CFGrid and CSS collisions.
Is there a way you can wrap a cfgrid or protect it from getting it's css overridden? I'm working on reskinning a legacy application and we're trying to minimize the impact of this new design that has essentially hosed everything. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359926 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Calling Charlie Arehart, you are being paged :-) All CFMeetups are recorded for posterity, and while seemingly inactive, Charlie is always open to folks presenting. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Nathan Strutz str...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it's recorded anywhere, but if you want me to give it somewhere, let me know. ;) nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [about.me/nathanstrutz] On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: Surprised I haven't seen info on Nathan Strutz's CF+LESS talk here: https://github.com/NathanStrutz/Write-LESS-CSS-Presentation-Material I know he's given this talk a few times; unsure if there's a recording anywhere. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Roger Austin raust...@nc.rr.com wrote: On 9/10/2013 2:05 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way it can create dynamic HTML. It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be changed. For instance, in my CMS I have a styles editor with all parameters stored in a database. It can also create 100% dynamic CSS, like in LINK HREF=myStyles.cfm... although in that case CSS files cannot be cached on client side, but I suppose it will be the same with LESS files. The LESS files are processed to get your CSS files. LESS=source; CSS=compiled. Probably a bad analogy. :) -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek Blog: http://rogerthegeek.wordpress.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356801 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Thanks for the info, Cutter... Are you currently using LESS? If so, what are your thoughts about its usefulness? -Original Message- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? You compile LESS down to css files, you don't serve it up to the browser. I like cfstatic for asset management. It can also compile LESS on the fly. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/7/2013 1:53 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Nevermind... I figured out I need to set a mime type for .less and then set that type to text/css. In other words: Extention: less Mime Type: text/css Rick -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 2:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? Hi, all... Anyone using LESS with their CSS? I'm trying to get a handle on using LESS with my CSS, but I'm not quite getting it to work. I'm including the styles.less and the less.js files, but I'm missing something, because the variables don't affect the output. Do I need some kind of compiler for this to work with CF? Thanks for the guidance! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356731 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
As a heavy Bootstrap user, I use LESS constantly. Once you really dig in, you find out quickly just how useful it truly is. Tech like LESS and SASS are perfect for those creating skinned applications. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/10/2013 6:34 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Thanks for the info, Cutter... Are you currently using LESS? If so, what are your thoughts about its usefulness? -Original Message- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? You compile LESS down to css files, you don't serve it up to the browser. I like cfstatic for asset management. It can also compile LESS on the fly. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/7/2013 1:53 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Nevermind... I figured out I need to set a mime type for .less and then set that type to text/css. In other words: Extention: less Mime Type: text/css Rick -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 2:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? Hi, all... Anyone using LESS with their CSS? I'm trying to get a handle on using LESS with my CSS, but I'm not quite getting it to work. I'm including the styles.less and the less.js files, but I'm missing something, because the variables don't affect the output. Do I need some kind of compiler for this to work with CF? Thanks for the guidance! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356732 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
I'm just now looking seriously into LESS and its usage. So far, I've really only looked at its use of variables. As far as variables are concerned, I don't see much difference between using variables and classes. I can define, say, a class this way in CSS: .titleColor { color: blue } and use it this way: p class=titleColor or define this way with LESS: @titleColor { color: blue } .titleColor { color: @titleColor } and use it this way: p class=titleColor Seems like LESS is more in this case and of insignificant benefit. Am I missing the point and best use of variables? Thanks for the feedback! Rick -Original Message- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:58 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? As a heavy Bootstrap user, I use LESS constantly. Once you really dig in, you find out quickly just how useful it truly is. Tech like LESS and SASS are perfect for those creating skinned applications. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/10/2013 6:34 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Thanks for the info, Cutter... Are you currently using LESS? If so, what are your thoughts about its usefulness? -Original Message- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? You compile LESS down to css files, you don't serve it up to the browser. I like cfstatic for asset management. It can also compile LESS on the fly. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/7/2013 1:53 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Nevermind... I figured out I need to set a mime type for .less and then set that type to text/css. In other words: Extention: less Mime Type: text/css Rick -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 2:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? Hi, all... Anyone using LESS with their CSS? I'm trying to get a handle on using LESS with my CSS, but I'm not quite getting it to work. I'm including the styles.less and the less.js files, but I'm missing something, because the variables don't affect the output. Do I need some kind of compiler for this to work with CF? Thanks for the guidance! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356733 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Rick, this short article may be of help... http://davidwalsh.name/starting-css?utm_source=CSS-Weeklyutm_campaign=Issue -75utm_medium=email -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:59 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? I'm just now looking seriously into LESS and its usage. So far, I've really only looked at its use of variables. As far as variables are concerned, I don't see much difference between using variables and classes. I can define, say, a class this way in CSS: .titleColor { color: blue } and use it this way: p class=titleColor or define this way with LESS: @titleColor { color: blue } .titleColor { color: @titleColor } and use it this way: p class=titleColor Seems like LESS is more in this case and of insignificant benefit. Am I missing the point and best use of variables? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356734 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Variables are on small advantage. It's nice to be able to set a variable for a color, for instance, and reuse it in several hundred locations, in a variety of scenarios, without having to apply a separate class to thousands of lines of code throughout an application. If the color changes, the variable changes, it updates all of the other style declarations automatically, BAM! Mixins are where the power truly shines through. The ability to write little functions, to dynamically create declarations based upon variables and conditions. That's very powerful. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/10/2013 7:58 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: I'm just now looking seriously into LESS and its usage. So far, I've really only looked at its use of variables. As far as variables are concerned, I don't see much difference between using variables and classes. I can define, say, a class this way in CSS: .titleColor { color: blue } and use it this way: p class=titleColor or define this way with LESS: @titleColor { color: blue } .titleColor { color: @titleColor } and use it this way: p class=titleColor Seems like LESS is more in this case and of insignificant benefit. Am I missing the point and best use of variables? Thanks for the feedback! Rick -Original Message- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:58 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? As a heavy Bootstrap user, I use LESS constantly. Once you really dig in, you find out quickly just how useful it truly is. Tech like LESS and SASS are perfect for those creating skinned applications. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/10/2013 6:34 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Thanks for the info, Cutter... Are you currently using LESS? If so, what are your thoughts about its usefulness? -Original Message- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? You compile LESS down to css files, you don't serve it up to the browser. I like cfstatic for asset management. It can also compile LESS on the fly. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/7/2013 1:53 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Nevermind... I figured out I need to set a mime type for .less and then set that type to text/css. In other words: Extention: less Mime Type: text/css Rick -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 2:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? Hi, all... Anyone using LESS with their CSS? I'm trying to get a handle on using LESS with my CSS, but I'm not quite getting it to work. I'm including the styles.less and the less.js files, but I'm missing something, because the variables don't affect the output. Do I need some kind of compiler for this to work with CF? Thanks for the guidance! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356735 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Apparently, this looks like a CSS prepocessor. But I do not see anything that cannot be done with CF. So what is the advantage of using yet another technology? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356737 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
You're right, you could do something like this with CF. But why rewrite the wheel when documented frameworks already exist that can do it for you? Now, if you need something that one of these frameworks can not accomplish for you... Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/10/2013 10:56 AM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: Apparently, this looks like a CSS prepocessor. But I do not see anything that cannot be done with CF. So what is the advantage of using yet another technology? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356739 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:57 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? Apparently, this looks like a CSS prepocessor. But I do not see anything that cannot be done with CF. So what is the advantage of using yet another technology? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356740 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
But why rewrite the wheel when documented frameworks already exist Learning another language to do what can be done as easily by the language I've been using for years looks like reinventing the wheel to me. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356745 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Maybe you can save everyone the trouble and write the CFLESS equivelant, a la CFWheels;) Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/10/2013 11:41 AM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: But why rewrite the wheel when documented frameworks already exist Learning another language to do what can be done as easily by the language I've been using for years looks like reinventing the wheel to me. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356747 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Thanks, Cutter... I read the article you referenced and it did clarify some things, but, being an overview of many different approaches and frameworks to utilizing CSS, it opened up a large can of worms! I'm going to check out the BEM approach, first, just as a starting point. Re: your comments Variables seem to be the same as a class, to me. I can set a variable in one place in LESS and change the CSS by changing the variable. But the exact same effect seems to take place if I create a class, assign it to elements, then change the class. In that limited usage, a variable seems no different than a class. One change, many affected elements. I'll have to study more to understand your comment about variables and conditions, especially the conditions part. I don't think I've read about conditions, yet. But one question I need clarification concerning: if I don't use LESS, and work with a naming convention, such as BEM, can a pre-processor still be used with that to compile several stylesheets into a single stylesheet? Or do pre-processors work with only certains frameworks, like LESS or SASS? Rick -Original Message- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:00 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? Variables are on small advantage. It's nice to be able to set a variable for a color, for instance, and reuse it in several hundred locations, in a variety of scenarios, without having to apply a separate class to thousands of lines of code throughout an application. If the color changes, the variable changes, it updates all of the other style declarations automatically, BAM! Mixins are where the power truly shines through. The ability to write little functions, to dynamically create declarations based upon variables and conditions. That's very powerful. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/10/2013 7:58 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: I'm just now looking seriously into LESS and its usage. So far, I've really only looked at its use of variables. As far as variables are concerned, I don't see much difference between using variables and classes. I can define, say, a class this way in CSS: .titleColor { color: blue } and use it this way: p class=titleColor or define this way with LESS: @titleColor { color: blue } .titleColor { color: @titleColor } and use it this way: p class=titleColor Seems like LESS is more in this case and of insignificant benefit. Am I missing the point and best use of variables? Thanks for the feedback! Rick -Original Message- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:58 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? As a heavy Bootstrap user, I use LESS constantly. Once you really dig in, you find out quickly just how useful it truly is. Tech like LESS and SASS are perfect for those creating skinned applications. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/10/2013 6:34 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Thanks for the info, Cutter... Are you currently using LESS? If so, what are your thoughts about its usefulness? -Original Message- From: Steve 'Cutter' Blades [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? You compile LESS down to css files, you don't serve it up to the browser. I like cfstatic for asset management. It can also compile LESS on the fly. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/7/2013 1:53 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Nevermind... I figured out I need to set a mime type for .less and then set that type to text/css. In other words: Extention: less Mime Type: text/css Rick -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 2:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way it can create dynamic HTML. It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be changed. For instance, in my CMS I have a styles editor with all parameters stored in a database. It can also create 100% dynamic CSS, like in LINK HREF=myStyles.cfm... although in that case CSS files cannot be cached on client side, but I suppose it will be the same with LESS files. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356748 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
LESS (and SASS/SCSS) are common, widely used CSS preprocessors. Frameworks like Bootstrap come with LESS files. I could also write my own database use XML files and CF's XML/struct/array capabilities, but that would be quite ridiculous. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com wrote: Apparently, this looks like a CSS prepocessor. But I do not see anything that cannot be done with CF. So what is the advantage of using yet another technology? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356756 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
t why rewrite the wheel when documented frameworks already exist Learning another language to do what can be done as easily by the language I've been using for years looks like reinventing the wheel to me. That's the advantage of Less (and SASS too for that matter) - you dont learn any new syntax. It uses CSS syntax to do nearly everything. I was thinking about how I could write my own preprocessor because I have a CMS that i customise by changing colours mostly, and i was thinking about how I could have a settings table or something and use CFFILE to output a stylesheet when I heard about LESS and to my delight - there it was! The very thing I was planning to write, was already written!And it took me about 10 minutes to learn what I needed to learn to use it. The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/10/2013 10:56 AM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: Apparently, this looks like a CSS prepocessor. But I do not see anything that cannot be done with CF. So what is the advantage of using yet another technology? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356759 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
I don't think it's recorded anywhere, but if you want me to give it somewhere, let me know. ;) nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [about.me/nathanstrutz] On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com wrote: Surprised I haven't seen info on Nathan Strutz's CF+LESS talk here: https://github.com/NathanStrutz/Write-LESS-CSS-Presentation-Material I know he's given this talk a few times; unsure if there's a recording anywhere. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Roger Austin raust...@nc.rr.com wrote: On 9/10/2013 2:05 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way it can create dynamic HTML. It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be changed. For instance, in my CMS I have a styles editor with all parameters stored in a database. It can also create 100% dynamic CSS, like in LINK HREF=myStyles.cfm... although in that case CSS files cannot be cached on client side, but I suppose it will be the same with LESS files. The LESS files are processed to get your CSS files. LESS=source; CSS=compiled. Probably a bad analogy. :) -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek Blog: http://rogerthegeek.wordpress.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356758 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Surprised I haven't seen info on Nathan Strutz's CF+LESS talk here: https://github.com/NathanStrutz/Write-LESS-CSS-Presentation-Material I know he's given this talk a few times; unsure if there's a recording anywhere. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Roger Austin raust...@nc.rr.com wrote: On 9/10/2013 2:05 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way it can create dynamic HTML. It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be changed. For instance, in my CMS I have a styles editor with all parameters stored in a database. It can also create 100% dynamic CSS, like in LINK HREF=myStyles.cfm... although in that case CSS files cannot be cached on client side, but I suppose it will be the same with LESS files. The LESS files are processed to get your CSS files. LESS=source; CSS=compiled. Probably a bad analogy. :) -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek Blog: http://rogerthegeek.wordpress.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356757 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
On 9/10/2013 2:05 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: How would you perform CSS pre-processing with CF? Well, if the job is just to create dynamic CSS, CF can do the same way it can create dynamic HTML. It can either create static .CSS files whenever styles muste be changed. For instance, in my CMS I have a styles editor with all parameters stored in a database. It can also create 100% dynamic CSS, like in LINK HREF=myStyles.cfm... although in that case CSS files cannot be cached on client side, but I suppose it will be the same with LESS files. The LESS files are processed to get your CSS files. LESS=source; CSS=compiled. Probably a bad analogy. :) -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek Blog: http://rogerthegeek.wordpress.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356750 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Rick, CFSTATIC (https://github.com/DominicWatson/cfstatic) will combine and minify both standard CSS and JS files as well as work with LESS file. I've used it in a number of projects and it works great. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: But one question I need clarification concerning: if I don't use LESS, and work with a naming convention, such as BEM, can a pre-processor still be used with that to compile several stylesheets into a single stylesheet? Or do pre-processors work with only certains frameworks, like LESS or SASS? Rick -- --- Dean M. Lawrence INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701 w // www.idatatech.com f // www.facebook.com/idatatech t // www.twitter.com/idatatech Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356760 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
You compile LESS down to css files, you don't serve it up to the browser. I like cfstatic for asset management. It can also compile LESS on the fly. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 9/7/2013 1:53 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Nevermind... I figured out I need to set a mime type for .less and then set that type to text/css. In other words: Extention: less Mime Type: text/css Rick -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 2:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? Hi, all... Anyone using LESS with their CSS? I'm trying to get a handle on using LESS with my CSS, but I'm not quite getting it to work. I'm including the styles.less and the less.js files, but I'm missing something, because the variables don't affect the output. Do I need some kind of compiler for this to work with CF? Thanks for the guidance! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356730 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Hi, all... Anyone using LESS with their CSS? I'm trying to get a handle on using LESS with my CSS, but I'm not quite getting it to work. I'm including the styles.less and the less.js files, but I'm missing something, because the variables don't affect the output. Do I need some kind of compiler for this to work with CF? Thanks for the guidance! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356727 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF?
Nevermind... I figured out I need to set a mime type for .less and then set that type to text/css. In other words: Extention: less Mime Type: text/css Rick -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 2:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Best way to use LESS CSS with CF? Hi, all... Anyone using LESS with their CSS? I'm trying to get a handle on using LESS with my CSS, but I'm not quite getting it to work. I'm including the styles.less and the less.js files, but I'm missing something, because the variables don't affect the output. Do I need some kind of compiler for this to work with CF? Thanks for the guidance! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356728 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
I teach web design, web programming (JavaScript, some JS libraries, SQL, and CF), and computer science at a public high school that has zero budget for software for my classes. We have a license for Homesite, but it doesn't play well with our environment and is no longer worth the hassle. I've tried Aptana, but feel that it's too complex for teaching beginners web design. What's more, I really don't like the requirement that Eclipse-based editors have for working in a project paradigm on web files. I use Netbeans for CompSci, which IS project-oriented, but that makes a lot more sense given the language. So, what are the free (as in, free) options out there that support HTML/CSS/JS/CF that are at least reasonably user-friendly? Thanks, Pete ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355362 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
Sublime Text 2 with the CF plugin and the enhanced CFML/HTML plugin Adobe should open source homesite ;) On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.comwrote: I teach web design, web programming (JavaScript, some JS libraries, SQL, and CF), and computer science at a public high school that has zero budget for software for my classes. We have a license for Homesite, but it doesn't play well with our environment and is no longer worth the hassle. I've tried Aptana, but feel that it's too complex for teaching beginners web design. What's more, I really don't like the requirement that Eclipse-based editors have for working in a project paradigm on web files. I use Netbeans for CompSci, which IS project-oriented, but that makes a lot more sense given the language. So, what are the free (as in, free) options out there that support HTML/CSS/JS/CF that are at least reasonably user-friendly? Thanks, Pete ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355364 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
Sublime Text 2 doesn't meet the FREE requirement, though I'm enjoying my licensed version more and more! +1 on open sourcing homesite! -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:rick.r...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:16 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor? Sublime Text 2 with the CF plugin and the enhanced CFML/HTML plugin Adobe should open source homesite ;) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355365 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
It does have an unlimited trial period ;) I purchased a license myself too. Maybe Notepad++ with the CFML plugin... Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355367 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
here is a big list of editors http://carehart.org/cf411/#editcf On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.comwrote: I teach web design, web programming (JavaScript, some JS libraries, SQL, and CF), and computer science at a public high school that has zero budget for software for my classes. We have a license for Homesite, but it doesn't play well with our environment and is no longer worth the hassle. I've tried Aptana, but feel that it's too complex for teaching beginners web design. What's more, I really don't like the requirement that Eclipse-based editors have for working in a project paradigm on web files. I use Netbeans for CompSci, which IS project-oriented, but that makes a lot more sense given the language. So, what are the free (as in, free) options out there that support HTML/CSS/JS/CF that are at least reasonably user-friendly? Thanks, Pete ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355368 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
CFBuilder 2 has a free edition. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: here is a big list of editors http://carehart.org/cf411/#editcf On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I teach web design, web programming (JavaScript, some JS libraries, SQL, and CF), and computer science at a public high school that has zero budget for software for my classes. We have a license for Homesite, but it doesn't play well with our environment and is no longer worth the hassle. I've tried Aptana, but feel that it's too complex for teaching beginners web design. What's more, I really don't like the requirement that Eclipse-based editors have for working in a project paradigm on web files. I use Netbeans for CompSci, which IS project-oriented, but that makes a lot more sense given the language. So, what are the free (as in, free) options out there that support HTML/CSS/JS/CF that are at least reasonably user-friendly? Thanks, Pete ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355369 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
I taught an introduction to Web Programming college course for several years using CFEclipse with Adobe ColdFusion. In the very first class I gave them a good overview of using Eclipse on an overhead projector. I walked them through the project creation process and showed them where their files ended up on their local machines. I don't recall any incidents where students had difficulty using the editor. The main problems I had were students simply not understanding how to implement programming concepts in a practical way and students not finishing the projects that they started. Is CF going to be it's own course or are you mixing in CSS, JS, and SQL in with it? In my class I taught simple SQL and CF, and it was hard to squeeze everything in to a single quarter. Warm Regards, Jordan Michaels On 04/11/2013 10:12 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote: I teach web design, web programming (JavaScript, some JS libraries, SQL, and CF), and computer science at a public high school that has zero budget for software for my classes. We have a license for Homesite, but it doesn't play well with our environment and is no longer worth the hassle. I've tried Aptana, but feel that it's too complex for teaching beginners web design. What's more, I really don't like the requirement that Eclipse-based editors have for working in a project paradigm on web files. I use Netbeans for CompSci, which IS project-oriented, but that makes a lot more sense given the language. So, what are the free (as in, free) options out there that support HTML/CSS/JS/CF that are at least reasonably user-friendly? Thanks, Pete ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355370 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
I wasn't able to find it on the Adobe web site. Do you have a link? On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote: CFBuilder 2 has a free edition. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355381 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
Adobe should open source homesite This! 10+ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355383 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
It is the same as the regular version. After 60 days it turns into the feature limited free version. More details here: http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html HTH G! On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.comwrote: I wasn't able to find it on the Adobe web site. Do you have a link? On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: CFBuilder 2 has a free edition. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355384 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Zero budget, student-friendly CF/HTML/CSS editor?
Adobe should open source homesite ;) There aren't too many Delphi developers around. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355387 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
SOT: Graphic Artist Software for HTML CSS
I have not kept track of all the graphic artist software adobe has come out with to go from mockups to HTML/CSS. If I were to tell a graphic designer to design me some mockups for a web site, what is the best adobe software that will export out to _CLEAN_ (looks like hand written J) HTML/CSS that I can inject my CF code easily into? Muse? Thanks! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354629 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Graphic Artist Software for HTML CSS
In the past I have used Photoshop's Slice tool. It does a fairly decent job but I have always had to go in and massage it by hand. It does not by any means leave you with finished product out of the box but it takes care of a lions share of the grunt work. HTH G! On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Chad Gray cg...@careyweb.com wrote: I have not kept track of all the graphic artist software adobe has come out with to go from mockups to HTML/CSS. If I were to tell a graphic designer to design me some mockups for a web site, what is the best adobe software that will export out to _CLEAN_ (looks like hand written J) HTML/CSS that I can inject my CF code easily into? Muse? Thanks! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354632 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Graphic Artist Software for HTML CSS
Fireworks does a good job as well. Sent from my iPhone 4S. On Feb 22, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: In the past I have used Photoshop's Slice tool. It does a fairly decent job but I have always had to go in and massage it by hand. It does not by any means leave you with finished product out of the box but it takes care of a lions share of the grunt work. HTH G! On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Chad Gray cg...@careyweb.com wrote: I have not kept track of all the graphic artist software adobe has come out with to go from mockups to HTML/CSS. If I were to tell a graphic designer to design me some mockups for a web site, what is the best adobe software that will export out to _CLEAN_ (looks like hand written J) HTML/CSS that I can inject my CF code easily into? Muse? Thanks! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354633 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Graphic Artist Software for HTML CSS
In the beginning, I actually sliced designs. When I did, I used Image Ready. It was much better suited for the slicing part than Photoshop. On 2/22/13 12:04 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: In the past I have used Photoshop's Slice tool. It does a fairly decent job but I have always had to go in and massage it by hand. It does not by any means leave you with finished product out of the box but it takes care of a lions share of the grunt work. HTH G! On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Chad Gray cg...@careyweb.com wrote: I have not kept track of all the graphic artist software adobe has come out with to go from mockups to HTML/CSS. If I were to tell a graphic designer to design me some mockups for a web site, what is the best adobe software that will export out to _CLEAN_ (looks like hand written J) HTML/CSS that I can inject my CF code easily into? Muse? Thanks! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354640 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Graphic Artist Software for HTML CSS
I have been messing around with Fireworks CS6 and it does a really good job of slicing pages. I never really messed with Photoshop though so I cannot compare them. On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Bobby bo...@acoderslife.com wrote: In the beginning, I actually sliced designs. When I did, I used Image Ready. It was much better suited for the slicing part than Photoshop. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354642 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Graphic Artist Software for HTML CSS
Photoshop is very powerful for all aspects of image creation and manipulation, but there is absolutely nothing intuitive about the interface. It was the hardest software for me to learn in all my years in the industry. Fortunately, I have a son who is a PS expert, so I can call him when I get in over my head. Fireworks is much easier to learn and use and works well for web stuff. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote: I have been messing around with Fireworks CS6 and it does a really good job of slicing pages. I never really messed with Photoshop though so I cannot compare them. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354645 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CSS Conditionals Question
I know how to call/import different CSS files using statements like this: !--[if lte IE 7] My question is: within a single CSS file, is it possible to have conditonal CSS statements? I'm looking for a solution that doesn't require CF, PHP, or ASP. Thanks, Che ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346689 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CSS Conditionals Question
I am aware of one technique that internet explorer employs in order to achieve something like what you are looking for, but this doesn't help you for other browsers. You alsmost have to have some logic and then include different css files if you really want something extravagant. Check out this blog, rule #2: http://webdesignerwall.com/tutorials/css-specific-for-internet-explorer - *IE8 or below*: to write CSS rules specificially to IE8 or below, add a backslash and 9 (\9) at the end before the semicolon. - *IE7 or below*: add an asterisk (*) before the CSS property. - *IE6*: add an underscore (_) before the property. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Che Vilnonis ch...@asitv.com wrote: I know how to call/import different CSS files using statements like this: !--[if lte IE 7] My question is: within a single CSS file, is it possible to have conditonal CSS statements? I'm looking for a solution that doesn't require CF, PHP, or ASP. Thanks, Che ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346692 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CSS Conditionals Question
On 8/11/2011 10:15 AM, Che Vilnonis wrote: I know how to call/import different CSS files using statements like this: !--[if lte IE 7] I've been avoiding hacks if possible myself. Microsoft tends to break them with each new release. I've started using a conditional in the body of my files. It's been working rather well... !--[if IE] div id=IEroot ![endif]-- p id=myParaStyleEverything goes here/p !--[if IE] /div ![endif]-- In my CSS #myParaStyle { ... stuff for most } #IEroot #myParaStyle { ...stuff just for IE } ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346694 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CSS Conditionals Question
Dan/Les thanks. I was aware of the other methods and was hoping I could have conditional logic in one CSS file. IE really is a PITA! -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:lesm...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:59 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CSS Conditionals Question I've been avoiding hacks if possible myself. Microsoft tends to break them with each new release. I've started using a conditional in the body of my files. It's been working rather well... !--[if IE] div id=IEroot ![endif]-- p id=myParaStyleEverything goes here/p !--[if IE] /div ![endif]-- In my CSS #myParaStyle { ... stuff for most } #IEroot #myParaStyle { ...stuff just for IE } ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346696 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
cfinput type=datefield won't follow my CSS rules
I'm having a problem where my cfinputs that have type datefield are completely ignoring my CSS. Attached is a screenshot of what is happening; you'll see that my normal cfinputs (name, email, etc...) all follow my CSS just fine, but the cfinputs that use type datefield just ignore it completely (even though the container still show up, the cfinputs are not in them). Ken ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345025 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfinput type=datefield won't follow my CSS rules
Sorry, forgot can't do attachments, here is a link to the image: http://postimage.org/image/1hk51i4mc/ -Original Message- From: Ken Hammond khamm...@saleminc.com To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:55:04 -0500 Subject: cfinput type=datefield won't follow my CSS rules I'm having a problem where my cfinputs that have type datefield are completely ignoring my CSS. Attached is a screenshot of what is happening; you'll see that my normal cfinputs (name, email, etc...) all follow my CSS just fine, but the cfinputs that use type datefield just ignore it completely (even though the container still show up, the cfinputs are not in them). Ken ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345026 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfinput type=datefield won't follow my CSS rules
The datefield type is applying floats to the elements it creates, 'removing' them from their containers. I don't have an example of a fix, but that bit of info will hopefully point you at a solution. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345030 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfinput type=datefield won't follow my CSS rules
I've made it a little further by adding a div around each cfinput datefield and putting the style clear:both; New image: http://postimage.org/image/2umskf4hw/ At least now the labels are in the boxes. -Original Message- From: morgan l greyk...@gmail.com To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:07:28 -0500 Subject: Re: cfinput type=datefield won't follow my CSS rules The datefield type is applying floats to the elements it creates, 'removing' them from their containers. I don't have an example of a fix, but that bit of info will hopefully point you at a solution. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345035 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfinput type=datefield won't follow my CSS rules
Ok, I got it to work but not the way I really want to do it... Under my LI, I used a table with cell, spacing and borders set to 0, put the label in the first td and the div containing the cfinput type datafield inside the second td then closed it all. Turns out just like I wanted, all be it messy lol. Now the problem I am having is in IE7; the calendar is popping under the field below it. From what I am reading, this is a z-index issue and I have to set a z-index on each of my fields or something (not entirely sure how to do it...). Anyone have any idea on this one? It is only in IE; IE8, Safari and Firefox work fine. Image of working form: http://postimage.org/image/1m31h6rqc/ Image of calendar bleed problem in IE7: http://postimage.org/image/1m34s9gpw/ Thanks! Ken -Original Message- From: Ken Hammond khamm...@saleminc.com To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:19:15 -0500 Subject: Re: cfinput type=datefield won't follow my CSS rules I've made it a little further by adding a div around each cfinput datefield and putting the style clear:both; New image: http://postimage.org/image/2umskf4hw/ At least now the labels are in the boxes. -Original Message- From: morgan l greyk...@gmail.com To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 13:07:28 -0500 Subject: Re: cfinput type=datefield won't follow my CSS rules The datefield type is applying floats to the elements it creates, 'removing' them from their containers. I don't have an example of a fix, but that bit of info will hopefully point you at a solution. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345045 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Finding a Designer/CSS with CF - Where?
Post to cf-j...@houseoffusion.com cf-jobs-talk is more for discussing the marketplace and career topics. cf-jobs is for job listings / availability -Matt W On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Paul Giesenhagen p...@quilldesign.com wrote: Hello All, We are looking to add another designer, CSS person - someone with strong CSS / JQuery - knowing CF would be a plus - but not a requirement though they have to work within CF to do their design / css / jquery work. Can someone let me know the best places to advertise for these positions? It's for a part-time position that could end up being full time sooner than later. Thanks for any info. Paul Giesenhagen Quill Design http://www.quilldesign.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4477 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Finding a Designer/CSS with CF - Where?
Right .. that is why I asked it here cf-jobs-talk .. I was looking for a good place to find a CSS/Designer as opposed to a CF person ... figured my CF folks may have some suggestions. Thanks Paul Giesenhagen Quill Design http://www.quilldesign.com -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:mgw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:12 AM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: Finding a Designer/CSS with CF - Where? Post to cf-j...@houseoffusion.com cf-jobs-talk is more for discussing the marketplace and career topics. cf-jobs is for job listings / availability -Matt W On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Paul Giesenhagen p...@quilldesign.com wrote: Hello All, We are looking to add another designer, CSS person - someone with strong CSS / JQuery - knowing CF would be a plus - but not a requirement though they have to work within CF to do their design / css / jquery work. Can someone let me know the best places to advertise for these positions? It's for a part-time position that could end up being full time sooner than later. Thanks for any info. Paul Giesenhagen Quill Design http://www.quilldesign.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4478 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Finding a Designer/CSS with CF - Where?
Got it. Even if it is not a hard-core CF position, cf-jobs is probably a pretty good place to advertise. Otherwise try some adobe groups? On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Paul Giesenhagen p...@quilldesign.com wrote: Right .. that is why I asked it here cf-jobs-talk .. I was looking for a good place to find a CSS/Designer as opposed to a CF person ... figured my CF folks may have some suggestions. Thanks Paul Giesenhagen Quill Design http://www.quilldesign.com -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:mgw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:12 AM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: Finding a Designer/CSS with CF - Where? Post to cf-j...@houseoffusion.com cf-jobs-talk is more for discussing the marketplace and career topics. cf-jobs is for job listings / availability -Matt W On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Paul Giesenhagen p...@quilldesign.com wrote: Hello All, We are looking to add another designer, CSS person - someone with strong CSS / JQuery - knowing CF would be a plus - but not a requirement though they have to work within CF to do their design / css / jquery work. Can someone let me know the best places to advertise for these positions? It's for a part-time position that could end up being full time sooner than later. Thanks for any info. Paul Giesenhagen Quill Design http://www.quilldesign.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4479 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Parsing .css files with CF
So, is setting up IIS to cause CF to parse CSS files still the best way to accomplish using variables in CSS files? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343717 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Parsing .css files with CF
Nah. Just use .cfm and cfcontent to set the type of the .cfm to .css and then you can actually call the .cfm where you'd usually call your .css file in HTML. I promise it's easier done than said. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So, is setting up IIS to cause CF to parse CSS files still the best way to accomplish using variables in CSS files? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343718 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Parsing .css files with CF
So just use: style.cfm - cfcontent type=text/css charset=ISO-8859-1 cfset variables.color = ##fff cfoutput body { color:#variables.color#; } /cfoutput Then in calling doc: link rel=stylesheet href=style.cfm text=text/css / ??? Also, I got the charset=ISO-8859-1 from an example. Is that necessary or important, and why? -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:05 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Nah. Just use .cfm and cfcontent to set the type of the .cfm to .css and then you can actually call the .cfm where you'd usually call your .css file in HTML. I promise it's easier done than said. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So, is setting up IIS to cause CF to parse CSS files still the best way to accomplish using variables in CSS files? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343721 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Parsing .css files with CF
On 4/14/2011 9:21 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: So just use: style.cfm - cfcontent type=text/css charset=ISO-8859-1 cfset variables.color = ##fff cfoutput body { color:#variables.color#; } /cfoutput Pretty Close. You only need to double the ## symbols, if the content is INSIDE a cfoutput block. As you start the cfoutpout block on the next line, you do not need to double ## where you have them. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343722 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Parsing .css files with CF
You'll probably want to define the charset to match whatever you're using in your HTML. I *think* CF defaults to UTF-8. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So just use: style.cfm - cfcontent type=text/css charset=ISO-8859-1 cfset variables.color = ##fff cfoutput body { color:#variables.color#; } /cfoutput Then in calling doc: link rel=stylesheet href=style.cfm text=text/css / ??? Also, I got the charset=ISO-8859-1 from an example. Is that necessary or important, and why? -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:05 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Nah. Just use .cfm and cfcontent to set the type of the .cfm to .css and then you can actually call the .cfm where you'd usually call your .css file in HTML. I promise it's easier done than said. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So, is setting up IIS to cause CF to parse CSS files still the best way to accomplish using variables in CSS files? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343723 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Parsing .css files with CF
Good catch, Ian... -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:27 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF On 4/14/2011 9:21 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: So just use: style.cfm - cfcontent type=text/css charset=ISO-8859-1 cfset variables.color = ##fff cfoutput body { color:#variables.color#; } /cfoutput Pretty Close. You only need to double the ## symbols, if the content is INSIDE a cfoutput block. As you start the cfoutpout block on the next line, you do not need to double ## where you have them. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343724 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Parsing .css files with CF
so, cfcontent type=text/css charset=UTF-8 ? -Original Message- From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:29 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF You'll probably want to define the charset to match whatever you're using in your HTML. I *think* CF defaults to UTF-8. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So just use: style.cfm - cfcontent type=text/css charset=ISO-8859-1 cfset variables.color = ##fff cfoutput body { color:#variables.color#; } /cfoutput Then in calling doc: link rel=stylesheet href=style.cfm text=text/css / ??? Also, I got the charset=ISO-8859-1 from an example. Is that necessary or important, and why? -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:05 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Nah. Just use .cfm and cfcontent to set the type of the .cfm to .css and then you can actually call the .cfm where you'd usually call your .css file in HTML. I promise it's easier done than said. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So, is setting up IIS to cause CF to parse CSS files still the best way to accomplish using variables in CSS files? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343725 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Parsing .css files with CF
Check the header info on the site in question. Match the charset to whatever that is. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: so, cfcontent type=text/css charset=UTF-8 ? -Original Message- From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:29 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF You'll probably want to define the charset to match whatever you're using in your HTML. I *think* CF defaults to UTF-8. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So just use: style.cfm - cfcontent type=text/css charset=ISO-8859-1 cfset variables.color = ##fff cfoutput body { color:#variables.color#; } /cfoutput Then in calling doc: link rel=stylesheet href=style.cfm text=text/css / ??? Also, I got the charset=ISO-8859-1 from an example. Is that necessary or important, and why? -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:05 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Nah. Just use .cfm and cfcontent to set the type of the .cfm to .css and then you can actually call the .cfm where you'd usually call your .css file in HTML. I promise it's easier done than said. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So, is setting up IIS to cause CF to parse CSS files still the best way to accomplish using variables in CSS files? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343726 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Parsing .css files with CF
Hmmm... I keep getting the feedback from firebug that there are no rules for this stylesheet... On the index.cfm, I have: meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8 / link type=text/css rel=stylesheet href=styles/bigPhoto/css/bigPhoto.css.cfm / On bigPhoto_ThomasHill.css.cfm (an include on the actual css page), I have: cfset initialBigPhoto = 'bigPhotoBGWaterBoy.png' / On bigPhoto.css.cfm, I have: cfcontent type=text/css; charset=UTF-8 / cfinclude template = bigPhoto_ThomasHill.css.cfm (The site-specific css variables are stored in the bigPhoto_ThomasHill.css.cfm file) cfoutput body { background: ##000 url('../styleGraphics/##initialBigPhoto##') no-repeat center top fixed; } etc... /cfoutput The css rules aren't being recognized and, therefore, no style applied. I tried doing this without the cfinclude, but that didn't help. What am I missing? -Original Message- From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:03 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Check the header info on the site in question. Match the charset to whatever that is. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: so, cfcontent type=text/css charset=UTF-8 ? -Original Message- From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:29 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF You'll probably want to define the charset to match whatever you're using in your HTML. I *think* CF defaults to UTF-8. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So just use: style.cfm - cfcontent type=text/css charset=ISO-8859-1 cfset variables.color = ##fff cfoutput body { color:#variables.color#; } /cfoutput Then in calling doc: link rel=stylesheet href=style.cfm text=text/css / ??? Also, I got the charset=ISO-8859-1 from an example. Is that necessary or important, and why? -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:05 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Nah. Just use .cfm and cfcontent to set the type of the .cfm to .css and then you can actually call the .cfm where you'd usually call your .css file in HTML. I promise it's easier done than said. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So, is setting up IIS to cause CF to parse CSS files still the best way to accomplish using variables in CSS files? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343727 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Parsing .css files with CF
Nevermind... duh... wrong file path... -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Parsing .css files with CF Hmmm... I keep getting the feedback from firebug that there are no rules for this stylesheet... On the index.cfm, I have: meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8 / link type=text/css rel=stylesheet href=styles/bigPhoto/css/bigPhoto.css.cfm / On bigPhoto_ThomasHill.css.cfm (an include on the actual css page), I have: cfset initialBigPhoto = 'bigPhotoBGWaterBoy.png' / On bigPhoto.css.cfm, I have: cfcontent type=text/css; charset=UTF-8 / cfinclude template = bigPhoto_ThomasHill.css.cfm (The site-specific css variables are stored in the bigPhoto_ThomasHill.css.cfm file) cfoutput body { background: ##000 url('../styleGraphics/##initialBigPhoto##') no-repeat center top fixed; } etc... /cfoutput The css rules aren't being recognized and, therefore, no style applied. I tried doing this without the cfinclude, but that didn't help. What am I missing? -Original Message- From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:03 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Check the header info on the site in question. Match the charset to whatever that is. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: so, cfcontent type=text/css charset=UTF-8 ? -Original Message- From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:29 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF You'll probably want to define the charset to match whatever you're using in your HTML. I *think* CF defaults to UTF-8. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So just use: style.cfm - cfcontent type=text/css charset=ISO-8859-1 cfset variables.color = ##fff cfoutput body { color:#variables.color#; } /cfoutput Then in calling doc: link rel=stylesheet href=style.cfm text=text/css / ??? Also, I got the charset=ISO-8859-1 from an example. Is that necessary or important, and why? -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:05 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Nah. Just use .cfm and cfcontent to set the type of the .cfm to .css and then you can actually call the .cfm where you'd usually call your .css file in HTML. I promise it's easier done than said. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So, is setting up IIS to cause CF to parse CSS files still the best way to accomplish using variables in CSS files? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343728 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Parsing .css files with CF
On 4/14/2011 10:43 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Nevermind... duh... wrong file path... I was about to suggest typing the CSS path into your browser url bar to make sure there is actually a file located there. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343729 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Parsing .css files with CF
One thing to consider with this approach is that you lose the browser caching benefits. Is writing a CSS file at variable change time an option? On Apr 14, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: So just use: style.cfm - cfcontent type=text/css charset=ISO-8859-1 cfset variables.color = ##fff cfoutput body { color:#variables.color#; } /cfoutput Then in calling doc: link rel=stylesheet href=style.cfm text=text/css / ??? Also, I got the charset=ISO-8859-1 from an example. Is that necessary or important, and why? -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:05 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Nah. Just use .cfm and cfcontent to set the type of the .cfm to .css and then you can actually call the .cfm where you'd usually call your .css file in HTML. I promise it's easier done than said. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So, is setting up IIS to cause CF to parse CSS files still the best way to accomplish using variables in CSS files? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343730 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Parsing .css files with CF
This is true... I'll just have to see if there's a significant delay without the caching. I have to wonder today, with high-speed bandwidth so prevalent, if caching is even an issue anymore. -Original Message- From: Lists [mailto:li...@commadelimited.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:51 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF One thing to consider with this approach is that you lose the browser caching benefits. Is writing a CSS file at variable change time an option? On Apr 14, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote: So just use: style.cfm - cfcontent type=text/css charset=ISO-8859-1 cfset variables.color = ##fff cfoutput body { color:#variables.color#; } /cfoutput Then in calling doc: link rel=stylesheet href=style.cfm text=text/css / ??? Also, I got the charset=ISO-8859-1 from an example. Is that necessary or important, and why? -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:05 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Nah. Just use .cfm and cfcontent to set the type of the .cfm to .css and then you can actually call the .cfm where you'd usually call your .css file in HTML. I promise it's easier done than said. :-) On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: So, is setting up IIS to cause CF to parse CSS files still the best way to accomplish using variables in CSS files? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343731 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Parsing .css files with CF
I have to wonder today, with high-speed bandwidth so prevalent, if caching is even an issue anymore. Yes. Caching is still a big issue, even as bandwidth increases. There's a reason why we have CDNs, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343732 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Parsing .css files with CF
Would the benefits to the network of running an MSOC site over a network that utilizes dynamic stylesheets where much more content is accessed from the same point-of-origin (assuming this causes more caching of images, etc.) outweigh the benefits of running multiple sites that have much of the same content (images, especially) from one-site, one-codebase setups? In other words, do MSOC sites use much less bandwidth typically than OSOC sites? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 2:03 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF I have to wonder today, with high-speed bandwidth so prevalent, if caching is even an issue anymore. Yes. Caching is still a big issue, even as bandwidth increases. There's a reason why we have CDNs, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343733 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Parsing .css files with CF
Would the benefits to the network of running an MSOC site over a network that utilizes dynamic stylesheets where much more content is accessed from the same point-of-origin (assuming this causes more caching of images, etc.) outweigh the benefits of running multiple sites that have much of the same content (images, especially) from one-site, one-codebase setups? In other words, do MSOC sites use much less bandwidth typically than OSOC sites? I don't think you can really come to a definite conclusion here - you can build bandwidth-inefficient MSOC sites, or bandwidth-efficient OSOC sites. (Hint: are you properly using the Last-Modified HTTP response header in your scripts? are you properly responding to If-Modified-Since HTTP request headers?) There's no reason you can't have an MSOC environment that generates cached, site-specific (maybe site-specific isn't the right phrase here, let's say specific to one of your clients) content. There's no reason that you need to generate CSS at runtime, unless you have inputs at runtime that would affect the output. Usually, you already have the inputs well in advance of runtime. Of course, this is largely true for a lot of site content - not just CSS. The more of that you can cache, the better your application will perform, but the more infrastructure you need to manage changes. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343734 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Parsing .css files with CF
Thank for the info! I'll have to look into the last-modified and if-modified issues. Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 2:19 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Parsing .css files with CF Would the benefits to the network of running an MSOC site over a network that utilizes dynamic stylesheets where much more content is accessed from the same point-of-origin (assuming this causes more caching of images, etc.) outweigh the benefits of running multiple sites that have much of the same content (images, especially) from one-site, one-codebase setups? In other words, do MSOC sites use much less bandwidth typically than OSOC sites? I don't think you can really come to a definite conclusion here - you can build bandwidth-inefficient MSOC sites, or bandwidth-efficient OSOC sites. (Hint: are you properly using the Last-Modified HTTP response header in your scripts? are you properly responding to If-Modified-Since HTTP request headers?) There's no reason you can't have an MSOC environment that generates cached, site-specific (maybe site-specific isn't the right phrase here, let's say specific to one of your clients) content. There's no reason that you need to generate CSS at runtime, unless you have inputs at runtime that would affect the output. Usually, you already have the inputs well in advance of runtime. Of course, this is largely true for a lot of site content - not just CSS. The more of that you can cache, the better your application will perform, but the more infrastructure you need to manage changes. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343738 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Report Builder on CF9 with CSS questions
1. I am unable to get the CSS export link to produce an output file. Has anyone been able to get this function working? 2. Does the CSS style override function actually work? I am trying to override the margins on a text field but this CSS function is not changing anything. 3. The importing of Image files in the report does not work. An image object will not render in the report unless I copy the image and DROP it on the report layout in CF Report builder. The image is therefore embedded in the CFR file. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343442 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CSS and cfcontent
Hi All- Does linked CSS document apply styles to the HTML within cfcontent (type=excel). I do not see any CSS formatting in the excel document... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335712 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
ColdFusion 9 CSS Reset Warning
Hi All, I just upgraded one my old sites to CF9 and was surprised all of a sudden to see some changes in formatting on some pages but not others. IE; strong tags not bolding, h1's looking different than previously and other issues as well. After some investigating I found the issue, apparently CF9's ext framework has a built in CSS reset. See the code below. File: CFIDE/scripts/ajax/resources/ext/css/ext-all.css html,body,div,dl,dt,dd,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,pre,form,fieldset,input,p,blockquot e,th,td{margin:0;padding:0;} img,body,html{border:0;} address,caption,cite,code,dfn,em,strong,th,var{font-style:normal;font-weight :normal;} //ol,ul {list-style:none;} caption,th {text-align:left;} //h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6{font-size:100%;} q:before,q:after{content:'';} I know, this is something that I should have probably been doing already and strong tags are deprecated, but still. If I wanted to do a css reset, I would do a css reset and wouldn't expect a ColdFusion upgrade to do it for me. Note: to make it more odd, this only effects pages that are using ColdFusion tags that use the ext framework like cfgrid, cfwindow, cftooltip ect. Best Regards, Paul Alkema http://paulalkema.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334645 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion 9 CSS Reset Warning
Yep - this is a known issue. I just saw a blog entry on it a little while ago - and it had a good workaround too. Give me a minute to dig it up. On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Paul Alkema paulalkemadesi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just upgraded one my old sites to CF9 and was surprised all of a sudden to see some changes in formatting on some pages but not others. IE; strong tags not bolding, h1's looking different than previously and other issues as well. After some investigating I found the issue, apparently CF9's ext framework has a built in CSS reset. See the code below. File: CFIDE/scripts/ajax/resources/ext/css/ext-all.css html,body,div,dl,dt,dd,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,pre,form,fieldset,input,p,blockquot e,th,td{margin:0;padding:0;} img,body,html{border:0;} address,caption,cite,code,dfn,em,strong,th,var{font-style:normal;font-weight :normal;} //ol,ul {list-style:none;} caption,th {text-align:left;} //h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6{font-size:100%;} q:before,q:after{content:'';} I know, this is something that I should have probably been doing already and strong tags are deprecated, but still. If I wanted to do a css reset, I would do a css reset and wouldn't expect a ColdFusion upgrade to do it for me. Note: to make it more odd, this only effects pages that are using ColdFusion tags that use the ext framework like cfgrid, cfwindow, cftooltip ect. Best Regards, Paul Alkema http://paulalkema.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334646 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion 9 CSS Reset Warning
Ah, ok. I Googled it and didn't find much. Maybe I just didn't search the correct thing. Anyway, I fixed it by just going into the file on the server and commenting out the reset. Don't know if that was the correct thing to do or not, but it fixed it for me and my ajax tags seem to be ok. -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:59 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion 9 CSS Reset Warning Yep - this is a known issue. I just saw a blog entry on it a little while ago - and it had a good workaround too. Give me a minute to dig it up. On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Paul Alkema paulalkemadesi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just upgraded one my old sites to CF9 and was surprised all of a sudden to see some changes in formatting on some pages but not others. IE; strong tags not bolding, h1's looking different than previously and other issues as well. After some investigating I found the issue, apparently CF9's ext framework has a built in CSS reset. See the code below. File: CFIDE/scripts/ajax/resources/ext/css/ext-all.css html,body,div,dl,dt,dd,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,pre,form,fieldset,input,p,blockquot e,th,td{margin:0;padding:0;} img,body,html{border:0;} address,caption,cite,code,dfn,em,strong,th,var{font-style:normal;font-weight :normal;} //ol,ul {list-style:none;} caption,th {text-align:left;} //h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6{font-size:100%;} q:before,q:after{content:'';} I know, this is something that I should have probably been doing already and strong tags are deprecated, but still. If I wanted to do a css reset, I would do a css reset and wouldn't expect a ColdFusion upgrade to do it for me. Note: to make it more odd, this only effects pages that are using ColdFusion tags that use the ext framework like cfgrid, cfwindow, cftooltip ect. Best Regards, Paul Alkema http://paulalkema.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334647 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion 9 CSS Reset Warning
http://nm1m.blogspot.com/2009/11/cfwindow-css-bug-workaround.html On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Yep - this is a known issue. I just saw a blog entry on it a little while ago - and it had a good workaround too. Give me a minute to dig it up. On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Paul Alkema paulalkemadesi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just upgraded one my old sites to CF9 and was surprised all of a sudden to see some changes in formatting on some pages but not others. IE; strong tags not bolding, h1's looking different than previously and other issues as well. After some investigating I found the issue, apparently CF9's ext framework has a built in CSS reset. -- === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master Email: r...@camdenfamily.com Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster Keep up to date with the community: http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334648 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion 9 CSS Reset Warning
Thanks Ray, This was very helpful. -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:05 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion 9 CSS Reset Warning http://nm1m.blogspot.com/2009/11/cfwindow-css-bug-workaround.html On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Yep - this is a known issue. I just saw a blog entry on it a little while ago - and it had a good workaround too. Give me a minute to dig it up. On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Paul Alkema paulalkemadesi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just upgraded one my old sites to CF9 and was surprised all of a sudden to see some changes in formatting on some pages but not others. IE; strong tags not bolding, h1's looking different than previously and other issues as well. After some investigating I found the issue, apparently CF9's ext framework has a built in CSS reset. -- === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master Email: r...@camdenfamily.com Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster Keep up to date with the community: http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334650 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
That's just real odd how it was working and still works locally and in our staging environments. Oh well if it's problematic then this could happen again or something else.. so better to get it resolved now Thanks guys! On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Roger Austin raust...@nc.rr.com wrote: On 4/6/2010 7:23 PM, Dave Watts wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 14:07, Greg Morphisgmorp...@gmail.com wrote: If it helps any this is a PDF we're displaying for the user. Thelink tag is within thecfdocumentsection tag.. cfdocument ... cfdocumentsection ... link rel=stylesheet ... I recommend that you use CFINCLUDE to include the contents of the stylesheet within an HTML STYLE tag. Linking to stylesheets is always problematic when using CFDOCUMENT. I agree with this. I have never gotten linked style sheets to work properly with cfdocument. I even had to duplicate them inside of the headers and footers at times to get proper styles. I was using CF7 at the time. I hope Adobe fixes this in the future versions. I have not experimented with cfdocument in CF8 or CF9 so I can't say for certain if these issues persist. -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek MissHunt: http://www.misshunt.com/ (Home of the Clean/Dirty Magnet) NCDevCon: http://ncdevcon.com/ 2010 Raleigh ColdFusion Conference ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332691 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: SOT: external css not displaying
I've never been able to get the link tag to work with cfdocument. Try this: style type=text/css media=print cfinclude template=print.css / /style -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:gmorp...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:20 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: SOT: external css not displaying No because it's on an intranet, company info.. but here's the relevant code: cfdocument format=pdf overwrite=yes cfdocumentsection link rel=stylesheet href=print.css type=text/css media=print / On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Alan Rother alan.rot...@gmail.com wrote: Any chance you could share the URL so we can look at it? =] -- Alan Rother Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, AZCFUG.org ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332695 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
Using the style tags isn't working either. If I comment out the cfdocument and cfdocumentsection then the formatting works. If I uncomment those lines, it doesn't work. I uploaded my code to here.. http://snipt.org/Jyh You can see all the places I tried the link rel=... and the style tags. Maybe you can see something I don't.. This is ColdFusion 7.02 on a Windows 2000 server Thanks! On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:33 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) sd1...@att.com wrote: I've never been able to get the link tag to work with cfdocument. Try this: style type=text/css media=print cfinclude template=print.css / /style -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:gmorp...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:20 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: SOT: external css not displaying No because it's on an intranet, company info.. but here's the relevant code: cfdocument format=pdf overwrite=yes cfdocumentsection link rel=stylesheet href=print.css type=text/css media=print / On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Alan Rother alan.rot...@gmail.com wrote: Any chance you could share the URL so we can look at it? =] -- Alan Rother Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, AZCFUG.org ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332696 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
Using the style tags isn't working either. If I comment out the cfdocument and cfdocumentsection then the formatting works. If I uncomment those lines, it doesn't work. I uploaded my code to here.. http://snipt.org/Jyh You can see all the places I tried the link rel=... and the style tags. Maybe you can see something I don't.. This is ColdFusion 7.02 on a Windows 2000 server Here's the problem. You need to include the styles in each CFDOCUMENTSECTION, even if you've already included them or linked them elsewhere. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332697 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
What a pain in the ass but you called it Dave.. thanks! On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Using the style tags isn't working either. If I comment out the cfdocument and cfdocumentsection then the formatting works. If I uncomment those lines, it doesn't work. I uploaded my code to here.. http://snipt.org/Jyh You can see all the places I tried the link rel=... and the style tags. Maybe you can see something I don't.. This is ColdFusion 7.02 on a Windows 2000 server Here's the problem. You need to include the styles in each CFDOCUMENTSECTION, even if you've already included them or linked them elsewhere. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332698 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
What a pain in the ass but you called it Dave.. thanks! Just to toot my own horn, this is covered in detail in the Advanced ColdFusion course. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332699 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
SOT: external css not displaying
We just renewed the IIS certs on our servers yesterday and today an app that uses external CSS is not formatting. It's almost as if the CSS file isn't found though it's in the same directory as the files. Everything works locally and our staging server. The CSS file is being called: link rel=stylesheet href=print.css type=text/css media=print / any ideas why this would be working yesterday and after the new certs are installed it stops? Thanks! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332647 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: external css not displaying
Have you tried using Firebug to see if the file is indeed failing to load? andy -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:gmorp...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:42 AM To: cf-talk Subject: SOT: external css not displaying We just renewed the IIS certs on our servers yesterday and today an app that uses external CSS is not formatting. It's almost as if the CSS file isn't found though it's in the same directory as the files. Everything works locally and our staging server. The CSS file is being called: link rel=stylesheet href=print.css type=text/css media=print / any ideas why this would be working yesterday and after the new certs are installed it stops? Thanks! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332649 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
That CSS file is used when printing. When you say the CSS isn't showing up are you referring to the printouts you get or what you see on the computer screen? Updating SSL certs is unlikely to be related to whatever CSS problems you are encountering. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Greg Morphis gmorp...@gmail.com wrote: We just renewed the IIS certs on our servers yesterday and today an app that uses external CSS is not formatting. It's almost as if the CSS file isn't found though it's in the same directory as the files. Everything works locally and our staging server. The CSS file is being called: link rel=stylesheet href=print.css type=text/css media=print / any ideas why this would be working yesterday and after the new certs are installed it stops? Thanks! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332651 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
Locally and in our staging environments the PDF created is formatted correctly when viewing. However in production its not formatted at all. On Apr 6, 2010 3:19 PM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: That CSS file is used when printing. When you say the CSS isn't showing up are you referring to the printouts you get or what you see on the computer screen? Updating SSL certs is unlikely to be related to whatever CSS problems you are encountering. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Greg Morphis gmorp...@gmail.com wrote: We just renewed the I... ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332654 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
If it helps any this is a PDF we're displaying for the user. The link tag is within the cfdocumentsection tag.. cfdocument ... cfdocumentsection ... link rel=stylesheet ... Thanks, any ideas are appreciated On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Greg Morphis gmorp...@gmail.com wrote: We just renewed the IIS certs on our servers yesterday and today an app that uses external CSS is not formatting. It's almost as if the CSS file isn't found though it's in the same directory as the files. Everything works locally and our staging server. The CSS file is being called: link rel=stylesheet href=print.css type=text/css media=print / any ideas why this would be working yesterday and after the new certs are installed it stops? Thanks! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332657 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
Any chance you could share the URL so we can look at it? =] -- Alan Rother Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, AZCFUG.org ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332659 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
No because it's on an intranet, company info.. but here's the relevant code: cfdocument format=pdf overwrite=yes cfdocumentsection link rel=stylesheet href=print.css type=text/css media=print / On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Alan Rother alan.rot...@gmail.com wrote: Any chance you could share the URL so we can look at it? =] -- Alan Rother Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, AZCFUG.org ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332664 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 14:07, Greg Morphis gmorp...@gmail.com wrote: If it helps any this is a PDF we're displaying for the user. The link tag is within the cfdocumentsection tag.. cfdocument ... cfdocumentsection ... link rel=stylesheet ... I recommend that you use CFINCLUDE to include the contents of the stylesheet within an HTML STYLE tag. Linking to stylesheets is always problematic when using CFDOCUMENT. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332668 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: external css not displaying
On 4/6/2010 7:23 PM, Dave Watts wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 14:07, Greg Morphisgmorp...@gmail.com wrote: If it helps any this is a PDF we're displaying for the user. Thelink tag is within thecfdocumentsection tag.. cfdocument ... cfdocumentsection ... link rel=stylesheet ... I recommend that you use CFINCLUDE to include the contents of the stylesheet within an HTML STYLE tag. Linking to stylesheets is always problematic when using CFDOCUMENT. I agree with this. I have never gotten linked style sheets to work properly with cfdocument. I even had to duplicate them inside of the headers and footers at times to get proper styles. I was using CF7 at the time. I hope Adobe fixes this in the future versions. I have not experimented with cfdocument in CF8 or CF9 so I can't say for certain if these issues persist. -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek MissHunt: http://www.misshunt.com/ (Home of the Clean/Dirty Magnet) NCDevCon: http://ncdevcon.com/ 2010 Raleigh ColdFusion Conference ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332671 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CSS Help
Anyone want to take a gander at this? http://www.opensourcecf.com/cfopenchat/layout.html In the above layout, I only want to hard code the width and height in the outermost div (the inside of that div will be code generated) This works great in Chrome and IE.. but not Firefox... and I don't know why. Also, if anyone would like to suggest a non-table driven alternative layout... please do! Rick ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:327303 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CSS Help
Rick Root wrote: Anyone want to take a gander at this? http://www.opensourcecf.com/cfopenchat/layout.html In the above layout, I only want to hard code the width and height in the outermost div (the inside of that div will be code generated) This works great in Chrome and IE.. but not Firefox... and I don't know why. There were a couple of html bits missing or duplicated, looks like you tried lots of options :-) Also, if anyone would like to suggest a non-table driven alternative layout... please do! Sent to you off-list -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:327304 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CSS editor for eclipse galileo?
Hi everyone, does anyone have any recommendations for a CSS editor for eclipse galileo? I used to use aptana, but it just does WAAAY more than i need it to, and it seems to get in the way of CFEclipse at times (for example, when I have aptana cfeclipse installed i can no longer drag drop text). I'm okay with firing up an external editor if there's a good free one available. Thanks! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:323957 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CSS editor for eclipse galileo?
Web Tools Project? Mark On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Jake Pilgrim jpilg...@snapfitness.comwrote: Hi everyone, does anyone have any recommendations for a CSS editor for eclipse galileo? I used to use aptana, but it just does WAAAY more than i need it to, and it seems to get in the way of CFEclipse at times (for example, when I have aptana cfeclipse installed i can no longer drag drop text). I'm okay with firing up an external editor if there's a good free one available. Thanks! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:323958 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CSS editor for eclipse galileo?
I recently installed the Amateras plug-in on the recommendation of someone on the list. (Jim?) It's doing a great job with CSS, JS, and JSP editing. I think it handles XML, too, but I don't do XML, so I'm not sure about that. I tried Aptana, too, but it was wy to pushy. I don't even know that Amateras is there, except for the functions it provides. Highly recommended. Rick On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: Web Tools Project? Mark On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Jake Pilgrim jpilg...@snapfitness.com wrote: Hi everyone, does anyone have any recommendations for a CSS editor for eclipse galileo? I used to use aptana, but it just does WAAAY more than i need it to, and it seems to get in the way of CFEclipse at times (for example, when I have aptana cfeclipse installed i can no longer drag drop text). I'm okay with firing up an external editor if there's a good free one available. Thanks! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:323959 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
css and cfdocument...grrr
Ok, I know cfdocument is finicky about the html it tries to render into a pdf. I have a template I'm putting together and it validates xhtml transitional, it uses both @import and link to include the stylesheet (just in case), I use a standard Yahoo supplied reset css file and the resulting html renders identically in Firefox, IE 7 and Chrome. So, several things don't actually render correctly at all in the resulting pdf. Things like background colors bleeding over into other elements, background colors not showing up at all on a div whose only content are other divs, etc. Where are the best places to look for tips on making it behave? And are there good troubleshooting guides for things to pay attention to/avoid? I'm ok with a little black magic but this is getting irritating as there is no obvious place to correct these problems. Thanks, Judah ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:323652 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: css and cfdocument...grrr
Also, floats don't work correctly in cfdocument. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:17 PM To: cf-talk Subject: css and cfdocument...grrr Ok, I know cfdocument is finicky about the html it tries to render into a pdf. I have a template I'm putting together and it validates xhtml transitional, it uses both @import and link to include the stylesheet (just in case), I use a standard Yahoo supplied reset css file and the resulting html renders identically in Firefox, IE 7 and Chrome. So, several things don't actually render correctly at all in the resulting pdf. Things like background colors bleeding over into other elements, background colors not showing up at all on a div whose only content are other divs, etc. Where are the best places to look for tips on making it behave? And are there good troubleshooting guides for things to pay attention to/avoid? I'm ok with a little black magic but this is getting irritating as there is no obvious place to correct these problems. Thanks, Judah ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:323653 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: css and cfdocument...grrr
This is pretty old but it might be helpful. http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2006/2/16/cfdocument.performance The main thing to realize is that converting HTML to PDF is really a trick - going from a fluid medium to a very staticky and specific medium. Unless your HTML is already pretty lean and minimal you may need a different layout wrapper. Also check to see if your CSS is even making it into cfdocument. Remember that if you use something like: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/css/mystylesheet.css media=screen / In your cfdocument, CF has to retrieve that resource to include it into the doc. Under the hood it makes a cfhttp call right? The server has to resolve the domain into the proper IP etc. So a lot of things might have to go right for that to work. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:17 PM To: cf-talk Subject: css and cfdocument...grrr Ok, I know cfdocument is finicky about the html it tries to render into a pdf. I have a template I'm putting together and it validates xhtml transitional, it uses both @import and link to include the stylesheet (just in case), I use a standard Yahoo supplied reset css file and the resulting html renders identically in Firefox, IE 7 and Chrome. So, several things don't actually render correctly at all in the resulting pdf. Things like background colors bleeding over into other elements, background colors not showing up at all on a div whose only content are other divs, etc. Where are the best places to look for tips on making it behave? And are there good troubleshooting guides for things to pay attention to/avoid? I'm ok with a little black magic but this is getting irritating as there is no obvious place to correct these problems. Thanks, Judah ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:323654 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: css and cfdocument...grrr
The CSS file is definitely being included, so that's good. And I haven't tried to do anything with images yet, thankfully. Perhaps I need to move to a fixed-width layout using inches as units instead of percentages. Or maybe tables. Blech. Thanks for that link though, I haven't looked at that one in quite awhile. Judah On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Mark Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: This is pretty old but it might be helpful. http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2006/2/16/cfdocument.performance The main thing to realize is that converting HTML to PDF is really a trick - going from a fluid medium to a very staticky and specific medium. Unless your HTML is already pretty lean and minimal you may need a different layout wrapper. Also check to see if your CSS is even making it into cfdocument. Remember that if you use something like: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=/css/mystylesheet.css media=screen / In your cfdocument, CF has to retrieve that resource to include it into the doc. Under the hood it makes a cfhttp call right? The server has to resolve the domain into the proper IP etc. So a lot of things might have to go right for that to work. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:17 PM To: cf-talk Subject: css and cfdocument...grrr Ok, I know cfdocument is finicky about the html it tries to render into a pdf. I have a template I'm putting together and it validates xhtml transitional, it uses both @import and link to include the stylesheet (just in case), I use a standard Yahoo supplied reset css file and the resulting html renders identically in Firefox, IE 7 and Chrome. So, several things don't actually render correctly at all in the resulting pdf. Things like background colors bleeding over into other elements, background colors not showing up at all on a div whose only content are other divs, etc. Where are the best places to look for tips on making it behave? And are there good troubleshooting guides for things to pay attention to/avoid? I'm ok with a little black magic but this is getting irritating as there is no obvious place to correct these problems. Thanks, Judah ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:323655 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4