RE: Able Commerce
Unfortunately we are stuck with what we have *grrr* tone type=sarcasmI am having so much fun customizing this/tone*grr* Eric -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 July 2006 12:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Able Commerce I'll back this up again. You could got with CFWebstore right now and save money, EVEN INCLUDING what you've already wasted on AC, after accounting for man-hours and what not. Make your argument to the powers that be. * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Josh Nathanson wrote: Able Commerce CFMX version is basically a java app with some cfscript tags wrapped around it. I think that was probably the easiest way for them to push out a CF version of their product. I took a look at it (luckily they had a trial version) and dumped it immediately. It sounds like you may be stuck with it, but let the powers that be know you could probably have CFWebstore up and customized (it's $300) in less time that you will be able to untangle the mess you're in with Able Commerce. -- Josh - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Able Commerce I tend to agree. My brief look at it didn't give me a very good opinion either. I decided to steer well clear. -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 July 2006 15:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Able Commerce My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is a total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you some. Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it immediately. If you really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart application, look into Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed with AC now is going to save you more money and frustration in the long run than it's going to cost you to write it off and go with something worth using. This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never to work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone talk about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my opinions of the software and the company actually are. The single year-long project I was on working with AC was a complete nightmare filled with hours of talking to the least helpful and least professional support personnel with whom I've ever had the bad fortune to speak. Of course, that's just my opinion... * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Eric Roberts wrote: Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart? I am installing this so that it can be inserted within the context of the existing site (using the headers and left side navigation features already present on the site, with that cart being the body of the store section of the site) This site uses another package as a content manager(not a very good one at that), but, unfortunately, we need to work with what we have as they are not allowing us to do a complete redo on the site. Any help on this would be appreciated...or at least if someone could point me to a good resource. Able Commerce's tech support system sucks. Once you have it installed (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not), you are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization support. Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again. When I complained about this to their customer service, all I got was attitude and how that is how their model is and that they are not changing it. I have also had this same question on their forums for the past 2-3 days and have not received a response from anyone. Thanks in advance! Eric ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247720 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Able Commerce
The reason was that AC treats the two as distinct domains, instead of 2 subdomains from the same domain. The store key only works for one unless you have one specially made that works with both. Eric -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 July 2006 12:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Able Commerce They both point to the same directory. I didn't st it up, but I have to work with it. The previous cart worked just fine with this. Ah, then you're right, there's no reason why that should not work. --- Mary Jo ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247721 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Able Commerce
My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is a total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you some. Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it immediately. If you really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart application, look into Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed with AC now is going to save you more money and frustration in the long run than it's going to cost you to write it off and go with something worth using. This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never to work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone talk about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my opinions of the software and the company actually are. The single year-long project I was on working with AC was a complete nightmare filled with hours of talking to the least helpful and least professional support personnel with whom I've ever had the bad fortune to speak. Of course, that's just my opinion... * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Eric Roberts wrote: Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart? I am installing this so that it can be inserted within the context of the existing site (using the headers and left side navigation features already present on the site, with that cart being the body of the store section of the site) This site uses another package as a content manager(not a very good one at that), but, unfortunately, we need to work with what we have as they are not allowing us to do a complete redo on the site. Any help on this would be appreciated...or at least if someone could point me to a good resource. Able Commerce's tech support system sucks. Once you have it installed (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not), you are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization support. Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again. When I complained about this to their customer service, all I got was attitude and how that is how their model is and that they are not changing it. I have also had this same question on their forums for the past 2-3 days and have not received a response from anyone. Thanks in advance! Eric ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247486 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Able Commerce
I tend to agree. My brief look at it didn't give me a very good opinion either. I decided to steer well clear. -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 July 2006 15:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Able Commerce My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is a total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you some. Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it immediately. If you really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart application, look into Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed with AC now is going to save you more money and frustration in the long run than it's going to cost you to write it off and go with something worth using. This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never to work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone talk about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my opinions of the software and the company actually are. The single year-long project I was on working with AC was a complete nightmare filled with hours of talking to the least helpful and least professional support personnel with whom I've ever had the bad fortune to speak. Of course, that's just my opinion... * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Eric Roberts wrote: Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart? I am installing this so that it can be inserted within the context of the existing site (using the headers and left side navigation features already present on the site, with that cart being the body of the store section of the site) This site uses another package as a content manager(not a very good one at that), but, unfortunately, we need to work with what we have as they are not allowing us to do a complete redo on the site. Any help on this would be appreciated...or at least if someone could point me to a good resource. Able Commerce's tech support system sucks. Once you have it installed (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not), you are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization support. Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again. When I complained about this to their customer service, all I got was attitude and how that is how their model is and that they are not changing it. I have also had this same question on their forums for the past 2-3 days and have not received a response from anyone. Thanks in advance! Eric ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247491 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Able Commerce
Ken...I am beginning to agree that this is a real POS. I only hope we can use something esle, or this is going to be a real headache. The way our server is set up is we have the site and a secure site (one is www.name.net the other is secure.name.net) The store keys apparently only work for one domain and will not work with this configuation. The real stupid thing is that int he admin page for the store, you can change the url for the secure site for your store. If you can specify a different url for the secure site, why would this only work with one domain? What a way to start a monday morning, huh? GRR I think I will join you on your crusade to let people know how much of a POS this package is. When i talked to thier customer support on Friday about my dissatisfaction with thier tech support policies, all I got was attitude and I think the quote was something like this is the model we use...we have been doing this for years and we are not going to change. Great way to keep customers, huh? Eric ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247512 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Able Commerce
Ken...I am beginning to agree that this is a real POS. I only hope we can use something esle, or this is going to be a real headache. The way our server is set up is we have the site and a secure site (one is www.name.net the other is secure.name.net) The store keys apparently only work for one domain and will not work with this configuation. Hhmby this do you mean that the two are on different servers? It's hard to tell for sure from what you write here, but if that's the case, it certainly would be a problem for most shopping carts, since you can't generally share session information between two servers. Otherwise, I'm surprised this would be a problem...it's pretty typical particularly in a shared environment for the SSL to use a different domain. But of course, I can't really speak for another product. ;-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247517 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Able Commerce
Able Commerce CFMX version is basically a java app with some cfscript tags wrapped around it. I think that was probably the easiest way for them to push out a CF version of their product. I took a look at it (luckily they had a trial version) and dumped it immediately. It sounds like you may be stuck with it, but let the powers that be know you could probably have CFWebstore up and customized (it's $300) in less time that you will be able to untangle the mess you're in with Able Commerce. -- Josh - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Able Commerce I tend to agree. My brief look at it didn't give me a very good opinion either. I decided to steer well clear. -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 July 2006 15:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Able Commerce My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is a total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you some. Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it immediately. If you really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart application, look into Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed with AC now is going to save you more money and frustration in the long run than it's going to cost you to write it off and go with something worth using. This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never to work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone talk about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my opinions of the software and the company actually are. The single year-long project I was on working with AC was a complete nightmare filled with hours of talking to the least helpful and least professional support personnel with whom I've ever had the bad fortune to speak. Of course, that's just my opinion... * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Eric Roberts wrote: Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart? I am installing this so that it can be inserted within the context of the existing site (using the headers and left side navigation features already present on the site, with that cart being the body of the store section of the site) This site uses another package as a content manager(not a very good one at that), but, unfortunately, we need to work with what we have as they are not allowing us to do a complete redo on the site. Any help on this would be appreciated...or at least if someone could point me to a good resource. Able Commerce's tech support system sucks. Once you have it installed (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not), you are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization support. Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again. When I complained about this to their customer service, all I got was attitude and how that is how their model is and that they are not changing it. I have also had this same question on their forums for the past 2-3 days and have not received a response from anyone. Thanks in advance! Eric ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247520 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Able Commerce
No...same server, just a different header.(note name replaces the actual name for non-disclosure reasons) The main site is http://www.name.org and the secure address is https://secure.name.org They both point to the same directory. I didn't st it up, but I have to work with it. The previous cart worked just fine with this. Eric From: Mary Jo Sminkey Hhmby this do you mean that the two are on different servers? It's hard to tell for sure from what you write here, but if that's the case, it certainly would be a problem for most shopping carts, since you can't generally share session information between two servers. Otherwise, I'm surprised this would be a problem...it's pretty typical particularly in a shared environment for the SSL to use a different domain. But of course, I can't really speak for another product. ;-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247524 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Able Commerce
Ken, We have a lot of experience with ACB - and I wholeheatedly agree with your assesment :) -mark -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 9:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Able Commerce My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is a total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you some. Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it immediately. If you really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart application, look into Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed with AC now is going to save you more money and frustration in the long run than it's going to cost you to write it off and go with something worth using. This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never to work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone talk about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my opinions of the software and the company actually are. The single year-long project I was on working with AC was a complete nightmare filled with hours of talking to the least helpful and least professional support personnel with whom I've ever had the bad fortune to speak. Of course, that's just my opinion... * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Eric Roberts wrote: Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart? I am installing this so that it can be inserted within the context of the existing site (using the headers and left side navigation features already present on the site, with that cart being the body of the store section of the site) This site uses another package as a content manager(not a very good one at that), but, unfortunately, we need to work with what we have as they are not allowing us to do a complete redo on the site. Any help on this would be appreciated...or at least if someone could point me to a good resource. Able Commerce's tech support system sucks. Once you have it installed (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not), you are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization support. Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again. When I complained about this to their customer service, all I got was attitude and how that is how their model is and that they are not changing it. I have also had this same question on their forums for the past 2-3 days and have not received a response from anyone. Thanks in advance! Eric ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247526 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Able Commerce
My only concern with CFWebstore is that since it is done in fusebox, how well would that work when the rest of the site is not fusebox? I personally love fusebox...but unfortuantely do not have the aility to redo the entire site with the methodology (I wish i could though...it owuld make life a lot easier hehehe). I was looking at Cartweaver and I will be recommending that we go with that and dump Able Commerce. AC is good if you want just what they have out of the box...which is a pretty good cart, but if you want to integrate it into your site...outside of getting raped on the tech support costs...good luck. I was able to do some customization, but they were pretty painful changes that took a long time to develop. We also found out htat we can buy a development license for our dev server *laugh* What kind of crap is that? I have never heard of having to buy a lcense ($195 at that...)to run a product on a development server. I think these guys need to pass on whatever they are smoking...must be some good stuff. *aggrivated* Eric Able Commerce CFMX version is basically a java app with some cfscript tags wrapped around it. I think that was probably the easiest way for them to push out a CF version of their product. I took a look at it (luckily they had a trial version) and dumped it immediately. It sounds like you may be stuck with it, but let the powers that be know you could probably have CFWebstore up and customized (it's $300) in less time that you will be able to untangle the mess you're in with Able Commerce. -- Josh ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247527 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Able Commerce
I'll back this up again. You could got with CFWebstore right now and save money, EVEN INCLUDING what you've already wasted on AC, after accounting for man-hours and what not. Make your argument to the powers that be. * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Josh Nathanson wrote: Able Commerce CFMX version is basically a java app with some cfscript tags wrapped around it. I think that was probably the easiest way for them to push out a CF version of their product. I took a look at it (luckily they had a trial version) and dumped it immediately. It sounds like you may be stuck with it, but let the powers that be know you could probably have CFWebstore up and customized (it's $300) in less time that you will be able to untangle the mess you're in with Able Commerce. -- Josh - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Able Commerce I tend to agree. My brief look at it didn't give me a very good opinion either. I decided to steer well clear. -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 July 2006 15:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Able Commerce My only advice for working with AC is to run away, terribly fast. It is a total piece. I know you're looking for advice, so I will give you some. Chalk up what you've spent on it as a loss and ditch it immediately. If you really want a CF-based off-the-shelf packaged cart application, look into Cartweaver or CFWebstore... Getting out of bed with AC now is going to save you more money and frustration in the long run than it's going to cost you to write it off and go with something worth using. This is that one product that was SO BAD that I promised not only never to work with it again, but to make sure that every time I heard someone talk about it I would make absolutely sure that they knew how low my opinions of the software and the company actually are. The single year-long project I was on working with AC was a complete nightmare filled with hours of talking to the least helpful and least professional support personnel with whom I've ever had the bad fortune to speak. Of course, that's just my opinion... * Ken Ferguson 214.636.6126 * Eric Roberts wrote: Anyone here ever customize an Able Commerce shopping cart? I am installing this so that it can be inserted within the context of the existing site (using the headers and left side navigation features already present on the site, with that cart being the body of the store section of the site) This site uses another package as a content manager(not a very good one at that), but, unfortunately, we need to work with what we have as they are not allowing us to do a complete redo on the site. Any help on this would be appreciated...or at least if someone could point me to a good resource. Able Commerce's tech support system sucks. Once you have it installed (regardless if you have installed in the context of you site or not), you are on your own, unless you want to pay 150/hr for customization support. Needless to say, we won't be purchasing this ever again. When I complained about this to their customer service, all I got was attitude and how that is how their model is and that they are not changing it. I have also had this same question on their forums for the past 2-3 days and have not received a response from anyone. Thanks in advance! Eric ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247532 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Able Commerce
My only concern with CFWebstore is that since it is done in fusebox, how well would that work when the rest of the site is not fusebox? As long as you drop it into its own directory, it's not a problem. I have lots of clients that run it this way. I certainly don't expect everyone to run out and recode their sites into Fusebox! For an example, see www.usdaa.com. Everything on this site was done prior to adding CFWebstore to handle the store. It runs from its own directory, and is completely separate from the rest of the code. Mary Jo Sminkey http://www.cfwebstore.com CFWebstore, ColdFusion E-commerce ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247533 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Able Commerce
They both point to the same directory. I didn't st it up, but I have to work with it. The previous cart worked just fine with this. Ah, then you're right, there's no reason why that should not work. --- Mary Jo ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:247534 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Able Commerce Guru's?
Will, Hai! Any one out there know how to add text boxes to a product; for example shoe size that would populate the custom fields? "Yeah, you have to add 'options' (which has to be enabled first in Administrator), then you can assign prices to those options. So one set of options would be Shoe-Size or Colour - and they can be given different prices if needs be. Its in the online manual." The above is a quote from an ICQ from a friend who knows AbleCommerce pretty well Hope that helps. Regards Stephen -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce Guru's?
Go into the ProdWiz? file that you are using for that store. If you are using custom wizards, this file will be located under your store install in the wizards directory. Look in your admin portion of the site and see which prodwiz you are using for this store, make a copy of it and add the copy as a new wizard and then change the code as needed. The customfield are already defined, you just have to edit how they are viewed. Larry Juncker Senior Cold Fusion Programmer Heartland Communications Group, Inc. -Original Message- From: Will Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 7:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Able Commerce Guru's? Hai! Any one out there know how to add text boxes to a product; for example shoe size that would populate the custom fields? Thanks, Will Will Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zerotoeighty.com w: 410-327-9152 f: 410-327-4086 -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce Help
I need to have an email option (trying to talk them out of this) along with a fax option for submitting orders. The email will be wrapped in a PGP tag. I'm too new at Able commerce to know if a wizard will do the trick. So I'm assuming I need to modify the app. Bonnie -Original Message- From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 6:07 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Able Commerce Help Well, what kind of modifications do you need. Is it something you could just generate custom wizards with and import them directly into the page. Or are you changing the actual structure of the app. Emmet McGovern developer/ Byte Size Inc -Original Message- From: Russell, Bonnie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 6:07 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Able Commerce Help yes, I've followed their directions in the system administrators documentation, and that's how my troubles began. I need to have a complete copy of the program files since we'll be modifying them slightly for one customer. When we bought this package, that was one of the requirements and we have the developers edition. I've been all through their site and read most of their documentation. I have to admit, I'm the first at our company to actually use the able commerce, but as long as I don't change any mappings, there hasen't been any problems. This was supposed to be a 3 day project which is now going on 3 weeks and the customer is not happy and I'm getting to the point where ulcers look like welcome relief compared to the stress they're putting us under. Is there a particular FAQ that you're referring to? Thanks for the info Bonnie -Original Message- From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 5:16 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Able Commerce Help You just need to have unique wizards or are you trying to dulicate the whole package? Have you checked out the extensive faq's on customization at the able website? Emmet McGovern developer/ Byte Size Inc -Original Message- From: Russell, Bonnie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 2:58 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Able Commerce Help Has anyone had experience using able commerce and customizing for a particular customer. What I need is to have a separate directory for program files for one customer while using the original able commerce program files for everyone else. Everytime I follow the directions to copy the files and change the mapping for my one store, all the stores stop working. I've been on the phone with able commerce, and so far they've given me nothing but the brush off. So how do you set up a store with it's own program files? Bonnie Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce Help
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RE: Able Commerce Help
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RE: Able Commerce
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_001_01BFBF37.565519EC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" May we have the URLs? Pretty Please! -Original Message- From: Paul's Mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 10:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Able Commerce Yep, I have 5 sites up with Able. Now installing their auction software. Paul Burgess -Original Message- From: Jake Hileman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Able Commerce Anyone use Able Commerce? if you do, tell me :-) Jake -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --_=_NextPart_001_01BFBF37.565519EC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1" META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12" TITLERE: Able Commerce/TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=3D2May we have the URLs?nbsp; Pretty Please!/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2-Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2From: Paul's Mail [A = HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FONT= BRFONT SIZE=3D2Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 10:09 PM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Subject: RE: Able Commerce/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=3D2Yep,/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; I have 5 sites up with Able. Now = installing their auction software./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2Paul Burgess/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2gt; -Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; From: Jake Hileman [A = HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FON= T BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:21 AM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Subject: Able Commerce/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt;/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt;/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Anyone use Able Commerce?/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt;/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; if you do, tell me :-)/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt;/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Jake/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt;/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; = --/FONT= BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Archives: A = HREF=3D"http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk" = TARGET=3D"_blank"http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk/A/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; To Unsubscribe visit/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; A = HREF=3D"http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=3Dlistsbody=3Dli= sts/cf" = TARGET=3D"_blank"http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=3Dlists= body=3Dlists/cf/A/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2_talk or send a message to = [EMAIL PROTECTED] with/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2'unsubscribe' in the body./FONT /P PFONT = SIZE=3D2---= ---/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Archives: A = HREF=3D"http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk" = TARGET=3D"_blank"http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk/A/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2To Unsubscribe visit A = HREF=3D"http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=3Dlistsbody=3Dli= sts/cf_talk" = TARGET=3D"_blank"http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=3Dlists= body=3Dlists/cf_talk/A or send a message to = [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the = body./FONT/P /BODY /HTML --_=_NextPart_001_01BFBF37.565519EC-- -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce
Yes I do Jake; Below are URLS to some of my ACB Sites. www.artdealmall.com www.trophiesplus.com www.agdealmall.com www.shoppersfarmstore.com www.musichotbidmall.com H Larry Juncker L Senior Cold Fusion Programmer I Heartland Communications Group Internet Division -Original Message- From: Jake Hileman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 6:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Able Commerce Anyone use Able Commerce? if you do, tell me :-) Jake -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce
here are some:- http://www.fishtec.co.uk The above one incorporates a lot of Flash eg rods - delta counter. http://www.timesreaderoffers.co.uk Paul Burgess -Original Message- From: Padraig I.J. Burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 2:05 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Able Commerce This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_001_01BFBF37.565519EC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" May we have the URLs? Pretty Please! -Original Message- From: Paul's Mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 10:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Able Commerce Yep, I have 5 sites up with Able. Now installing their auction software. Paul Burgess -Original Message- From: Jake Hileman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Able Commerce Anyone use Able Commerce? if you do, tell me :-) Jake -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- -- -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --_=_NextPart_001_01BFBF37.565519EC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1" META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12" TITLERE: Able Commerce/TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=3D2May we have the URLs?nbsp; Pretty Please!/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2-Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2From: Paul's Mail [A = HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FONT= BRFONT SIZE=3D2Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 10:09 PM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Subject: RE: Able Commerce/FONT /P BR PFONT SIZE=3D2Yep,/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; I have 5 sites up with Able. Now = installing their auction software./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2Paul Burgess/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=3D2gt; -Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; From: Jake Hileman [A = HREF=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FON= T BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:21 AM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Subject: Able Commerce/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt;/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt;/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Anyone use Able Commerce?/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt;/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; if you do, tell me :-)/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt;/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Jake/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt;/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; = --/FONT= BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; Archives: A = HREF=3D"http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk" = TARGET=3D"_blank"http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk/A/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; To Unsubscribe visit/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2gt; A = HREF=3D"http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=3Dlistsbody=3Dli= sts/cf" = TARGET=3D"_blank"http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=3Dlists= body=3Dlists/cf/A/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2_talk or send a message to = [EMAIL PROTECTED] with/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2'unsubscribe' in the body./FONT /P PFONT = SIZE=3D2---= ---/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2Archives: A = HREF=3D"http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk" = TARGET=3D"_blank"http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk/A/FONT BRFONT SIZE=3D2To Unsubscribe visit A = HREF=3D"http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=3Dlistsbody=3Dli= sts/cf_talk" = TARGET=3D"_blank"http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=3Dlists= body=3Dlists/cf_talk/A or send a message to = [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the = body./FONT/P /BODY /HTML --_=_NextPart_001_01BFBF37.565519EC-- -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. ---
RE: Able Commerce - more URLs
As you work from the top to the bottom of this list you go from a store (Buddy Davis) where we as the web developer we maintain total control and maintenance to a store (Skim City) where the client did 90% of the set up and 100% of the maintenance with in house personnel. www.buddydavis.com - Ship's Store www.exotic-cargo.com - Exotic Shopping www.oar-nc.com - Rental Catalogue www.flagfinder.com - Flag Store www.nextdayseafood.com - Order Quality Seafood www.meob.com - Store www.birthday-suits.com - Product Line www.jeaninescathouse.com - Cat Store www.worldwideshells.com - Shell Store www.skimcity.com - Online Store -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce Help
Well, what kind of modifications do you need. Is it something you could just generate custom wizards with and import them directly into the page. Or are you changing the actual structure of the app. Emmet McGovern developer/ Byte Size Inc -Original Message- From: Russell, Bonnie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 6:07 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Able Commerce Help yes, I've followed their directions in the system administrators documentation, and that's how my troubles began. I need to have a complete copy of the program files since we'll be modifying them slightly for one customer. When we bought this package, that was one of the requirements and we have the developers edition. I've been all through their site and read most of their documentation. I have to admit, I'm the first at our company to actually use the able commerce, but as long as I don't change any mappings, there hasen't been any problems. This was supposed to be a 3 day project which is now going on 3 weeks and the customer is not happy and I'm getting to the point where ulcers look like welcome relief compared to the stress they're putting us under. Is there a particular FAQ that you're referring to? Thanks for the info Bonnie -Original Message- From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 5:16 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Able Commerce Help You just need to have unique wizards or are you trying to dulicate the whole package? Have you checked out the extensive faq's on customization at the able website? Emmet McGovern developer/ Byte Size Inc -Original Message- From: Russell, Bonnie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 2:58 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Able Commerce Help Has anyone had experience using able commerce and customizing for a particular customer. What I need is to have a separate directory for program files for one customer while using the original able commerce program files for everyone else. Everytime I follow the directions to copy the files and change the mapping for my one store, all the stores stop working. I've been on the phone with able commerce, and so far they've given me nothing but the brush off. So how do you set up a store with it's own program files? Bonnie Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce Help
You just need to have unique wizards or are you trying to dulicate the whole package? Have you checked out the extensive faq's on customization at the able website? Emmet McGovern developer/ Byte Size Inc -Original Message- From: Russell, Bonnie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 2:58 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Able Commerce Help Has anyone had experience using able commerce and customizing for a particular customer. What I need is to have a separate directory for program files for one customer while using the original able commerce program files for everyone else. Everytime I follow the directions to copy the files and change the mapping for my one store, all the stores stop working. I've been on the phone with able commerce, and so far they've given me nothing but the brush off. So how do you set up a store with it's own program files? Bonnie Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce Help
yes, I've followed their directions in the system administrators documentation, and that's how my troubles began. I need to have a complete copy of the program files since we'll be modifying them slightly for one customer. When we bought this package, that was one of the requirements and we have the developers edition. I've been all through their site and read most of their documentation. I have to admit, I'm the first at our company to actually use the able commerce, but as long as I don't change any mappings, there hasen't been any problems. This was supposed to be a 3 day project which is now going on 3 weeks and the customer is not happy and I'm getting to the point where ulcers look like welcome relief compared to the stress they're putting us under. Is there a particular FAQ that you're referring to? Thanks for the info Bonnie -Original Message- From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 5:16 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Able Commerce Help You just need to have unique wizards or are you trying to dulicate the whole package? Have you checked out the extensive faq's on customization at the able website? Emmet McGovern developer/ Byte Size Inc -Original Message- From: Russell, Bonnie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 2:58 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Able Commerce Help Has anyone had experience using able commerce and customizing for a particular customer. What I need is to have a separate directory for program files for one customer while using the original able commerce program files for everyone else. Everytime I follow the directions to copy the files and change the mapping for my one store, all the stores stop working. I've been on the phone with able commerce, and so far they've given me nothing but the brush off. So how do you set up a store with it's own program files? Bonnie Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce
Yep, I have 5 sites up with Able. Now installing their auction software. Paul Burgess -Original Message- From: Jake Hileman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Able Commerce Anyone use Able Commerce? if you do, tell me :-) Jake -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf _talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce
At 07:20 PM 5/15/2000 -0400, you wrote: Anyone use Able Commerce? if you do, tell me :-) We have used it at http://www.rivermyst.com -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce
Love it, love it, love it, and it's reasonably priced with good support. 'Nuff said. Check out: www.tooters.net Katie -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 10:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Able Commerce Wejust purchased cfwebstore - at $150 for full source it's a pretty good deal (www.cfwebstore.com) Howie Hamlin I'm currently evaluating a number of options. I'd love further comments on the above product. Do you have anything live running at the moment that uses it? Any problems with configuration/customization or anything? Inquiring minds and all. Thanks Les Mizzell *** Who needs Intel? Athlon Inside!!! -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce
Did you go to the site and look? cfwebstore was developed by Mary Jo Sminkey. There's a link at the website to email her. -Original Message- From: Gollamudi, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 8:41 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Able Commerce Just curious who is www.cfwebstore.com? What is the contact numbers for cfwebstore.com ? Able commerce E-Commerce solution is AbleCommerce2.9 -Original Message- From: Howell, Katie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Able Commerce Love it, love it, love it, and it's reasonably priced with good support. 'Nuff said. Check out: www.tooters.net Katie -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 10:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Able Commerce Wejust purchased cfwebstore - at $150 for full source it's a pretty good deal (www.cfwebstore.com) Howie Hamlin I'm currently evaluating a number of options. I'd love further comments on the above product. Do you have anything live running at the moment that uses it? Any problems with configuration/customization or anything? Inquiring minds and all. Thanks Les Mizzell *** Who needs Intel? Athlon Inside!!! -- -- -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce
Just curious did you go to www.cfwebstore.com and look for them first? - Original Message - From: "Gollamudi, Jay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 7:41 AM Subject: RE: Able Commerce Just curious who is www.cfwebstore.com? What is the contact numbers for cfwebstore.com ? Able commerce E-Commerce solution is AbleCommerce2.9 -Original Message- From: Howell, Katie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Able Commerce Love it, love it, love it, and it's reasonably priced with good support. 'Nuff said. Check out: www.tooters.net Katie -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 10:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Able Commerce Wejust purchased cfwebstore - at $150 for full source it's a pretty good deal (www.cfwebstore.com) Howie Hamlin I'm currently evaluating a number of options. I'd love further comments on the above product. Do you have anything live running at the moment that uses it? Any problems with configuration/customization or anything? Inquiring minds and all. Thanks Les Mizzell *** Who needs Intel? Athlon Inside!!! -- -- -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce
Just amazying man.. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce
Wejust purchased cfwebstore - at $150 for full source it's a pretty good deal (www.cfwebstore.com) Howie Hamlin -- inFusion Project Manager; On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. (631)737-4668 === Please vote for iMS in the Most Innovative category here: *** http://www.sys-con.com/ColdFusion/readerschoice2000/ *** === Check out inFusion Mail Server - the world's most configurable email server *** inFusion Authenticator for IIS is now released! (download from CoolFusion.com) *** http://www.teletrends.com and http://www.coolfusion.com Software and utilities for ColdFusion, iHTML, Website, NTMail Latest versions available from our web site (inFusion Authenticator version 2.0 for WebSite and NTMail is now released) - Original Message - From: Mark Yim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 8:03 PM Subject: Able Commerce Does anyone out there have tips on how to use Able Commerce to lay out your e-commerce site? It seems to function fine, but the interface is so cumbersome I am having a bear of a time setting up a site that looks the way I want it to look. We are in the process of buying the source code, so if you have suggestions on how to use it effectively I would appreciate it. For that matter, if anyone has used a different third-party e-commerce solution, I'd love to hear if something worked well. Thanks! -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce
Wejust purchased cfwebstore - at $150 for full source it's a pretty good deal (www.cfwebstore.com) Howie Hamlin I'm currently evaluating a number of options. I'd love further comments on the above product. Do you have anything live running at the moment that uses it? Any problems with configuration/customization or anything? Inquiring minds and all. Thanks Les Mizzell *** Who needs Intel? Athlon Inside!!! -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce
We have one site that will be rolling out soon. I'm not doing the coding so I can't comment on the specifics except that this is what the other coders here have decided to use and you can't beat the price... Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 10:12 PM Subject: RE: Able Commerce Wejust purchased cfwebstore - at $150 for full source it's a pretty good deal (www.cfwebstore.com) Howie Hamlin I'm currently evaluating a number of options. I'd love further comments on the above product. Do you have anything live running at the moment that uses it? Any problems with configuration/customization or anything? Inquiring minds and all. Thanks Les Mizzell *** Who needs Intel? Athlon Inside!!! -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce knock-off
snip The guy has already apologized for it. Drop it please. Consider it dropped. I hadn't received that message at that point; when combined with 48 straight hours of being force-fed PL/SQL for a project far better served by CF, I guess it just brought out the smartass in me. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled Mozilla-thrashing. :) Brandon Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "It'll get used by the same people using Opera. People dressed in black wearing berets." - Dave Watts, on Mozilla "The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce knock-off
Do you really want to purchase from a product that is so obviously built while looking at the AbleCommerce Builder product? What does this say about the company? (AbleCommerce Marketing Guide, Step 1: Question competitor's ethics for DARING to model their offering on your own flagship product.) The fusebox "like" AuctionBuilder product is ONE example of the future of our products, which we are releasing many this year. (AbleCommerce Marketing Guide, Step 2: Hype your product by comparing it to the well-known and widely-used standard you modeled it on.) Am I reading your intent incorrectly, or did you just attain Zen-like balance by perfecting a 1-to-1 foot/mouth ratio? Brandon Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "It'll get used by the same people using Opera. People dressed in black wearing berets." - Dave Watts, on Mozilla "The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce knock-off
Its common and even expected of people who work for companies to back their own products as the best, and one and only true product. The guy has already apologized for it. Drop it please. We/I have better things to do than read people griping on this list and its gone on long and far enough. We are here to help each other out during those all too rare occasions that our minds go blank and our coffee and chocolate buzz has worn off. My grand-daddy used to say that opinions are like (censored expletive)s everybody's got one and they're all full of (another censored expletive). Can we all get back to being nice friendly, unstressed little developers who just want to be better at what they love to do Thank-you for attention in this matter, Fred T. Sanders Galveston Island, TX -- Having a bad day? Imagine this... You are in total seclusion from that hectic place called "The World". The soothing sound of a gentle waterfall fills the air with a cascading serenity. The water is clear. You can easily make out the face of the person you are holding underwater. Feeling better? - Original Message - From: "Brandon Whitaker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 6:43 AM Subject: Re: "Able Commerce knock-off" Do you really want to purchase from a product that is so obviously built while looking at the AbleCommerce Builder product? What does this say about the company? (AbleCommerce Marketing Guide, Step 1: Question competitor's ethics for DARING to model their offering on your own flagship product.) The fusebox "like" AuctionBuilder product is ONE example of the future of our products, which we are releasing many this year. (AbleCommerce Marketing Guide, Step 2: Hype your product by comparing it to the well-known and widely-used standard you modeled it on.) Am I reading your intent incorrectly, or did you just attain Zen-like balance by perfecting a 1-to-1 foot/mouth ratio? Brandon Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "It'll get used by the same people using Opera. People dressed in black wearing berets." - Dave Watts, on Mozilla "The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce knock-off
Hello CF-Talk, As everyone like's to read more into my statements than is needed, and given the fact that except on this list we very very VERY rarely run into any of the competitors at this level and our honest competitors (the ones we're normally compaired to, Adrian) are IBM, Microsoft, OpenMarket and IntershopI'm doneSorry...Thanks...WhateverHave a nice dayI have to go beat up on Bill Gates now ;)~ Best Regards, Mike Randolph P.S. I guess marketing is right, I should never never never post to these lists...bad mike, no cookie. - From: Mike Randolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2000 19:12 The fusebox "like" AuctionBuilder product is ONE example of the future of our products, which we are releasing many this year. What does "fusebox like" mean - does it mean it conforms totally to fusebox, or it conforms to your interpretation of fusebox, or to your intepretation of what fusebox should be? I'm sure on the flexibility point we are the winner, as far as price goes we have set it FAR below all of our "honest competitors" and yet still have enough Define "honest". margin in it to allow for support, Research Development and exspansion of the company. IBM, Microsoft, OpenMarket, and Intershop hate running into us, our product is much easer to get started with than any of those products that offer "similar" levels of features and COMPANY SUPPORT. I think that applies to most CF based products of this type - that is the strength of CF. As for support - you are making the somewhat biased assumption that only you provide it. The ONLY reason I originally posted was because the copyright and patent laws of our country suck, but our country's ethics don't?Go try to "knock off" a song, book or corporate logo...etc. It is obvious to me that the reason you have gone to such extremes to defend your product is because you are seriously concerned about the competition. If you were not concerned about the competition, and your product stood on its own as unsurpassable, you wouldn't have to. You keep mentioning AuctionBuilder - this discussion is not about AuctionBuilder it is about Able Commerce - how about addressing the concerns of your potential customers? Adrian Cooper. --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce knock-off
- Original Message - From: Mike Randolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2000 17:20 Do you really want to purchase from a product that is so obviously built while looking at the AbleCommerce Builder product? What does this say about the company? It says to me that they recognise the good qualities of your product, whilst also recognising the defficiencies as they perceive them to be - and apparently others perceive them to be as well. If they can address those issues at 1/10 of the price - then good luck to them I say. If CF WebShop does everything AbleCommerce does, is more flexible, and 1/10 of the price for open source - where would_you_put your eCommerce platform dollars? We pride ourselves at AbleCommerce in providing original solutions to tough e-business issues. Look at our new AuctionBuilder product to see where our new products are headed, The disucssion is not about Auction products, it is about eStore products. BEFORE you drop your money on the table. AbleCommerce Builder is a proven product, with proven support and a proven company behind it. That as may be - but it doesn't mean that you can be arrogant or complacent about it. Being first to market, or market leader isn't always good enough unless you are M$ or Inte$. Over here at least we have a saying - "the customer is always right" - which means that you should listen to your customers and act acordingly. If your customers say that your product is difficult to customise, too expensive for open source etc., - then you should listen to them. I for one don't have a problem with AbleCommerce, and I certainly do recognise its significance and standing, but that does not mean you are unique in that. Instead of telling us how great your product is, how about addressing the issues of flexibility and price? Adrian Cooper. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce knock-off
Hello CF-Talk, When you are purchasing any product, the future MUST be considered if growth is planned? The fusebox "like" AuctionBuilder product is ONE example of the future of our products, which we are releasing many this year. I'm sure on the flexibility point we are the winner, as far as price goes we have set it FAR below all of our "honest competitors" and yet still have enough margin in it to allow for support, Research Development and exspansion of the company. IBM, Microsoft, OpenMarket, and Intershop hate running into us, our product is much easer to get started with than any of those products that offer "similar" levels of features and COMPANY SUPPORT. One of our new customers spent 3 months trying to get IBM's solution to work, angry with the problems one of the developers went home early on Friday and downloaded our software. Returning to work on Monday with an almost fully completed site they dropped the IBM solution in favor of ours. The ONLY reason I originally posted was because the copyright and patent laws of our country suck, but our country's ethics don't?Go try to "knock off" a song, book or corporate logo...etc. VERY Respectfully yours, Mike Randolph Do you really want to purchase from a product that is so obviously built while looking at the AbleCommerce Builder product? What does this say about the company? It says to me that they recognise the good qualities of your product, whilst also recognising the defficiencies as they perceive them to be - and apparently others perceive them to be as well. If they can address those issues at 1/10 of the price - then good luck to them I say. If CF WebShop does everything AbleCommerce does, is more flexible, and 1/10 of the price for open source - where would_you_put your eCommerce platform dollars? We pride ourselves at AbleCommerce in providing original solutions to tough e-business issues. Look at our new AuctionBuilder product to see where our new products are headed, The disucssion is not about Auction products, it is about eStore products. BEFORE you drop your money on the table. AbleCommerce Builder is a proven product, with proven support and a proven company behind it. That as may be - but it doesn't mean that you can be arrogant or complacent about it. Being first to market, or market leader isn't always good enough unless you are M$ or Inte$. Over here at least we have a saying - "the customer is always right" - which means that you should listen to your customers and act acordingly. If your customers say that your product is difficult to customise, too expensive for open source etc., - then you should listen to them. I for one don't have a problem with AbleCommerce, and I certainly do recognise its significance and standing, but that does not mean you are unique in that. Instead of telling us how great your product is, how about addressing the issues of flexibility and price? Adrian Cooper. --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce knock-off
The ONLY reason I originally posted was because the copyright and patent laws of our country suck, but our country's ethics don't?Go try to "knock off" a song, book or corporate logo...etc. Are you implying that CFWebstore lifted code directly from your product or are you simply upset that they offer a viable product that offers "similar" features, though perhaps not as extensive, at a significantly lower price? I'm really just curious having never used either apart from checking out eval versions. I will tell you, though, that the implications behind your comments leave me with a negative impression of AbleCommerce unless you have some specific claim to make regarding the other product...it just sounds like sour grapes directed at a smaller competitor. Ken Wilson -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce knock-off
At 11:12 AM 4/20/00 -0700, you wrote: The ONLY reason I originally posted was because the copyright and patent laws of our country suck, but our country's ethics don't?Go try to "knock off" a song, book or corporate logo...etc. I take it you've never heard the phrase "inspired by." Songs, books, and logos are all derivative. Whether you incorporate an idea from a work or deliberately avoid it, all songs, books, and logos have pieces taken from multiple sources, even if unintentionally. There is very little new ground to cover in any of these fields EXCEPT which sources new work draws from. Of course, in those fields it's a sign of a good work to have someone draw from your ideas. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, remember? As a writer, I can tell you that when you write there are certain things that you do. You present work in a format appropriate to the subject matter, in language appropriate to the subject matter, in a way that you think appeals to the intended reader. Applying the same theory to this discussion, this other company has drawn from your company's ideas and made what they think are improvements. They make these improvements by drawing from other sources. They have used a format that suits the intention of the product and fits the intended user. If your product does the same thing and has the same intended user, they are likely to be similar. That isn't theft of ideas, that's completely natural. People can call it a knock-off, but knock-offs don't include improvements. They probably call it a knock-off because it seems similar. If you have a problem with this, I have to wonder why. It's not like they went in and stole your source code or it would be against the contracts they were under when they got the source, and therefore illegal. Open source doesn't mean you can take code out of it and incorporate it into a product. They built upon a good idea that already existed, but they added to the idea. And you sound very threatened by that. While your AuctionBuilder product may be very valuable, if you are threatened by AbleCommerce competition, that is the sign of a problem with the product. While focusing your company's efforts on this auction product and '*away* from AbleCommerce, which is what you are implying, AbleCommerce will lose technological ground. Instead of resting on your laurels, you could innovate with AbleCommerce-- add new features, make it more flexible, incorporate better techniques to get the same job done. It might delay the release of AuctionBuilder, but in the meantime, you wouldn't be losing ground. Allaire certainly didn't stop at ColdFusion version 1 or even version 2. Everyday people decide on new things to do on their websites; if your product can't keep up you will lose ground in the market and have only yourself to blame. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Able Commerce knock-off
- Original Message - From: Mike Randolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2000 19:12 The fusebox "like" AuctionBuilder product is ONE example of the future of our products, which we are releasing many this year. What does "fusebox like" mean - does it mean it conforms totally to fusebox, or it conforms to your interpretation of fusebox, or to your intepretation of what fusebox should be? I'm sure on the flexibility point we are the winner, as far as price goes we have set it FAR below all of our "honest competitors" and yet still have enough Define "honest". margin in it to allow for support, Research Development and exspansion of the company. IBM, Microsoft, OpenMarket, and Intershop hate running into us, our product is much easer to get started with than any of those products that offer "similar" levels of features and COMPANY SUPPORT. I think that applies to most CF based products of this type - that is the strength of CF. As for support - you are making the somewhat biased assumption that only you provide it. The ONLY reason I originally posted was because the copyright and patent laws of our country suck, but our country's ethics don't?Go try to "knock off" a song, book or corporate logo...etc. It is obvious to me that the reason you have gone to such extremes to defend your product is because you are seriously concerned about the competition. If you were not concerned about the competition, and your product stood on its own as unsurpassable, you wouldn't have to. You keep mentioning AuctionBuilder - this discussion is not about AuctionBuilder it is about Able Commerce - how about addressing the concerns of your potential customers? Adrian Cooper. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Able Commerce knock-off
Now that was probably the first post in this thread that was really worth reading.. Thanks SHane -Original Message- From: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: "Able Commerce knock-off" At 11:12 AM 4/20/00 -0700, you wrote: The ONLY reason I originally posted was because the copyright and patent laws of our country suck, but our country's ethics don't?Go try to "knock off" a song, book or corporate logo...etc. I take it you've never heard the phrase "inspired by." Songs, books, and logos are all derivative. Whether you incorporate an idea from a work or deliberately avoid it, all songs, books, and logos have pieces taken from multiple sources, even if unintentionally. There is very little new ground to cover in any of these fields EXCEPT which sources new work draws from. Of course, in those fields it's a sign of a good work to have someone draw from your ideas. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, remember? As a writer, I can tell you that when you write there are certain things that you do. You present work in a format appropriate to the subject matter, in language appropriate to the subject matter, in a way that you think appeals to the intended reader. Applying the same theory to this discussion, this other company has drawn from your company's ideas and made what they think are improvements. They make these improvements by drawing from other sources. They have used a format that suits the intention of the product and fits the intended user. If your product does the same thing and has the same intended user, they are likely to be similar. That isn't theft of ideas, that's completely natural. People can call it a knock-off, but knock-offs don't include improvements. They probably call it a knock-off because it seems similar. If you have a problem with this, I have to wonder why. It's not like they went in and stole your source code or it would be against the contracts they were under when they got the source, and therefore illegal. Open source doesn't mean you can take code out of it and incorporate it into a product. They built upon a good idea that already existed, but they added to the idea. And you sound very threatened by that. While your AuctionBuilder product may be very valuable, if you are threatened by AbleCommerce competition, that is the sign of a problem with the product. While focusing your company's efforts on this auction product and '*away* from AbleCommerce, which is what you are implying, AbleCommerce will lose technological ground. Instead of resting on your laurels, you could innovate with AbleCommerce-- add new features, make it more flexible, incorporate better techniques to get the same job done. It might delay the release of AuctionBuilder, but in the meantime, you wouldn't be losing ground. Allaire certainly didn't stop at ColdFusion version 1 or even version 2. Everyday people decide on new things to do on their websites; if your product can't keep up you will lose ground in the market and have only yourself to blame. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
