RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-28 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I totally agree.


From: "Mark A. Kruger" 
Sent: 26 July 2011 14:07
To: cf-talk 
Subject: RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault 

Do we have to go through this again.




~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346382
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-27 Thread Sean Corfield

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Matt Williams  wrote:
> Interesting concept. Seems like somebody could do the same for Java -
> maybe a tag based deal with some cool tie-ins to a database, email,
> searching, web services, dhtml, reports ...

LOL!

I think it's interesting that they chose C++ as their "assembler".
There is Caucho which implements PHP on top of the JVM but I don't
know how well it works (I highlighted as part of my "Scripting for
ColdFusion" project some years back, as a way of embedding PHP
fragments in CFML pages and running them).

On a sort of related note, given that many languages compile to Java
bytecode these days, the Clojure project team (a modern Lisp on the
JVM) has just released ClojureScript which is effectively a version of
Clojure that compiles to JavaScript and can use the Google Closure
Compiler / Library to create very small, highly optimized JS for use
in the browser or on Node.js. You might not have consider JS as
"assembler" either, unless you follow Scott Hanselman's blog:

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/JavaScriptIsAssemblyLanguageForTheWebSematicMarkupIsDeadCleanVsMachinecodedHTML.aspx
http://www.hanselman.com/blog/JavaScriptIsAssemblyLanguageForTheWebPart2MadnessOrJustInsanity.aspx

The net result is the ability to write all of your web application
code in a dialect of Clojure, on the server and on the client - and
even give yourself the choice of Node.js or the JVM as the backend
platform. There are even libraries for generating both CSS and HTML
from pure Clojure if you feel inclined.
-- 
Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/
Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/

"Perfection is the enemy of the good."
-- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346377
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-27 Thread Russ Michaels

wow that is some Sarcasm :-)

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Matt Williams  wrote:

>
> > Specifically: "One of the explicit design goals leading into HipHop
> > was the ability to continue writing complex logic directly within
> > PHP." - so they do 'work' in PHP, they do not write C++.
>
> Interesting concept. Seems like somebody could do the same for Java -
> maybe a tag based deal with some cool tie-ins to a database, email,
> searching, web services, dhtml, reports ...
>
> So full of good ideas I could pop,
>
> - Matt
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346354
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-27 Thread Matt Williams

> Specifically: "One of the explicit design goals leading into HipHop
> was the ability to continue writing complex logic directly within
> PHP." - so they do 'work' in PHP, they do not write C++.

Interesting concept. Seems like somebody could do the same for Java -
maybe a tag based deal with some cool tie-ins to a database, email,
searching, web services, dhtml, reports ...

So full of good ideas I could pop,

- Matt

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346353
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Sean Corfield

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Wil Genovese  wrote:
> http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-trapped-in-mysql-fate-worse-than-death/

It's worth pointing out that the person being interviewed, Michael
Stonebraker, runs a database company that competes with MySQL (and
others) and he's promoting his "NewSQL" database technology over _all_
current SQL and no-SQL solutions so he may be a tiny bit biased :)

> From what I understand, PHP is only used as the front end view, ann the code 
> to do 'work' is c++.

Facebook have developed a PHP to C++ translator called HipHop and they
use that to convert their code and then compile it to native code to
create a faster system:

https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php/wiki/

Specifically: "One of the explicit design goals leading into HipHop
was the ability to continue writing complex logic directly within
PHP." - so they do 'work' in PHP, they do not write C++.
-- 
Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/
Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/

"Perfection is the enemy of the good."
-- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346351
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts

I told him to come over here and talk to some people who have ACTUAL
knowledge of ColdFusion...

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault


> May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for 
> the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)
>
> http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspace
> s-fall

Taking technology advice from Forbes is probably as bad an idea as taking
capital investment advice from a programmer. And the author of that article
is a marketer, primarily - taking any advice from a marketer is probably a
bad idea in any case.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule,
and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our
training centers, online, or onsite.



~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346350
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Gerald Guido

Dammit...
A professional* through and through

*Dyslexia is a biotch... Oh well, point made.
*
G!

*
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:

> Go Steve!
>
> Retraction made:
>
> (Note–the comment thread below establishes that it was the inflexible
>> implementation of ColdFusion, rather than the underlying platform itself,
>> that created this problem)
>>
>
> Well done sir. A professional though and though.
>
> G!
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades <
> cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> For those of us who know better (most everyone here) this is an
>> opportunity. Go to the article, read the author's ill-informed mistake
>> of a conclusion, and provide an educated and appropriate response to
>> debunk the supposition/accusation implied.
>>
>> Don't continue the discussion here. Take it to the appropriate source.
>>
>> Steve 'Cutter' Blades
>> Adobe Community Professional
>> Adobe Certified Expert
>> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
>> 
>> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
>>
>>
>> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
>>
>> https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
>>
>> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it"
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/2011 5:41 AM, Kevin Parker wrote:
>> > May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the
>> > demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall
>> > /
>> >
>> >
>> > ++
>> > Kevin Parker
>> > Advanced Imaging
>> >
>> > e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au
>> > w: www.advancedimaging.com.au
>> > m: 0418 815 527
>> >
>> > ++
>> >
>> > http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346349
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Gerald Guido

Go Steve!

Retraction made:

(Note–the comment thread below establishes that it was the inflexible
> implementation of ColdFusion, rather than the underlying platform itself,
> that created this problem)
>

Well done sir. A professional though and though.

G!

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades <
cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com> wrote:

>
> For those of us who know better (most everyone here) this is an
> opportunity. Go to the article, read the author's ill-informed mistake
> of a conclusion, and provide an educated and appropriate response to
> debunk the supposition/accusation implied.
>
> Don't continue the discussion here. Take it to the appropriate source.
>
> Steve 'Cutter' Blades
> Adobe Community Professional
> Adobe Certified Expert
> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> 
> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
>
>
> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
>
> https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
>
> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it"
>
>
> On 7/26/2011 5:41 AM, Kevin Parker wrote:
> > May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the
> > demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)
> >
> >
> http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall
> > /
> >
> >
> > ++
> > Kevin Parker
> > Advanced Imaging
> >
> > e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au
> > w: www.advancedimaging.com.au
> > m: 0418 815 527
> >
> > ++
> >
> > http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346348
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Dave Watts

> May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the
> demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)
>
> http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall

Taking technology advice from Forbes is probably as bad an idea as
taking capital investment advice from a programmer. And the author of
that article is a marketer, primarily - taking any advice from a
marketer is probably a bad idea in any case.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346344
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread David McGuigan

It's.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Kevin Parker wrote:

>
> May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the
> demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)
>
>
> http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall
> /
>
>
> ++
> Kevin Parker
> Advanced Imaging
>
> e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au
> w: www.advancedimaging.com.au
> m: 0418 815 527
>
> ++
>
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker
>
>
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346342
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Jacob

#3 and the constant spam messages.. that did if for me.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:41 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Its ColdFusion's Fault


May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the
demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)

http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall
/


++
Kevin Parker
Advanced Imaging

e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au
w: www.advancedimaging.com.au
m: 0418 815 527

++

http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker





~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346341
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Wil Genovese

I guess it's ColdFusion's fault also that Facebook is suffering from being 
locked into MySQL?  

http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-trapped-in-mysql-fate-worse-than-death/

Apparently MySQL was meant to be a large scale database.  Who Knew? ;-)

>From what I understand, PHP is only used as the front end view, ann the code 
>to do 'work' is c++.



Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

wilg...@trunkful.com
www.trunkful.com

On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:16 AM, James Holmes wrote:

> 
> I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source tools
> he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace hasn't
> run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via
> BlueDragon ages ago).
> 
> Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted
> to read.
> 
> --
> WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF
> http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/
> 
> 
> On 26 July 2011 18:00, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank of
>> America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the reasons
>> anyway ;-)
>> 
>> Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point?
>> 
>> --
>> /Kevin Pepperman
>> 
>> "*Never memorize what you can look up in books*."
>> --Albert_Einstein
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346340
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Russ Michaels

LOL, well he is a Wunker after all :-)

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades <
cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com> wrote:

>
> For those of us who know better (most everyone here) this is an
> opportunity. Go to the article, read the author's ill-informed mistake
> of a conclusion, and provide an educated and appropriate response to
> debunk the supposition/accusation implied.
>
> Don't continue the discussion here. Take it to the appropriate source.
>
> Steve 'Cutter' Blades
> Adobe Community Professional
> Adobe Certified Expert
> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> 
> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
>
>
> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
>
> https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
>
> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it"
>
>
> On 7/26/2011 5:41 AM, Kevin Parker wrote:
> > May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the
> > demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)
> >
> >
> http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall
> > /
> >
> >
> > ++
> > Kevin Parker
> > Advanced Imaging
> >
> > e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au
> > w: www.advancedimaging.com.au
> > m: 0418 815 527
> >
> > ++
> >
> > http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346338
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades

For those of us who know better (most everyone here) this is an 
opportunity. Go to the article, read the author's ill-informed mistake 
of a conclusion, and provide an educated and appropriate response to 
debunk the supposition/accusation implied.

Don't continue the discussion here. Take it to the appropriate source.

Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Adobe Community Professional
Adobe Certified Expert
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

http://blog.cutterscrossing.com


Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book

"The best way to predict the future is to help create it"


On 7/26/2011 5:41 AM, Kevin Parker wrote:
> May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the
> demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)
>
> http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall
> /
>
>
> ++
> Kevin Parker
> Advanced Imaging
>
> e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au
> w: www.advancedimaging.com.au
> m: 0418 815 527
>
> ++
>
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker
>
>
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346336
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Gerald Guido

>>Do we have to go through this again.  All the old timers here know this
thread will now last for 2 weeks and refuse to die.

+1 Kill it with fire.

G!


On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Mark A. Kruger wrote:

>
> Do we have to go through this again.  All the old timers here know this
> thread will now last for 2 weeks and refuse to die. Do a quick search on
> HOF
> for "ColdFusion dead" and you'll get 10 pages of results going back 10
> years. The life support for this discussion is truly a medical miracle.
>
> -Mark
>
> Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
> (402) 408-3733 ext 105
> www.cfwebtools.com
> www.coldfusionmuse.com
> www.necfug.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:41 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Its ColdFusion's Fault
>
>
> May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the
> demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)
>
>
> http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall
> /
>
>
> ++
> Kevin Parker
> Advanced Imaging
>
> e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au
> w: www.advancedimaging.com.au
> m: 0418 815 527
>
> ++
>
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker
>
>
>
>
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346335
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Do we have to go through this again.  All the old timers here know this
thread will now last for 2 weeks and refuse to die. Do a quick search on HOF
for "ColdFusion dead" and you'll get 10 pages of results going back 10
years. The life support for this discussion is truly a medical miracle.

-Mark

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:41 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Its ColdFusion's Fault


May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the
demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)

http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall
/


++
Kevin Parker
Advanced Imaging

e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au
w: www.advancedimaging.com.au
m: 0418 815 527

++

http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker





~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346334
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Russ Michaels

mysapce converted to .net and used BlueDragon.net for any CFML pages last I
heard. So no coldfusion involved.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:53 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> I tweeted at author:
>
> @NewMktsAdvisors #ColdFusion is plenty flexible when used right. MySpace
> didn't know how: Morals from MySpace’s Fall http://onforb.es/o3s66O
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Charlie Stell  >wrote:
>
> >
> > "Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one
> > wanted to read."
> >
> > Absolutely. And to add to it - then came along an alternative,  facebook,
> > which was not "full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read." So
> > myspace failed.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:16 AM, James Holmes  > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source
> > tools
> > > he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace
> hasn't
> > > run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via
> > > BlueDragon ages ago).
> > >
> > > Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one
> > wanted
> > > to read.
> > >
> > > --
> > > WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF
> > > http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/
> > >
> > >
> > > On 26 July 2011 18:00, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of
> Bank
> > > of
> > > > America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the
> > > reasons
> > > > anyway ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > /Kevin Pepperman
> > > >
> > > > "*Never memorize what you can look up in books*."
> > > > --Albert_Einstein
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346332
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread John M Bliss

I tweeted at author:

@NewMktsAdvisors #ColdFusion is plenty flexible when used right. MySpace
didn't know how: Morals from MySpace’s Fall http://onforb.es/o3s66O


On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Charlie Stell wrote:

>
> "Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one
> wanted to read."
>
> Absolutely. And to add to it - then came along an alternative,  facebook,
> which was not "full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read." So
> myspace failed.
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:16 AM, James Holmes  >wrote:
>
> >
> > I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source
> tools
> > he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace hasn't
> > run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via
> > BlueDragon ages ago).
> >
> > Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one
> wanted
> > to read.
> >
> > --
> > WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF
> > http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/
> >
> >
> > On 26 July 2011 18:00, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank
> > of
> > > America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the
> > reasons
> > > anyway ;-)
> > >
> > > Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point?
> > >
> > > --
> > > /Kevin Pepperman
> > >
> > > "*Never memorize what you can look up in books*."
> > > --Albert_Einstein
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346331
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Charlie Stell

"Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one
wanted to read."

Absolutely. And to add to it - then came along an alternative,  facebook,
which was not "full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read." So
myspace failed.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:16 AM, James Holmes wrote:

>
> I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source tools
> he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace hasn't
> run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via
> BlueDragon ages ago).
>
> Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted
> to read.
>
> --
> WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF
> http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/
>
>
> On 26 July 2011 18:00, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:
>
> >
> > Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank
> of
> > America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the
> reasons
> > anyway ;-)
> >
> > Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point?
> >
> > --
> > /Kevin Pepperman
> >
> > "*Never memorize what you can look up in books*."
> > --Albert_Einstein
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346329
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread James Holmes

I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source tools
he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace hasn't
run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via
BlueDragon ages ago).

Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted
to read.

--
WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF
http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/


On 26 July 2011 18:00, Kevin Pepperman  wrote:

>
> Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank of
> America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the reasons
> anyway ;-)
>
> Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point?
>
> --
> /Kevin Pepperman
>
> "*Never memorize what you can look up in books*."
> --Albert_Einstein
>
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346328
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Kevin Pepperman

Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank of
America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the reasons
anyway ;-)

Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point?

-- 
/Kevin Pepperman

"*Never memorize what you can look up in books*."
--Albert_Einstein


~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346327
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm


Its ColdFusion's Fault

2011-07-26 Thread Kevin Parker

May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the
demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-)

http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall
/


++
Kevin Parker
Advanced Imaging

e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au
w: www.advancedimaging.com.au
m: 0418 815 527

++

http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker



~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346326
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm