Re: Windows server 2008 or 2012

2014-01-16 Thread Justin Scott

> OS version matters little with PCI compliance.  If anything 2012
> should be more up-to-date and secure (HA, Windows joke contained
> within).

I'd add that this will depend on your QSA.  Some are beginning to
nitpick the SSL cipher sort order which older versions don't allow you
to specify.  Fortunately most of them are not being ultra-strict about
that... yet.


-Justin

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Re: Windows server 2008 or 2012

2014-01-16 Thread Byron Mann

I would do 2012, as the end-of-life for the OS would be further out, and
pushes any kind of required upgrade out to a further date. The learning
curve is not beyond an experience with 2008, IMHO.

OS version matters little with PCI compliance.  If anything 2012 should be
more up-to-date and secure (HA, Windows joke contained within).

Byron Mann
Lead Engineer & Architect
HostMySite.com



Byron Mann
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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Rob Voyle  wrote:

>
> Hi Folks
>
> I am looking at changing VPS providers to maintain and upgrade CF
> I have an option of Windows 2008 or 2012 server.
>
> The reccommendation is 2008 and was wondering what others think.
> I spent a week a year ago migrating from 2003 to 2008 and would rather not
> go
> thru that hassle again in a few years time and so I think starting with
> 2012
> would be a more practical option.
>
> One of my ongoing concerns is PCI compliance.
>
> any reason not to go with 2012 (cost is the same)
>
> Thanks
> Rob
> Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
> Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
> For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
> Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
> to Resolve Grief and Resentment
> http://www.appreciativeway.com/
> 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Windows server 2008 or 2012

2014-01-16 Thread Russ Michaels

btw if the url rewrite problem is an issue for you, then you could perhaps
use Helicon APE instead.


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Justin Scott wrote:

>
> > I am looking at changing VPS providers to maintain and upgrade
> > CF I have an option of Windows 2008 or 2012 server.
>
> Server 2012 is a solid platform though it takes some getting used to
> the GUI interface updates.  It's grown on me since I started dealing
> with it.  Server 2008 still feels new, but it is now pushing six years
> old so I wouldn't deploy anything new on it unless I had to.
>
> If you're using CF10 with Server 2012 there is a known issue (CF Bug
> 3488063; see https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3488063)
> which impacts custom 404 handlers and anything that relies on the URL
> Rewrite module, so if your site relies on those features then do some
> serious testing before deploying live.  We are actively working with
> Adobe engineering (who is working with the Microsoft IIS team) to
> resolve that one as it's holding us up from upgrading a bunch of CF 8
> servers to CF 10 Enterprise, but aside from that everything else
> should be smooth sailing.
>
>
> -Justin Scott
>
> 

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Re: Windows server 2008 or 2012

2014-01-16 Thread Justin Scott

> I am looking at changing VPS providers to maintain and upgrade
> CF I have an option of Windows 2008 or 2012 server.

Server 2012 is a solid platform though it takes some getting used to
the GUI interface updates.  It's grown on me since I started dealing
with it.  Server 2008 still feels new, but it is now pushing six years
old so I wouldn't deploy anything new on it unless I had to.

If you're using CF10 with Server 2012 there is a known issue (CF Bug
3488063; see https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3488063)
which impacts custom 404 handlers and anything that relies on the URL
Rewrite module, so if your site relies on those features then do some
serious testing before deploying live.  We are actively working with
Adobe engineering (who is working with the Microsoft IIS team) to
resolve that one as it's holding us up from upgrading a bunch of CF 8
servers to CF 10 Enterprise, but aside from that everything else
should be smooth sailing.


-Justin Scott

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Re: Windows server 2008 or 2012

2014-01-16 Thread Jordan Michaels

The main thing about 2008 is compatibility. You know more things are 
going to be compatible with it because it's been around longer. If you 
know everything you'll be using is compatible with 2012, then it 
shouldn't be a problem to make the jump to it.

Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

On 01/16/2014 11:27 AM, Rob Voyle wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
>
> I am looking at changing VPS providers to maintain and upgrade CF
> I have an option of Windows 2008 or 2012 server.
>
> The reccommendation is 2008 and was wondering what others think.
> I spent a week a year ago migrating from 2003 to 2008 and would rather not go
> thru that hassle again in a few years time and so I think starting with 2012
> would be a more practical option.
>
> One of my ongoing concerns is PCI compliance.
>
> any reason not to go with 2012 (cost is the same)
>
> Thanks
> Rob
> Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
> Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
> For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
> Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
>  to Resolve Grief and Resentment
> http://www.appreciativeway.com/
> 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Windows server 2008 or 2012

2014-01-16 Thread Jon Clausen

Agree with Russ.  Having used both, I prefer 2012 now - once I got used to the 
new interface.  

-J

On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

> 
> if your starting from scratch then you may as well start with 2012, there
> is no reason not to except the elarning curve if your not used to it, but
> you will have to do it at some point anyway, so may as well be now.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Rob Voyle  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Folks
>> 
>> I am looking at changing VPS providers to maintain and upgrade CF
>> I have an option of Windows 2008 or 2012 server.
>> 
>> The reccommendation is 2008 and was wondering what others think.
>> I spent a week a year ago migrating from 2003 to 2008 and would rather not
>> go
>> thru that hassle again in a few years time and so I think starting with
>> 2012
>> would be a more practical option.
>> 
>> One of my ongoing concerns is PCI compliance.
>> 
>> any reason not to go with 2012 (cost is the same)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Rob
>> Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
>> Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
>> For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
>> Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
>>to Resolve Grief and Resentment
>> http://www.appreciativeway.com/
>> 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Windows server 2008 or 2012

2014-01-16 Thread Russ Michaels

if your starting from scratch then you may as well start with 2012, there
is no reason not to except the elarning curve if your not used to it, but
you will have to do it at some point anyway, so may as well be now.


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Rob Voyle  wrote:

>
> Hi Folks
>
> I am looking at changing VPS providers to maintain and upgrade CF
> I have an option of Windows 2008 or 2012 server.
>
> The reccommendation is 2008 and was wondering what others think.
> I spent a week a year ago migrating from 2003 to 2008 and would rather not
> go
> thru that hassle again in a few years time and so I think starting with
> 2012
> would be a more practical option.
>
> One of my ongoing concerns is PCI compliance.
>
> any reason not to go with 2012 (cost is the same)
>
> Thanks
> Rob
> Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
> Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
> For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
> Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
> to Resolve Grief and Resentment
> http://www.appreciativeway.com/
> 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382
>
>
>
>
> 

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Windows server 2008 or 2012

2014-01-16 Thread Rob Voyle

Hi Folks

I am looking at changing VPS providers to maintain and upgrade CF 
I have an option of Windows 2008 or 2012 server.

The reccommendation is 2008 and was wondering what others think. 
I spent a week a year ago migrating from 2003 to 2008 and would rather not go 
thru that hassle again in a few years time and so I think starting with 2012 
would be a more practical option. 

One of my ongoing concerns is PCI compliance.

any reason not to go with 2012 (cost is the same)

Thanks
Rob
Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D.
Director, Clergy Leadership Institute
For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry
Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies
to Resolve Grief and Resentment
http://www.appreciativeway.com/
503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382
 
 


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