Re: Throttling CFMail
OK, I'm uploading the new improved code now. What I did, in a nutshell: * Created a mail spool table in the database (storing to/from/subject/htmlcontent/textcontent/etc.) * Created a series of CFC's: + one inserts a record into the spool table + one cfc returns top _x_ messages in a query object, ordered by spool time ascending so the oldest messages get sent first. I have the default set to 100 but that can be overriden + another cfc returns messages by spool ID, in case I need to force send a message + another CFC sets a sent value in the mail spool table once the message is sent * created a mail spool gateway that has a scheduled task that runs every 5 minutes, sending 100 messages at a time I still have some admin tools to create, but this will get me back in business. Thanks! Pete On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Dan Baughman dan.baugh...@gmail.comwrote: It's much more than just sending that many at once. Most recipient email servers will kick you out for sending too many, too fast, as well. ie. yahoo will ban you for 48 hours if you try to delivery too many emails in a short period of time. To delivery effectively you also need domain-specific throttling. Dan On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Pete Ruckelshauspruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I got dinged by my ISP for sending 2,000 email newsletters at once. Any ideas on how to throttle these emails so that they are sent in small batches, i.e. 100 per minute? Is there a simple way to accomplish this, or do I just need to write my own code that loops through and sends emails incrementally? You may have better luck just paying for SMTP services from a company who doesn't mind you sending that many emails at once. You might even open that conversation with your ISP and ask them if they would be willing to allow you to pay a little extra for the privilege of using their outbound SMTP a little more. Some ISPs have a business account or some other type of email accoutnt hat would allow you to do this. -Camer ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325757 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Throttling CFMail
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Pete Ruckelshauspruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I got dinged by my ISP for sending 2,000 email newsletters at once. Any ideas on how to throttle these emails so that they are sent in small batches, i.e. 100 per minute? Is there a simple way to accomplish this, or do I just need to write my own code that loops through and sends emails incrementally? You may have better luck just paying for SMTP services from a company who doesn't mind you sending that many emails at once. You might even open that conversation with your ISP and ask them if they would be willing to allow you to pay a little extra for the privilege of using their outbound SMTP a little more. Some ISPs have a business account or some other type of email accoutnt hat would allow you to do this. -Camer ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325681 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Throttling CFMail - The reasons it's a good practice
You may have better luck just paying for SMTP services from a company who doesn't mind you sending that many emails at once. Last night I sent some code which does works to throttle email. I use it all the time. If you can't sort out how it works feel free to give me a shout off-list. It's pretty straight forward. Just so there's no confusion on the reasons to throttle the email - it may be a provider issue, but it's also a receiver issue. Even if your provider let's you send out a zillion emails at once, the ISPs of the recipients may block your mail (or block/blacklist your mail server or mail server IP) as a spam source. Many of the receiving ISPs (Yahoo, AOL, etc.) have robots that monitor the incoming mail and automatically block suspects. You can be blocked for a lot of reasons, but a couple of things that often trigger the alarm is: 1) too many concurrent connections from a mail server; or 2) to large a volume of incoming mail in a short period of time If your service providers IP or mail server get's blocked/blacklisted, then you are likely to have some real issues with your service provider. There is much reason to throttle outbound email, and the service provider is only half the equation. You also throttle email for the benefit of the receiving ISPs. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4366 (20090825) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325682 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Throttling CFMail - The reasons it's a good practice
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Robert Harrisonrob...@austin-williams.com wrote: Many of the receiving ISPs (Yahoo, AOL, etc.) have robots that monitor the incoming mail and automatically block suspects. Most of these also have whitelist programs and feedback loops for unsubs. That's all very time consuming to manage though so it's not always the best route... -Cameron ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325692 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Throttling CFMail
It's much more than just sending that many at once. Most recipient email servers will kick you out for sending too many, too fast, as well. ie. yahoo will ban you for 48 hours if you try to delivery too many emails in a short period of time. To delivery effectively you also need domain-specific throttling. Dan On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Pete Ruckelshauspruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I got dinged by my ISP for sending 2,000 email newsletters at once. Any ideas on how to throttle these emails so that they are sent in small batches, i.e. 100 per minute? Is there a simple way to accomplish this, or do I just need to write my own code that loops through and sends emails incrementally? You may have better luck just paying for SMTP services from a company who doesn't mind you sending that many emails at once. You might even open that conversation with your ISP and ask them if they would be willing to allow you to pay a little extra for the privilege of using their outbound SMTP a little more. Some ISPs have a business account or some other type of email accoutnt hat would allow you to do this. -Camer ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325696 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Throttling CFMail
I believe you will need to account for that throttling in your code. Once your CFMAIL tag as run, the CF server will sent your messages as soon as the mail spooler runs next. I suggest a queue table of your own that you dump ALL the E-mails into and a job that polls that table and sends out x number of mails per minute. Or, an even better solution would be to set up your own SMTP server or pay to use one that will allow for your load. ISP's tend to get very cranky if they think you are a spammer since that tends to get them blacklisted and they don't want that. ~Brad Original Message Subject: Throttling CFMail From: Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com Date: Mon, August 24, 2009 3:58 pm To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com I got dinged by my ISP for sending 2,000 email newsletters at once. Any ideas on how to throttle these emails so that they are sent in small batches, i.e. 100 per minute? Is there a simple way to accomplish this, or do I just need to write my own code that loops through and sends emails incrementally? Thanks. Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325640 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Throttling CFMail
Pete, An old discussion on CFTalk that may still be valid http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:47090 http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:47090 On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:07 PM, b...@bradwood.com wrote: I believe you will need to account for that throttling in your code. Once your CFMAIL tag as run, the CF server will sent your messages as soon as the mail spooler runs next. I suggest a queue table of your own that you dump ALL the E-mails into and a job that polls that table and sends out x number of mails per minute. Or, an even better solution would be to set up your own SMTP server or pay to use one that will allow for your load. ISP's tend to get very cranky if they think you are a spammer since that tends to get them blacklisted and they don't want that. ~Brad Original Message Subject: Throttling CFMail From: Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com Date: Mon, August 24, 2009 3:58 pm To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com I got dinged by my ISP for sending 2,000 email newsletters at once. Any ideas on how to throttle these emails so that they are sent in small batches, i.e. 100 per minute? Is there a simple way to accomplish this, or do I just need to write my own code that loops through and sends emails incrementally? Thanks. Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325641 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Throttling CFMail
Good luck on the throttling. I never could get it to work but was able to come to an understanding with my Web Host's Sysadmin. Don't know what he did but I now send out 3,000+ with a single click using: CFLOOP list=#Form.SelectedRecipients# index=Recipient CFMAIL from=#Form.Sender# to=#Recipient# subject=#Form.Subject# type=HTML ***content*** /CFMAIL /CFLOOP and they loop thru the spooler smooth as silk. One other suggestion, based on sad experience, assuming yours is an opt-in list, be sure you give subscribers a readily available unsubscribe link. Many AOL users are too lazy to ask to be removed and will just click the This is spam button which puts your ISP's server on a blacklist. Dave -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 3:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Throttling CFMail I got dinged by my ISP for sending 2,000 email newsletters at once. Any ideas on how to throttle these emails so that they are sent in small batches, i.e. 100 per minute? Is there a simple way to accomplish this, or do I just need to write my own code that loops through and sends emails incrementally? Thanks. Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325644 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Throttling CFMail
The emails are completely opt-in, and there are links in the footer of each email to both immediately remove from the email list and also change their email preferences. I might just create a generic sent emails table with an accompanying scheduled task that runs every 5 minutes, grabs the top (x) unsent emails, sends them, and sets a sent timestamp. Thanks Pete On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:42 PM, David Long d...@northgoods.com wrote: Good luck on the throttling. I never could get it to work but was able to come to an understanding with my Web Host's Sysadmin. Don't know what he did but I now send out 3,000+ with a single click using: CFLOOP list=#Form.SelectedRecipients# index=Recipient CFMAIL from=#Form.Sender# to=#Recipient# subject=#Form.Subject# type=HTML ***content*** /CFMAIL /CFLOOP and they loop thru the spooler smooth as silk. One other suggestion, based on sad experience, assuming yours is an opt-in list, be sure you give subscribers a readily available unsubscribe link. Many AOL users are too lazy to ask to be removed and will just click the This is spam button which puts your ISP's server on a blacklist. Dave -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 3:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Throttling CFMail I got dinged by my ISP for sending 2,000 email newsletters at once. Any ideas on how to throttle these emails so that they are sent in small batches, i.e. 100 per minute? Is there a simple way to accomplish this, or do I just need to write my own code that loops through and sends emails incrementally? Thanks. Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325645 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Throttling CFMail
Below, I cut out a routine from a much larger program that builds and throttles mail. You should be able to follow the logic. You'll need to adjust for your use, but the bottom line is: 1. put mail addresses in a queue 2. loop and get X records from queue, send them 3. set a time condition 3. use an if condition to process mail only when the time condition is not the current minute and reset the time condition You should be able to follow the logic. I use the all the time and it works flawlessly. You can throttle mail to any rate you want this way. This runs in the background so you don't have to wait for processing to finish. Good Luck, Robert Harrison cfsetting requesttimeout=54000 cfset send_limit=20 !--- the number of mails to go out per minute --- cfset ntime=#Now()# cfset process=1 cfloop condition=#process# eq 1 cfif ntime lte now() cfset ntime=#DateAdd(n,1,#ntime#)# !--- this gets the mail to send this loop from a mail queue previously populated, that's probably where you are running your CFMAIL --- cfquery name=queued datasource=#dsn# SELECT TOP #send_limit# * FROM tbl_mail_queue /cfquery cfif queued.recordcount gte 1 cfloop query=queued !--- This is the start of processing for each mail --- cfif isEmail(queued.email) is true cfmail to=#trim(queued.email)# from=#trim(mail_data.sender)# failto = #trim(mail_data.bounces)# subject=#trim(mail_data.subject)# server=#trim(bulk_smtpid)# spoolEnable=yes !--- YOUR MAIL CONTENT GOES HERE --- /cfmail /cfif !--- this is the end of processing for each mail record --- !--- clears sent mail from the queue --- cfquery datasource=#dsn# DELETE From tbl_mail_queue WHERE id=#queued.id# /cfquery /cfloop cfelse cfset process=0 !--- stops processing loop --- cfbreak /cfif !--- if records found in queue --- /cfif!--- time tag --- cfflush /cfloop _ From: David Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com] To: cf-talk [mailto:cf-t...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:42:11 -0400 Subject: RE: Throttling CFMail Good luck on the throttling. I never could get it to work but was able to come to an understanding with my Web Host's Sysadmin. Don't know what he did but I now send out 3,000+ with a single click using: CFLOOP list=#Form.SelectedRecipients# index=Recipient CFMAIL from=#Form.Sender# to=#Recipient# subject=#Form.Subject# type=HTML ***content*** /CFMAIL /CFLOOP and they loop thru the spooler smooth as silk. One other suggestion, based on sad experience, assuming yours is an opt-in list, be sure you give subscribers a readily available unsubscribe link. Many AOL users are too lazy to ask to be removed and will just click the This is spam button which puts your ISP's server on a blacklist. Dave -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 3:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Throttling CFMail I got dinged by my ISP for sending 2,000 email newsletters at once. Any ideas on how to throttle these emails so that they are sent in small batches, i.e. 100 per minute? Is there a simple way to accomplish this, or do I just need to write my own code that loops through and sends emails incrementally? Thanks. Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325649 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Throttling CFMail
One thing you could do instead of calling cfmail insert the details into a DB table (to,from, cc, subject, type, content, etc)... then have a scheduled task that runs every minute send out 100 emails from the table and flag them as sent. Then, it takes a minimum of 20 minutes to send out 2000 messages. And of course you can adjust that speed by changing the number of emails it does per interval. -- Rick Root CFFM - Open Source Coldfusion File Manager http://www.opensourcecf.com/cffm ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325650 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Throttling CFMail
That's exactly what the routine I sent out a few minutes ago does. Robert _ From: Rick Root [mailto:rick.r...@webworksllc.com] To: cf-talk [mailto:cf-t...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:41:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Throttling CFMail One thing you could do instead of calling cfmail insert the details into a DB table (to,from, cc, subject, type, content, etc)... then have a scheduled task that runs every minute send out 100 emails from the table and flag them as sent. Then, it takes a minimum of 20 minutes to send out 2000 messages. And of course you can adjust that speed by changing the number of emails it does per interval. -- Rick Root CFFM - Open Source Coldfusion File Manager http://www.opensourcecf.com/cffm ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325651 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Throttling CFMail
Heh, sorry. That's essentially what we do when we sent bulk mail where I work... except instead of a scheduled task I have an event gateway that fires off every minute (I wrote a very simple interval gateway for this purpose, just google simple interval gateway) Rick On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Robert Harrisonrob...@austin-williams.com wrote: That's exactly what the routine I sent out a few minutes ago does. Robert _ From: Rick Root [mailto:rick.r...@webworksllc.com] To: cf-talk [mailto:cf-t...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:41:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Throttling CFMail One thing you could do instead of calling cfmail insert the details into a DB table (to,from, cc, subject, type, content, etc)... then have a scheduled task that runs every minute send out 100 emails from the table and flag them as sent. Then, it takes a minimum of 20 minutes to send out 2000 messages. And of course you can adjust that speed by changing the number of emails it does per interval. -- Rick Root CFFM - Open Source Coldfusion File Manager http://www.opensourcecf.com/cffm ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325652 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Throttling CFMAIL
cf_sleep in the tag gallery Gary cfdev.com http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message - From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Throttling CFMAIL Does anyone know how I would be able to throttle a batch of cfmail processes? For instance, let's say I've got a database of 1000 e-mail addresses (opt-in of course), and I want to wait 30 seconds between each one that get's sent out. Any way I can do this? Thanks, Dennis St. John PC1, Inc. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
You could use a meta=refresh for whatever interval you wanted. Then use a session variable to keep track of what record your on and increment it every time the page loads. Make sense? Rick -Original Message- From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Throttling CFMAIL Does anyone know how I would be able to throttle a batch of cfmail processes? For instance, let's say I've got a database of 1000 e-mail addresses (opt-in of course), and I want to wait 30 seconds between each one that get's sent out. Any way I can do this? Thanks, Dennis St. John PC1, Inc. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
cf_sleep in the tag gallery Using CF_Sleep to pause 30 seconds 1000 times is probably not a very good idea. You'd be tying up a CF thread for 500 minutes, and CF would probably kill the thread way before the timeout was reached. I'm not exactly sure why you would want spend 8 hours and 20 minutes sending out 1000 messages. Maybe you could enlighten us as to the reason you think you need to do this? There might be a better solution than slowing CFMAIL down. As your question stands, I would say you best bet would probably be to set up a scheduled event that runs every 30 seconds, sending out one email each time. Again, why one would do this escapes me. -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Gary cfdev.com http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message - From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Throttling CFMAIL Does anyone know how I would be able to throttle a batch of cfmail processes? For instance, let's say I've got a database of 1000 e-mail addresses (opt-in of course), and I want to wait 30 seconds between each one that get's sent out. Any way I can do this? Thanks, Dennis St. John PC1, Inc. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
Did you mean cfx_sleep? If so, I don't know if that will work since I am only using 1 cfmail inference in my code, upon which all 1,000 e-mail addresses get passed to it at once. Oh, just saw Cameron's reply come in, which I will answer. Dennis -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Gary cfdev.com http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message - From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Throttling CFMAIL Does anyone know how I would be able to throttle a batch of cfmail processes? For instance, let's say I've got a database of 1000 e-mail addresses (opt-in of course), and I want to wait 30 seconds between each one that get's sent out. Any way I can do this? Thanks, Dennis St. John PC1, Inc. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
Ok Cameron. Here's the deal. I run the web site for ColoradoRunner.com. On that web site, you will notice that we collect e-mail addresses from those that opt to give it to us, in the form of an e-mail collection box on the home page, as well as the contest for the free shoe give away each and every week. Anyways, we currently have about 7,000 opt-in e-mail addresses in our database, which we send out bi-weekly (or so) e-mails to, through a custom CF app I've written. Well, each time we send out a mailing, ALL 1,500 aol.com e-mails get returned to us. I believe it's because the aol.com mail servers think that we are spamming them (which we are not). So, my thinking is that if we stagger the outgoing mail, the aol.com mail servers may let the mail through. Everyone else using other ISP's gets the mailing fine. Make sense? Any suggestions? Thanks! Dennis -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Using CF_Sleep to pause 30 seconds 1000 times is probably not a very good idea. You'd be tying up a CF thread for 500 minutes, and CF would probably kill the thread way before the timeout was reached. I'm not exactly sure why you would want spend 8 hours and 20 minutes sending out 1000 messages. Maybe you could enlighten us as to the reason you think you need to do this? There might be a better solution than slowing CFMAIL down. As your question stands, I would say you best bet would probably be to set up a scheduled event that runs every 30 seconds, sending out one email each time. Again, why one would do this escapes me. -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Gary cfdev.com http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message - From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Throttling CFMAIL Does anyone know how I would be able to throttle a batch of cfmail processes? For instance, let's say I've got a database of 1000 e-mail addresses (opt-in of course), and I want to wait 30 seconds between each one that get's sent out. Any way I can do this? Thanks, Dennis St. John PC1, Inc. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Throttling CFMAIL
why one would do this escapes me. I have several clients on my server with CF-based mail lists, (addresses collected from their web sites, or added in via an admin interface). Since they control their actions as to when and how much mail they send, throttling the rate is a safety precaution. This code will literally dribble mail out at a rate of 600 per hour, and the user has to leave it on their screen while it runs. Certainly not more suited for anything more than a mom-and-pop mail list, but it works without tying up threads for an extended period of time. You could easily crank up the mail rate by adjusting the page refresh interval, or upping the rate CFMAIL sends, or a bit of both. Also, if you don't have CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 running on your server, you should. Lowering the default spooler interval in CF Admin is a good idea too. Hope this helps, - Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com - CFSET variables.DataSource=foohbarorg CFSET url.Subject=Security Advisory CFSET variables.PersonFrom=[EMAIL PROTECTED] CFSET variables.MailServer=mail.mysecretbase.com CFQUERY name=MailRun datasource=#variables.DataSource# SELECT MailList.Email FROM MailList WHERE 0=0 /cfquery CFPARAM name=ThisStart default=1 CFIF ThisStart GT MailRun.RecordCount htmlheadtitleFINISHED/title/headbody BGCOLOR=#FF ONLOAD=history.go(1) FONT FACE=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times H1FONT COLOR=#008000All Done/FONT/H1 BFONT COLOR=#80You should close this browser window/FONT!/B PBDo NOT press your BACK button/B to leave, or you could wind up sending some email messages all over again. /FONT /body/html CFELSE CFSET NextStart=ThisStart+10 CFSET NextDisplay=ThisStart+9 CFIF NextDisplay GT MailRun.RecordCountCFSET NextDisplay=MailRun.RecordCount/CFIF HTML CFOUTPUT meta http-equiv=REFRESH content=60; URL=mailit.cfm?ThisStart=#NextStart#SUBJECT=#url.Subject# /cfoutput HEADTITLELow Volume Mass Mailer/TITLE/HEADbody BGCOLOR=#FF ONLOAD=history.go(1) FONT FACE=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times CFMAIL TO=#MailRun.Email# FROM=#variables.PersonFrom# SUBJECT=#url.Subject# SERVER=#variables.MailServer# QUERY=MailRun MAXROWS=10 STARTROW=#ThisStart# TYPE=HTML blahblahblah /CFMAIL CFOUTPUT H1FONT COLOR=##80Sending messages/FONT #ThisStart# FONT COLOR=##80thru/FONT #NextDisplay#/H1 BFONT COLOR=##008000Total to send:/FONT #MailRun.RecordCount#/BP /CFOUTPUT This page will send email in batches of 10 messages at 60-second intervals, for a total rate of 600 messages per hour. You should leave your computer completely untouched and wait for this job to complete. When it finishes, you will be notified. /FONT /body/html /CFIF ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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I use cfx_sleep for this all the time. It has worked well for me to date. The largest list I have used it on is 5500 records with a 1 second wait time. Tony Gruen -Original Message- From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Did you mean cfx_sleep? If so, I don't know if that will work since I am only using 1 cfmail inference in my code, upon which all 1,000 e-mail addresses get passed to it at once. Oh, just saw Cameron's reply come in, which I will answer. Dennis -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Gary cfdev.com http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message - From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Throttling CFMAIL Does anyone know how I would be able to throttle a batch of cfmail processes? For instance, let's say I've got a database of 1000 e-mail addresses (opt-in of course), and I want to wait 30 seconds between each one that get's sent out. Any way I can do this? Thanks, Dennis St. John PC1, Inc. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Make sense? Any suggestions? Yes, and yes. First, are you 100% sure that your domain hasn't been added to AOL's list of spamming domains? If that is the case, it's not going to matter how you send them out. If you send a message from that domain to AOL.com using outlook does it also bounce? Also, legend has it that some ISP's have been known to block CFMAIL generated mail if it contains the X-Mailer: Allaire ColdFusion header. What version of CF are you using? I don't think the newer versin do this anymore. I seriously doubt it's the rate you are sending the messages that's causing your problem. If you want to slow down your outbound mail a little bit, you can change the reg key at HLM Software Allaire ColdFusion CurrentVersion Server SpoolerInterval to a higher value. The number in this key is the amount of time (in seconds) that CF waits before sending a batch of 100 email messages to the SMTP server. Increase it to 120 and it will forward 100 messages every two minutes. What exactly do the bounced mails say? There should be a reason listed in the bounce message. -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Ok Cameron. Here's the deal. I run the web site for ColoradoRunner.com. On that web site, you will notice that we collect e-mail addresses from those that opt to give it to us, in the form of an e-mail collection box on the home page, as well as the contest for the free shoe give away each and every week. Anyways, we currently have about 7,000 opt-in e-mail addresses in our database, which we send out bi-weekly (or so) e-mails to, through a custom CF app I've written. Well, each time we send out a mailing, ALL 1,500 aol.com e-mails get returned to us. I believe it's because the aol.com mail servers think that we are spamming them (which we are not). So, my thinking is that if we stagger the outgoing mail, the aol.com mail servers may let the mail through. Everyone else using other ISP's gets the mailing fine. Make sense? Any suggestions? Thanks! Dennis -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Using CF_Sleep to pause 30 seconds 1000 times is probably not a very good idea. You'd be tying up a CF thread for 500 minutes, and CF would probably kill the thread way before the timeout was reached. I'm not exactly sure why you would want spend 8 hours and 20 minutes sending out 1000 messages. Maybe you could enlighten us as to the reason you think you need to do this? There might be a better solution than slowing CFMAIL down. As your question stands, I would say you best bet would probably be to set up a scheduled event that runs every 30 seconds, sending out one email each time. Again, why one would do this escapes me. -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Gary cfdev.com http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message - From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Throttling CFMAIL Does anyone know how I would be able to throttle a batch of cfmail processes? For instance, let's say I've got a database of 1000 e-mail addresses (opt-in of course), and I want to wait 30 seconds between each one that get's sent out. Any way I can do this? Thanks, Dennis St. John PC1, Inc. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
Also, if you don't have CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 running on your server, you should. What an awesome tag! :) -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Throttling CFMAIL
There could be several reasons for AOL returning the mail and I don't think throttling them will help at all. One thing that AOL has recently implemented is bouncing mail from servers without a proper RDNS. So, I would check to see what the reasons for the bounces are and try to rectify the problem. HTH, Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. www.CoolFusion.com 631-737-4668 x101 inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Intelligent Mail Server Join the DevCon community at www.coolfusion.com/devcon - Original Message - From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:10 PM Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Ok Cameron. Here's the deal. I run the web site for ColoradoRunner.com. On that web site, you will notice that we collect e-mail addresses from those that opt to give it to us, in the form of an e-mail collection box on the home page, as well as the contest for the free shoe give away each and every week. Anyways, we currently have about 7,000 opt-in e-mail addresses in our database, which we send out bi-weekly (or so) e-mails to, through a custom CF app I've written. Well, each time we send out a mailing, ALL 1,500 aol.com e-mails get returned to us. I believe it's because the aol.com mail servers think that we are spamming them (which we are not). So, my thinking is that if we stagger the outgoing mail, the aol.com mail servers may let the mail through. Everyone else using other ISP's gets the mailing fine. Make sense? Any suggestions? Thanks! Dennis -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Using CF_Sleep to pause 30 seconds 1000 times is probably not a very good idea. You'd be tying up a CF thread for 500 minutes, and CF would probably kill the thread way before the timeout was reached. I'm not exactly sure why you would want spend 8 hours and 20 minutes sending out 1000 messages. Maybe you could enlighten us as to the reason you think you need to do this? There might be a better solution than slowing CFMAIL down. As your question stands, I would say you best bet would probably be to set up a scheduled event that runs every 30 seconds, sending out one email each time. Again, why one would do this escapes me. -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Gary cfdev.com http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message - From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Throttling CFMAIL Does anyone know how I would be able to throttle a batch of cfmail processes? For instance, let's say I've got a database of 1000 e-mail addresses (opt-in of course), and I want to wait 30 seconds between each one that get's sent out. Any way I can do this? Thanks, Dennis St. John PC1, Inc. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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We had the same problem at www.ontvstore.com with AOL to get around it I sort the list by the the email address - that seems to stop the bunching of aol address's and it seems to work fine. Richard - Original Message - From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:10 AM Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Ok Cameron. Here's the deal. I run the web site for ColoradoRunner.com. On that web site, you will notice that we collect e-mail addresses from those that opt to give it to us, in the form of an e-mail collection box on the home page, as well as the contest for the free shoe give away each and every week. Anyways, we currently have about 7,000 opt-in e-mail addresses in our database, which we send out bi-weekly (or so) e-mails to, through a custom CF app I've written. Well, each time we send out a mailing, ALL 1,500 aol.com e-mails get returned to us. I believe it's because the aol.com mail servers think that we are spamming them (which we are not). So, my thinking is that if we stagger the outgoing mail, the aol.com mail servers may let the mail through. Everyone else using other ISP's gets the mailing fine. Make sense? Any suggestions? Thanks! Dennis -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Using CF_Sleep to pause 30 seconds 1000 times is probably not a very good idea. You'd be tying up a CF thread for 500 minutes, and CF would probably kill the thread way before the timeout was reached. I'm not exactly sure why you would want spend 8 hours and 20 minutes sending out 1000 messages. Maybe you could enlighten us as to the reason you think you need to do this? There might be a better solution than slowing CFMAIL down. As your question stands, I would say you best bet would probably be to set up a scheduled event that runs every 30 seconds, sending out one email each time. Again, why one would do this escapes me. -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Gary cfdev.com http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message - From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Throttling CFMAIL Does anyone know how I would be able to throttle a batch of cfmail processes? For instance, let's say I've got a database of 1000 e-mail addresses (opt-in of course), and I want to wait 30 seconds between each one that get's sent out. Any way I can do this? Thanks, Dennis St. John PC1, Inc. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Throttling CFMAIL
If you are having a problem with AOL, you should contact their support lines. Usually it has to do with a DNS issue with your mail server. AOL doesn't allow emails to come in that have problems with DNS or reverse DNS lookup because of all the spam they get. We had the same problem and it turned out to be a problem with a reverse DNS lookup on our mail server domain. Now we send thousands of billing statements to AOL customers with no problems. tom DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ok Cameron. Here's the deal. I run the web site for ColoradoRunner.com. On that web site, you will notice that we collect e-mail addresses from those that opt to give it to us, in the form of an e-mail collection box on the home page, as well as the contest for the free shoe give away each and every week. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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AOL would definitely reject a single mail with 1500 recipients... Howie - Original Message - From: Carlisle, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:20 PM Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Dunno if this would work. Just a thought. Put all 1500 addresses in the BCC field of one message (will BCC handle that?). Give the work to AOL's server. *shrug* EC ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Make sense? Any suggestions? Yes, and yes. First, are you 100% sure that your domain hasn't been added to AOL's list of spamming domains? If that is the case, it's not going to matter how you send them out. If you send a message from that domain to AOL.com using outlook does it also bounce? I am pretty sure our domain hasn't been added to any list of spamming domains filter over at aol. Here's why: We have a test list setup in our mail sending admin app, with a couple of aol.com e-mail addresses which we have access to. Whenever we send out the initial test mailing to make sure everything looks ok, we do receive those e-mails in our aol.com inbox. I am also able to send e-mail from my personal Outlook inbox to my aol.com account using the same mail server no problem. So, this is the reason that I believe aol.com has a filter up that says, Don't accept over X number of e-mails in a certain time period from a given smtp server. Also, legend has it that some ISP's have been known to block CFMAIL generated mail if it contains the X-Mailer: Allaire ColdFusion header. What version of CF are you using? I don't think the newer versin do this anymore. I am using CF 4.51 Enterprise. Any idea how to take out this header? I seriously doubt it's the rate you are sending the messages that's causing your problem. If you want to slow down your outbound mail a little bit, you can change the reg key at HLM Software Allaire ColdFusion CurrentVersion Server SpoolerInterval to a higher value. The number in this key is the amount of time (in seconds) that CF waits before sending a batch of 100 email messages to the SMTP server. Increase it to 120 and it will forward 100 messages every two minutes. I did not know about this reg setting, but will certainly give it a try on our next mailing. What exactly do the bounced mails say? There should be a reason listed in the bounce message. Yes, here's an example of one: This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the return message that I am getting from my SMTP server (the SMTP server included in IIS5 for Win 2000). Thanks for all your insight and help! Dennis -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 2:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Ok Cameron. Here's the deal. I run the web site for ColoradoRunner.com. On that web site, you will notice that we collect e-mail addresses from those that opt to give it to us, in the form of an e-mail collection box on the home page, as well as the contest for the free shoe give away each and every week. Anyways, we currently have about 7,000 opt-in e-mail addresses in our database, which we send out bi-weekly (or so) e-mails to, through a custom CF app I've written. Well, each time we send out a mailing, ALL 1,500 aol.com e-mails get returned to us. I believe it's because the aol.com mail servers think that we are spamming them (which we are not). So, my thinking is that if we stagger the outgoing mail, the aol.com mail servers may let the mail through. Everyone else using other ISP's gets the mailing fine. Make sense? Any suggestions? Thanks! Dennis -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Using CF_Sleep to pause 30 seconds 1000 times is probably not a very good idea. You'd be tying up a CF thread for 500 minutes, and CF would probably kill the thread way before the timeout was reached. I'm not exactly sure why you would want spend 8 hours and 20 minutes sending out 1000 messages. Maybe you could enlighten us as to the reason you think you need to do this? There might be a better solution than slowing CFMAIL down. As your question stands, I would say you best bet would probably be to set up a scheduled event that runs every 30 seconds, sending out one email each time. Again, why one would do this escapes me. -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Throttling CFMAIL cf_sleep in the tag gallery Gary cfdev.com http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message
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What exactly does this tag do? Dennis -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Also, if you don't have CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 running on your server, you should. What an awesome tag! :) -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Oh boy - never seen this tag (CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3). I have searched the dev exchange with no results. Could you please advise me where to find it? This is exactly what we need. Tony Gruen -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Also, if you don't have CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 running on your server, you should. What an awesome tag! :) -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Thanks Tom. This does make sense, since my current mail server doesn't have a RDNS setup at the current time. It will shortly though... guaranteed. I'll keep the list posted as to whether this works or not. Thanks! Dennis -Original Message- From: tom muck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Throttling CFMAIL If you are having a problem with AOL, you should contact their support lines. Usually it has to do with a DNS issue with your mail server. AOL doesn't allow emails to come in that have problems with DNS or reverse DNS lookup because of all the spam they get. We had the same problem and it turned out to be a problem with a reverse DNS lookup on our mail server domain. Now we send thousands of billing statements to AOL customers with no problems. tom DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ok Cameron. Here's the deal. I run the web site for ColoradoRunner.com. On that web site, you will notice that we collect e-mail addresses from those that opt to give it to us, in the form of an e-mail collection box on the home page, as well as the contest for the free shoe give away each and every week. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
If you pump out too much mail too fast via CFMAIL, CF dumps it into the c:\CFUSION\UNDELIVR folder. This tag moves that mail right back into c:\cfusion\mail, so CF can try again (and again etc.). There are a few options,but thats the gist of it. --Matt-- -- Original Message -- from: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:14:08 -0600 What exactly does this tag do? Dennis -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Also, if you don't have CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 running on your server, you should. What an awesome tag! :) -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
Oops and duh. Named those folders both wrong in previous post. c:\cfusion\mail\undelivr and c:\cfusion\mail\spool --Matt-- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
The link below doesn't work for me, and a search of CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 in the Developer Gallery turns up nothing. Is this a joke? The tag sounds too good to be true. Any ideas? Tom At 03:36 PM 8/30/01, you wrote: Found it - google returned the dev forum link. http://devex.allaire.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=05D90D06-6C6B-11D5-83 F100508B94F85A Tony -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Also, if you don't have CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 running on your server, you should. What an awesome tag! :) -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
FALSE ALARM - I found it - Thanks! Tom At 03:36 PM 8/30/01, you wrote: Found it - google returned the dev forum link. http://devex.allaire.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=05D90D06-6C6B-11D5-83 F100508B94F85A Tony -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Also, if you don't have CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 running on your server, you should. What an awesome tag! :) -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
This tag moves that mail right back into c:\cfusion\mail, so CF can try again (and again etc.). There are a few options,but thats the gist of it. To me, the biggest advantage of CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 is being able to specify a list of alternate SMTP servers to try in case your mail's not being delivered due to a failure to on your primary mail machine. -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL If you pump out too much mail too fast via CFMAIL, CF dumps it into the c:\CFUSION\UNDELIVR folder. This tag moves that mail right back into c:\cfusion\mail, so CF can try again (and again etc.). There are a few options,but thats the gist of it. --Matt-- -- Original Message -- from: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:14:08 -0600 What exactly does this tag do? Dennis -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Throttling CFMAIL Also, if you don't have CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 running on your server, you should. What an awesome tag! :) -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Throttling CFMAIL
At 04:27 PM 8/30/2001 -0400, you wrote: The link below doesn't work for me, and a search of CF_ResendUndeliverableMail3 in the Developer Gallery turns up nothing. Is this a joke? The tag sounds too good to be true. Any ideas? No, the theory definitely works. Or used pre-5. I don't know about 5. Used to do the same thing for a mailing list script I wrote. --min ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
