Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message âelement X undefined in formâ when using MSIE 6.0. (X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.) This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape. When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section âForm Namesâ does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through. The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values. When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences. This problem is not isolated to just one form either. It randomly occurs on numerous forms in various applications. was this resolved? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
Geez I hope so, seeing as how that is from a post back in 2004. http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/msg172391.html Since a little water has gone under the bridge since that post why don't you start by telling us what your specific problem is. Thanks! ~Brad Original Message Subject: Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE From: Naomi Serrano nahom...@gmail.com Date: Wed, March 24, 2010 2:39 pm To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message âelement X undefined in formâ when using MSIE 6.0. (X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.) This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape. When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section âForm Namesâ does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through. The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values. When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences. This problem is not isolated to just one form either. It randomly occurs on numerous forms in various applications. was this resolved? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332209 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
The weird thing to me is that you can't get it to happen in a different browser when CF is the one processing the info and sending html to the browser. Just a long shot but try it two ways... hitting enter to submit and actually clicking the submit button with your mouse. hitting enter will cause the submit form field variable to be undefined but clicking it will not... - Original Message - From: Burns, John D To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:50 PM Subject: RE: Undefined in Form when using MSIE As weird as this may sound (and possibly uneducated) is there any chance that it's CF losing the form scope somehow (or maybe it's there but for some reason CF isn't able to read it)? It seems like a lot of people on the list have mentioned this problem. Have we narrowed down the CF version being used when this is happening? I'd think that if IE had a problem like this that there would be a lot more people complaining in the web world. Maybe there are and I just haven't heard it. Just a thought. John Burns -Original Message- From: Nick Han [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE I have had the same problem with my sites and raised the subject in this list before. I guess there's no real fix as far as a patch to fix IE. The kluge I have to prevent the processing page from erring out on a post action, when this mysterious bug occurs. Before processing the submitted form, I do this. cfif StructIsEmpty(form) do a js back. cfabort /cfif Nick Han [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 12:26PM We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message element X undefined in form when using MSIE 6.0. (X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.) This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape. When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section Form Names does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through. The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values. When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences. This problem is not isolated to just one form either. It randomly occurs on numerous forms i! n various applications. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259600 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
Was this ever resolved? I am getting the same issue. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259601 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
We have tried it both ways, by clicking the submit button and also by hitting the enter key.We typically submit by clicking the button and that has been when the error occurred.Since the error occurs infrequently (which of course is too frequent if you ask our customers!), I have not been able to duplicate the problem when I was testing by hitting the enter key. The weird thing to me is that you can't get it to happen in a different browser when CF is the one processing the info and sending html to the browser. Just a long shot but try it two ways... hitting enter to submit and actually clicking the submit button with your mouse. hitting enter will cause the submit form field variable to be undefined but clicking it will not... - Original Message - From: Burns, John D To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:50 PM Subject: RE: Undefined in Form when using MSIE As weird as this may sound (and possibly uneducated) is there any chance that it's CF losing the form scope somehow (or maybe it's there but for some reason CF isn't able to read it)?It seems like a lot of people on the list have mentioned this problem.Have we narrowed down the CF version being used when this is happening?I'd think that if IE had a problem like this that there would be a lot more people complaining in the web world.Maybe there are and I just haven't heard it.Just a thought. John Burns -Original Message- From: Nick Han [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE I have had the same problem with my sites and raised the subject in this list before.I guess there's no real fix as far as a patch to fix IE. The kluge I have to prevent the processing page from erring out on a post action, when this mysterious bug occurs. Before processing the submitted form, I do this. cfif StructIsEmpty(form) do a js back. cfabort /cfif Nick Han [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 12:26PM We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message element X undefined in form when using MSIE 6.0.(X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.)This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape.When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section Form Names does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through.The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values.When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences.This problem is not isolated to just one form either.It randomly occurs on numerous forms i! n various applications. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
On Tuesday 16 Mar 2004 21:50 pm, Burns, John D wrote: As weird as this may sound (and possibly uneducated) is there any chance that it's CF losing the form scope somehow I've see CFMX fail to see form.fieldnames (despite being a POST) a few times on our dev box. Just out of intrest, does the problem go away if you do a try/catch, with the intent of cfmail'ing yourself when it happens ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
I'm glad someone else has been having this problem. I have been getting this same problem also and was beginning to pull my hair out... So did you go back place the validation code for every form you have on all your sites?If so did that solve it? cfif StructIsEmpty(form) do a js back. cfabort /cfif -Original Message- From: Nick Han [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE I have had the same problem with my sites and raised the subject in this list before.I guess there's no real fix as far as a patch to fix IE.The kluge I have to prevent the processing page from erring out on a post action, when this mysterious bug occurs. Before processing the submitted form, I do this. cfif StructIsEmpty(form) do a js back. cfabort /cfif Nick Han [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 12:26PM We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message element X undefined in form when using MSIE 6.0.(X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.)This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape.When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section Form Names does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through. The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values.When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences. This problem is not isolated to just one form either.It randomly occurs on numerous forms i! n various applications. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
The hardest thing about this bug is that it doesn't happen consistently, so it is impossible to 'show' anyone about it.I personally have never come across this bug myself during development.The only reason I knew it had happened is through my error handler code, which emails me everything I needed to know about the user's action before the bug occurred. For now this does prevent the error, cfif StructIsEmpty(form) do a js back. cfabort /cfif Nick Han [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/18/04 09:28AM I'm glad someone else has been having this problem. I have been getting this same problem also and was beginning to pull my hair out... So did you go back place the validation code for every form you have on all your sites?If so did that solve it? cfif StructIsEmpty(form) do a js back. cfabort /cfif -Original Message- From: Nick Han [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE I have had the same problem with my sites and raised the subject in this list before.I guess there's no real fix as far as a patch to fix IE.The kluge I have to prevent the processing page from erring out on a post action, when this mysterious bug occurs. Before processing the submitted form, I do this. cfif StructIsEmpty(form) do a js back. cfabort /cfif Nick Han [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 12:26PM We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message element X undefined in form when using MSIE 6.0.(X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.)This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape.When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section Form Names does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through. The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values.When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences. This problem is not isolated to just one form either.It randomly occurs on numerous forms i! n various applications. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
The weird thing to me is that you can't get it to happen in a different browser when CF is the one processing the info and sending html to the browser. Just a long shot but try it two ways... hitting enter to submit and actually clicking the submit button with your mouse. hitting enter will cause the submit form field variable to be undefined but clicking it will not... - Original Message - From: Burns, John D To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:50 PM Subject: RE: Undefined in Form when using MSIE As weird as this may sound (and possibly uneducated) is there any chance that it's CF losing the form scope somehow (or maybe it's there but for some reason CF isn't able to read it)?It seems like a lot of people on the list have mentioned this problem.Have we narrowed down the CF version being used when this is happening?I'd think that if IE had a problem like this that there would be a lot more people complaining in the web world.Maybe there are and I just haven't heard it.Just a thought. John Burns -Original Message- From: Nick Han [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE I have had the same problem with my sites and raised the subject in this list before.I guess there's no real fix as far as a patch to fix IE. The kluge I have to prevent the processing page from erring out on a post action, when this mysterious bug occurs. Before processing the submitted form, I do this. cfif StructIsEmpty(form) do a js back. cfabort /cfif Nick Han [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 12:26PM We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message element X undefined in form when using MSIE 6.0.(X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.)This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape.When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section Form Names does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through.The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values.When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences.This problem is not isolated to just one form either.It randomly occurs on numerous forms i! n various applications. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
What do you have the enctype set to in the form tag? Also, do you have any links to provide us where we might see this happening? Mike We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message element X undefined in form when using MSIE 6.0. (X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.)This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape. When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section Form Names does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through.The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values.When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences.This problem is not isolated to just one form either.It randomly occurs on numerous forms in various applications. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
I have had the same problem with my sites and raised the subject in this list before.I guess there's no real fix as far as a patch to fix IE.The kluge I have to prevent the processing page from erring out on a post action, when this mysterious bug occurs. Before processing the submitted form, I do this. cfif StructIsEmpty(form) do a js back. cfabort /cfif Nick Han [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 12:26PM We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message element X undefined in form when using MSIE 6.0.(X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.)This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape.When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section Form Names does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through.The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values.When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences.This problem is not isolated to just one form either.It randomly occurs on numerous forms i! n various applications. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Undefined in Form when using MSIE
As weird as this may sound (and possibly uneducated) is there any chance that it's CF losing the form scope somehow (or maybe it's there but for some reason CF isn't able to read it)?It seems like a lot of people on the list have mentioned this problem.Have we narrowed down the CF version being used when this is happening?I'd think that if IE had a problem like this that there would be a lot more people complaining in the web world.Maybe there are and I just haven't heard it.Just a thought. John Burns -Original Message- From: Nick Han [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Undefined in Form when using MSIE I have had the same problem with my sites and raised the subject in this list before.I guess there's no real fix as far as a patch to fix IE. The kluge I have to prevent the processing page from erring out on a post action, when this mysterious bug occurs. Before processing the submitted form, I do this. cfif StructIsEmpty(form) do a js back. cfabort /cfif Nick Han [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 12:26PM We are experiencing random occurrences of the error message element X undefined in form when using MSIE 6.0.(X represents the names of various form variables and is always the first form variable referenced in the action file.)This problem cannot be duplicated using Netscape.When the error occurs, debugging reveals the scope variable section Form Names does not exist and thus indicating no form variables are passed through.The form is submitted without error about 95% of the time and of course, debugging displays the form names and values.When the error occurs, we can actually refresh the screen and the form variables are present again. (Of course, sometimes we must refresh the page a couple of times before the form variables are present.) This leads us to believe the form variables exist but for some reason cannot be interpreted by MSIE at random occurrences.This problem is not isolated to just one form either.It randomly occurs on numerous forms i! n various applications. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
