outlook 2007 and cfmail
I am having the hardest time with outlook 2007 and html/css... If I use a smaller font (say 6px-8px) for a sup command it sits the text right next to it, it won't even superscript it. So... I increase the size to accommodate that then other mail clients have a HUGE superscripted services mark (sm) Anyone else have these problems? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343556 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: outlook 2007 and cfmail
Outlook's HTML rendering engine is garbage. Copy/paste the HTML into Word, tweak it and copy/paste the source back into your app. It isn't pretty. http://blogs.sitepoint.com/microsoft-breaks-html-email-rendering-in-outlook/ http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338200.aspx On Apr 5, 2011 3:16pm, Ken Hammond khamm...@saleminc.com wrote: I am having the hardest time with outlook 2007 and html/css... If I use a smaller font (say 6px-8px) for a command it sits the text right next to it, it won't even superscript it. So... I increase the size to accommodate that then other mail clients have a HUGE superscripted services mark (sm) Anyone else have these problems? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343557 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: outlook 2007 and cfmail
Outlook 2007 actually does a very good job of rendering HTML emails as it uses IE to do the job. Outlook 2010 is the problem as they switched to using the word html rendering engine. However you need to remember that HTML emails are not rendered the same in all email clients, so you need to keep it as simple as possible and only do things that will work in most email clients. There are a number of sites out there which give you a matrix of which tags/CSS rules work and which don't in which email client, if you google the topic you will get plenty of results. There is also www.campaignmonitor.com which has built in emulators to show you how your email will look in all the major clients. Russ On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:26 PM, jqdur...@gmail.com wrote: Outlook's HTML rendering engine is garbage. Copy/paste the HTML into Word, tweak it and copy/paste the source back into your app. It isn't pretty. http://blogs.sitepoint.com/microsoft-breaks-html-email-rendering-in-outlook/ http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338200.aspx On Apr 5, 2011 3:16pm, Ken Hammond khamm...@saleminc.com wrote: I am having the hardest time with outlook 2007 and html/css... If I use a smaller font (say 6px-8px) for a command it sits the text right next to it, it won't even superscript it. So... I increase the size to accommodate that then other mail clients have a HUGE superscripted services mark (sm) Anyone else have these problems? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343558 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: outlook 2007 and cfmail
Hi Ken How are you composing the email and how many email clients are you concerned about. Outlook 2007 is a real bear. I have just spent days tweaking an email newsletter to work on all the mail clients I can find. Its a hodge podge, a little xhtml a little inline css. Don't put the css in the header as it will be stripped out by many web based mail clients. and some clients don't do style tags in the body as amny recommend/ It is better to use inline styles. Makes it messy but you can get something reliable. If you go to http://www.appreciativeway.com/news/ai-way-news.cfm View the source (copy it if you want) it will work on most email clients I have found. Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 5 Apr 2011 at 15:16, Ken Hammond wrote: I am having the hardest time with outlook 2007 and html/css... If I use a smaller font (say 6px-8px) for a sup command it sits the text right next to it, it won't even superscript it. So... I increase the size to accommodate that then other mail clients have a HUGE superscripted services mark (sm) Anyone else have these problems? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag= houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:34 3556 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343561 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: outlook 2007 and cfmail
I do all in-line CSS. I use emailonacid.com to check against just about every mail client out there :-) Outlook 2007/2010 are the only clients that have problems, absolutely hate them. Ken Sent from Apple MobileMe On Apr 5, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Ken How are you composing the email and how many email clients are you concerned about. Outlook 2007 is a real bear. I have just spent days tweaking an email newsletter to work on all the mail clients I can find. Its a hodge podge, a little xhtml a little inline css. Don't put the css in the header as it will be stripped out by many web based mail clients. and some clients don't do style tags in the body as amny recommend/ It is better to use inline styles. Makes it messy but you can get something reliable. If you go to http://www.appreciativeway.com/news/ai-way-news.cfm View the source (copy it if you want) it will work on most email clients I have found. Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 5 Apr 2011 at 15:16, Ken Hammond wrote: I am having the hardest time with outlook 2007 and html/css... If I use a smaller font (say 6px-8px) for a sup command it sits the text right next to it, it won't even superscript it. So... I increase the size to accommodate that then other mail clients have a HUGE superscripted services mark (sm) Anyone else have these problems? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag= houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:34 3556 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343567 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: outlook 2007 and cfmail
Actually Russ, 2007 and 2010 use word. They stopped using IE with Outlook 2003... As taken from the article below: Microsoft Office Outlook 2007 uses the HTML parsing and rendering engine from Microsoft Office Word 2007 to display HTML message bodies. The same HTML and cascading style sheets (CSS) support available in Word 2007 is available in Outlook 2007. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338201(v=office.12).aspx Ken Sent from Apple MobileMe On Apr 5, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Outlook 2007 actually does a very good job of rendering HTML emails as it uses IE to do the job. Outlook 2010 is the problem as they switched to using the word html rendering engine. However you need to remember that HTML emails are not rendered the same in all email clients, so you need to keep it as simple as possible and only do things that will work in most email clients. There are a number of sites out there which give you a matrix of which tags/CSS rules work and which don't in which email client, if you google the topic you will get plenty of results. There is also www.campaignmonitor.com which has built in emulators to show you how your email will look in all the major clients. Russ On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:26 PM, jqdur...@gmail.com wrote: Outlook's HTML rendering engine is garbage. Copy/paste the HTML into Word, tweak it and copy/paste the source back into your app. It isn't pretty. http://blogs.sitepoint.com/microsoft-breaks-html-email-rendering-in-outlook/ http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338200.aspx On Apr 5, 2011 3:16pm, Ken Hammond khamm...@saleminc.com wrote: I am having the hardest time with outlook 2007 and html/css... If I use a smaller font (say 6px-8px) for a command it sits the text right next to it, it won't even superscript it. So... I increase the size to accommodate that then other mail clients have a HUGE superscripted services mark (sm) Anyone else have these problems? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343568 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: outlook 2007 and cfmail
Hi Ken I agree with you on your outlook on outlook. I have even questioned the legitimacy of their birth. I haven't tried sup. I know Outlook 2007 won't do ul html tags so I had to create a table to create bullets. I just tried within a paragraph sup2/sup without any additional css and it worked in outlook 2007 I also created a superscript with span style=font-size:10px; vertical-align: top; line-height:12px;2/span it worked in firefox but not outlook 2007. Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 On 5 Apr 2011 at 20:49, Ken Hammond wrote: I do all in-line CSS. I use emailonacid.com to check against just about every mail client out there :-) Outlook 2007/2010 are the only clients that have problems, absolutely hate them. Ken ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343569 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
