Re: Application Scoped CFC's and the Request Scope

2012-05-02 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades

I could see issues. In thinking about standard app flow, the app is 
instantiated, calling onApplicationStart (where most of your application 
vars would get created), the onSessionStart, and only then 
onRequestStart. In that model, reffing the request scope in your 
application vars would always cause a problem, since the request vars 
would not yet exist.

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On 5/1/2012 2:33 PM, Brook Davies wrote:
 Hey Guys,



 While I know its not best practice, I am setting some variables in the
 request scope that are then referenced by several application scoped CFCs.
 Can  this lead to collisions? I am seeing some strange errors that only
 happen when I run multiple requests at the same time and seem to involve the
 request scoped data. Could this potentially be the issue?



 Brook




 

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(ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Robert Harrison

I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is in 
the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks, repeated 
port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who do 
international business that some people cannot access their sites other parts 
of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central America, 
etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.

Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?



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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread John M Bliss

Sounds over-zealous. Before I even block a single IP, I'll query my DB to
try to determine whether valid traffic *ever* came from that IP. And, in
general, blocking IP's is a last resort.

I've never blocked a range.

There're better ways to prevent the stuff he's trying to prevent. He should
have a firewall that's smart/configurable enough to detect and prevent that
stuff at a granular level.


On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Robert Harrison
rob...@austin-williams.comwrote:


 I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is
 in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
 repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
 do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
 parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central
 America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.

 Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?



 Robert Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services

 Austin  Williams
 Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
 T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

 Blog:  http://www.austin-williams.com/blog
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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Andrew Scott

The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP is a fake IP,
and that means that legitimate IP's are and do get blocked for no good
reason.

Who is the Hosting Provider?

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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com
 wrote:


 I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is
 in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
 repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
 do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
 parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central
 America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.

 Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?



 Robert Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services

 Austin  Williams
 Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
 T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

 Blog:  http://www.austin-williams.com/blog
 Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_

 

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP is a fake IP,

I'm not a protocol specialist, just curious, but how can an IP be forged?

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread John M Bliss

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:29 AM,  wrote:


  The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP is a fake
 IP,

 I'm not a protocol specialist, just curious, but how can an IP be forged?

 

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RE: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Eric Bourland

I run a SmarterMail server, and have blocked a few IPs, very selectively,
only after I notice that consistent spam comes from those IPs that Barracuda
or the other RBLs do not catch. No complaints from clients so far. I don't
block entire countries or regions, though I have heard of administrators who
do so. Some of my clients travel a lot, so I don't block countries.

I send out friendly reminders to my clients to teach them how to recognize
spam and use spam filters in MS Outlook. I hope at least a few people read
them. =)

Perhaps you can have a conversation with your hosting provider about using
RBLs and configuring a firewall to do the spam blocking that he needs.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:58 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Blocking IPs


The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP is a fake IP,
and that means that legitimate IP's are and do get blocked for no good
reason.

Who is the Hosting Provider?

--
Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com
 wrote:


 I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is
 in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
 repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
 do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
 parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and
Central
 America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.

 Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?



 Robert Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services

 Austin  Williams
 Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
 T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

 Blog:  http://www.austin-williams.com/blog
 Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_

 



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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing

Thanks.
I can't believe it is that simple.

It would be so simple if the protocol was something like:
- sender: I have a message for you my IP is x.x.x.x
- receiver: Ok, here is the key: (UUID)
- sender: Ok, your key is (UUID), here is the message:...



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Re: How to get IIS7 to redirect with query string

2012-05-02 Thread Robert Rhodes

So, I finally finished this project up.  Thanks to Jonah and Andrew for
their suggestions on this.  The info was quite helpful.

--RR

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 8:38 PM, .jonah jonah@creori.com wrote:

 In the rules section of your web.config it'd be something like:

 rule name=favorite color rewrite
 match url=((?:[a-z][a-z0-9_]*))\/((**?:[a-z][a-z0-9_]*))\/((?:[a-z]**
 [a-z0-9_]*))\/((?:[a-z][a-z0-**9_]*))\/((?:[a-z][a-z0-9_]*)) /
 action type=Rewrite url=index.cfm?q=favorite.**
 colorsamp;{R:2}={R:3}amp;{R:**4}={R:5} appendQueryString=false /
 /rule


 On 4/4/12 5:22 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:

 Anyone out there know how to set up IIS7 to pass a query string?

 Any url construct is probably fine as long as I can pass four variables
 and
 it does not have a ? or a  in it (per client's requirements).

 I am trying to get something like...

 http://mydomain.com/redir/a/**red/b/greenhttp://mydomain.com/redir/a/red/b/green

 to redirect to:

 http://mydomain.com/index.cfm?**q=favorite.colorsa=redb=**greenhttp://mydomain.com/index.cfm?q=favorite.colorsa=redb=green

 Any Ideas?

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Dave Watts

 The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP is a fake IP,

This is not true. If you receive a message from an IP address, and the
attacker's action relies on a response to that IP address, it will not
be a fake IP address. It may not be the original IP address of the
attacker, but it is definitely the IP address of the host connecting
to you.

 and that means that legitimate IP's are and do get blocked for no good
 reason.

This is true, in the sense that they may well be on the same range.
But blocking individual addresses doesn't scale very well, to be
honest.

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Justin Scott

 The problem with IP blocking is that 99% of the time the IP
 is a fake IP, and that means that legitimate IP's are and do
 get blocked for no good reason.

It really depends on the type of attack.  If they're just flodding as
part of a DDOS attack then spoofing is viable, but for something like
a SQL injection attack the IP can't be spoofed per se.  In those cases
the biggest problem, in my opinion, is that it is ridiculously easy to
reroute (think TOR) and come from a different, unrelated IP in a
matter of seconds.


-Justin

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Dave Watts

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing

That is only useful for very specific, limited sorts of things. You
can't carry on a conversation with a remote server using a spoofed IP
address, because the server would have no way to respond. If you're
concerned about blocking spam email, for example, you don't have to
worry about people sending email through a spoofed IP address, because
SMTP is a TCP application, and TCP requires sequence numbers.

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RE: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Robert Harrison

Well, I've checked with some contacts I have who are experts in security.  One 
of them works in internet security for the DOD in Arlington, VA, one is the 
Security Director at a fortune 100 company, and one owns a large nationwide 
hosting company. All frowned on the practice of blocking port 80 by range of IP 
and said it's rare and extreme to totally block even a specific IP, but that it 
does happen. All thought that blocking mail traffic by IP was very normal.

I'm having conversations with my ISP about removing the blocks now. He is 
resistant, but the consensus is against blanket IP blocking.

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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Dave Watts

 I'm having conversations with my ISP about removing the blocks now. He is 
 resistant, but the consensus is against blanket IP blocking.

Well, one thing to note here is that it's easier for big ISPs to not
block IP blocks than small ones - big ISPs, by having more bandwidth,
more hosts to respond, etc, may have higher tolerance for higher
amounts of traffic (whether that traffic is legitimate or not).

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Video Streaming Provider

2012-05-02 Thread Robert Rhodes

My next project involves a bunch of streaming videos (mp4) for an
organization's users.

Each user will need to have access to a different set of videos. So, user 1
might have access to videos 100, 211, and 513, while user 2 has access to
videos 21, 100, 513 and 624.

So I'll need obviously need a different login, password, and access list
for each user.  I don't want to stream these videos on the organization's
site, but rather from an external provider.

Either I would just use this provider to stream the videos through a player
on the organization's site (preferred), or move the user off to the video
vendor's site and have the login and streaming happen there.  In that case,
I would need to set up the user specific video streaming lists at the
provider.

Either way, I am hoping to find a streaming video provider that has a
straightforward API that I can use to stream the videos and possible to set
up users, their passwords, and perhaps their access permissions to specific
videos.

Any suggestions?

Thanks to all, as always. :)

-RR


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Re: Video Streaming Provider

2012-05-02 Thread Brian Thornton

Brightcove...  It's cool also because the Allaire guys launched it.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Robert Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote:

 My next project involves a bunch of streaming videos (mp4) for an
 organization's users.

 Each user will need to have access to a different set of videos. So, user 1
 might have access to videos 100, 211, and 513, while user 2 has access to
 videos 21, 100, 513 and 624.

 So I'll need obviously need a different login, password, and access list
 for each user.  I don't want to stream these videos on the organization's
 site, but rather from an external provider.

 Either I would just use this provider to stream the videos through a player
 on the organization's site (preferred), or move the user off to the video
 vendor's site and have the login and streaming happen there.  In that case,
 I would need to set up the user specific video streaming lists at the
 provider.

 Either way, I am hoping to find a streaming video provider that has a
 straightforward API that I can use to stream the videos and possible to set
 up users, their passwords, and perhaps their access permissions to specific
 videos.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks to all, as always. :)

 -RR


 

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Re: Video Streaming Provider

2012-05-02 Thread Dave Watts

 Brightcove...  It's cool also because the Allaire guys launched it.

I'll second that - we're a very happy Brightcove partner.

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re: Video Streaming Provider

2012-05-02 Thread Jason Fisher

We use Amazon:  S3 for storage and CloudFront to stream out the hosted 
videos from edge locations all over the world.  Over the past year, Amazon 
has added granular permissions at the level of CloudFront 'buckets', so I 
would think you could manage your permissions right there.  Very 
inexpensive and excellent service over several years now.

- Jason



From: Robert Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:27 PM
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Video Streaming Provider

My next project involves a bunch of streaming videos (mp4) for an
organization's users.

Each user will need to have access to a different set of videos. So, user 
1
might have access to videos 100, 211, and 513, while user 2 has access to
videos 21, 100, 513 and 624.

So I'll need obviously need a different login, password, and access list
for each user.  I don't want to stream these videos on the organization's
site, but rather from an external provider.

Either I would just use this provider to stream the videos through a 
player
on the organization's site (preferred), or move the user off to the video
vendor's site and have the login and streaming happen there.  In that 
case,
I would need to set up the user specific video streaming lists at the
provider.

Either way, I am hoping to find a streaming video provider that has a
straightforward API that I can use to stream the videos and possible to 
set
up users, their passwords, and perhaps their access permissions to 
specific
videos.

Any suggestions?

Thanks to all, as always. :)

-RR



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Re: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-05-02 Thread Byron Mann

We've certainly never done this as a permanent solution. Blocking IPs or
ranges at the firewall wouldn't do much under a heavy DDOS, by the time the
traffic is there it's probably saturating other parts of the hosts network.

Better avenue would be to null route the destination IP on the edge routers
and work with upstream providers to determine the source and have them
block and/or shutdown the source.  Null routing mitigates most of the
effect of the DDOS on the rest of your network.

Either way blocking at the firewall or null routing destinations would be
temporary until the upstream provider could deal with things.

I'd bet $1.50 that your host really doesn't understand mitigation or is
hosting in another providers data center and doesn't have access to the
core network gear.

Also sounds like maybe they've had other customers complain about spam from
specific IPs and did this as a quick fix.

Byron Mann
Lead Engineer and Architect
HostMySite.com



On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Robert Harrison
rob...@austin-williams.comwrote:


 I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is
 in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
 repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
 do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
 parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central
 America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.

 Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?



 Robert Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services

 Austin  Williams
 Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
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Checking for a duplicate value question

2012-05-02 Thread Les Mizzell

Got an app that sends out email to various lists  - CF8

I'm checking to be sure there are any duplicates between the two lists

req.this list - usually pretty small - ten or so email addresses
req.groupLIST -  is the problem - it could be a500 or more addresses at 
times.

cfloop list=#req.thisLIST# index=i
cfif NOT listfindnocase(req.groupLIST,#i#)
   DO MY STUFF HERE
/cfif
/cfloop

Is there a more efficient way to do the above? If req.groupLIST ends up 
being a HUGE list - at what point will this choke down and time out?



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Re: Checking for a duplicate value question

2012-05-02 Thread Andrew Scott

When getting the information out of the database, us distinct on the field.

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On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Les Mizzell lesm...@bellsouth.net wrote:


 Got an app that sends out email to various lists  - CF8

 I'm checking to be sure there are any duplicates between the two lists

 req.this list - usually pretty small - ten or so email addresses
 req.groupLIST -  is the problem - it could be a500 or more addresses at
 times.

 cfloop list=#req.thisLIST# index=i
 cfif NOT listfindnocase(req.groupLIST,#i#)
   DO MY STUFF HERE
 /cfif
 /cfloop

 Is there a more efficient way to do the above? If req.groupLIST ends up
 being a HUGE list - at what point will this choke down and time out?



 

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