Re: Hosting - Clear Template Cache required
We do not enable this on our shared servers, although I wish we could. Would be nice if this was maybe a sandbox option, so it could be done per site. I have noticed on our internal stuff that hosting files on a unc path, sometimes acts like caching is on, but I think it is more windows causing that issue. Byron Mann Lead Engineer Architect HostMySite.com On Feb 25, 2013 3:50 PM, Adam Cameron adamcameroncoldfus...@gmail.com wrote: Trusted cache is not *required* on CF10 any more than it is on CF9. However on a production server it *should* be on. It'd be good if you could get an explanation from your hosting provider as to why they think it's *necessary* on CF10. If only to demonstrate their ignorance to themselves. -- Adam On 26 February 2013 08:19, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: I expect they have the trusted cache enabled, but considering all the issues cf10 has had, they may be right. Regards Russ Michaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354752 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Hosting - Clear Template Cache required
I've been with Newtek (formerly CrystalTech) a long time. Ever since I moved to their CF10 plan, any edits I make to my CFMs require me to login to their cumbersome interface and issue a Clear Template Cache command. They say this is required by ColdFusion, not them, and that the only way to not have this happen is to switch me back to a CF9 plan. Ugh. So my questions are: 1. Are they right? Do ALL CF hosting companies require a Clear Template Cache feature for CF10? 2. Is there a programmatic way I can quickly clear the cache instead of relying on their interface? 3. What CF10 hosting company/ies do you recommend? Thanks! Dan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354682 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Hosting - Clear Template Cache required
I can't speak to whether or not they're right about CF10 (I've never used it), but I doubt they're right. That said, in reference to your third question, my answer is: None. I would instead recommend that you use Railo with an Vivio Tech ( https://www.viviotech.net/) server/hosting account. They have the greatest customer service on the planet, and are just downright frequin awesome. :-) On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Dan LeGate d...@legeek.com wrote: I've been with Newtek (formerly CrystalTech) a long time. Ever since I moved to their CF10 plan, any edits I make to my CFMs require me to login to their cumbersome interface and issue a Clear Template Cache command. They say this is required by ColdFusion, not them, and that the only way to not have this happen is to switch me back to a CF9 plan. Ugh. So my questions are: 1. Are they right? Do ALL CF hosting companies require a Clear Template Cache feature for CF10? 2. Is there a programmatic way I can quickly clear the cache instead of relying on their interface? 3. What CF10 hosting company/ies do you recommend? Thanks! Dan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354683 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Hosting - Clear Template Cache required
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Dan LeGate d...@legeek.com wrote: Ever since I moved to their CF10 plan, any edits I make to my CFMs require me to login to their cumbersome interface and issue a Clear Template Cache command. They say this is required by ColdFusion, not them, and that the only way to not have this happen is to switch me back to a CF9 plan. Ugh. So my questions are: 1. Are they right? Do ALL CF hosting companies require a Clear Template Cache feature for CF10? Others will likely weigh in on this with better info, but ColdFusion does not require this behavior. It occurs when CF is set to use Trusted Cache. Raymond Camden has a clear explanation for why this is a good idea from a performance perspective. http://www.raymondcamden.com/index.cfm/2010/10/13/Why-arent-you-using-Trusted-Cache Regards, Stephen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354684 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Hosting - Clear Template Cache required
I expect they have the trusted cache enabled, but considering all the issues cf10 has had, they may be right. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Feb 25, 2013 6:58 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: I can't speak to whether or not they're right about CF10 (I've never used it), but I doubt they're right. That said, in reference to your third question, my answer is: None. I would instead recommend that you use Railo with an Vivio Tech ( https://www.viviotech.net/) server/hosting account. They have the greatest customer service on the planet, and are just downright frequin awesome. :-) On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Dan LeGate d...@legeek.com wrote: I've been with Newtek (formerly CrystalTech) a long time. Ever since I moved to their CF10 plan, any edits I make to my CFMs require me to login to their cumbersome interface and issue a Clear Template Cache command. They say this is required by ColdFusion, not them, and that the only way to not have this happen is to switch me back to a CF9 plan. Ugh. So my questions are: 1. Are they right? Do ALL CF hosting companies require a Clear Template Cache feature for CF10? 2. Is there a programmatic way I can quickly clear the cache instead of relying on their interface? 3. What CF10 hosting company/ies do you recommend? Thanks! Dan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354685 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Hosting - Clear Template Cache required
I am working with CF10 all the time these days. There is a setting for using Trusted Cache, but it is optional and up to the CFAdmin to enable or disable this feature. In the past 6 months of working with CF10 servers I have never needed to Clear the Template Cache. Regards, Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Dan LeGate d...@legeek.com wrote: I've been with Newtek (formerly CrystalTech) a long time. Ever since I moved to their CF10 plan, any edits I make to my CFMs require me to login to their cumbersome interface and issue a Clear Template Cache command. They say this is required by ColdFusion, not them, and that the only way to not have this happen is to switch me back to a CF9 plan. Ugh. So my questions are: 1. Are they right? Do ALL CF hosting companies require a Clear Template Cache feature for CF10? 2. Is there a programmatic way I can quickly clear the cache instead of relying on their interface? 3. What CF10 hosting company/ies do you recommend? Thanks! Dan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354686 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Hosting - Clear Template Cache required
To answer your second question, yes, you can do it programmatically. But you need Admin API access. You could perhaps ask your host to write the script for you and place it someplace under your site root where you don't have read access on the file system (since the script would have admin credentials) but you would have the right to execute it via the web. That script would be - literally - 3 lines of code or so. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: I expect they have the trusted cache enabled, but considering all the issues cf10 has had, they may be right. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Feb 25, 2013 6:58 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: I can't speak to whether or not they're right about CF10 (I've never used it), but I doubt they're right. That said, in reference to your third question, my answer is: None. I would instead recommend that you use Railo with an Vivio Tech ( https://www.viviotech.net/) server/hosting account. They have the greatest customer service on the planet, and are just downright frequin awesome. :-) On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Dan LeGate d...@legeek.com wrote: I've been with Newtek (formerly CrystalTech) a long time. Ever since I moved to their CF10 plan, any edits I make to my CFMs require me to login to their cumbersome interface and issue a Clear Template Cache command. They say this is required by ColdFusion, not them, and that the only way to not have this happen is to switch me back to a CF9 plan. Ugh. So my questions are: 1. Are they right? Do ALL CF hosting companies require a Clear Template Cache feature for CF10? 2. Is there a programmatic way I can quickly clear the cache instead of relying on their interface? 3. What CF10 hosting company/ies do you recommend? Thanks! Dan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354687 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Hosting - Clear Template Cache required
Trusted cache is not *required* on CF10 any more than it is on CF9. However on a production server it *should* be on. It'd be good if you could get an explanation from your hosting provider as to why they think it's *necessary* on CF10. If only to demonstrate their ignorance to themselves. -- Adam On 26 February 2013 08:19, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: I expect they have the trusted cache enabled, but considering all the issues cf10 has had, they may be right. Regards Russ Michaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354688 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
