initial contract of course). I personally know some full time students that work at CF jobs that start at $13 an hour, and some pros that work at salaried gigs that equate to about $70 an hour. As do I. The 13-20/hr. I hear about are the people I'm usually called on to clean up after. Spaghetti code and such. Usually, I tell clients to nuke it from orbit to be sure and they agree. Once I have their site back up to how it should be (usually taking less time then the other guy), they are happy to pay the last part of the invoice. Hence my You get what you pay for ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347604 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Date Question
I have a date string I'm reading from an XML file. It's in this format: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:20:27 CST I'm in EST. How can convert this string to a data time value I can work with and tell if the data is more than 24 hours old? Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347605 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
The $20 per hour rates mainly come form India via sites like freelancer.com which is full of outsourcing companies. This is what you have to compete with. If a client wants to deal with someone native who speaks English properly, then they will pay your rates, if they just want the cheapest price possible then they will go to India. The majority of clients will regret getting it done on the cheap as they wont have the technical or project management skills and thus cannot get past the language/communication barrier that exists in this situations and will end up either not getting what they wanted, or it will end up taking them 5 times longer and thus not actually save them any money. There are plenty of skilled people in India, and the outsourcing works for some people if they have the project management skills or have someone that speaks perfect English and Perfect Hindu, but as with anywhere you have to wade through all the crap developers to find the good ones, and that can be tough when they are all blagging to their back teeth that they can do the best job for you and don't actually understand half of what your saying to them anyway. Clients who want a Guru/consultant should expect to pay $120+ ph :-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347606 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Date Question
Convert to EST by using DateAdd() to add/subtract the correect number of hours and then use dateCompare() to check the CST date against now() (for the 24 hours check) Cheers On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 12:52 -0400, Robert Harrison wrote: I have a date string I'm reading from an XML file. It's in this format: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:20:27 CST I'm in EST. How can convert this string to a data time value I can work with and tell if the data is more than 24 hours old? Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347607 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Date Question
This did it:
cfif isDate(emergency_rss_feed.items[1].pubdate)
cfset
date_published=#ParseDateTime(emergency_rss_feed.items[1].pubdate)#
cfset test_date=#DateAdd('h',-25,Now())#
cfif test_date lt date_published
/cfif
The part I was missing was ParseDateTime.
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Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Date Question
Convert to EST by using DateAdd() to add/subtract the correect number of hours
and then use dateCompare() to check the CST date against now() (for the 24
hours check)
Cheers
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 12:52 -0400, Robert Harrison wrote:
I have a date string I'm reading from an XML file. It's in this format:
Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:20:27 CST
I'm in EST.
How can convert this string to a data time value I can work with and tell if
the data is more than 24 hours old?
Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive Services
Austin Williams
125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100
Hauppauge NY 11788
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F : 631.434.7022
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Re: Dynamically Added Form Fields Not Submitted
Are you actually adding them as elements to the dom or just adding the html text to the table data? I've had this exact issue and gotten around by properly adding the children to the form. Hi, I've been adding them via DOM calls to table cells which are added to table rows which are added to a table. The table is within a form. It works just fine in IE. But, no FireFox. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347609 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Last Index Solr Collection
Is there a tag/call to get the last time a collection was indexed? (Using Solr CF9) ... Thanks Paul Giesenhagen Quill Design http://www.quilldesign.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347610 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF8 Instances hanging every 3-4 days or so.
I have run into similar situation long time back and I have 2 solutions for you. In my case this was due to memory leakage. The memory was used up completely in 2-3 days and required server restarts. 1. Use Java Garbage Collection Modify the JVM.CONFIG file and and append the following line to code to force GC every 10 minutes. -Dsun.rmi.dgc.client.gcInterval=60 -Dsun.rmi.dgc.server.gcInterval=60 2. Use Jrun Monitor This is a DotNet application developed by me to handle such situations. You can find more information on this at http://ketanjetty.com/coldfusion/monitor/jrun-monitor/ One of the reasons why this happens is discussed at http://ketanjetty.com/coldfusion/useful-code/avoid-coldfusion-hang. Should you need more information, please let me know. I am interested in knowing the cause for your server hangs. Thanks, Ketan Jetty http://KetanJetty.com kje...@gmail.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347611 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF8 Instances hanging every 3-4 days or so.
Yes, we use Fusion Reactor and can view the vitals including which threads are hung (essentially all threads). Other vitals don't point to anything suspect. However today, we had a different problem. Only one instance hung and it was a CPU problem. The entire server memory was being used by the one instance. Restarting the instance DID solve the problem, unlike the issue last night, where rebooting did not help. We had to restart the server. Today we made sure that all CFC and functions had properly scoped vars (they didn't before). Several of these cfcs were called each time a page loaded (often!). So we're keeping our fingers crossed that this was the problem. (Thanks Justin, we used varscoper to find them). Still would love to be able to clear those network sockets without rebooting the server after these events. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347612 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF8 Instances hanging every 3-4 days or so.
The BIG question here is that while the CPU(s) were maxed - was there a long running thread at the same time? If so, look into what the thread was doing. If not, then figure out what else on the server is making heavy use of the CPU(s). Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Richard Steele wrote: Yes, we use Fusion Reactor and can view the vitals including which threads are hung (essentially all threads). Other vitals don't point to anything suspect. However today, we had a different problem. Only one instance hung and it was a CPU problem. The entire server memory was being used by the one instance. Restarting the instance DID solve the problem, unlike the issue last night, where rebooting did not help. We had to restart the server. Today we made sure that all CFC and functions had properly scoped vars (they didn't before). Several of these cfcs were called each time a page loaded (often!). So we're keeping our fingers crossed that this was the problem. (Thanks Justin, we used varscoper to find them). Still would love to be able to clear those network sockets without rebooting the server after these events. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347613 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF8 Instances hanging every 3-4 days or so.
Right, couldn't even get there as the mouse was not responding since the cpu was at 100%. Was only barely able to restart the service. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347614 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF8 Instances hanging every 3-4 days or so.
Thanks for the info. Java Garbage Collection seems to be working fine as always. Rebooting the services doesn't free the network sockets and it continues to be a problem until the server is rebooted. 1. Use Java Garbage Collection Modify the JVM.CONFIG file and and append the following line to code to force GC every 10 minutes. -Dsun.rmi.dgc.client.gcInterval=60 -Dsun.rmi.dgc.server. gcInterval=60 2. Use Jrun Monitor This is a DotNet application developed by me to handle such situations. You can find more information on this at http://ketanjetty. com/coldfusion/monitor/jrun-monitor/ One of the reasons why this happens is discussed at http://ketanjetty. com/coldfusion/useful-code/avoid-coldfusion-hang. Should you need more information, please let me know. I am interested in knowing the cause for your server hangs. Thanks, Ketan Jetty http://KetanJetty.com kjetty@gmail. com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347615 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Dynamically Added Form Fields Not Submitted
Could you share some code? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Robert Nurse rnu...@gmail.com wrote: Are you actually adding them as elements to the dom or just adding the html text to the table data? I've had this exact issue and gotten around by properly adding the children to the form. Hi, I've been adding them via DOM calls to table cells which are added to table rows which are added to a table. The table is within a form. It works just fine in IE. But, no FireFox. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347616 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF8 Instances hanging every 3-4 days or so.
with fusion reactor u can store request data which may help when it is totally unresposnive On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Richard Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote: Thanks for the info. Java Garbage Collection seems to be working fine as always. Rebooting the services doesn't free the network sockets and it continues to be a problem until the server is rebooted. 1. Use Java Garbage Collection Modify the JVM.CONFIG file and and append the following line to code to force GC every 10 minutes. -Dsun.rmi.dgc.client.gcInterval=60 -Dsun.rmi.dgc.server. gcInterval=60 2. Use Jrun Monitor This is a DotNet application developed by me to handle such situations. You can find more information on this at http://ketanjetty. com/coldfusion/monitor/jrun-monitor/ One of the reasons why this happens is discussed at http://ketanjetty. com/coldfusion/useful-code/avoid-coldfusion-hang. Should you need more information, please let me know. I am interested in knowing the cause for your server hangs. Thanks, Ketan Jetty http://KetanJetty.com kjetty@gmail. com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347617 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Last Index Solr Collection
Doesn't cfcollection return a lastdatemodified field? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Paul Giesenhagen p...@quilldesign.com wrote: Is there a tag/call to get the last time a collection was indexed? (Using Solr CF9) ... Thanks Paul Giesenhagen Quill Design http://www.quilldesign.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347618 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Last Index Solr Collection
No - it's lastmodified. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't cfcollection return a lastdatemodified field? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Paul Giesenhagen p...@quilldesign.com wrote: Is there a tag/call to get the last time a collection was indexed? (Using Solr CF9) ... Thanks Paul Giesenhagen Quill Design http://www.quilldesign.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347619 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF8 Instances hanging every 3-4 days or so.
I am having the same problem.. Sometimes restarting the cold fusion service and/or web publishing service fixes it but most of the time doesn't. I saw something really strange in the performance monitor that I can't understand. There is only 1 website running on the server - with usually very low traffic.. I rebooted this morning. Right now it says Total Annonymous users (total on server) 17,530 But files (total on server) sent is 7,130. How could there be more anonymous users than files sent? Does that make sense? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347620 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF8 Instances hanging every 3-4 days or so.
there are quite a number of things that can cause high number of user/connections. bots, webcrawlers are most common. cf will regulalry get brute force attacks on the cf/administrator or RDS your event logs and weblogs should give u some idea On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Al Musella, DPM muse...@virtualtrials.com wrote: I am having the same problem.. Sometimes restarting the cold fusion service and/or web publishing service fixes it but most of the time doesn't. I saw something really strange in the performance monitor that I can't understand. There is only 1 website running on the server - with usually very low traffic.. I rebooted this morning. Right now it says Total Annonymous users (total on server) 17,530 But files (total on server) sent is 7,130. How could there be more anonymous users than files sent? Does that make sense? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347621 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
He may have been referring to a poster to the cf-jobs list, who offered their services (and claimed better than average knowledge) at $20/hr. Horrific when someone undervalues their services so much. Even worse when they undervalue everyone else's by making a post like that. Good CF devs are a valuable commodity. Great (available) CF devs a rare commodity. Don't sell yourself, and everyone else, short. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/22/2011 12:11 PM, David McGuigan wrote: Ok just wondering, because this is how I read that post: Hey guys I found a CF job for $20 an hour :( :( :( I can't effing believe that every CF job on Earth doesn't pay AT LEAST 1 Million Dollars per hour. This is stupid right? ColdFusion is stupid now right? But I get that you're sincere. You could always not take that job and look for something $$$ier. I personally know some full time students that work at CF jobs that start at $13 an hour, and some pros that work at salaried gigs that equate to about $70 an hour. Depending on what project you're working on, who you're working for, and your talent/productivity level, your pay will vary wildly. In pretty much every industry and career on Earth. That's just life my friend. If you find that you're not earning as much as you'd like, upgrade yourself. Education, work ethic, a focus on technique. The world is your oyster and so forth! On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: No trollage was intended. Seriously. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:50 AM, David McGuigandavidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does this post smell of trollage? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: IMHO, you get what you pay for. I've talked with several clients who hired at $20/hr or even less. I'm usually called in to clean up the mess at my standard rate ($50/hr) and they almost always don't bat an eye paying it having learned their lesson. I will admit though... I HAVE done work for $20/hr. But only if the extras (how fun it will be to code it, free trips to seminars, etc) make it worth it. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Integration Developer tyrsbl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm bit confused why so cheap? Just 6 months ago I was hiring out at 50-75USD/hour. If this is typical cf-jobs side work rate now I am disappointed. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347622 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
Yeah, what Cutter said. Well put, my friend. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: He may have been referring to a poster to the cf-jobs list, who offered their services (and claimed better than average knowledge) at $20/hr. Horrific when someone undervalues their services so much. Even worse when they undervalue everyone else's by making a post like that. Good CF devs are a valuable commodity. Great (available) CF devs a rare commodity. Don't sell yourself, and everyone else, short. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/22/2011 12:11 PM, David McGuigan wrote: Ok just wondering, because this is how I read that post: Hey guys I found a CF job for $20 an hour :( :( :( I can't effing believe that every CF job on Earth doesn't pay AT LEAST 1 Million Dollars per hour. This is stupid right? ColdFusion is stupid now right? But I get that you're sincere. You could always not take that job and look for something $$$ier. I personally know some full time students that work at CF jobs that start at $13 an hour, and some pros that work at salaried gigs that equate to about $70 an hour. Depending on what project you're working on, who you're working for, and your talent/productivity level, your pay will vary wildly. In pretty much every industry and career on Earth. That's just life my friend. If you find that you're not earning as much as you'd like, upgrade yourself. Education, work ethic, a focus on technique. The world is your oyster and so forth! On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: No trollage was intended. Seriously. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:50 AM, David McGuigandavidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does this post smell of trollage? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: IMHO, you get what you pay for. I've talked with several clients who hired at $20/hr or even less. I'm usually called in to clean up the mess at my standard rate ($50/hr) and they almost always don't bat an eye paying it having learned their lesson. I will admit though... I HAVE done work for $20/hr. But only if the extras (how fun it will be to code it, free trips to seminars, etc) make it worth it. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Integration Developer tyrsbl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm bit confused why so cheap? Just 6 months ago I was hiring out at 50-75USD/hour. If this is typical cf-jobs side work rate now I am disappointed. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347623 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: He may have been referring to a poster to the cf-jobs list, who offered their services (and claimed better than average knowledge) at $20/hr. Horrific when someone undervalues their services so much. Even worse when they undervalue everyone else's by making a post like that. Yes, I saw that cf-jobs post. The guy has posted fairly often in the past, pushing himself as an experienced CFer for various rates i.r.o. $20/hour. Consulting groups tend to go in between $150/hour and $200/hour - sometimes even more - and even with their cut, $85/hour is about the least I've seen good CFers getting that way... more usually they get over $100/hour. Good CF devs are a valuable commodity. Great (available) CF devs a rare commodity. Don't sell yourself, and everyone else, short. Absolutely. Accepting a below market rate devalues everyone's work. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347624 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Dynamically Added Form Fields Not Submitted
You need to add the form elements to the form, not the table. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -Original Message- From: Robert Nurse [mailto:rnu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:48 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Dynamically Added Form Fields Not Submitted Are you actually adding them as elements to the dom or just adding the html text to the table data? I've had this exact issue and gotten around by properly adding the children to the form. Hi, I've been adding them via DOM calls to table cells which are added to table rows which are added to a table. The table is within a form. It works just fine in IE. But, no FireFox. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347625 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
Not to start a flame war But there are 14 million ppl out of work in the US. Many who have been out of a job for over a year. I would imagine there are a few CF'ers/PHP'ers/Insert your stack here, etc. who have been out of work long enough to be hurting enough to take any work that they can get. I have been there even in good economic times when I was self employed. To quote Bob and Doug, $10 is $10 eh? I agree with Sean and Matt but there are others that are not as fortunate to have a CV as impressive as theirs. Flame on Garth, G! My $0.02 and worth every penny On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: He may have been referring to a poster to the cf-jobs list, who offered their services (and claimed better than average knowledge) at $20/hr. Horrific when someone undervalues their services so much. Even worse when they undervalue everyone else's by making a post like that. Yes, I saw that cf-jobs post. The guy has posted fairly often in the past, pushing himself as an experienced CFer for various rates i.r.o. $20/hour. Consulting groups tend to go in between $150/hour and $200/hour - sometimes even more - and even with their cut, $85/hour is about the least I've seen good CFers getting that way... more usually they get over $100/hour. Good CF devs are a valuable commodity. Great (available) CF devs a rare commodity. Don't sell yourself, and everyone else, short. Absolutely. Accepting a below market rate devalues everyone's work. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347626 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
Not to mention that $20 an hour is still a pretty damn good wage comparitively. Better than making $6.50 flipping burgers at McDonalds. andy -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:12 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously? Not to start a flame war But there are 14 million ppl out of work in the US. Many who have been out of a job for over a year. I would imagine there are a few CF'ers/PHP'ers/Insert your stack here, etc. who have been out of work long enough to be hurting enough to take any work that they can get. I have been there even in good economic times when I was self employed. To quote Bob and Doug, $10 is $10 eh? I agree with Sean and Matt but there are others that are not as fortunate to have a CV as impressive as theirs. Flame on Garth, G! My $0.02 and worth every penny On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: He may have been referring to a poster to the cf-jobs list, who offered their services (and claimed better than average knowledge) at $20/hr. Horrific when someone undervalues their services so much. Even worse when they undervalue everyone else's by making a post like that. Yes, I saw that cf-jobs post. The guy has posted fairly often in the past, pushing himself as an experienced CFer for various rates i.r.o. $20/hour. Consulting groups tend to go in between $150/hour and $200/hour - sometimes even more - and even with their cut, $85/hour is about the least I've seen good CFers getting that way... more usually they get over $100/hour. Good CF devs are a valuable commodity. Great (available) CF devs a rare commodity. Don't sell yourself, and everyone else, short. Absolutely. Accepting a below market rate devalues everyone's work. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347627 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Not to start a flame war But there are 14 million ppl out of work in the US. Many who have been out of a job for over a year. There are a lot of job openings for developers all over the country. If a programmer is out of work for over a year, the reason might be them, not the economy... If someone gets no interest in their resume after submitting it to dozens (or hundreds) of job openings, there's a problem with their resume - most resumes I see are pretty awful: they don't communicate why I should hire you - and the cover letters rarely communicate why you'd want to work for me / my company. If someone goes to countless interviews and gets turned down, there's a problem with how they interview (or their basic skills). Many candidates I've interviewed either cannot communicate their ideas and experience clearly or trip over on really basic technical stuff. Resume writing and interviewing are both skills folks can learn to do well - there's no real excuse for a poor resume or a poor interview. There are a lot of jobs out there but there is also a lot of competition. This is why I always emphasize how important it is to keep your skills up to date, to invest in yourself and your career. When I hear I can't afford to go to a conference / take training, my response is You can't afford not to. Apart from the learning experience, the networking opportunity alone can make a world of difference. Neither mine nor Matt's resumes got the way they are by sitting on our thumbs - and they didn't get that way thru being fortunate (at least, not primarily). This year I spoke at four (CFML) conferences and by the end of the year I will have attended seven other (non-CFML) conferences. I just got back from The Strange Loop which cost me, personally, about $1,300 but was worth every penny. I'm fortunate that my employer is funding Clojure Conj later this year but four of the other five non-CFML conferences all came out of my pocket (I only attended JAXconf because I won a ticket - by attending a *Java* User Group). Yes, I'm fortunate that many of those events are local because I'm in the Bay Area but that carries a huge penalty in cost of living terms. I attend a lot of non-CFML user groups - to both expand my skills and to spread the CFML love - and I try to attend as many non-CFML conferences as I reasonably can - again, to expand my skills and spread the CFML love. I consider that activity to be an investment in myself. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347628 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
Gerald, I'm not sure that those 14mil out work are developers. That market is still pretty tight. -Mark Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.408.3733 x105 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:12 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously? Not to start a flame war But there are 14 million ppl out of work in the US. Many who have been out of a job for over a year. I would imagine there are a few CF'ers/PHP'ers/Insert your stack here, etc. who have been out of work long enough to be hurting enough to take any work that they can get. I have been there even in good economic times when I was self employed. To quote Bob and Doug, $10 is $10 eh? I agree with Sean and Matt but there are others that are not as fortunate to have a CV as impressive as theirs. Flame on Garth, G! My $0.02 and worth every penny On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: He may have been referring to a poster to the cf-jobs list, who offered their services (and claimed better than average knowledge) at $20/hr. Horrific when someone undervalues their services so much. Even worse when they undervalue everyone else's by making a post like that. Yes, I saw that cf-jobs post. The guy has posted fairly often in the past, pushing himself as an experienced CFer for various rates i.r.o. $20/hour. Consulting groups tend to go in between $150/hour and $200/hour - sometimes even more - and even with their cut, $85/hour is about the least I've seen good CFers getting that way... more usually they get over $100/hour. Good CF devs are a valuable commodity. Great (available) CF devs a rare commodity. Don't sell yourself, and everyone else, short. Absolutely. Accepting a below market rate devalues everyone's work. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347629 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
Comment redacted. Please do not comment on it any more it is off topic and has no place on a technical mailing list. My apologies for any impassioned diatribes and rants that this may have sparked. It was not my intention in the least, nor is this the venue for such discourse. My bad, G! On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Gerald, I'm not sure that those 14mil out work are developers. That market is still pretty tight. -Mark Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.408.3733 x105 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:12 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously? Not to start a flame war But there are 14 million ppl out of work in the US. Many who have been out of a job for over a year. I would imagine there are a few CF'ers/PHP'ers/Insert your stack here, etc. who have been out of work long enough to be hurting enough to take any work that they can get. I have been there even in good economic times when I was self employed. To quote Bob and Doug, $10 is $10 eh? I agree with Sean and Matt but there are others that are not as fortunate to have a CV as impressive as theirs. Flame on Garth, G! My $0.02 and worth every penny On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: He may have been referring to a poster to the cf-jobs list, who offered their services (and claimed better than average knowledge) at $20/hr. Horrific when someone undervalues their services so much. Even worse when they undervalue everyone else's by making a post like that. Yes, I saw that cf-jobs post. The guy has posted fairly often in the past, pushing himself as an experienced CFer for various rates i.r.o. $20/hour. Consulting groups tend to go in between $150/hour and $200/hour - sometimes even more - and even with their cut, $85/hour is about the least I've seen good CFers getting that way... more usually they get over $100/hour. Good CF devs are a valuable commodity. Great (available) CF devs a rare commodity. Don't sell yourself, and everyone else, short. Absolutely. Accepting a below market rate devalues everyone's work. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347630 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Dynamically Added Form Fields Not Submitted
I've seen this behavior with malformed HTML were the form tags are between table and tr tags. Check to make sure your HTML is valid. -Dan On Thursday, September 22, 2011, Robert Nurse rnu...@gmail.com wrote: Are you actually adding them as elements to the dom or just adding the html text to the table data? I've had this exact issue and gotten around by properly adding the children to the form. Hi, I've been adding them via DOM calls to table cells which are added to table rows which are added to a table. The table is within a form. It works just fine in IE. But, no FireFox. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347631 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
