Re: How secure is RDS
I don't see anything about RDS in that article. The only thing I can think of if you saw it somewhere else is that RDS can be used to generate CFCs, but still, do this in dev only. You have several options for hitting CFC via remoting, including RTMP and AMF. There are lots of good articles out there on configuring endpoints in your services config. As for creating the objects in CF and making them available to Flex, here's one from a fellow I quite trust: http://blog.nictunney.com/2010/10/using-coldfusion-orm-with-flash.html -Nic On 2/28/11 7:21 PM, nic.tun...@nictunney.com nic.tun...@nictunney.com wrote: I'll check the link when I am home, but I use flash remoting all the time which uses blaze ds under the hood. You should never install rds in production. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone - Reply message - From: Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au Date: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 7:08 pm Subject: How secure is RDS To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com I don't see any where that it mentions using RDS to communicate with Flex-ColdFusion. I am no expert in Flash/Flex development but I am under the impression the Flash Remoting on ColdFusion is the way Flash talks to ColdFusion, however in development the Flash Builder might require RDS to do Flash development. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:03 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: How secure is RDS OK then Nic/Mark http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/fcf_ataglance_flex_coldfusion. html Seems to contradict you guys I'd love a non-webservice and non-RDS enabled solution, but Adobe seems to think RDS is the way?? I am in no way wanting to use RDS and not disagreeing with anyone's comments about its insecurty. ...and pleaseit doesn't is not a solution. Nic, if you know it doesn'tcan you provide the method of using CFCs in Flex that works for you? Thanks in advance Cheers ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342621 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: How secure is RDS
Check out my other reply. For the CF side of things you should be good to go. In Flex the wizard should help you point ot your services-config, but I;ve seen Flash Builder mess that up. Let us know if you have issues. Also, make sure you can hit http://yourdomain.com/flex2gateway in a browser (should return a blank page) to ensure remoting is properly configured. Nic On 2/28/11 7:43 PM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Thanks Nic et al I think the confusion was all mineand glad that's all it was as having to use RDS in PROD (as I thought was the case) would have been brutalamen!! Nicif I need more than to set CFC accesstype to remote and setup the data services in Flex via the wizard, please fill in the blanks for meif not...I think I'm done back under my rock I go ;-) Cheers On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 19:21 -0500, nic.tun...@nictunney.com wrote: I'll check the link when I am home, but I use flash remoting all the time which uses blaze ds under the hood. You should never install rds in production. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone - Reply message - From: Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au Date: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 7:08 pm Subject: How secure is RDS To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com I don't see any where that it mentions using RDS to communicate with Flex-ColdFusion. I am no expert in Flash/Flex development but I am under the impression the Flash Remoting on ColdFusion is the way Flash talks to ColdFusion, however in development the Flash Builder might require RDS to do Flash development. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:03 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: How secure is RDS OK then Nic/Mark http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/fcf_ataglance_flex_coldfusion. html Seems to contradict you guys I'd love a non-webservice and non-RDS enabled solution, but Adobe seems to think RDS is the way?? I am in no way wanting to use RDS and not disagreeing with anyone's comments about its insecurty. ...and pleaseit doesn't is not a solution. Nic, if you know it doesn'tcan you provide the method of using CFCs in Flex that works for you? Thanks in advance Cheers ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342622 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: How secure is RDS
The article is about CF 9 ORM, but the pattern remains the same. The ORM methods are generated in cf9, but in CF8 your objects would probably still have the same accessor methods. Nic On 2/28/11 8:01 PM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Oopsone last thing for now I think Nic The article seems to perhaps be more about CF 9 and ORM than Flex and CFis that a safe assumption? I'm asking because I'm stuck on CF 8 for the time being and hoping to avoid confusion between what I'm trying to do and what CF 9 can do ;-) Cheers -- Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342625 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: How secure is RDS
Most of my apps use multiple clients. I many times have a serviceProxy and remotingProxy. At a real basic level the remotingProxy mirrors whatever I need in the serviceProxy as remote methods. The service layer can be RESTful (put/get/post/delete), as Andrew suggested, or can be regular methods depending ont he needs of your application. What the blog post shows I how to package up your data using data transfer objects. Nic On 2/28/11 8:49 PM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: and it was the accessor stuff that lost me ;-) In simple terms are you talking about a single CFC that all other CFC calls pass-through? I've heard that called a facade, but whatever you call it, it is a way of not requiring all CFCs to be of accessType remote when using AJAX_CFC for example (at least that's what I do). The idea is that you pass the component and method name you want to call and all other args are passed as part of the arg collection to the target CFC. Any real code samples you know of? TIA Cheers On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 20:34 -0500, Nicholas Tunney wrote: The article is about CF 9 ORM, but the pattern remains the same. The ORM methods are generated in cf9, but in CF8 your objects would probably still have the same accessor methods. Nic On 2/28/11 8:01 PM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Oopsone last thing for now I think Nic The article seems to perhaps be more about CF 9 and ORM than Flex and CFis that a safe assumption? I'm asking because I'm stuck on CF 8 for the time being and hoping to avoid confusion between what I'm trying to do and what CF 9 can do ;-) Cheers -- Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342628 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Change in ColdFusion management
Wow, its like history in the making, bridges being built, right here on the cf-talk list. I'll expect the president to claim this was his doing on CNN at 5PM EDT. Don't miss it! -Nic On 2/15/11 4:01 PM, Adrocknaphobia adrocknapho...@gmail.com wrote: Dropped. -Adam On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Other way round Adam, you need to drop the vendetta. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Adrocknaphobia adrocknapho...@gmail.com wrote: Russ, It's clear you have beef with me. Saying I post first and think later is an insult. Just because you don't like what I post, doesn't mean I don't think about it. I promise that if you don't attack me, I won't attack you. -Adam On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Brian, if you think it is wrong I wont argue, all I can suggest is try searching the cf-talk archives and will find otherwise. I only read the occasional post on here and even I seen it to be a fairly regular occurrence, and that is discounting the ones directed at me. If I am in a tiny minority then fair enough, but I personally can't imagine too many people go around insulting their customers and trying to turn them into anti-customers, especially when they are evangelists and are defending your product. Sorry if I can't see the sense in that, perhaps I am just weird. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Brian Kotek brian...@gmail.com wrote: That's one way to look at it. But the much more likely view (and the one Adobe sees) is that the people who think he's guilty of bad behavior are not only a tiny minority, but are also wrong. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Crikey, well if Adobe promote staff for bad behavior then we are all in the wrong job :-) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Brian Kotek brian...@gmail.com wrote: lol. Maybe you should wait until you see what poor replaced Adam is doing next. (hint: it's not what a company does with an employee they are upset with or replacing). On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Adam, insulting people that try to support/defend you and Adobe is certainly not very smart, and I suspect is one of the reasons you are being replaced. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342308 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Application.cfc execution order
Sounds like either a) and error is occurring in onApplicationStart() or b) you didn;t reinitialize your app and onApplicationStart isn;t running since the app already exists. nic On 2/11/11 3:49 PM, Mike P mike...@optonline.net wrote: I recently modified my Application.cfc to email all errors for debugging. While sending the error, I referenced some email settings I saved in the application scope. It was my understanding that OnApplicationStart() fired before anything else, but it looks like ColdFusion is trying to parse OnError() first. Since the application variables are set in the OnApplicationStart() function, my app errors out. Is this the order the functions are supposed to execute in or should I be looking for something else that might be wrong? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342151 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
You would almost have to set up a hierarchy in a dynamically typed language. If you didn't and had an overloaded method, one expecting string and one expecting numeric, and passed in 1.92, which method would it call? Nicholas M. Tunney Blog: http://www.nictunney.com Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer Adobe Certified Instructor Adobe Community Expert Eric Roberts wrote: Why can't you have overloading in a dynamically typed language? Overloading isn't just sending over an argument with a different type...it is also sending over different numbers of arguments. If I remember correctly from my C days, you can overload in C...so I would agree that these have nothing to do with OO. Eric -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? On 7/9/07, Steve Brownlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Overloading - Generics - Method overriding - Static methods - And most importantly, it's not typed (i.e. you can't cast a Sphere CFC as a Ball CFC, among a myriad of other possibilities) None of these has the slightest thing to do with OO. Lots of OO languages out there do not have any of these features! This is exactly my point: you're blinded by Java. Generics in particular are ANTI-OO. Generic programming is completely orthogonal to OO. Read some of the literature. Read about the STL in C++. You CANNOT have overloading in a dynamically typed language. ColdFusion already has method overriding. Static methods have nothing to do with OO (they are in fact more procedural than OO). Casting types has nothing to do with OO - in a dynamic language, you don't NEED casts - the objects already behave the right way. ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283438 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Coldfusion service crashing and unable to restart
_13 is supported now as well. I've not run it, but have run _12 with great success. Nicholas M. Tunney Blog: http://www.nictunney.com Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer Adobe Certified Instructor Adobe Community Expert Dave Watts wrote: Hi. We're running CF MX 7.0.2.142559 on a Win2003 server and we're having the following problem: Coldfusion is periodically crashing (leaving our users with a Could not connect to jrun server error) and the only way to restart it is to restart the machine. When we try to restart the application service it is unable to restart. When I try to restart it from the command line with cfstart, I get this error: # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc005) at pc=0x080cacc2, pid=3692, tid=3932 # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (1.4.2_09-b05 mixed mode) # Problematic frame: # V [jvm.dll+0xcacc2] I recommend that you upgrade your JVM to the latest supported version: 1.4.2_11 or _13, I forget which. In fact, I would go for _13 even if it's not officially supported. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283299 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: RecordCount and Sub(?) Counts?
Actually, I would try to stay away from count(*) IMO. Count an actual field. Nicholas M. Tunney Blog: http://www.nictunney.com Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer Adobe Certified Instructor Adobe Community Expert Dawson, Michael wrote: SELECT color ,COUNT(*) AS colorCount FROM ShoeTable GROUP BY color M!ke -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RecordCount and Sub(?) Counts? I can think of all kinds of evil use a loop and stuff to do this, but what's a more compact way, or is there one? Stupid Example - a query that returns shoes 100 total shoes returned (shoeQUERY.recordcount) How can I get the query to also tell me there's 45 red shoes, 15 blue shoes and 40 green shoes without doing dome kind of loop with a counter outside the query? Or can you? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281874 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
