RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-16 Thread Angel Stewart
Wish I could say the same :(

The problems with CFMX not updating the jrun-resources.xml file caused
us downtime with our Ablecommerce customers (which uses
JRUN-resources.xml). 

Issues with query of queries code would have also forced us to rewrite
sections of code for about four websites, and the issue with the
CFINSERT and CFUPDATE also hit a lot of our earlier work.

So on our production side I haven't been able to see the benefit of
Redsky, and that is where we would have benefitted the most from the
increased speed and CFMAIL enhancements I'm sure. 

So..waiting on a few more 'hot fixes' before we put it live.

-Angel

-Original Message-
From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Just got notification from Macromedia this morning -- a hotfix has been
released -- Technote 18833. See:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/missing_userna
me.htm

Warm thanks go out to the folks at Macromedia: (in alphabetical order)
grin

Camille Batarekh
Larry Cassese 
Damon Cooper
Debbie Dickerson
Tom Donovan 
Sherman Gong 
Christine Lawson
Collin Tobin

CFMX 6.1 has, quite honestly, re-invigorated me as regards the future of
CF! 

Cheers,

...David 


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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-15 Thread Debbie Dickerson
The fix for this issue is now available in TechNote 18833: 
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/missing_username.htm



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.


We're on it.  The issue number is #53257 for reference.  I have it with an engineer 
now.

Well -- Macromedia has acknowledged it as a bug -- from my Forums 
postings and my back and forths with Christine Lawson @ MM, please 
see: 

http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.
cfm?catid=6threadid=670585

The summary:

SNIP
We've reproduced your issue and it has been entered as bug 53257. Just 
an fyi.. more to come and I'll keep you in the loop. 
/SNIP

Rejoice. It's been recognized as a bug. Hopefully a quick-fix will be 
forthcoming ASAP.

...
David

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Re: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread Jochem van Dieten
David Schmidt wrote:
 
 We are experiencing similar weirdness with CFMX 6.1 and MS Access DSNs -- but ONLY 
 when the datasources are passworded and passed username/password at runtime (in the 
 tag). Strip away the database password in the MDB, set default username in the CFMX 
 administrator datasource admin and the errors go away. There appears to be a CFMX 
 6.1 - SequelLink - ODBC issue.

Have you tried the unicode drivers?


 Who do we report this to at Macromedia?

http://www.macromedia.com/support/contact/

Jochem



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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread Angel Stewart
There is a list of Redsky Known issues here
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/mx61_known_
problems.html

Although I don't see the CFINSERT and CFUPDATE problems mentioned
specifically.

-Angel


-Original Message-
From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Jochem wrote:

Have you tried the unicode drivers?
No, not yet...Do you think it will make a difference?

 Who do we report this to at Macromedia?
http://www.macromedia.com/support/contact/
Thanks. :)

...David

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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread Angel Stewart
Yes.
That's all well and good.

However...two tags which are very commonly used in application design,
were working before the update...and are not working now.

You can't expect us to change code..both which we have written in the
past, or which clients that we host have written to NOT use CFINSERT and
CFUPDATE because of applying Redsky.

So...there is a problem.
And I'm wondering if anyone has found a fix to it, because it doesn't
seem that we're the only ones experiencing this.

-Gel

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Hi Angel,

Didn't we discuss this in another forum (i.e. the overall value of these
tags in CFMX; the question being have they grown up and are ready for
widespread use)?  I recall saying in one of those posts that these tags
blackbox your sql and return unhelpful error messages, making them too
much trouble to mess with (among other cited weaknesses).

My opinion, which I know some disagree with, remains that this is a tool
only suited for beginners who don't know sql yet.  More often than not
if you try to use it past that level you'll find that what you thought
was a time-saving feature just isn't, given the extra time you have to
take dealing with stuff like your current problem cropping up out of
nowhere, or gymnastics necessary to input a limited field set, copy vars
to the form scope etc. etc.  

If you write real sql you will be done with it forever, unless you
change your own app.


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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread Christine Lawson
Sure, you can e-mail it to me - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this the case with you as well 
Angel, using an Access database with passwords? I'm just trying to understand what the 
actual problem is. Angel's first post states:
Hey all,

We are still having issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE after installing Redsky. 

We uninstalled and reinstalled Coldfusion MX 6.1 after our first install attempt 
produced these errors. 

The system was updated to MDAC 2.7. 

We then installed CFMX and then applied the Redsky update.

However, our sites still give errors when using CFINSERT and CFUPDATE tags. 

Any suggestions as to what the problem could be?

-Angel

But I don' see what the error is or a description of what is actully happening...

Thanks!
Christine

-Original Message-
From: Christine Lawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.


I was reading through this thread but I don't see the error message. Can someone post 
sample code (against cfsnippets) that produces the error and the actual error text?

Thanks!
Christine

-Original Message-
From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.


Yes I do.

With Ablecommerce as well.
I think there is a workaround for Able, but I'm having trouble accessing their support 
site. I don't know if the workaround would help with my CFINSERT and CFUPDATE issues.

I am going through one particular application and manually changing the insert/update 
statements now though. 

-Angel


-Original Message-
From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Are you still have the same issues, Angel?





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Re: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread Jochem van Dieten
David Schmidt wrote:
 Jochem wrote:
 
Have you tried the unicode drivers?
 
 No, not yet...Do you think it will make a difference?

I haven't had any issues with them. (And not because I didn't use 
them like with all ODBC drivers. ODBC + MX = evil)

Besides, it is something you can test within 2 minutes :-)

Jochem



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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread Angel Stewart
Yes I do.

With Ablecommerce as well.
I think there is a workaround for Able, but I'm having trouble accessing
their support site.
I don't know if the workaround would help with my CFINSERT and CFUPDATE
issues.

I am going through one particular application and manually changing the
insert/update statements now though. 

-Angel


-Original Message-
From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Are you still have the same issues, Angel?



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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread Mark W. Breneman
Hey IF a patch is written for 6.1 to fix this password / Access issue
on cfupdate and cfinsert could the Primary Key / cfupdate issue also
be address?

 

Error message:

The field ID, was not found in the Form input. This field is required
in order to do an UPDATE because it is part of the primary key for the
tablename table.

http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=3
http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/messageview.cfm?catid=3thre
adid=380672 threadid=380672

 

When using the formfields attribute in the cfupdate tag the primary key
must also be listed in the formfields attribute or else error will be
generated. This issue was introduced in CF MX.  CF 5 and earlier had no
problems.  I think it is a poor practice to update the primary key even,
if it is with the same value.

 

Code Example:
cfset form.recordid=2

cfset form.MailList=2

 

cfupdate datasource==data tablename=MailListLog
formfields=MailList

 

Result error: 
Primary key field RECORDID, not found.

The field RECORDID, was not found in the Form input. This field is
required in order to do an UPDATE because it is part of the primary key
for the MailListLog table.

 

Work around code:

cfset form.recordid=2

cfset form.MailList=2

 

cfupdate datasource==data tablename=MailListLog
formfields=recordid ,MailList

 

 

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com http://www.vividmedia.com/ 
  608.270.9770

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Christine Lawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

 

I was reading through this thread but I don't see the error message. Can
someone post sample code (against cfsnippets) that produces the error
and the actual error text?

 

Thanks!

Christine

 

-Original Message-

From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:21 AM

To: CF-Talk

Subject: RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

 

 

Yes I do.

 

With Ablecommerce as well.

I think there is a workaround for Able, but I'm having trouble accessing
their support site. I don't know if the workaround would help with my
CFINSERT and CFUPDATE issues.

 

I am going through one particular application and manually changing the
insert/update statements now though. 

 

-Angel

 

 

-Original Message-

From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

Are you still have the same issues, Angel?

 

 

 

 


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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread Matt Robertson
Hi Angel,

Didn't we discuss this in another forum (i.e. the overall value of these
tags in CFMX; the question being have they grown up and are ready for
widespread use)?  I recall saying in one of those posts that these tags
blackbox your sql and return unhelpful error messages, making them too
much trouble to mess with (among other cited weaknesses).

My opinion, which I know some disagree with, remains that this is a tool
only suited for beginners who don't know sql yet.  More often than not
if you try to use it past that level you'll find that what you thought
was a time-saving feature just isn't, given the extra time you have to
take dealing with stuff like your current problem cropping up out of
nowhere, or gymnastics necessary to input a limited field set, copy vars
to the form scope etc. etc.  

If you write real sql you will be done with it forever, unless you
change your own app.


 Matt Robertson   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 MSB Designs, Inc.  http://mysecretbase.com


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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread Angel Stewart
*chuckle*

The Red Sky was the websites blowing up..

^_^
Hee hee hee

*ahem*

0_0

-Gel



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Re: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread cf-talk
My recommendation (which I'm sure many will agree) would be to get rid of
your CFUPDATEs and CFINSERTs and use SQL expressions (CFQUERY) instead.
Also be sure to use the CFQUERYPARAM tag in your CFQUERY statements.

Maybe not the answer you were looking for... but it WILL fix your
problem(s).

-Novak

- Original Message - 
From: Angel Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:52 AM
Subject: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.


 Hey all,

 We are still having issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE after installing
 Redsky.

 We uninstalled and reinstalled Coldfusion MX 6.1 after our first install
 attempt produced these errors.

 The system was updated to MDAC 2.7.

 We then installed CFMX and then applied the Redsky update.

 However, our sites still give errors when using CFINSERT and CFUPDATE
 tags.

 Any suggestions as to what the problem could be?

 -Angel


 
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Re: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread jonhall
A little late, but after all the posts...I still didn't see an error
or any code. The issue appear to be that cfinsert/cfupdate are ignoring
the username/password parameters altogether.

cfinsert datasource=test
  tablename=tbl
  dbtype=ODBC
  username=test
  password=test
  formfields=#form.test1#, #form.test2#

Error thrown is:
[Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][SequeLink Server]Required user name is missing.

A cfquery statement against this dsn works as expected.

-- 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Monday, August 11, 2003, 11:59:05 AM, you wrote:

CL I was reading through this thread but I don't see the error message. Can someone 
post sample code (against cfsnippets) that produces the error and the actual error 
text?

CL Thanks!
CL Christine

CL -Original Message-
CL From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
CL Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:21 AM
CL To: CF-Talk
CL Subject: RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.


CL Yes I do.

CL With Ablecommerce as well.
CL I think there is a workaround for Able, but I'm having trouble accessing their 
support site. I don't know if the workaround would help with my CFINSERT and CFUPDATE 
issues.

CL I am going through one particular application and manually changing the 
insert/update statements now though. 

CL -Angel


CL -Original Message-
CL From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

CL Are you still have the same issues, Angel?




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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-14 Thread Christine Lawson
I was reading through this thread but I don't see the error message. Can someone post 
sample code (against cfsnippets) that produces the error and the actual error text?

Thanks!
Christine

-Original Message-
From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.


Yes I do.

With Ablecommerce as well.
I think there is a workaround for Able, but I'm having trouble accessing their support 
site. I don't know if the workaround would help with my CFINSERT and CFUPDATE issues.

I am going through one particular application and manually changing the insert/update 
statements now though. 

-Angel


-Original Message-
From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Are you still have the same issues, Angel?




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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-11 Thread Mark W. Breneman
Can anyone shed some light on what the 'problems' are with cfinsert and
cfupdate not working with 6.1? I must be missing an email or two. 

Is anyone having problems with MS SQL 2000 and 6.1 cfupdate and
cfinsert? Other then the problem that CF 6.0 introduced with cfupdate,
requiring the key field to be required in the list of fields to up date.
(Dumb problem) I knew I should have tested the beta of red sky. I had it
sitting on my desk but, no time to test the cfupdate and inserts.  Drat.

Recoding 70-90 sites that we have written over the past 5 years using
cfupdate and cfinsert, is not an option at this time. 

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
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RE: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-11 Thread Mark W. Breneman
Is it a BUG??? Bug: A defect or difficulty, as in a system or design. A
defect in the code or routine of a program.

Well, it is an inconsistency at very least between cf5 and MX that cost
us about 16 hours of development time to fix the problem on 50 - 70
sites when we moved to MX. This issue is not address in the MX docs
other then a live doc rant about the issue 'er ah bug.

I guess I will call it a BUG until it is fixed or someone bigger then me
tells me other wise. :-)

Mark W. Breneman
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

Mark W. Breneman wrote:

Hey IF a patch is written for 6.1 to fix this password / Access issue
on cfupdate and cfinsert could the Primary Key / cfupdate issue also
be address?
I can't speak for Macromedia -- I'm doing my best to document and
explain the issue to them. I doubt that the primary key issue is
considered a bug per se...

...D

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Re: Redsky-Still issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE.

2003-08-10 Thread jonhall
I just tested cfupdate on our 6.1 machine, and it worked, using an
ODBC Socket DSN. What is the error, and type of DSN?

While moving to cfquery would be wonderful...sometimes it just isn't
worth the effort to rewrite a ton of legacy code. We have a zillion
little admins written years ago that used the Studio Data Entry
Wizard, which to this day, still uses cfinsert/cfupdate...

-- 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sunday, August 10, 2003, 9:52:40 AM, you wrote:

AS Hey all,

AS We are still having issues with CFINSERT and CFUPDATE after installing
AS Redsky. 

AS We uninstalled and reinstalled Coldfusion MX 6.1 after our first install
AS attempt produced these errors. 

AS The system was updated to MDAC 2.7. 

AS We then installed CFMX and then applied the Redsky update.

AS However, our sites still give errors when using CFINSERT and CFUPDATE
AS tags. 

AS Any suggestions as to what the problem could be?

AS -Angel


AS 
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