RE: cfschedule & ghost threads

2005-07-26 Thread Micha Schopman
Dave,

Not tried that, but that would also result in scheduled tags being
available forever. Even though the date is set in history, the thread
would be still registered within the system. We have settled with the
ghost threads for the time being because we already made the decision
for a different platform.

Micha Schopman
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Phipps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: dinsdag 26 juli 2005 12:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfschedule & ghost threads

Have you tried updating the schedule so that the start and end dates are
in the past?  I have a similar system for mass mailing that I am just
putting together and I seem to have the same scheduler problem.

I have tried using cfschedule to update the task but I am not sure that
even this is making a difference.  I will look at the cron-xml file when
I get home tonight whilst my code is running to see if the change
occurs.

Cheers,

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Re: cfschedule & ghost threads

2005-07-26 Thread Dave Phipps
Have you tried updating the schedule so that the start and end dates are
in the past?  I have a similar system for mass mailing that I am just
putting together and I seem to have the same scheduler problem.

I have tried using cfschedule to update the task but I am not sure that
even this is making a difference.  I will look at the cron-xml file when
I get home tonight whilst my code is running to see if the change occurs.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: cfschedule & ghost threads

2005-07-26 Thread Dave Phipps
Have you tried updating the schedule so that the start and end dates are
in the past?  I have a similar system for mass mailing that I am just
putting together and I seem to have the same scheduler problem.

I have tried using cfschedule to update the task but I am not sure that
even this is making a difference.  I will look at the cron-xml file when
I get home tonight whilst my code is running to see if the change occurs.

Cheers,

Dave

Micha Schopman wrote:
> Paul, 
> 
> Thanks for the valuable info, I was about to check it out with
> BlueDragon. Seems a different platform should handle this job.
> 
> Micha Schopman
> Project Manager
> 
> Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
> Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
> KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
> 
> 
> 
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> -
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: dinsdag 26 juli 2005 9:37
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfschedule & ghost threads
> 
> I also got this problem with BlueDragon
> 
> Paul Stewart
> Site Developer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.whichfranchise.com
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" 
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:49 PM
> Subject: cfschedule & ghost threads
> 
> 
> 
>>I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from < CFMX, but I just
>>experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never
>>ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but
> 
> they
> 
>>do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service
>>factory but, it also turned out to be empty.
>>
>>Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of
>>CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the
>>cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when
> 
> their
> 
>>job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule
> 
> is
> 
>>responsible for taking care of short pauses.
>>
>>
>>Micha Schopman
>>Project Manager
>>
>>Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
>>Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
>>KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> meer
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RE: cfschedule & ghost threads

2005-07-26 Thread Micha Schopman
Paul, 

Thanks for the valuable info, I was about to check it out with
BlueDragon. Seems a different platform should handle this job.

Micha Schopman
Project Manager

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-Original Message-
From: Paul Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: dinsdag 26 juli 2005 9:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfschedule & ghost threads

I also got this problem with BlueDragon

Paul Stewart
Site Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.whichfranchise.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: cfschedule & ghost threads


>I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from < CFMX, but I just
> experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never
> ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but
they
> do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service
> factory but, it also turned out to be empty.
>
> Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of
> CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the
> cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when
their
> job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule
is
> responsible for taking care of short pauses.
>
>
> Micha Schopman
> Project Manager
>
> Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
> Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
> KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
>
>

>

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Re: cfschedule & ghost threads

2005-07-26 Thread Paul Stewart
I also got this problem with BlueDragon

Paul Stewart
Site Developer
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- Original Message - 
From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: cfschedule & ghost threads


>I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from < CFMX, but I just
> experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never
> ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but they
> do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service
> factory but, it also turned out to be empty.
>
> Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of
> CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the
> cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when their
> job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule is
> responsible for taking care of short pauses.
>
>
> Micha Schopman
> Project Manager
>
> Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
> Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
> KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
>
> 
> 
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> de interactie met uw doelgroep.
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> informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl
> 
> 
> -
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>
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RE: cfschedule & ghost threads

2005-07-25 Thread Dave.Phillips
How did this get missed in MX 7 ?  Unbelievable.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:06 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfschedule & ghost threads


Dave, 

It is a bug ... I am really astonished that such a mayor bug from 2003
still isn't fixed. Practically, the cfschedule tag is useless.

Bug: 48529
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18325

The jobs all have different names, they run with a interval of 60
seconds, and are doing nothing more than cfmail start->endrow, until all
rows are handled. Then the job is removed, well .. it should have been
removed. 

Still astonished ... 

Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: maandag 25 juli 2005 16:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfschedule & ghost threads

Micha,

I experienced the same thing and only a CF service restart cleared them.
It's gotta be a bug, but I haven't ever researched it to see if there is
a fix for it.

Are the jobs you're adding/deleting using the same task name?  Have you
experienced trying to use either the same task name everytime, or a
different one everytime?  I never tested that, just created my own
scheduling system (it was also for mailings).  I have a table where the
mailing is added to the table, and I'm only using the CF scheduler to
run the same program every 5 minutes and look for any jobs that need to
be sent.  This way I just have a static job in the CF scheduler and
don't have to worry about the bug.  Alot of work to get around a bug
but

"you gotta do what you gotta do"  (I'm sure someone important said that
one day)

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfschedule & ghost threads


I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from < CFMX, but I just
experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never
ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but they
do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service
factory but, it also turned out to be empty.

Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of
CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the
cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when their
job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule is
responsible for taking care of short pauses.


Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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RE: cfschedule & ghost threads

2005-07-25 Thread Micha Schopman
Dave, 

It is a bug ... I am really astonished that such a mayor bug from 2003
still isn't fixed. Practically, the cfschedule tag is useless.

Bug: 48529
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18325

The jobs all have different names, they run with a interval of 60
seconds, and are doing nothing more than cfmail start->endrow, until all
rows are handled. Then the job is removed, well .. it should have been
removed. 

Still astonished ... 

Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: maandag 25 juli 2005 16:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfschedule & ghost threads

Micha,

I experienced the same thing and only a CF service restart cleared them.
It's gotta be a bug, but I haven't ever researched it to see if there is
a fix for it.

Are the jobs you're adding/deleting using the same task name?  Have you
experienced trying to use either the same task name everytime, or a
different one everytime?  I never tested that, just created my own
scheduling system (it was also for mailings).  I have a table where the
mailing is added to the table, and I'm only using the CF scheduler to
run the same program every 5 minutes and look for any jobs that need to
be sent.  This way I just have a static job in the CF scheduler and
don't have to worry about the bug.  Alot of work to get around a bug
but

"you gotta do what you gotta do"  (I'm sure someone important said that
one day)

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfschedule & ghost threads


I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from < CFMX, but I just
experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never
ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but they
do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service
factory but, it also turned out to be empty.

Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of
CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the
cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when their
job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule is
responsible for taking care of short pauses.


Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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RE: cfschedule & ghost threads

2005-07-25 Thread Dave.Phillips
Micha,

I experienced the same thing and only a CF service restart cleared them.  It's 
gotta be a bug, but I haven't ever researched it to see if there is a fix for 
it.

Are the jobs you're adding/deleting using the same task name?  Have you 
experienced trying to use either the same task name everytime, or a different 
one everytime?  I never tested that, just created my own scheduling system (it 
was also for mailings).  I have a table where the mailing is added to the 
table, and I'm only using the CF scheduler to run the same program every 5 
minutes and look for any jobs that need to be sent.  This way I just have a 
static job in the CF scheduler and don't have to worry about the bug.  Alot of 
work to get around a bug but

"you gotta do what you gotta do"  (I'm sure someone important said that one day)

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfschedule & ghost threads


I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from < CFMX, but I just
experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never
ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but they
do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service
factory but, it also turned out to be empty.

Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of
CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the
cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when their
job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule is
responsible for taking care of short pauses.


Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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RE: cfschedule & ghost threads

2005-07-25 Thread Micha Schopman
As a follow up, I found a technote about this issue.

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18361

Luckily it is only there since 2003 ... 

Micha Schopman
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-Original Message-
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: maandag 25 juli 2005 15:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfschedule & ghost threads

I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from < CFMX, but I just
experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never
ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but they
do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service
factory but, it also turned out to be empty.

Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of
CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the
cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when their
job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule is
responsible for taking care of short pauses.


Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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cfschedule & ghost threads

2005-07-25 Thread Micha Schopman
I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from < CFMX, but I just
experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never
ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but they
do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service
factory but, it also turned out to be empty.

Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of
CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the
cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when their
job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule is
responsible for taking care of short pauses.


Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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