RE: Flash Remoting and CF
OK. Thanks for all the responses. Summary is do NOT try to connect flash directly to a DB. We'll use CF as an intermediate. Although, at this point I'm not exactly sure how to do that. I'll probably be back seeking more advice later, but I'll do some research first. Thanks Everyone... Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301632 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flash Remoting and CF
First, at this point I'd say if you don't use Flex to do this you're a bit crazy. ;-) Your Flash guy can use Flex to handle all the core UI still and still write custom ActionScript or create .swfs that can be used within Flex. There is a vast array of information on how easy it is to talk to ColdFusion from Flex. I'd start here: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/developers/coldfusion/ On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Robert Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. Thanks for all the responses. Summary is do NOT try to connect flash directly to a DB. We'll use CF as an intermediate. Although, at this point I'm not exactly sure how to do that. I'll probably be back seeking more advice later, but I'll do some research first. Thanks Everyone... Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301633 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flash Remoting and CF
Brian Kotek wrote: First, at this point I'd say if you don't use Flex to do this you're a bit crazy. ;-) Your Flash guy can use Flex to handle all the core UI or you can kick your flash guy to the curb ;-) flex is easy enough even cf troglodytes can make good looking UI. seriously though i guess if it's an app, flex is a good tool, if it's a website with scattered flashey bits pieces, maybe flash is a better choice? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301638 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Flash Remoting and CF
Definitely. Use the right tool for the job at hand. It also depends what you're comfortable using and the timeframe of the project. !k -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Remoting and CF Brian Kotek wrote: First, at this point I'd say if you don't use Flex to do this you're a bit crazy. ;-) Your Flash guy can use Flex to handle all the core UI or you can kick your flash guy to the curb ;-) flex is easy enough even cf troglodytes can make good looking UI. seriously though i guess if it's an app, flex is a good tool, if it's a website with scattered flashey bits pieces, maybe flash is a better choice? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301647 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flash Remoting and CF
I don't think Flash does queries. It does as your Flash guy says, send a request and receives responses - that is Flash remoting. So yes, you should write CFCs that Flash will send requests to. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Robert Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're developing a data driven site where the front end will run in Flash. I've written all the admin programs in CF. These handle all the DB updates and ancillary file management. Now we've looking at how to run the queries on the display side (flash). I was expecting the Flash programmer to connect directly to the DB, run queries from inside flash, and use the data to fill the flash page. I thought that was Flash Remoting. The flash programmer, however, wants me to write all the queries in CF pages. He'll pass data to my CF pages, CF will do the queries, and I'll pass back these big chunks of XML data (or strings). To me this seems a bit questionable. If the DB can be queried directly from Flash wouldn't that be more efficient? Anyone have an ideas? Run queries in CF and pass large data chunks into flash OR connect flash to the SQL server (through a web service or something) and run the queries from there? Which is right/best? Thanks, Robert Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301600 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Flash Remoting and CF
I don't think Flash does queries. It does as your Flash guy says, send a request and receives responses - that is Flash remoting. So yes, you should write CFCs that Flash will send requests to. What about this: http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/30638 Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301601 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Flash Remoting and CF
Your Flash guys are correct. Flash cannot run queries directly against the database. It needs middleware such as ColdFusion, PHP, or .NET. Your best bet is to write some CFCs to which Flash can connect. That's true remoting using the AMF protocol. Your application will be faster and more efficient. -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flash Remoting and CF We're developing a data driven site where the front end will run in Flash. I've written all the admin programs in CF. These handle all the DB updates and ancillary file management. Now we've looking at how to run the queries on the display side (flash). I was expecting the Flash programmer to connect directly to the DB, run queries from inside flash, and use the data to fill the flash page. I thought that was Flash Remoting. The flash programmer, however, wants me to write all the queries in CF pages. He'll pass data to my CF pages, CF will do the queries, and I'll pass back these big chunks of XML data (or strings). To me this seems a bit questionable. If the DB can be queried directly from Flash wouldn't that be more efficient? Anyone have an ideas? Run queries in CF and pass large data chunks into flash OR connect flash to the SQL server (through a web service or something) and run the queries from there? Which is right/best? Thanks, Robert Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301602 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flash Remoting and CF
That's the very first solution to get your db on someone's hands. Don't forget, Flash is client side so things will travel trough the wire so you should really avoid to connect directly and use a middle tier to do that job for you. Available ways to get your data: HTTP service to a cfm page that produces XML Webservices Remoting in AMF0 ( Before 7.0.2 ) or Remoting AMF3 ( 7.0.2 or higher ). -- João Fernandes http://www.onflexwithcf.org http://www.riapt.org ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301603 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flash Remoting and CF
What about this: http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/30638 You could do it that way, but IMO doing the database interaction in ColdFusion will make the code more decoupled (less coupled?). If you have your database requests in CFC's, you can also call them from other parts of your application on the server, or via ajax for example. -- Josh - Original Message - From: Robert Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: RE: Flash Remoting and CF I don't think Flash does queries. It does as your Flash guy says, send a request and receives responses - that is Flash remoting. So yes, you should write CFCs that Flash will send requests to. What about this: http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/30638 Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301604 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flash Remoting and CF
On 3/19/08, Robert Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think Flash does queries. It does as your Flash guy says, send a request and receives responses - that is Flash remoting. So yes, you should write CFCs that Flash will send requests to. What about this: http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/30638 Difficult to maintain, not even remotely a COMMON method, and opens a huge host of security issues. The normal route: Flash connects to a coldfusion web service or to a CFC via flash remoting. Coldfusion handles the database queries, and returns it to flash in a form that it can easily manipulate. Changes to the queries don't require recompilation of the flash application, and trust me on this, coldfusion via flash remoting will be *FAR FAR* more reliable than using the above code. *shudder* -- Rick Root New Brian Vander Ark Album, songs in the music player and cool behind the scenes video at www.myspace.com/brianvanderark ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301605 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Flash Remoting and CF
I don't think Flash does queries. It does as your Flash guy says, send a request and receives responses - that is Flash remoting. So yes, you should write CFCs that Flash will send requests to. What about this: http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/30638 What about it? In that article, the author creates a custom Java application that uses JDBC, then uses XMLSocket in Flash to talk to it. Flash is not connecting to a database directly. It's actually possible for Flash to connect directly to a MS SQL Server 2000 database, because you can set up an IIS component (provided by Microsoft) that exposes your database to XML dataset requests. Both of these are horrendously bad ideas, from security and maintenance perspectives. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners http://training.figleaf.com/ WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR developers! http://www.webmaniacsconference.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301618 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flash Remoting with CF MX server ?SOT?
if ur using flash mx 2004 pro its pretty easy just use the xml connector as far as remoting goes i dont believe u need it, i think it comes with the coldfusion server, i think just asp.net and such have to pay. no u can write a cfc with your query and call the cfc in flash can set the resluts as variables and pull them in flash lots of tuts out there mm has a lot www.ultrashock.com www.kirupa.com www.flashcfm.com I'm attempting to learn how to do dynamic textual content loaded into a Flash MX site I'm creating. I know how to send Flash form data to CF for processing, but I'm lost withpulling data into Flash (Like a list of corporate contacts, their email and phone info, grouped bydepartment)... I was going to go use LoadVars then someone said use XML files, so I started learning how to create compliant XML files with CF MX... then I saw the (to me) completelyINANE code I'd need to teach myself in order to properly parse the XML file inside Flash... THEN I was being led by the Flash community that the best way is Flash Remoting, but I ain't got the $1,000 for the remoting software... AND I'm doing this site on the same boxas the CF server and the database (Small site on a shared server)... Do I need to use remoting software?(Rather than using cluge-y loadvars,loadvariables or XML parsing)? DOES CF MX Server come with remoting? Can anyone please provide me an example of how to implement this if it does? Fields I need to loop through: Department ContactName ContactTitle ContactPhone ContactEmail These need to be grouped by Department and then get posted onto a dynamictext movie clip so I can format them and make the email clickable... Thanks for any help At 08:04 PM 1/23/04, you wrote: I just finished a very basic coldfusion eclipse plug-in. The syntax highlighting and code completion are so-so, but better then nothing. It works on Mac, Linux, and Windows (with jre1.4) to activate code completion type cf and it will show all the cfmx tags (the attribute part works from time to time - bad rule somewhere), and after you type a function it'll tell you the syntax for the function - cooler still it'll actually tell you the return type :) To install the plug-in do the following (after you download eclipse of course http://eclipse.org):http://eclipse.org): 1. Go to Help/Software Updates/Update Manager 2. In the lower left box (marked Feature Update) right click (control click on Mac) select new then site bookmark 3. add Name: cfeclipse URL:http://cfeclipse.rohanclan.com click finish 4. that should have added a new item to the tree. In the tree, open the cfeclipse, then Other, then click on com.rohanclan.coldfusion-feature 5. in the preview window (upper right) it should now list the plug-in details - click the button that says install now. When it's all done the framework will want to restart. After it has, the new plug-in will be associated with cfm, cfml, and cfc files. Just open any of those files and the plug-in will kick in. There is nothing fancy about the plug-in just yet - its just the editor. It only does syntax highlighting and code completion (mostly anyway), but hopefully as time allows it will do more. I am waiting for sourceforge.net to give me a project space and I'll up load the code, if anyone wants to help they are more than welcome. I am doing it under LGPL. Cheers -- Vale, Rob Luxuria immodica insaniam creat. Sanam formam viatae conservate! http://www.rohanclan.comhttp://www.rohanclan.com http://treebeard.sourceforge.net http://ashpool.sourceforge.nethttp://ashpool.sourceforge.net -- [ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Flash Remoting with CF MX server ?SOT?
I was going to go use LoadVars then someone said use XML files, so I started learning how to create compliant XML files with CF MX... then I saw the (to me) completely INANE code I'd need to teach myself in order to properly parse the XML file inside Flash... While it might strike you as inane, this is typically how XML parsing is done using DOM parsers, so if you learn it within Flash you'll be better prepared for working with XML in many other environments. The DOM API is pretty common. Compared to using CF, I agree it's pretty complex though. DOES CF MX Server come with remoting? Yes, CFMX and JRun both come with Flash Remoting. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Flash Remoting to CF
I think that's for ASP.NET and PHP only. CF comes with Flash Remoting built in. I have Flash MX 2004 PRO and I can use Flash Remoting with no problems. Ben -Original Message- From: Mark Leder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flash Remoting to CF Hi all, Was doing research on remoting vs xml etc.Discovered that in Flash 2004 MX pro, I'd have to buy a connector kit for $1,000 per CPU in order to make it work.Any other ideas on Flash Remoting, or do I need to do query to XML conversions?Am I missing something? Thanks, Mark _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Flash Remoting to CF
If you're running ColdFusion MX or greater, you already have the capability to do remoting - it's built in to the server.Macromedia sells a .NET version, and that is where the cost per CPU comes in. If you need a php or java version, check out http://amfphp.org/ and http://www.openamf.org Remoting rocks over XML.Just look at the performance test results in MXDJ. -d - Original Message - From: Mark Leder To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Flash Remoting to CF Hi all, Was doing research on remoting vs xml etc.Discovered that in Flash 2004 MX pro, I'd have to buy a connector kit for $1,000 per CPU in order to make it work.Any other ideas on Flash Remoting, or do I need to do query to XML conversions?Am I missing something? Thanks, Mark [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Flash Remoting to CF
Yes, I have CFMX 6.1 installed on the production server.I thought something looked screwy.Thanks for your advice. BTW: where's this performance test results in MXDJ?URL? Thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: Darron J. Schall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Remoting to CF If you're running ColdFusion MX or greater, you already have the capability to do remoting - it's built in to the server.Macromedia sells a .NET version, and that is where the cost per CPU comes in. If you need a php or java version, check out http://amfphp.org/ and http://www.openamf.org Remoting rocks over XML.Just look at the performance test results in MXDJ. -d - Original Message - From: Mark Leder To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Flash Remoting to CF Hi all, Was doing research on remoting vs xml etc.Discovered that in Flash 2004 MX pro, I'd have to buy a connector kit for $1,000 per CPU in order to make it work.Any other ideas on Flash Remoting, or do I need to do query to XML conversions?Am I missing something? Thanks, Mark _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Flash Remoting to CF
The article can be found by clicking around on sys-con's mxdj page magazine:http://www.sys-con.com/mx/ article: http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=37919DE=1#RES I highly suggest getting a print copy - the results are shown as charts which don't seem to be viewable in the online version of the article. -d - Original Message - From: Mark Leder To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Flash Remoting to CF Yes, I have CFMX 6.1 installed on the production server.I thought something looked screwy.Thanks for your advice. BTW: where's this performance test results in MXDJ?URL? Thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: Darron J. Schall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Remoting to CF If you're running ColdFusion MX or greater, you already have the capability to do remoting - it's built in to the server.Macromedia sells a .NET version, and that is where the cost per CPU comes in. If you need a php or java version, check out http://amfphp.org/ and http://www.openamf.org Remoting rocks over XML.Just look at the performance test results in MXDJ. -d [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Flash Remoting to CF
I'm not even sure why they bothered to run this.I'm sure the situation will change once the memory leak is fixed. - Original Message - From: Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:35 pm Subject: Re: Flash Remoting to CF The article can be found by clicking around on sys-con's mxdj page magazine:http://www.sys-con.com/mx/ article: http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=37919DE=1#RES I highly suggest getting a print copy - the results are shown as charts which don't seem to be viewable in the online version of the article. -d - Original Message - From: Mark Leder To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Flash Remoting to CF Yes, I have CFMX 6.1 installed on the production server.I thought something looked screwy.Thanks for your advice. BTW: where's this performance test results in MXDJ?URL? Thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Remoting to CF If you're running ColdFusion MX or greater, you already have the capabilityto do remoting - it's built in to the server. Macromedia sells a .NET version, and that is where the cost per CPU comes in. If you need a php or java version, check out http://amfphp.org/ and http://www.openamf.org Remoting rocks over XML.Just look at the performance test results in MXDJ. -d [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Flash Remoting to CF
While the memory leak is part of the slower performance of SOAP vs. Flash-Remoting, it's not the only reason.Did you read the last few lines? The SOAP approach results in larger payloads and greater CPU processing, resulting from the XML Schema validation and XML parsing. The Flash Remoting approach benefits from a binary representation of request/response as well as the invocation- batching feature. For any application that requires moderate to high remote invocation volume and/or that involves complex data types and large arrays, Flash Remoting is a better fit. Because remoting uses AMF (ActionScript Message Format), which is a binary protocol, Flash Remoting will always be faster and less memory intensive than text-heavy xml data.Memory leak or not. -d - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Flash Remoting to CF I'm not even sure why they bothered to run this.I'm sure the situation will change once the memory leak is fixed. - Original Message - From: Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:35 pm Subject: Re: Flash Remoting to CF The article can be found by clicking around on sys-con's mxdj page magazine:http://www.sys-con.com/mx/ article: http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=37919DE=1#RES I highly suggest getting a print copy - the results are shown as charts which don't seem to be viewable in the online version of the article. -d [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Flash Remoting to CF
But the test results are totally spurious.What the hell's the point of running a benchmark if we know that one the contestants is totally broken? Besides, I'm sure the memory usage chart (useless as it is) won't have web services consuming every byte of memory like it does now once the leak is fixed. - Original Message - From: Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:08 pm Subject: Re: Flash Remoting to CF While the memory leak is part of the slower performance of SOAP vs. Flash-Remoting, it's not the only reason.Did you read the last few lines? The SOAP approach results in larger payloads and greater CPU processing, resulting from the XML Schema validation and XML parsing. The Flash Remoting approach benefits from a binary representation of request/response as well as the invocation- batching feature. For any application that requires moderate to high remote invocation volume and/or that involves complex data types and large arrays, Flash Remoting is a better fit. Because remoting uses AMF (ActionScript Message Format), which is a binary protocol, Flash Remoting will always be faster and less memory intensive than text-heavy xml data.Memory leak or not. -d - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Flash Remoting to CF I'm not even sure why they bothered to run this.I'm sure the situation will change once the memory leak is fixed. - Original Message - From: Darron J. Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:35 pm Subject: Re: Flash Remoting to CF The article can be found by clicking around on sys-con's mxdj page magazine:http://www.sys-con.com/mx/ article: http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=37919DE=1#RES I highly suggest getting a print copy - the results are shown as charts which don't seem to be viewable in the online version of the article. -d [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Flash remoting and CF question
If you want to use CF to generate this data for flash, then no, you'd have to go CFMX. The remoting for Java is a server-side utility that helps expose java classes as available remoting services. HTH Stace -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flash remoting and CF question Hi all, I'm a bit confused here, so bear with me. We're running a CF 5.0 server. We want to do some data-generated Flash. My initial thought was that we had to set up a new CF MX 6.1 box (I don't want to migrate all of the sites on the current server) and that would let us use Flash Remoting. However, it looks like there's a separate Flash Remoting Windows Java kit - can I just install that on the existing 5.0 box? What am I missing? Thanks, Ian Portent Interactive An Internet Marketing Agency http://www.portentinteractive.com http://www.searchengineoptimization.cc ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash remoting and CF question
I'm a bit confused here, so bear with me. We're running a CF 5.0 server. We want to do some data-generated Flash. My initial thought was that we had to set up a new CF MX 6.1 box (I don't want to migrate all of the sites on the current server) and that would let us use Flash Remoting. However, it looks like there's a separate Flash Remoting Windows Java kit - can I just install that on the existing 5.0 box? What am I missing? You'll only be able to use Flash Remoting for Java if you have a J2EE application server installed on the machine, and in that case, you won't be able to integrate Flash Remoting with your CF code very easily. So, yes, you probably want to go with CFMX 6.1 for what you're trying to do. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: Flash Remoting w/CF
I am glad to hear some data on this. I've been wondering how much data one of these RIA thingys can tolerate. I haven't messed with this yet, but I did read some code that 'paginates' the recodrset somehow so that the Flash thingy only holds n rows from an m row query at a time. I saw this at devcon...but alas I can't find the paper at the moment. Doug -Original Message- From: Frank Mamone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flash Remoting w/CF We've been experimenting with Flash Remoting and MX and found that the performance is a little slow. We are using a CFC to get a recordset of about 700 and populating a combobox with it. Is there any known performance issues with Flash Remoting and where can I read about them. Thanks, Frank ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Flash Remoting w/CF
The variable is pagesize and it's passed from the flash movie to the called cfc or CF page. Here's a doc snippet: Returning records in increments to Flash ColdFusion lets you return record set results to Flash in increments. For example, if a query returns 20 records, you can set the Flash.Pagesize variable to return five records at a time to Flash. Incremental record sets lets you minimize the time that Flash application waits for the application server data to load. To create a ColdFusion page that returns a incremental record set to Flash: 1 Create a ColdFusion page, and save it as getData.cfm in the helloExamples directory. 2 Modify getData.cfm so that the code appears as follows: cfparam name=pagesize default=10 cfif IsDefined(Flash.Params) cfset pagesize = Flash.Params[1] /cfif cfquery name=myQuery datasource=ExampleApps SELECT * FROM tblParks /cfquery cfset Flash.Pagesize = pagesize cfset Flash.Result = myQuery -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting w/CF I am glad to hear some data on this. I've been wondering how much data one of these RIA thingys can tolerate. I haven't messed with this yet, but I did read some code that 'paginates' the recodrset somehow so that the Flash thingy only holds n rows from an m row query at a time. I saw this at devcon...but alas I can't find the paper at the moment. Doug -Original Message- From: Frank Mamone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flash Remoting w/CF We've been experimenting with Flash Remoting and MX and found that the performance is a little slow. We are using a CFC to get a recordset of about 700 and populating a combobox with it. Is there any known performance issues with Flash Remoting and where can I read about them. Thanks, Frank ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Flash Remoting with CF
do you want the data from a partcular column? i.e. var rowNumber = 0; var record = rs.getItemAt(rowNumber); mystring = # + record.FNAME + # + record.LNAME + # + record.EMPID + #; i haven't tested that, so there may be some errors. does that do what you are trying to do? mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Frank Mamone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT:Flash Remoting with CF Hi, I got through the basics of Flash Remoting. The server comes back with a recordset, however I don't want to bind it to a control with DataGlue. I simply need to build a string using three of the column values. I want to do this: mystring = #FNAME##LNAME##EMPID# Thanks Frank Mamone. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting with CF
I am passing a struct back instead of a recordset from CF...it works great and is easy to do. building a string should be straight forward in AS with whatever you are passing back from CF... something like this: myString = fname + ' ' + lname + ' ' + empid; // with spaces in between fields HTH, Josh Trefethen http://exciteworks.com -Original Message- From: Frank Mamone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 12:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT:Flash Remoting with CF Hi, I got through the basics of Flash Remoting. The server comes back with a recordset, however I don't want to bind it to a control with DataGlue. I simply need to build a string using three of the column values. I want to do this: mystring = #FNAME##LNAME##EMPID# Thanks Frank Mamone. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
