[cfaussie] Re: CF9 Centaur Public Beta Announced

2009-07-13 Thread KKC

talk about simultaneous post! let me bump yours ;), wasn't paying
attention to the CF9 one though...

Thanks Geoff!

On Jul 13, 3:59 pm, Geoff Bowers mod...@gmail.com wrote:
 Folks,

 Looks like the Centaur and Bolt public betas are live:
  http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/coldfusion9/
  http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/coldfusionbuilder/

 Enjoy!

 -- geoffhttp://www.daemon.com.au/
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[cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] Going It Alone

2009-07-13 Thread Chris Velevitch

Monday 20th July, 6pm for 6:30 start

A panel discussion on the pros and cons of becoming an independent
contractor/sole trader/business owner. The panel consists of people
who have successfully gone out on their own.


Please RSVP to help with the catering numbers. You need to sign in and
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Note: In order to be eligible for the major software prize, you must
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[cfaussie] Delivering Mobile Content

2009-07-13 Thread Andrew

Hi,

I've currently getting some requests from people too high up to ignore
to start delivering some of our web content for mobile devices.  To be
quite honest I am not sure where to start looking with this.

Does anyone on here have any recommendations?  Most of the stuff would
be news and sporting fixtures / results, and possibly some video
content.  There is one also interactive web application (currently
written in Java  Struts) that would be a candidate for mobile users
as well.

I guess initially the grey area for me is - do you develop HTML
content targeted at mobile users, or do you look at apps for specific
platforms (Android, iPhone, etc...).  The 2nd option just sounds
extremely unappealing unless I'm missing something...

I'd be interested in hearing about anyone's prior experiences with
this?

Andrew.
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[cfaussie] Re: Delivering Mobile Content

2009-07-13 Thread Barry Beattie

clean, simple standards-compliant HTML will take you a long way to
having it rendered correctly on a mobile device.

I wouldn't go so far as to specifically target Android, iPhone simply
because you'd be writing so many (and the skills in getting there...)
unless you had a targeted audience you're chasing (I ain't got neither
of 'em)

depends on the app.



On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Andrewam2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I've currently getting some requests from people too high up to ignore
 to start delivering some of our web content for mobile devices.  To be
 quite honest I am not sure where to start looking with this.

 Does anyone on here have any recommendations?  Most of the stuff would
 be news and sporting fixtures / results, and possibly some video
 content.  There is one also interactive web application (currently
 written in Java  Struts) that would be a candidate for mobile users
 as well.

 I guess initially the grey area for me is - do you develop HTML
 content targeted at mobile users, or do you look at apps for specific
 platforms (Android, iPhone, etc...).  The 2nd option just sounds
 extremely unappealing unless I'm missing something...

 I'd be interested in hearing about anyone's prior experiences with
 this?

 Andrew.
 


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[cfaussie] Re: Delivering Mobile Content

2009-07-13 Thread Mark Mandel
I guess it depends on whether they want:

a) A mobile application
b) A website that is accessible from a mobile device.

Those are two different things, with different requirements.

Mark

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Barry Beattie barry.beat...@gmail.comwrote:


 clean, simple standards-compliant HTML will take you a long way to
 having it rendered correctly on a mobile device.

 I wouldn't go so far as to specifically target Android, iPhone simply
 because you'd be writing so many (and the skills in getting there...)
 unless you had a targeted audience you're chasing (I ain't got neither
 of 'em)

 depends on the app.



 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Andrewam2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I've currently getting some requests from people too high up to ignore
  to start delivering some of our web content for mobile devices.  To be
  quite honest I am not sure where to start looking with this.
 
  Does anyone on here have any recommendations?  Most of the stuff would
  be news and sporting fixtures / results, and possibly some video
  content.  There is one also interactive web application (currently
  written in Java  Struts) that would be a candidate for mobile users
  as well.
 
  I guess initially the grey area for me is - do you develop HTML
  content targeted at mobile users, or do you look at apps for specific
  platforms (Android, iPhone, etc...).  The 2nd option just sounds
  extremely unappealing unless I'm missing something...
 
  I'd be interested in hearing about anyone's prior experiences with
  this?
 
  Andrew.
  
 

 



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[cfaussie] Re: Delivering Mobile Content

2009-07-13 Thread Andrew

Thanks Guys.

Mark I think you have hit the nail on the head.  I am not sure they
even know there is a difference, which is why I am also extremely
vague about what I need to deliver.

I guess I need to put together a report outlining what each entails
and put it back to the board.

On Jul 14, 3:13 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess it depends on whether they want:

 a) A mobile application
 b) A website that is accessible from a mobile device.

 Those are two different things, with different requirements.

 Mark

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Barry Beattie barry.beat...@gmail.comwrote:





  clean, simple standards-compliant HTML will take you a long way to
  having it rendered correctly on a mobile device.

  I wouldn't go so far as to specifically target Android, iPhone simply
  because you'd be writing so many (and the skills in getting there...)
  unless you had a targeted audience you're chasing (I ain't got neither
  of 'em)

  depends on the app.

  On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Andrewam2...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi,

   I've currently getting some requests from people too high up to ignore
   to start delivering some of our web content for mobile devices.  To be
   quite honest I am not sure where to start looking with this.

   Does anyone on here have any recommendations?  Most of the stuff would
   be news and sporting fixtures / results, and possibly some video
   content.  There is one also interactive web application (currently
   written in Java  Struts) that would be a candidate for mobile users
   as well.

   I guess initially the grey area for me is - do you develop HTML
   content targeted at mobile users, or do you look at apps for specific
   platforms (Android, iPhone, etc...).  The 2nd option just sounds
   extremely unappealing unless I'm missing something...

   I'd be interested in hearing about anyone's prior experiences with
   this?

   Andrew.

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[cfaussie] Re: Delivering Mobile Content

2009-07-13 Thread Barry Beattie

typical.

Pointy-haired types half-hearing of some new technology and saying
I'll have a bit of that without working out what they really want to
do.

perhaps another case of a solution looking for a problem to solve?



On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Andrewam2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Guys.

 Mark I think you have hit the nail on the head.  I am not sure they
 even know there is a difference, which is why I am also extremely
 vague about what I need to deliver.

 I guess I need to put together a report outlining what each entails
 and put it back to the board.

 On Jul 14, 3:13 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess it depends on whether they want:

 a) A mobile application
 b) A website that is accessible from a mobile device.

 Those are two different things, with different requirements.

 Mark

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Barry Beattie 
 barry.beat...@gmail.comwrote:





  clean, simple standards-compliant HTML will take you a long way to
  having it rendered correctly on a mobile device.

  I wouldn't go so far as to specifically target Android, iPhone simply
  because you'd be writing so many (and the skills in getting there...)
  unless you had a targeted audience you're chasing (I ain't got neither
  of 'em)

  depends on the app.

  On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Andrewam2...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi,

   I've currently getting some requests from people too high up to ignore
   to start delivering some of our web content for mobile devices.  To be
   quite honest I am not sure where to start looking with this.

   Does anyone on here have any recommendations?  Most of the stuff would
   be news and sporting fixtures / results, and possibly some video
   content.  There is one also interactive web application (currently
   written in Java  Struts) that would be a candidate for mobile users
   as well.

   I guess initially the grey area for me is - do you develop HTML
   content targeted at mobile users, or do you look at apps for specific
   platforms (Android, iPhone, etc...).  The 2nd option just sounds
   extremely unappealing unless I'm missing something...

   I'd be interested in hearing about anyone's prior experiences with
   this?

   Andrew.

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[cfaussie] Re: Delivering Mobile Content

2009-07-13 Thread Peter

In my view, a clear case of needing to 'manage upward'.

I suggest you convene a meeting with those who're agitating for this
and manage them through a process of getting them to be clear about
the high-level objectives, and then give them a sense of the
opportunities and constraints and the need for research and careful
decision-making on the tech front.

If you don't feel you have the pull to get them into a room, get
someone upstream from you be champion and do the convening and
engagement.  Try to get it the status of a real project, get a serious
sponsor, and get them to take responsibility for the project's impact.

Yes, this can all fail, but if they get bound up and won't make the
appropriate business decisions, then the heat's off you.  On the other
hand, it might get legs and become something real and manageable,
instead of being a liability laid at your feet.

Peter

On Jul 14, 2:45 pm, Andrew am2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I've currently getting some requests from people too high up to ignore
 to start delivering some of our web content for mobile devices.  To be
 quite honest I am not sure where to start looking with this.

 Does anyone on here have any recommendations?  Most of the stuff would
 be news and sporting fixtures / results, and possibly some video
 content.  There is one also interactive web application (currently
 written in Java  Struts) that would be a candidate for mobile users
 as well.

 I guess initially the grey area for me is - do you develop HTML
 content targeted at mobile users, or do you look at apps for specific
 platforms (Android, iPhone, etc...).  The 2nd option just sounds
 extremely unappealing unless I'm missing something...

 I'd be interested in hearing about anyone's prior experiences with
 this?

 Andrew.
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