RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-04 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Is this a .NET service?

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-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


The initial webservice error did not go away after the msvcr71.dll was
updated. It was unrelated. For the record, the errors starting happening on
our webservice after the 8.01 upgrade and involved the complex return types.
The error was:

coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCInvocationException: [java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
: components.bridge.Cp_startup][java.lang.LinkageError : loader (instance of
coldfusion/xml/rpc/SkeletonClassLoader): attempted  duplicate class
definition for name: components/bridge/Cp_startup]

The error would go away after a restart and clearing out all of the
generated class files. But it would then start happening again out of the
blue.

I first tried making sure that the references to the returntypes in the code
were all the same case. This did not resolve it. Finally I renamed all of
the complex return type definitions to begin with an upper case C (from
'cp_startup.cfc' to 'Cp_startup.cfc'). After rebooting and clearing the
cache the problem seems to have been resolved.

Brook


-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] 
Sent: December-02-10 2:27 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


So did the initial webservice error go away as well?
 
 
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
 
-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:35 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


Yeah, I wasn't sure if you need to copy it into the bin directory or just
update the version in system32. Thanks again Mack.

Brook









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RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-04 Thread Bobby Hartsfield

That is exactly what we have pushed to production today to attempt to
resolve this (which is the only place it happens). The WSDL always title
cases the name. I read that displayName would override the case but it
didn't seem to work. Finally we just gave in and changed all references to
it to match the WSDL.

I guess time will tell if it resolved the issue. It gives me hope that it
seems to have resolved your problem.

Thanks 
 
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
 
-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


The initial webservice error did not go away after the msvcr71.dll was
updated. It was unrelated. For the record, the errors starting happening on
our webservice after the 8.01 upgrade and involved the complex return types.
The error was:

coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCInvocationException: [java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
: components.bridge.Cp_startup][java.lang.LinkageError : loader (instance of
coldfusion/xml/rpc/SkeletonClassLoader): attempted  duplicate class
definition for name: components/bridge/Cp_startup]

The error would go away after a restart and clearing out all of the
generated class files. But it would then start happening again out of the
blue.

I first tried making sure that the references to the returntypes in the code
were all the same case. This did not resolve it. Finally I renamed all of
the complex return type definitions to begin with an upper case C (from
'cp_startup.cfc' to 'Cp_startup.cfc'). After rebooting and clearing the
cache the problem seems to have been resolved.

Brook


-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] 
Sent: December-02-10 2:27 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


So did the initial webservice error go away as well?
 
 
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
 
-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:35 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


Yeah, I wasn't sure if you need to copy it into the bin directory or just
update the version in system32. Thanks again Mack.

Brook









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RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-04 Thread Brook Davies

Changing the case of the actual template file names fixed it. Changing the
references in the code did not.

Brook

-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] 
Sent: December-03-10 2:50 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


That is exactly what we have pushed to production today to attempt to
resolve this (which is the only place it happens). The WSDL always title
cases the name. I read that displayName would override the case but it
didn't seem to work. Finally we just gave in and changed all references to
it to match the WSDL.

I guess time will tell if it resolved the issue. It gives me hope that it
seems to have resolved your problem.

Thanks 
 
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
 
-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


The initial webservice error did not go away after the msvcr71.dll was
updated. It was unrelated. For the record, the errors starting happening on
our webservice after the 8.01 upgrade and involved the complex return types.
The error was:

coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCInvocationException: [java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
: components.bridge.Cp_startup][java.lang.LinkageError : loader (instance of
coldfusion/xml/rpc/SkeletonClassLoader): attempted  duplicate class
definition for name: components/bridge/Cp_startup]

The error would go away after a restart and clearing out all of the
generated class files. But it would then start happening again out of the
blue.

I first tried making sure that the references to the returntypes in the code
were all the same case. This did not resolve it. Finally I renamed all of
the complex return type definitions to begin with an upper case C (from
'cp_startup.cfc' to 'Cp_startup.cfc'). After rebooting and clearing the
cache the problem seems to have been resolved.

Brook


-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] 
Sent: December-02-10 2:27 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


So did the initial webservice error go away as well?
 
 
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
 
-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:35 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


Yeah, I wasn't sure if you need to copy it into the bin directory or just
update the version in system32. Thanks again Mack.

Brook











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RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-03 Thread Brook Davies

The initial webservice error did not go away after the msvcr71.dll was
updated. It was unrelated. For the record, the errors starting happening on
our webservice after the 8.01 upgrade and involved the complex return types.
The error was:

coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCInvocationException: [java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
: components.bridge.Cp_startup][java.lang.LinkageError : loader (instance of
coldfusion/xml/rpc/SkeletonClassLoader): attempted  duplicate class
definition for name: components/bridge/Cp_startup]

The error would go away after a restart and clearing out all of the
generated class files. But it would then start happening again out of the
blue.

I first tried making sure that the references to the returntypes in the code
were all the same case. This did not resolve it. Finally I renamed all of
the complex return type definitions to begin with an upper case C (from
'cp_startup.cfc' to 'Cp_startup.cfc'). After rebooting and clearing the
cache the problem seems to have been resolved.

Brook


-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] 
Sent: December-02-10 2:27 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


So did the initial webservice error go away as well?
 
 
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
 
-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:35 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


Yeah, I wasn't sure if you need to copy it into the bin directory or just
update the version in system32. Thanks again Mack.

Brook







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Re: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-02 Thread Mack

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote:

 It's used by the installer - probably to register DLLs and add other stuff
 to the registry.  I've noticed that CF9 will check and install these
 libraries if it doesn't find them. ... but it seems like an awfully low
 level OS problem to be affecting a Java ap eh?

Dave is correct here, jvm.dll has a dependency on msvcr71.dll. In this
case jrun.exe would terminate immediately after msvcr71.dll was loaded
and write an error to the log file about not being able to load
jvm.dll. The fix was to copy a newer version of msvcr71.dll to
runtime\bin so CF used that and leave the older dll in system32.

-- 
Mack

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RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-02 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Mack,

Thanks for that info so copying to the /bin directory does the trick?  I
would think you would have to un register and re register nice to
know.

-Mark

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-Original Message-
From: Mack [mailto:mrsmith.w...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:42 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com
wrote:

 It's used by the installer - probably to register DLLs and add other stuff
 to the registry.  I've noticed that CF9 will check and install these
 libraries if it doesn't find them. ... but it seems like an awfully low
 level OS problem to be affecting a Java ap eh?

Dave is correct here, jvm.dll has a dependency on msvcr71.dll. In this
case jrun.exe would terminate immediately after msvcr71.dll was loaded
and write an error to the log file about not being able to load
jvm.dll. The fix was to copy a newer version of msvcr71.dll to
runtime\bin so CF used that and leave the older dll in system32.

-- 
Mack



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Re: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-02 Thread Mack

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote:

 Mack,

 Thanks for that info so copying to the /bin directory does the trick?  I
 would think you would have to un register and re register nice to
 know.

Mark,

When loading  a DLL Windows searches first in the current directory
and then in the system directories I think.

-- 
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RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-02 Thread Brook Davies

Yeah, I wasn't sure if you need to copy it into the bin directory or just
update the version in system32. Thanks again Mack.

Brook



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RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-02 Thread Bobby Hartsfield

So did the initial webservice error go away as well?
 
 
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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http://acoderslife.com
 
-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:35 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


Yeah, I wasn't sure if you need to copy it into the bin directory or just
update the version in system32. Thanks again Mack.

Brook





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RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-01 Thread Brook Davies

Hallelujah praise the lord. Thanks to Mack who was kind enough to take a
look at my server, we're back in business. Turns out an older version of
msvcr71.dll had somehow found its way onto the system and was causing all of
the problems. 

I don't know why it just started all of sudden, but updating this dll
resolved the problem. Maybe Mack can comment further on the resolution.

Thank you for everyones responses and suggestions!!

Brook

 

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: December-01-10 8:20 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Brook,

Tell me everything about the OS - ignoring any information about JVM's etc.
What exact version of windows are you running? Is it a VPS? Is it on a
domain? What are the environmental variables? Is your login as an admin?
What is the service pack level gotta be something else going on outside
of CF at this point - don't you think?

What was your process for uninstalling CF? For reinstalling?

-Mark

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
Skype: markakruger
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com



-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:39 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Yeah, a full reinstall to a new partition didn't work (G:\coldfusion8). Same
error!

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: December-01-10 7:22 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Brook,

And a full reinstall to a different directory (c:\coldfusion8_new or
something) didn't work?

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
Skype: markakruger
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com



-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:09 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Nope, no compression Mark. The really strange thing is that everything was
running fine, until that class file issue. And after deleting the cf
generated class files and then clicking 'clear template cache' in the
cfadmin, upon rebooting this mysterious error has been all I have been able
to get when trying to run CF...

I have the keyTool GUI program on this server and it has a dump of all the
Java paths and configurations - they match exactly our other web server that
is running CF8 with the exact same config just fine.

Also, I can open a command prompt and go to c:\coldfusion8\runtime\jre\bin\
and run java -version and it reports '1.6.0_04'

Everything is 32bit...

Brook


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: December-01-10 6:53 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Brook,

Any compression on the file system?

-mark


Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
Skype: markakruger
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com



-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:46 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Hi Jochem,

The dll does exist where it is supposed to. Its 3,813,376 KB in size. I've
reinstalled CF8 about 6 or 7 times now, to various locations always with the
exact same error. The dll is virus free.

I've tried starting CF directly and I get the exact same error and that
error alone printed out to the console.

Its bizarre right? 

Brook

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:joch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: December-01-10 4:18 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Brook Davies wrote:
 If I open a command prompt and go to 'c:\coldfusion8\runtime\bin\' and run
 any of executables directly (like sniffer.exe or xmlscript.exe - I get the
 same error Error loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll.

So does the dll exist on the filesystem? What is the md5 and file size
of the dll? Do you have some sort of antivirus with on-access scans
installed on the system?


 Theres nothing in any logs. I don't know what else to do. How can I get a
 more detailed error message or insight into what is happening?

How are you starting CF? Have you tried bypassing the service and just
starting 

RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-01 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Wow... now that's obscure gotta blog that one.

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
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Skype: markakruger
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www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com



-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:40 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


Hallelujah praise the lord. Thanks to Mack who was kind enough to take a
look at my server, we're back in business. Turns out an older version of
msvcr71.dll had somehow found its way onto the system and was causing all of
the problems. 

I don't know why it just started all of sudden, but updating this dll
resolved the problem. Maybe Mack can comment further on the resolution.

Thank you for everyones responses and suggestions!!

Brook

 

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: December-01-10 8:20 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Brook,

Tell me everything about the OS - ignoring any information about JVM's etc.
What exact version of windows are you running? Is it a VPS? Is it on a
domain? What are the environmental variables? Is your login as an admin?
What is the service pack level gotta be something else going on outside
of CF at this point - don't you think?

What was your process for uninstalling CF? For reinstalling?

-Mark

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
Skype: markakruger
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com



-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:39 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Yeah, a full reinstall to a new partition didn't work (G:\coldfusion8). Same
error!

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: December-01-10 7:22 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Brook,

And a full reinstall to a different directory (c:\coldfusion8_new or
something) didn't work?

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
Skype: markakruger
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com



-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:09 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Nope, no compression Mark. The really strange thing is that everything was
running fine, until that class file issue. And after deleting the cf
generated class files and then clicking 'clear template cache' in the
cfadmin, upon rebooting this mysterious error has been all I have been able
to get when trying to run CF...

I have the keyTool GUI program on this server and it has a dump of all the
Java paths and configurations - they match exactly our other web server that
is running CF8 with the exact same config just fine.

Also, I can open a command prompt and go to c:\coldfusion8\runtime\jre\bin\
and run java -version and it reports '1.6.0_04'

Everything is 32bit...

Brook


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: December-01-10 6:53 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Brook,

Any compression on the file system?

-mark


Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
Skype: markakruger
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com



-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:46 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


Hi Jochem,

The dll does exist where it is supposed to. Its 3,813,376 KB in size. I've
reinstalled CF8 about 6 or 7 times now, to various locations always with the
exact same error. The dll is virus free.

I've tried starting CF directly and I get the exact same error and that
error alone printed out to the console.

Its bizarre right? 

Brook

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:joch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: December-01-10 4:18 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Brook Davies wrote:
 If I open a command prompt and go to 'c:\coldfusion8\runtime\bin\' and run
 any of executables directly (like sniffer.exe or xmlscript.exe - I get the
 same error Error loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server

Re: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-01 Thread Russ Michaels

that is certainly odd, that is the microsoft visual c runtime file, how
would it affect ColdFusion which runs on Java ?

Russ

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote:


 Wow... now that's obscure gotta blog that one.

 Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
 (402) 408-3733 ext 105
 Skype: markakruger
 www.cfwebtools.com
 www.coldfusionmuse.com
 www.necfug.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:40 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
 [FIXED]


 Hallelujah praise the lord. Thanks to Mack who was kind enough to take a
 look at my server, we're back in business. Turns out an older version of
 msvcr71.dll had somehow found its way onto the system and was causing all
 of
 the problems.

 I don't know why it just started all of sudden, but updating this dll
 resolved the problem. Maybe Mack can comment further on the resolution.

 Thank you for everyones responses and suggestions!!

 Brook



 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com]
 Sent: December-01-10 8:20 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
 loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


 Brook,

 Tell me everything about the OS - ignoring any information about JVM's etc.
 What exact version of windows are you running? Is it a VPS? Is it on a
 domain? What are the environmental variables? Is your login as an admin?
 What is the service pack level gotta be something else going on outside
 of CF at this point - don't you think?

 What was your process for uninstalling CF? For reinstalling?

 -Mark

 Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
 (402) 408-3733 ext 105
 Skype: markakruger
 www.cfwebtools.com
 www.coldfusionmuse.com
 www.necfug.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:39 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
 loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


 Yeah, a full reinstall to a new partition didn't work (G:\coldfusion8).
 Same
 error!

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com]
 Sent: December-01-10 7:22 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
 loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


 Brook,

 And a full reinstall to a different directory (c:\coldfusion8_new or
 something) didn't work?

 Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
 (402) 408-3733 ext 105
 Skype: markakruger
 www.cfwebtools.com
 www.coldfusionmuse.com
 www.necfug.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:09 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
 loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


 Nope, no compression Mark. The really strange thing is that everything was
 running fine, until that class file issue. And after deleting the cf
 generated class files and then clicking 'clear template cache' in the
 cfadmin, upon rebooting this mysterious error has been all I have been able
 to get when trying to run CF...

 I have the keyTool GUI program on this server and it has a dump of all the
 Java paths and configurations - they match exactly our other web server
 that
 is running CF8 with the exact same config just fine.

 Also, I can open a command prompt and go to c:\coldfusion8\runtime\jre\bin\
 and run java -version and it reports '1.6.0_04'

 Everything is 32bit...

 Brook


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com]
 Sent: December-01-10 6:53 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
 loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


 Brook,

 Any compression on the file system?

 -mark


 Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
 (402) 408-3733 ext 105
 Skype: markakruger
 www.cfwebtools.com
 www.coldfusionmuse.com
 www.necfug.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:46 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
 loading: C:/ColdFusion8/runtime/jre\bin\server\jvm.dll


 Hi Jochem,

 The dll does exist where it is supposed to. Its 3,813,376 KB in size. I've
 reinstalled CF8 about 6 or 7 times now, to various locations always with
 the
 exact same error. The dll is virus free.

 I've tried starting CF directly and I get the exact same error and that
 error alone printed out to the console.

 Its bizarre right?

 Brook

 -Original Message-
 From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:joch...@gmail.com]
 Sent: December-01-10 4:18 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! Error
 loading: C

RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-01 Thread Mark A. Kruger

It's used by the installer - probably to register DLLs and add other stuff
to the registry.  I've noticed that CF9 will check and install these
libraries if it doesn't find them. ... but it seems like an awfully low
level OS problem to be affecting a Java ap eh?

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
Skype: markakruger
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com



-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:27 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START!
[FIXED]


that is certainly odd, that is the microsoft visual c runtime file, how
would it affect ColdFusion which runs on Java ?

Russ



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RE: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-01 Thread Leigh

 ... but it seems like an awfully low
 level OS problem to be affecting a Java ap eh?

I noticed the bug database does mention problems with java 1.6/msvcr71.dll and 
custom loaders
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6509291
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6509739




  

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Re: Webservice error after CF 8.01 update CF FAILS TO START! [FIXED]

2010-12-01 Thread Dave Watts

 that is certainly odd, that is the microsoft visual c runtime file, how
 would it affect ColdFusion which runs on Java ?

The JVM itself is loaded as a native DLL - jvm.dll. Java requires a
native bootstrap to run in the first place.

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