RE: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-08 Thread Andrew Tyrone
Hi Damien,

I've been evaluating PrimalScript 3.1 and it looks like a winner.Sam Neff
has mentioned it numerous times so I figured I'd check it out.It does all
of what you are asking, and more.Also, the download is under 4MB, and it
uses a little over 10MB on disk.I just slapped a bunch of help files in a
separate directory (including CFMX ones from DWMX) and pointed PrimalScript
at them; very easy.This gives you context help via the F1 key when you are
within a CFMX tag or function.Also, PrimalSense is already configured to
give you the CFMX tag-insight popups you've come to know and love.The only
thing it lacks for me is CSS support, but I use TopStyle 3.1 for that and I
love it.

There are plenty of ways you can customize this tool.One I particularly
like is being able to have one of your open documents be an actual web
page, so you can keep a reference link on your toolbar handy to specific web
references and whatnot.Another thing I like is you can have the icon
associated with each file type you open display next to the tabbed filename,
so it's easy to tell at a glance what file types are without looking at the
extension.

I like DWMX a lot more than I used to, but it's still a little quirky for
me.One of the things Jim Davis pointed out is the file browser -- yech!I
always mis-read what level I am on.Also, I've found that DWMX always
freezes up for a minute every now and then when I work with a mapped drive
off my local server.I know this to be the exact cause because I can work
locally for hours on end and that never happens (this is with the 7.0.1
updater).

One thing I WILL say about DWMX is that it encompasses all of these features
and more, and I really like the built-in CSS support, but I still find
myself gravitating away from it time and again.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

I'm looking for a HTML/CFML editor for Windows with the following
requirements:

1. A projects system for easily managing a limited directory structure
regarding an individual project.A simple file browser could suffice.

2. _Good_ syntax highlighting, i.e. able to highlight _javascript_ and
HTML and CSS in the same file.

3. Good basic features, similar to EditPlus (http://www.editplus.com/).

4. Some sort of snippets / clip-book feature, for often-used code
snippets.Ideally these should be programmable like NoteTab.

5. Small footprint as my laptop only has 64meg of RAM currently.

6. Code hinting, e.g. I enter cfquery and it shows a tooltip of the
attributes.

I've gotten good enough with CFML and CSS that I really don't need
Dreamweaver's WYSIWYG facilities any longer and would like something
light enough to run on my new laptop at work (500Mhz P3).

In effect I'm looking for a cross between EditPlus (for its wonderful
basic functionality) and NotePad (for is programmability), with a few
extras.

Any suggestions?

I'm not interested in Eclipse as it is too big for me, and a little OTT
for basic text editing.
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RE: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-08 Thread Micha Schopman
Only for real CF developers ... some inspiration in your projects ;)

http://www.ministryofsound.com/asx/videos/EricPrydz/EricPrydz_CallonMe_L
ateNightVersion_300k.asx

 
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RE: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-08 Thread Jason Reichenbach
Try HTMLKIT from www.chami.com http://www.chami.com/ 

Its free and you can get plugins for pretty much whatever you want.

Jay Reichenbach

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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

 I can't see where Dreamweaver wont do everything you want.
 Just change to code view and you're home and hosed.

Damian said his new laptop will only have 64 MB of RAM! In that case, I
suspect he'd see sub-optimal performance with Dreamweaver.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444

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Re: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-08 Thread Damien McKenna
On Sep 7, 2004, at 6:33 PM, Ian Skinner wrote:
 At least some of the features you want, and the smallest foot print I 
 think you will find.I believe the editor still fits on a single 3 ½ 
 floppy disk!
 Crimson Editor

I must say that I'm not sure I've ever seen this one before, but it is 
really great!It is _very_ similar to EditPlus only it seems to be a 
bit more actively developed.I'm going to send some suggestions to the 
author and see what he thinks.I think it is going to replace EditPlus 
on all my systems though..
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Re: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-08 Thread Damien McKenna
On Sep 8, 2004, at 9:15 AM, Jason Reichenbach wrote:
 Try HTMLKIT from www.chami.com http://www.chami.com/

I tried that but..

1. The FTP system sucketh verily.Instead of separating local vs FTP 
files, FTP should be considered the destination to where local files 
are uploaded to when completed.

2. It feels very kludgy, with so many plugins overlapping functionality 
but many of them not doing everything they should.

.. to start with ;-)
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Re: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-08 Thread G
I used to love Visual Slick Edit.but i have no idea how it's performance would be on a machine with 64MB RAM.
- Original Message - 
From: Damien McKenna 
To: CF-Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 2:07 PM
Subject: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

I'm looking for a HTML/CFML editor for Windows with the following 
requirements:

1. A projects system for easily managing a limited directory structure 
regarding an individual project.A simple file browser could suffice.

2. _Good_ syntax highlighting, i.e. able to highlight _javascript_ and 
HTML and CSS in the same file.

3. Good basic features, similar to EditPlus (http://www.editplus.com/).

4. Some sort of snippets / clip-book feature, for often-used code 
snippets.Ideally these should be programmable like NoteTab.

5. Small footprint as my laptop only has 64meg of RAM currently.

6. Code hinting, e.g. I enter cfquery and it shows a tooltip of the 
attributes.

I've gotten good enough with CFML and CSS that I really don't need 
Dreamweaver's WYSIWYG facilities any longer and would like something 
light enough to run on my new laptop at work (500Mhz P3).

In effect I'm looking for a cross between EditPlus (for its wonderful 
basic functionality) and NotePad (for is programmability), with a few 
extras.

Any suggestions?

I'm not interested in Eclipse as it is too big for me, and a little OTT 
for basic text editing.
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Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Damien McKenna
I'm looking for a HTML/CFML editor for Windows with the following 
requirements:

1. A projects system for easily managing a limited directory structure 
regarding an individual project.A simple file browser could suffice.

2. _Good_ syntax highlighting, i.e. able to highlight _javascript_ and 
HTML and CSS in the same file.

3. Good basic features, similar to EditPlus (http://www.editplus.com/).

4. Some sort of snippets / clip-book feature, for often-used code 
snippets.Ideally these should be programmable like NoteTab.

5. Small footprint as my laptop only has 64meg of RAM currently.

6. Code hinting, e.g. I enter cfquery and it shows a tooltip of the 
attributes.

I've gotten good enough with CFML and CSS that I really don't need 
Dreamweaver's WYSIWYG facilities any longer and would like something 
light enough to run on my new laptop at work (500Mhz P3).

In effect I'm looking for a cross between EditPlus (for its wonderful 
basic functionality) and NotePad (for is programmability), with a few 
extras.

Any suggestions?

I'm not interested in Eclipse as it is too big for me, and a little OTT 
for basic text editing.
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Re: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Lawrence Ng
I'd stick with Studio.. using it for years and still do.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/7/2004 12:07:33 PM 
I'm looking for a HTML/CFML editor for Windows with the following 
requirements:

1. A projects system for easily managing a limited directory structure

regarding an individual project.A simple file browser could suffice.

2. _Good_ syntax highlighting, i.e. able to highlight _javascript_ and 
HTML and CSS in the same file.

3. Good basic features, similar to EditPlus
(http://www.editplus.com/).

4. Some sort of snippets / clip-book feature, for often-used code 
snippets.Ideally these should be programmable like NoteTab.

5. Small footprint as my laptop only has 64meg of RAM currently.

6. Code hinting, e.g. I enter cfquery and it shows a tooltip of the 
attributes.

I've gotten good enough with CFML and CSS that I really don't need 
Dreamweaver's WYSIWYG facilities any longer and would like something 
light enough to run on my new laptop at work (500Mhz P3).

In effect I'm looking for a cross between EditPlus (for its wonderful 
basic functionality) and NotePad (for is programmability), with a few 
extras.

Any suggestions?

I'm not interested in Eclipse as it is too big for me, and a little OTT

for basic text editing.
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Re: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Anything wrong with CF Studio or HomeSite+ ??

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RE: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Paul Vernon
Homesite/Homesite+... if you have the dreamweaver CD you should find it on
there

 
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Re: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Andrew Dixon
Homesite+ 5.5?

- Original Message -
From: Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:07:33 -0400
Subject: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm looking for a HTML/CFML editor for Windows with the following 
 requirements:

 1. A projects system for easily managing a limited directory structure 
 regarding an individual project.A simple file browser could suffice.

 2. _Good_ syntax highlighting, i.e. able to highlight _javascript_ and 
 HTML and CSS in the same file.

 3. Good basic features, similar to EditPlus (http://www.editplus.com/).

 4. Some sort of snippets / clip-book feature, for often-used code 
 snippets.Ideally these should be programmable like NoteTab.

 5. Small footprint as my laptop only has 64meg of RAM currently.

 6. Code hinting, e.g. I enter cfquery and it shows a tooltip of the 
 attributes.

 I've gotten good enough with CFML and CSS that I really don't need 
 Dreamweaver's WYSIWYG facilities any longer and would like something 
 light enough to run on my new laptop at work (500Mhz P3).

 In effect I'm looking for a cross between EditPlus (for its wonderful 
 basic functionality) and NotePad (for is programmability), with a few 
 extras.

 Any suggestions?

 I'm not interested in Eclipse as it is too big for me, and a little OTT 
 for basic text editing.
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Re: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Lawrence Ng
sorry. I did not clarify my response earlier. I'm using Studio 5 not the
Studio MX suite they have which includes Dreamweaver. I think it's not
longer in production. I like it because u could connect to datasources
with it and has a cleaner interface. I'm not a designer and that's why I
like Studio 5.

there use to be a free one called 1stPage but that was years ago which
had the same homesite/studio look to it. 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/7/2004 12:07:33 PM 
I'm looking for a HTML/CFML editor for Windows with the following 
requirements:

1. A projects system for easily managing a limited directory structure

regarding an individual project.A simple file browser could suffice.

2. _Good_ syntax highlighting, i.e. able to highlight _javascript_ and 
HTML and CSS in the same file.

3. Good basic features, similar to EditPlus
(http://www.editplus.com/).

4. Some sort of snippets / clip-book feature, for often-used code 
snippets.Ideally these should be programmable like NoteTab.

5. Small footprint as my laptop only has 64meg of RAM currently.

6. Code hinting, e.g. I enter cfquery and it shows a tooltip of the 
attributes.

I've gotten good enough with CFML and CSS that I really don't need 
Dreamweaver's WYSIWYG facilities any longer and would like something 
light enough to run on my new laptop at work (500Mhz P3).

In effect I'm looking for a cross between EditPlus (for its wonderful 
basic functionality) and NotePad (for is programmability), with a few 
extras.

Any suggestions?

I'm not interested in Eclipse as it is too big for me, and a little OTT

for basic text editing.
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Re: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Damien McKenna
OK, regarding Homesite, I've used it before but always found it a bit 
bloated for what it gave you, and was a dead-end product.

HTML-Kit is very close to what I'm looking for, but its workspace 
system seems confused (why can't you set a local directory to map to an 
FTP site?).Very close though.There isn't much in the way of 
up-to-date CFMX plugins/addons, but that could be remedied.

AceHTML, 1st Page, etc, the vast majority of web editors are 
trimmed-down versions of Dreamweaver, i.e. focused on the WYSIWYG 
aspects, which I don't care about.Also, many of them don't support 
CFML.

Ones I'm going to investigate:

- Sausage Software's HotDog.

- Homesite 5.5, might aswell give it another spin seeing as I already 
have it.

Personally I wish that the EditPlus author would add some sort of 
scripting support to his editor, then I'd probably be able to do lots 
of fun stuff with it... all for $30.
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Re: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Bryan Stevenson
OMG...Hot Dog From Sausage Software still exists???

I used that back in 95 when I started on the webback before Australia even hada T1 line in/out of it (software is from Aussie land)

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RE: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Ian Skinner
At least some of the features you want, and the smallest foot print I think you will find.I believe the editor still fits on a single 3 ½ floppy disk!

 
Crimson Editor
http://www.crimsoneditor.com/

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Re: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Mike Kear
I can't see where Dreamweaver wont do everything you want.Just
change to code view and you're home and hosed.

If that's still not what you want, try UltraEdit.It has most of what
you want. It's lightweight, fast,can handle files sizes as big as
your hard drive, has syntax highlighting, an FTP inbuilt,can search
and replace over entire directories or disks ifyou want.It's
notepad on steroids, or Dreamweaver without the extras.If you want
an all-purpose editor for a machine without a lot of RAM, UltraEdit's
the way to go.(http://www.ultraedit.com)

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
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From: Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:07:33 -0400
Subject: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm looking for a HTML/CFML editor for Windows with the following 
requirements:
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RE: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Dave Watts
 I can't see where Dreamweaver wont do everything you want.
 Just change to code view and you're home and hosed.

Damian said his new laptop will only have 64 MB of RAM! In that case, I
suspect he'd see sub-optimal performance with Dreamweaver.

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RE: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

2004-09-07 Thread Jim Davis
Well then, in that case he can use the money he would have spent on
DreamWeaver and upgrade his memory so that he can run Dreamweaver!

Wait. I see a conundrum. ;^)

(As an aside: my vote is Homesite+ or CF Studio - still the best although
I've forced myself to switch to Dreamweaver just to see how I'd like it.If
the damn thing could just show me a normal file listing I'd be almost
perfectly with it.)

Jim Davis

From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Suggestion for Windows HTML editor

 I can't see where Dreamweaver wont do everything you want.
 Just change to code view and you're home and hosed.

Damian said his new laptop will only have 64 MB of RAM! In that case, I
suspect he'd see sub-optimal performance with Dreamweaver.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444
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