[cfaussie] Facebook integration using ColdFusion

2009-07-16 Thread Hitesh

I have to implement the solution within our system which will
communicate with Facebook via HTTP POST (remotely). Our clients are
recruitment consultants  they wanted to advertise their jobs on
Facebook in their account.

For example..this is the goal.
- Our clients will create the job ad details like job title,
location, job category, job description
etc...within our system.

- Our system will post job details into client's Facebook account via
HTTP POST.

- Later, our system should be also able to modify / archive the same
job via HTTP POST.

How is this possible? I looked into Facebook API documentation but NOT
sure what to follow in order to implement this solution? Can somebody
guide me?

Looking forward to seeing your reply.

Kind regards.
- Hitesh.
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[cfaussie] Re: Facebook integration using ColdFusion

2009-07-16 Thread Dale Fraser

Look at the facebook API on riaforge

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I have to implement the solution within our system which will
communicate with Facebook via HTTP POST (remotely). Our clients are
recruitment consultants  they wanted to advertise their jobs on
Facebook in their account.

For example..this is the goal.
- Our clients will create the job ad details like job title,
location, job category, job description
etc...within our system.

- Our system will post job details into client's Facebook account via
HTTP POST.

- Later, our system should be also able to modify / archive the same
job via HTTP POST.

How is this possible? I looked into Facebook API documentation but NOT
sure what to follow in order to implement this solution? Can somebody
guide me?

Looking forward to seeing your reply.

Kind regards.
- Hitesh.


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[cfaussie] Re: Facebook integration using ColdFusion

2009-07-16 Thread CyberAngel

It should also be noted that they can't do it to their account.

Their best option would be to create an application on Facebook, and then
use the API as Dale suggested. Then people can join the application or page
and leave at their own free will.

Spamming to an account with jobs is not what a facebook account is mean to
be about.



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[cfaussie] Re: Facebook integration using ColdFusion

2009-07-16 Thread Hitesh

Can you please tell me little bit more why there is a need to create
Their best option would be to create an application on Facebook,???

Thanks.

On Jul 16, 9:39 pm, CyberAngel andre...@gmail.com wrote:
 It should also be noted that they can't do it to their account.

 Their best option would be to create an application on Facebook, and then
 use the API as Dale suggested. Then people can join the application or page
 and leave at their own free will.

 Spamming to an account with jobs is not what a facebook account is mean to
 be about.

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[cfaussie] Re: Facebook integration using ColdFusion

2009-07-16 Thread CyberAngel

Because facebook is about friends connecting...

Applications and pages is about companies and organisations promoting and
advertising. I suggest you log into facebook join the developers page and
read the information available to you.

Seek did exactly what your clients / customers want to do, the best option
is a page / application where you get the same functionality as an account.
The only difference is that the page / application is allowed to do things
that the TOS doesn't cover for normal accounts.

If you haven't read the developers blog, application pages or forums then
you're doing yourself a disfavour by not doing so.

Application is the best way to go, the reason being is that when you create
an Application you then can set that to retrieve from your own servers. This
allows you to connect, produce, direct and if you so desire spam (wouldn't
recommend it) to anyone you wish that connects to your application from your
own servers and database. Not to mention connect that application to any
databse you so desire, including your clients and/or customers.

Again your best bet first is to read the TOS, then read the developers
section, then browse the forums. And as Dale suggested d/load the API that
will allow you to do this.

Been there and written many facebook applications, but at the end of the day
the information you need is already on facebook.




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Can you please tell me little bit more why there is a need to create
Their best option would be to create an application on Facebook,???

Thanks.



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[cfaussie] OT : Friday discussion To browse or not to browse

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Onnis
Today I thought I would log into my twitter account after 7 months mind you
and have a look around again thinking maybe I can put it to some use (jury
is still out on that one), but while I was in there I noticed in the right
hand column under Trending topics I noticed a topic names IE6 Must die.
Being human and curious by nature I thought I would check it out and noticed
some interesting comments like IE6 must die for the web to move on and I
spent days trying to get sites looking vaguely similar in IE6 to Firefox. IE
IS EVIL! .
 
I guess my question is, should IE6 die? Is IE really evil? I hear a lot of
talk about how Microsoft browsers don't adhere to W3C standards and
developing for IE is such a pain and FireFox is a much better browser.  How
much time do you really spend checking cross browser compatibility?  Is it
really worth it?  In my experience, I would say not a great deal.  If you
stick to the standards I have found that you end up just tweaking the CSS a
little and most of if is because of positioning issues.  That said, this
sort of issue is not only related to the IE browsers or IE6 specifically.
MAC in general are a pain because of the way they render fonts and have
there own style of classic fonts like Arial and so on. Issues like that
cause problems with padding and spacing, especially if you are looking for a
pixel perfect layout.  At least with IE browsers you can use the IF/ELSE
technique to include specific CSS files to target specific versions of the
browser.
 
There are CSS hacks for everything now, and honestly I don't think you need
them as long as you stick to simple standards code.  A lot can be achieved
if you do this without having to sacrifice functionality or compatibility
for the plethora of browsers available.
 
In the end, every browser, new and old has their quirks and to point the
finger and at one browser is unfair if not unjust.
 
Steve

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[cfaussie] Re: OT : Friday discussion To browse or not to browse

2009-07-16 Thread Andrew Myers
Interesting discussion.

Personally, the main issue I have with IE6 these days is I have a lot of
users on my site who want to print everything out and I'm often getting
people complaining about the right margin getting cut off.  You can always
guarantee these are IE6 users.  I create a separate print stylesheet that
only has percentage based widths in it, rather than pixel based it fixes the
issues in IE6.  But IMHO it's a nuisance having to do that when the problem
has already been addressed in more modern browsers.

Not sure that I agree with your comment that it's unfair to target this
browser though.  The fact is that it's old technology - there have been two
newer IE releases with address a lot of its issues, and there are many other
alternatives.

The real problem as far as I am concerned is that people using IE6 are often
using operating systems which Microsoft will no longer support, but still
expect web sites to support them.

The good news is that it is slowly dying of old age as far as I can
tell...we're down to about 23% of our users on it.  Hopefully just like $1
and $2 notes and copper coins they'll all be out of circulation soon. :-)))

Andrew.

2009/7/17 Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au

  Today I thought I would log into my twitter account after 7 months mind
 you and have a look around again thinking maybe I can put it to some use
 (jury is still out on that one), but while I was in there I noticed in the
 right hand column under Trending topics I noticed a topic names *IE6
 Must die*.  Being human and curious by nature I thought I would check it
 out and noticed some interesting comments like IE6 must die for the web to
 move on and I spent days trying to get sites looking vaguely similar in
 IE6 to Firefox. IE IS EVIL! .

 I guess my question is, should IE6 die? Is IE really evil? I hear a lot of
 talk about how Microsoft browsers don't adhere to W3C standards and
 developing for IE is such a pain and FireFox is a much better browser.  How
 much time do you really spend checking cross browser compatibility?  Is it
 really worth it?  In my experience, I would say not a great deal.  If you
 stick to the standards I have found that you end up just tweaking the CSS a
 little and most of if is because of positioning issues.  That said, this
 sort of issue is not only related to the IE browsers or IE6 specifically.
 MAC in general are a pain because of the way they render fonts and have
 there own style of classic fonts like Arial and so on. Issues like that
 cause problems with padding and spacing, especially if you are looking for a
 pixel perfect layout.  At least with IE browsers you can use the IF/ELSE
 technique to include specific CSS files to target specific versions of the
 browser.

 There are CSS hacks for everything now, and honestly I don't think you need
 them as long as you stick to simple standards code.  A lot can be achieved
 if you do this without having to sacrifice functionality or compatibility
 for the plethora of browsers available.

 In the end, every browser, new and old has their quirks and to point the
 finger and at one browser is unfair if not unjust.

 Steve

 


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[cfaussie] Re: OT : Friday discussion To browse or not to browse

2009-07-16 Thread Barry Beattie

so what you guys are saying is that you're hopeful that Microsoft is
successful in promoting IE8 ... yes?

  The real problem as far as I am concerned is that people using IE6 are often
 using operating systems which Microsoft will no longer support, but still
 expect web sites to support them.

you are NOT going to have any joy converting those people from
Internet Explorer to Chrome or Firefox. Give up now before the
heartache.






On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andrew Myersam2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting discussion.

 Personally, the main issue I have with IE6 these days is I have a lot of
 users on my site who want to print everything out and I'm often getting
 people complaining about the right margin getting cut off.  You can always
 guarantee these are IE6 users.  I create a separate print stylesheet that
 only has percentage based widths in it, rather than pixel based it fixes the
 issues in IE6.  But IMHO it's a nuisance having to do that when the problem
 has already been addressed in more modern browsers.

 Not sure that I agree with your comment that it's unfair to target this
 browser though.  The fact is that it's old technology - there have been two
 newer IE releases with address a lot of its issues, and there are many other
 alternatives.

 The real problem as far as I am concerned is that people using IE6 are often
 using operating systems which Microsoft will no longer support, but still
 expect web sites to support them.

 The good news is that it is slowly dying of old age as far as I can
 tell...we're down to about 23% of our users on it.  Hopefully just like $1
 and $2 notes and copper coins they'll all be out of circulation soon. :-)))

 Andrew.

 2009/7/17 Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au

 Today I thought I would log into my twitter account after 7 months mind
 you and have a look around again thinking maybe I can put it to some use
 (jury is still out on that one), but while I was in there I noticed in the
 right hand column under Trending topics I noticed a topic names IE6 Must
 die.  Being human and curious by nature I thought I would check it out and
 noticed some interesting comments like IE6 must die for the web to move on
 and I spent days trying to get sites looking vaguely similar in IE6 to
 Firefox. IE IS EVIL! .

 I guess my question is, should IE6 die? Is IE really evil? I hear a lot of
 talk about how Microsoft browsers don't adhere to W3C standards and
 developing for IE is such a pain and FireFox is a much better browser.  How
 much time do you really spend checking cross browser compatibility?  Is it
 really worth it?  In my experience, I would say not a great deal.  If you
 stick to the standards I have found that you end up just tweaking the CSS a
 little and most of if is because of positioning issues.  That said, this
 sort of issue is not only related to the IE browsers or IE6 specifically.
 MAC in general are a pain because of the way they render fonts and have
 there own style of classic fonts like Arial and so on. Issues like that
 cause problems with padding and spacing, especially if you are looking for a
 pixel perfect layout.  At least with IE browsers you can use the IF/ELSE
 technique to include specific CSS files to target specific versions of the
 browser.

 There are CSS hacks for everything now, and honestly I don't think you
 need them as long as you stick to simple standards code.  A lot can be
 achieved if you do this without having to sacrifice functionality or
 compatibility for the plethora of browsers available.

 In the end, every browser, new and old has their quirks and to point the
 finger and at one browser is unfair if not unjust.

 Steve



 


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[cfaussie] Re: OT : Friday discussion To browse or not to browse

2009-07-16 Thread Barry Beattie

I should also point out that the SOE of the enterprise environment
uses IE6 (thousands of machines)

there is a pilot and review (run by the department next door to me) of
evaluating for deployment ... wait for it ... IE7 ...




On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Barry Beattiebarry.beat...@gmail.com wrote:
 so what you guys are saying is that you're hopeful that Microsoft is
 successful in promoting IE8 ... yes?

   The real problem as far as I am concerned is that people using IE6 are 
 often
 using operating systems which Microsoft will no longer support, but still
 expect web sites to support them.

 you are NOT going to have any joy converting those people from
 Internet Explorer to Chrome or Firefox. Give up now before the
 heartache.






 On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andrew Myersam2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting discussion.

 Personally, the main issue I have with IE6 these days is I have a lot of
 users on my site who want to print everything out and I'm often getting
 people complaining about the right margin getting cut off.  You can always
 guarantee these are IE6 users.  I create a separate print stylesheet that
 only has percentage based widths in it, rather than pixel based it fixes the
 issues in IE6.  But IMHO it's a nuisance having to do that when the problem
 has already been addressed in more modern browsers.

 Not sure that I agree with your comment that it's unfair to target this
 browser though.  The fact is that it's old technology - there have been two
 newer IE releases with address a lot of its issues, and there are many other
 alternatives.

 The real problem as far as I am concerned is that people using IE6 are often
 using operating systems which Microsoft will no longer support, but still
 expect web sites to support them.

 The good news is that it is slowly dying of old age as far as I can
 tell...we're down to about 23% of our users on it.  Hopefully just like $1
 and $2 notes and copper coins they'll all be out of circulation soon. :-)))

 Andrew.

 2009/7/17 Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au

 Today I thought I would log into my twitter account after 7 months mind
 you and have a look around again thinking maybe I can put it to some use
 (jury is still out on that one), but while I was in there I noticed in the
 right hand column under Trending topics I noticed a topic names IE6 Must
 die.  Being human and curious by nature I thought I would check it out and
 noticed some interesting comments like IE6 must die for the web to move on
 and I spent days trying to get sites looking vaguely similar in IE6 to
 Firefox. IE IS EVIL! .

 I guess my question is, should IE6 die? Is IE really evil? I hear a lot of
 talk about how Microsoft browsers don't adhere to W3C standards and
 developing for IE is such a pain and FireFox is a much better browser.  How
 much time do you really spend checking cross browser compatibility?  Is it
 really worth it?  In my experience, I would say not a great deal.  If you
 stick to the standards I have found that you end up just tweaking the CSS a
 little and most of if is because of positioning issues.  That said, this
 sort of issue is not only related to the IE browsers or IE6 specifically.
 MAC in general are a pain because of the way they render fonts and have
 there own style of classic fonts like Arial and so on. Issues like that
 cause problems with padding and spacing, especially if you are looking for a
 pixel perfect layout.  At least with IE browsers you can use the IF/ELSE
 technique to include specific CSS files to target specific versions of the
 browser.

 There are CSS hacks for everything now, and honestly I don't think you
 need them as long as you stick to simple standards code.  A lot can be
 achieved if you do this without having to sacrifice functionality or
 compatibility for the plethora of browsers available.

 In the end, every browser, new and old has their quirks and to point the
 finger and at one browser is unfair if not unjust.

 Steve



 



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[cfaussie] OT : Another Friday discussion : FLEX Vs HTML5

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Onnis
Just watched an interesting, and my first video
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AusOPz8Ww80) on what's happening with HTML5.
From what I have seen in the past, HTML5 has been in the works for a long
time and from what I can see now it will still be a while before it is
officially released even though a few browsers are starting to implement
some of the functionality now.  It was interesting to see they are doing a
lot of work around asynchronous sending and receiving of data, 2D/3D
rendering, offline data storage, native video embedding with the video tag
and and some other cool stuff that will certainly make developing websites a
lot more interesting.  I couldn't help but think though while I was watching
it was that you can do all this stuff in FLEX and FLASH and using Blaze or
LifeCycle so I put to youwhich would you rather? Develop with FLEX or
utilise HTML5 ?  Considering the uptake of the average internet user
actually upgrading their browsers I can't really see a great opportunity to
be able to utilise the additional features and functionality that will come
with HTML5 where as the uptake of the FLASH plug-in already has the
penetration and the flexibility and customisation of FLEX and FLASH is heaps
better than what I could see the HTML5 components being.
 
The way I see it, HTML5 is like a new road, but you are saying to people
they have to buy a new car to drive on it (yes I know the browsers are
free), and to a lot of users, computers are like cars, as long as it goes
and they put fuel in it they don't care and I see the same thing with
browsers. I wouldn't think the average user would consciously upgrade their
browsers which is why we still have XP users running IE6it works and
that's all they are worried about.
 
- What are your thoughts? 
- How sellable is HTML5 to clients?  
- Can you justify saying to your client Hey we can do this really cool
stuff but ANYONE who wants to use it will have to upgrade their browser. 
- Is HTML5 just going to create a new generation of hacks and work arounds
to utilise new features and still retain backwards compatibility?
- Do you think that the time being spent on HTML5 would be better spent
getting everyone to implement the HTML4 standards more consistently?
 
Food for thought
 
Steve

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[cfaussie] Re: OT : Another Friday discussion : FLEX Vs HTML5

2009-07-16 Thread Barry Beattie

 - How sellable is HTML5 to clients?

see my comments on how the Enterprise I work in is still using IE6
across the board and is only now evaluating IE7...
(whereas Flex, or at least FlashPlayer10 is here already).

Meh, my 1.5cents
barry.b





On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Steve Onnisst...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Just watched an interesting, and my first video
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AusOPz8Ww80) on what's happening with
 HTML5.  From what I have seen in the past, HTML5 has been in the works for a
 long time and from what I can see now it will still be a while before it is
 officially released even though a few browsers are starting to implement
 some of the functionality now.  It was interesting to see they are doing a
 lot of work around asynchronous sending and receiving of data, 2D/3D
 rendering, offline data storage, native video embedding with the video
 tag and and some other cool stuff that will certainly make developing
 websites a lot more interesting.  I couldn't help but think though while I
 was watching it was that you can do all this stuff in FLEX and FLASH and
 using Blaze or LifeCycle so I put to youwhich would you rather? Develop
 with FLEX or utilise HTML5 ?  Considering the uptake of the average
 internet user actually upgrading their browsers I can't really see a great
 opportunity to be able to utilise the additional features and functionality
 that will come with HTML5 where as the uptake of the FLASH plug-in already
 has the penetration and the flexibility and customisation of FLEX and FLASH
 is heaps better than what I could see the HTML5 components being.

 The way I see it, HTML5 is like a new road, but you are saying to people
 they have to buy a new car to drive on it (yes I know the browsers are
 free), and to a lot of users, computers are like cars, as long as it goes
 and they put fuel in it they don't care and I see the same thing with
 browsers. I wouldn't think the average user would consciously upgrade their
 browsers which is why we still have XP users running IE6it works and
 that's all they are worried about.

 - What are your thoughts?
 - How sellable is HTML5 to clients?
 - Can you justify saying to your client Hey we can do this really cool
 stuff but ANYONE who wants to use it will have to upgrade their browser.
 - Is HTML5 just going to create a new generation of hacks and work arounds
 to utilise new features and still retain backwards compatibility?
 - Do you think that the time being spent on HTML5 would be better spent
 getting everyone to implement the HTML4 standards more consistently?

 Food for thought

 Steve
 


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[cfaussie] Re: OT : Friday discussion To browse or not to browse

2009-07-16 Thread Chad Renando
I cringe when I hear the word just.  As a production manager, I hear a lot
of just related to IE6 specific tweaks (it will 'just' take me an hour
or two), which cumulate to thousands of dollars per year and significant
schedule pain.  Yes, in a perfect world IE6 would be managed through perfect
CSS and if/then statements.  But our world of plug ins, widgets, third-party
ad-ons and integration with legacy systems is far from perfect.  I require
an element of predictability and profitability that IE6 in particular
threatens.

It takes a significant amount of time to perform a full user test on each
browser, and accommodating the likes of Safari, IE6, IE7, IE8, FF2, FF3, and
Opera can be a 2-day exercise, not too mention if there are issues that
require changes and re-testing.  It would be nice to eliminate just one of
the options we as a society feel are necessary.

If I have an option to kill something, IE6 is top of my list.

Chad
who still lurks on Cold Fusion forums like the bad smell from the lunch your
6th grade kid forgot in their bag over school holidays

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.auwrote:

  Today I thought I would log into my twitter account after 7 months mind
 you and have a look around again thinking maybe I can put it to some use
 (jury is still out on that one), but while I was in there I noticed in the
 right hand column under Trending topics I noticed a topic names *IE6
 Must die*.  Being human and curious by nature I thought I would check it
 out and noticed some interesting comments like IE6 must die for the web to
 move on and I spent days trying to get sites looking vaguely similar in
 IE6 to Firefox. IE IS EVIL! .

 I guess my question is, should IE6 die? Is IE really evil? I hear a lot of
 talk about how Microsoft browsers don't adhere to W3C standards and
 developing for IE is such a pain and FireFox is a much better browser.  How
 much time do you really spend checking cross browser compatibility?  Is it
 really worth it?  In my experience, I would say not a great deal.  If you
 stick to the standards I have found that you end up just tweaking the CSS a
 little and most of if is because of positioning issues.  That said, this
 sort of issue is not only related to the IE browsers or IE6 specifically.
 MAC in general are a pain because of the way they render fonts and have
 there own style of classic fonts like Arial and so on. Issues like that
 cause problems with padding and spacing, especially if you are looking for a
 pixel perfect layout.  At least with IE browsers you can use the IF/ELSE
 technique to include specific CSS files to target specific versions of the
 browser.

 There are CSS hacks for everything now, and honestly I don't think you need
 them as long as you stick to simple standards code.  A lot can be achieved
 if you do this without having to sacrifice functionality or compatibility
 for the plethora of browsers available.

 In the end, every browser, new and old has their quirks and to point the
 finger and at one browser is unfair if not unjust.

 Steve

 


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[cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] Next Monday: Going It Alone

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Velevitch

Monday 20th July, 6pm for 6:30 start

A panel discussion on the pros and cons of becoming an independent
contractor/sole trader/business owner. The panel consists of people
who have successfully gone out on their own.


Please RSVP to help with the catering numbers. You need to sign in and
join the group to RSVP.


Note: In order to be eligible for the major software prize, you must
have attended at least 3 meeting since the June major software
prize draw. Previous major software winners within the last 2 years
are ineligible.


Chris
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Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney
July meeting: Going It Alone
Date: Mon 20th July 6pm for 6:30 start
Details and RSVP on http://groups.adobe.com/posts/1f34697b9b

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