Re: Subversion Software

[Eric Roberts]

Cool...I did not know that.  Thanks Jason!  I will have to check that out and 
see how it compares with CollabNet's Edge package.

>No, there is a VisualSVN plugin for Visual Studio, but the same folks also 
>make a VisualSVN Server package that is a one-step install on Windows 
>server and is kept up to date with SVN patches etc.  Very good, and free to 
>boot.
>
>
>http://www.visualsvn.com/server/
>
>Isn't Visual SVN for Visual studio only?  Subversive and Subclipse are 2 
>good plugins for Eclipse users.
>
>Tortoise is free period ;-)  All three work great whether it's corporate of 
>personal.
>
>Eric
>wrote: 

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Re: Subversion Software

[Jason Fisher]

Yep, same here.



From: "Rick Root" 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:35 PM
To: "cf-talk" 
Subject: Re: Subversion Software

That's why I use VisualSVN SERVER and TortoiseSVN CLIENT =)

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Eric Roberts
 wrote:
>
> That's exactly why i use tortoise...*grin*
>
>>> I like VisualSVN because I'm lazy and windows based =)
>>>
>>> http://www.visualsvn.com/server/
>>
>>and it's free and super easy to install/setup.
>>
>>Rick
>
> 



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Re: Subversion Software

[Rick Root]

That's why I use VisualSVN SERVER and TortoiseSVN CLIENT =)

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Eric Roberts
 wrote:
>
> That's exactly why i use tortoise...*grin*
>
>>> I like VisualSVN because I'm lazy and windows based =)
>>>
>>> http://www.visualsvn.com/server/
>>
>>and it's free and super easy to install/setup.
>>
>>Rick
>
> 

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Re: Subversion Software

[Jason Fisher]

No, there is a VisualSVN plugin for Visual Studio, but the same folks also 
make a VisualSVN Server package that is a one-step install on Windows 
server and is kept up to date with SVN patches etc.  Very good, and free to 
boot.


http://www.visualsvn.com/server/



From: "Eric Roberts" 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:08 PM
To: "cf-talk" 
Subject: Re: Subversion Software

Isn't Visual SVN for Visual studio only?  Subversive and Subclipse are 2 
good plugins for Eclipse users.

Tortoise is free period ;-)  All three work great whether it's corporate of 
personal.

Eric
>+1 for Visual SVN for corporate applications.
>
>+1 for Unfuddle for free ad-hoc projects.
>
>Greg
>
>
>On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Jochem van Dieten 
wrote:
>
>> 



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Re: Subversion Software

[Eric Roberts]

That's exactly why i use tortoise...*grin*

>> I like VisualSVN because I'm lazy and windows based =)
>>
>> http://www.visualsvn.com/server/
>
>and it's free and super easy to install/setup.
>
>Rick 

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Re: Subversion Software

[Eric Roberts]

Isn't Visual SVN for Visual studio only?  Subversive and Subclipse are 2 good 
plugins for Eclipse users.

Tortoise is free period ;-)  All three work great whether it's corporate of 
personal.

Eric
>+1 for Visual SVN for corporate applications.
>
>+1 for Unfuddle for free ad-hoc projects.
>
>Greg
>
>
>On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>
>> 

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Re: Subversion Software

[Eric Roberts]

We are using TortoiseSVN aqnd Subversive on the client side.  I like 
both...Tortoise can be faster than Subversive in some cases and it has a few 
more features you can acess via the drop down menu.  I have been using the 
Collabnet SVN Edge and they have a new web interface to manage users and repos 
that makes it pretty easy.

>Tortoise SVN here as well ..
>
>I've had some odd issues with the icons (on local drives) since going
>to Windows 7, like icons not updating right away when I commit
>stuff...  but that's pretty minor.
>
>Rick
>
>
>On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Jas
>>
>> TortoiseSVN is pretty solid, although I've had to turn off the icon
>> overlays on mapped network drives, just to improve Explorer performance. 

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Re: Subversion Software

[Rick Root]

Tortoise SVN here as well ..

I've had some odd issues with the icons (on local drives) since going
to Windows 7, like icons not updating right away when I commit
stuff...  but that's pretty minor.

Rick


On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Jason Fisher  wrote:
>
> TortoiseSVN is pretty solid, although I've had to turn off the icon
> overlays on mapped network drives, just to improve Explorer performance.

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RE: Subversion Software

[Jason Fisher]

TortoiseSVN is pretty solid, although I've had to turn off the icon 
overlays on mapped network drives, just to improve Explorer performance.



From: "Paul Alkema" 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:32 AM
To: "cf-talk" 
Subject: RE: Subversion Software

What do you all use to manage your svn on the client side? IE; 
tortoiseSvn,
Dreamweaver, subeclipse?

-Original Message-
From: enigment [mailto:enigm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:46 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Subversion Software

+1 VisualSVN

Dave



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RE: Subversion Software

[Andrew Scott]

I actually found that collabNet to be and easy and cheaper than visualSVN.

Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/


> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2010 11:16 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Subversion Software
> 
> 
> +1 for Visual SVN for corporate applications.
> 
> +1 for Unfuddle for free ad-hoc projects.
> 
> Greg
> 


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RE: Subversion Software

[Paul Alkema]

What do you all use to manage your svn on the client side? IE; tortoiseSvn,
Dreamweaver, subeclipse?

-Original Message-
From: enigment [mailto:enigm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:46 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Subversion Software


+1 VisualSVN

Dave



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Re: Subversion Software

[Greg Luce]

+1 for Visual SVN for corporate applications.

+1 for Unfuddle for free ad-hoc projects.

Greg


On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:

>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Paul Alkema wrote:
> > I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what types of
> > subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use to
> > manage it?
>
> Apache, SVN + Apache bindings, WebDAV. Everything is managed through vi :)
>
> Jochem
>
> --
> Jochem van Dieten
> http://jochem.vandieten.net/
>
> 

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Re: Subversion Software

[enigment]

+1 VisualSVN

Dave

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RE: Subversion Software

[Will Swain]

Just to throw it into the mix, we've been using this lot:

http://repositoryhosting.com/

very reasonable price wise, and reliable. 


-Original Message-
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 October 2010 22:04
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Subversion Software


>> Assembla.com is just one of many.

2 gig free? Schweet. I am pretty close to pegging my free unfuddle accounts.

Nice call. Thanx Wil!

G!

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> I have a simple Linux server with Apache and the WebDav mod installed.
>
> Centos or Ubuntu Server will let you do this very easily.  Otherwise, if
> you want a simple cheap full featured solution, including wiki, trak,
> ticketing, etc, try one of the many free or cheap hosted solutions.
>
>
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Oct 13, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Paul Alkema wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what types
of
> > subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use to
> > manage it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul Alkema
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 



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Re: Subversion Software

[Jochem van Dieten]

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Paul Alkema wrote:
> I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what types of
> subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use to
> manage it?

Apache, SVN + Apache bindings, WebDAV. Everything is managed through vi :)

Jochem

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Re: Subversion Software

[Gerald Guido]

>> Assembla.com is just one of many.

2 gig free? Schweet. I am pretty close to pegging my free unfuddle accounts.

Nice call. Thanx Wil!

G!

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> I have a simple Linux server with Apache and the WebDav mod installed.
>
> Centos or Ubuntu Server will let you do this very easily.  Otherwise, if
> you want a simple cheap full featured solution, including wiki, trak,
> ticketing, etc, try one of the many free or cheap hosted solutions.
>
>
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Oct 13, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Paul Alkema wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what types of
> > subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use to
> > manage it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul Alkema
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: Subversion Software

[Nick Gleason]

Hi there.  Codesion (used to be cvs dude) has worked well for us over the
years.

Nick



> -Original Message-
> From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:22 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Subversion Software
> 
> 
> +1 VisualSVN
> 
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Wil Genovese 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I have a simple Linux server with Apache and the WebDav mod
> installed.
> >
> > Centos or Ubuntu Server will let you do this very easily.  Otherwise,
> if
> > you want a simple cheap full featured solution, including wiki, trak,
> > ticketing, etc, try one of the many free or cheap hosted solutions.
> >
> > Assembla.com is just one of many.
> >
> > Wil Genovese
> > Sr. Web Application Developer/
> > Systems Administrator
> >
> > wilg...@trunkful.com
> > www.trunkful.com
> >
> > On Oct 13, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Paul Alkema wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hey All,
> > >
> > > I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what
> types of
> > > subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use
> to
> > > manage it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Alkema
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: Subversion Software

[John M Bliss]

+1 VisualSVN

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> I have a simple Linux server with Apache and the WebDav mod installed.
>
> Centos or Ubuntu Server will let you do this very easily.  Otherwise, if
> you want a simple cheap full featured solution, including wiki, trak,
> ticketing, etc, try one of the many free or cheap hosted solutions.
>
> Assembla.com is just one of many.
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Oct 13, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Paul Alkema wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what types of
> > subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use to
> > manage it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul Alkema
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Subversion Software

[Wil Genovese]

I have a simple Linux server with Apache and the WebDav mod installed.

Centos or Ubuntu Server will let you do this very easily.  Otherwise, if you 
want a simple cheap full featured solution, including wiki, trak, ticketing, 
etc, try one of the many free or cheap hosted solutions.

Assembla.com is just one of many.

Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator

wilg...@trunkful.com
www.trunkful.com

On Oct 13, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Paul Alkema wrote:

> 
> Hey All,
> 
> I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what types of
> subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use to
> manage it?
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Alkema
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Subversion Software

[Rick Root]

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Rick Root  wrote:
> I like VisualSVN because I'm lazy and windows based =)
>
> http://www.visualsvn.com/server/

and it's free and super easy to install/setup.

Rick

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Re: Subversion Software

[Eric Cobb]

1998 model Dell Dimension, Pentium III with 750MB RAM and Apache.  Works 
great.  :)

Thanks,

Eric Cobb
ECAR Technologies, LLC
http://www.ecartech.com
http://www.cfgears.com



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> Hey All,
>
> I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what types of
> subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use to
> manage it?
>
>  
>
> Paul Alkema
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Subversion Software

[Rick Root]

I like VisualSVN because I'm lazy and windows based =)

http://www.visualsvn.com/server/


On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Paul Alkema
 wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
> I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what types of
> subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use to
> manage it?
>
>
>
> Paul Alkema
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Subversion Software

[David McGraw]

Honestly, save your self a ton of headache and worry and go with Beanstalk.
It's a hosted solution, for something like 15$ a month, allow a ton of
repositories, a super easy one click release and management interface on the
web... And I do not work for them, it's just a much better solution than
worrying about maintaining your own server.  http://www.beanstalkapp.com/

Regards,
David McGraw
Oyova Software, LLC 
Website Help, Design, and Development 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Paul Alkema wrote:

>
> Hey All,
>
> I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what types of
> subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use to
> manage it?
>
>
>
> Paul Alkema
>
>
>
> 

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