Java Keystore... why is it needed for valid certs?

2012-02-13 Thread Bobby Hartsfield

At work, we have a number of 3rd party vendors that we post to with CFHTTP
calls. Unless we add their certificate to the java keystore, the CFHTTP
connections fail. It wasn't a big deal at first, but the more vendors we
support, the more certificates I add... and the more often a certificate is
expiring.

 

It is to the point where I'm updating one certificate or another every month
or two.

 

My question is why do I have to add these certificates to the keystore at
all? They validate fine in a browser (in fact, that is where I always get
the x.50- certificate from... by exporting it through the browser).

 

This is only an issue for vendors that we have to CFHTTP post to; I do not
need to import certificates to support vendors with web services.

 

Is there a better method that wouldn't require updating the keystore
everytime a certificate is renewed?

 

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Bobby Hartsfield

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http://cf4em.com

 




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Re: Java Keystore... why is it needed for valid certs?

2012-02-13 Thread Dave Watts

 My question is why do I have to add these certificates to the keystore at
 all? They validate fine in a browser (in fact, that is where I always get
 the x.50- certificate from... by exporting it through the browser).

The reason they validate fine in a browser is because browsers come
with a pretty large set of root certificates. The JVM does not. My
guess is you could import all of the root certificates from your
browser into your JVM if you really wanted to, and not have to worry
about anything for quite a while.

Now, the fact that browsers come with so many trusted certificates is
actually kind of a problem - when someone misuses a CA cert, it can be
hard to ensure that the cert they fraudulently create isn't trusted by
browsers by default. There isn't really a good universal revocation
process.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Java Keystore... why is it needed for valid certs?

2012-02-13 Thread Bobby Hartsfield

That is more or less what I suspected but wasn't sure. Thanks for the
clarification, Dave.

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Bobby Hartsfield
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:54 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Java Keystore... why is it needed for valid certs?


 My question is why do I have to add these certificates to the keystore at
 all? They validate fine in a browser (in fact, that is where I always get
 the x.50- certificate from... by exporting it through the browser).

The reason they validate fine in a browser is because browsers come
with a pretty large set of root certificates. The JVM does not. My
guess is you could import all of the root certificates from your
browser into your JVM if you really wanted to, and not have to worry
about anything for quite a while.

Now, the fact that browsers come with so many trusted certificates is
actually kind of a problem - when someone misuses a CA cert, it can be
hard to ensure that the cert they fraudulently create isn't trusted by
browsers by default. There isn't really a good universal revocation
process.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.



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