RE: [cfaussie] Paid template sites

2009-11-17 Thread charlie arehart
Besides those offered so far, I have still more options for you in a
category of my CF411 site:

Web Site Design Repositories
http://www.cf411.com/#sitedesign

The site has over 100 categories and over 1000 links to resources and tools
of interest to CFers. Anytime you might ask, does anyone know of xxx, do
check it out. :-)

/charlie


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 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:35 PM
 To: cfaussie
 Subject: [cfaussie] Paid template sites
 
 Hi all
 
 Building a new website for a client. In the past I have used
 www.templatemonster.com for paid website templates. Wondering if
 anyone would like to recommend similar websites for templates?
 
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[cfaussie] Re: Paid template sites

2009-11-17 Thread karan
Thanks Charlie

Your site is a great resource. Might come in handy regarding resouces
for other stuff too...

On Nov 18, 3:29 am, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org
wrote:
 Besides those offered so far, I have still more options for you in a
 category of my CF411 site:

 Web Site Design Repositorieshttp://www.cf411.com/#sitedesign

 The site has over 100 categories and over 1000 links to resources and tools
 of interest to CFers. Anytime you might ask, does anyone know of xxx, do
 check it out. :-)

 /charlie

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  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:35 PM
  To: cfaussie
  Subject: [cfaussie] Paid template sites

  Hi all

  Building a new website for a client. In the past I have used
 www.templatemonster.comfor paid website templates. Wondering if
  anyone would like to recommend similar websites for templates?

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[cfaussie] Re: Paid template sites

2009-11-17 Thread karan
Thanks Charlie

Your site is a great resource. Might come in handy regarding resouces
for other stuff too...

On Nov 18, 3:29 am, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org
wrote:
 Besides those offered so far, I have still more options for you in a
 category of my CF411 site:

 Web Site Design Repositorieshttp://www.cf411.com/#sitedesign

 The site has over 100 categories and over 1000 links to resources and tools
 of interest to CFers. Anytime you might ask, does anyone know of xxx, do
 check it out. :-)

 /charlie

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  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:35 PM
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  Subject: [cfaussie] Paid template sites

  Hi all

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[cfaussie] Calculate variable size in bytes

2009-11-17 Thread BarryC
Hi,

Does anybody know if there is a way in coldfusion (or the underlying
java language) to calculate the size of a variable in bytes?

I want to calculate the size of a struct in bytes, but I cannot find a
way to calculate it and there doesn't look to be any function that
does it?

Thanks :)

Barry

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Re: [cfaussie] Calculate variable size in bytes

2009-11-17 Thread Mark Mandel
The only way I know to reliably do this is through the sizeOf Project:
http://sizeof.sourceforge.net/

But this does mean you have to include an agent with your JVM, and I don't
know what the overhead of that agent will be.

Mark

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM, BarryC barrychester...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody know if there is a way in coldfusion (or the underlying
 java language) to calculate the size of a variable in bytes?

 I want to calculate the size of a struct in bytes, but I cannot find a
 way to calculate it and there doesn't look to be any function that
 does it?

 Thanks :)

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Re: [cfaussie] Calculate variable size in bytes

2009-11-17 Thread Barry Chesterman
Cool, thanks I'll give it a try

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:

 The only way I know to reliably do this is through the sizeOf Project:
 http://sizeof.sourceforge.net/

 But this does mean you have to include an agent with your JVM, and I don't
 know what the overhead of that agent will be.

 Mark

 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM, BarryC barrychester...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody know if there is a way in coldfusion (or the underlying
 java language) to calculate the size of a variable in bytes?

 I want to calculate the size of a struct in bytes, but I cannot find a
 way to calculate it and there doesn't look to be any function that
 does it?

 Thanks :)

 Barry

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Re: [cfaussie] Calculate variable size in bytes

2009-11-17 Thread Barry Chesterman
unfortunately it requires java 5 and we only have java 4 :(

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Barry Chesterman barrychester...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Cool, thanks I'll give it a try


 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.comwrote:

 The only way I know to reliably do this is through the sizeOf Project:
 http://sizeof.sourceforge.net/

 But this does mean you have to include an agent with your JVM, and I don't
 know what the overhead of that agent will be.

 Mark

 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM, BarryC barrychester...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody know if there is a way in coldfusion (or the underlying
 java language) to calculate the size of a variable in bytes?

 I want to calculate the size of a struct in bytes, but I cannot find a
 way to calculate it and there doesn't look to be any function that
 does it?

 Thanks :)

 Barry

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Re: [cfaussie] Calculate variable size in bytes

2009-11-17 Thread Mark Mandel
Do you need to be calculating at run time? Or is this for tracking down a
memory issue?

Mark

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Barry Chesterman barrychester...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 unfortunately it requires java 5 and we only have java 4 :(


 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Barry Chesterman 
 barrychester...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cool, thanks I'll give it a try


 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.comwrote:

 The only way I know to reliably do this is through the sizeOf Project:
 http://sizeof.sourceforge.net/

 But this does mean you have to include an agent with your JVM, and I
 don't know what the overhead of that agent will be.

 Mark

 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM, BarryC barrychester...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody know if there is a way in coldfusion (or the underlying
 java language) to calculate the size of a variable in bytes?

 I want to calculate the size of a struct in bytes, but I cannot find a
 way to calculate it and there doesn't look to be any function that
 does it?

 Thanks :)

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[cfaussie] Re: Persistent Scopes and Memory

2009-11-17 Thread BarryC
Just in case anyone is interested,

Today I did a test to answer my original question; Does data in the
application and server scopes get stored in the
tenured generation memory, or the permanent generation memory?

I found that Application, Session and Server scopes all stored their
'data' in the Tenured generation space. The permanent generation
is in fact used just for information about the data, 'classes' etc.
Our site is in fact very large (university website) with lots of
different classes, and our permanent generation was only using about
50 meg of the 250 meg allocated for it.

Note that we run JRun4 with the Sun 1.4.2 JVM and Coldfusion 7.

Barry

On Nov 11, 5:14 pm, Pat Branley pbran...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Guys

 I was having a JVM problem with an app that was partially (MG/Reactor/
 ColdSpring) and paritally old-school CF this last week and did 3
 things

 1. update to the latest JVM - JVM 1.6 update 
 16http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/Java_6_and_Col...

 2. set the garbage collection to run every 10 
 minuteshttp://www.cfwhisperer.com/post.cfm/sun-jvm-1-6-heap-memory-behavior-...http://www.webapper.com/blog/index.php/2006/06/08/20060606021131/

 3. Update to CF 8.0.1 updater 
 3http://fusiongrokker.com/archives/category/coldfusion-8

 The first 2 seemed to stop the 'out of memory' errors every night, but
 no. 3 made the server actually run at a lower memory usage.

 Seems like there needs to be a special fullasagoog/mxna category for
 ColdFusion/JVM 'stuff'.

 Pat

 ps. while i could have used it last week, looking fwd to Cfobjective
 talk on JVM tuning this week!

 On Nov 8, 3:00 pm, Barry Beattie barry.beat...@gmail.com wrote:

  @Steve

  catch up with this guy

 http://cfobjective.com.au/index.cfm?objectID=27C7E0B3-1AA0-353A-5AF4E...

  he'll be in your neighborhood

 http://cfobjective.com.au/index.cfm?objectID=27CD659B-1AA0-353A-5ABF2...

  my 2c

  On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
   yep. put them all in, restarted the server and it wouldnt start
   
   From: Mark Ireland [mailto:markinc...@hotmail.com]
   Sent: Sunday, 8 November 2009 12:43 PM
   To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
   Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Persistent Scopes and Memory

   You tried everything he suggested, all at once?

   
   From: st...@cfcentral.com.au
   To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
   Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Persistent Scopes and Memory
   Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:17:12 +1100

   I tried this on my CF8.01 64 Bit server and the server wouldn't 
   restart..had
   to roll it back
   
   From: Kevin Pepperman [mailto:chorno...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2009 11:21 AM
   To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
   Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Persistent Scopes and Memory

   I believe he is referring to:

    standard garbage collector can't collect in the permanent generation

  http://www.shadocms.com/shadozoom/company/blog/2009/jvm-perm-out-of-m...
   Adding the info in this post to our jvm config solved our perm gen memory
   issues.

    CF is doing 'small' garbage collection and 'large' garbage collection.

   /K
   BR

   
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: Calculate variable size in bytes

2009-11-17 Thread Mark Mandel
I use Eclipse Memory Analyser for things like that:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/MemoryAnalyzer

You could also look at visualVM as well.

Mark

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:57 PM, BarryC barrychester...@gmail.com wrote:

 for tracking down a memory issue.

 I have a suspicion that we are actually storing too much information
 in our application scope, so I want to be able to run a script to spit
 out the current size of the application scope, and possibly parts
 within the application scope.

 Barry

 On Nov 18, 3:17 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
  Do you need to be calculating at run time? Or is this for tracking down a
  memory issue?
 
  Mark
 
  On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Barry Chesterman 
 barrychester...@gmail.com
 
 
 
   wrote:
   unfortunately it requires java 5 and we only have java 4 :(
 
   On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Barry Chesterman 
   barrychester...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Cool, thanks I'll give it a try
 
   On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   The only way I know to reliably do this is through the sizeOf
 Project:
  http://sizeof.sourceforge.net/
 
   But this does mean you have to include an agent with your JVM, and I
   don't know what the overhead of that agent will be.
 
   Mark
 
   On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM, BarryC barrychester...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
   Does anybody know if there is a way in coldfusion (or the underlying
   java language) to calculate the size of a variable in bytes?
 
   I want to calculate the size of a struct in bytes, but I cannot find
 a
   way to calculate it and there doesn't look to be any function that
   does it?
 
   Thanks :)
 
   Barry
 
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[cfaussie] Trying to consume .Net Webservice

2009-11-17 Thread Dawesi
I'm looking for someone who can help me connect to a .Net webservice
from Dept Of Education... I'm about to look at the CFX_HTTP5 com
object from the component store... before that I was wondering if
there was anyone with experience with common errors when
consuming .Net webservices.

I can see the wsdl descriptor page in both my browser and with
coldfusion however I can't post to the service without getting a
connection error.

any hints would be appreciated... webservice is password protected so
I can't give it out here, but is test environment, so can make an
exception for anyone who has had experience. I also have a test page
you could drop on your server.

Cheers,
Chris Dawes
043 three 99 44 two zero

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[cfaussie] Re: Calculate variable size in bytes

2009-11-17 Thread BarryC
oh, so that actually lets you see scopes like server, session,
application to see what overall size they have, and sizes of things
within them?
I was under the impression that you could only see the low level data
in memory.

If that's the case, then I'll give it a go :)

On Nov 18, 6:00 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use Eclipse Memory Analyser for things like 
 that:http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/MemoryAnalyzer

 You could also look at visualVM as well.

 Mark



 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:57 PM, BarryC barrychester...@gmail.com wrote:
  for tracking down a memory issue.

  I have a suspicion that we are actually storing too much information
  in our application scope, so I want to be able to run a script to spit
  out the current size of the application scope, and possibly parts
  within the application scope.

  Barry

  On Nov 18, 3:17 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
   Do you need to be calculating at run time? Or is this for tracking down a
   memory issue?

   Mark

   On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Barry Chesterman 
  barrychester...@gmail.com

wrote:
unfortunately it requires java 5 and we only have java 4 :(

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Barry Chesterman 
barrychester...@gmail.com wrote:

Cool, thanks I'll give it a try

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com
  wrote:

The only way I know to reliably do this is through the sizeOf
  Project:
   http://sizeof.sourceforge.net/

But this does mean you have to include an agent with your JVM, and I
don't know what the overhead of that agent will be.

Mark

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM, BarryC barrychester...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Hi,

Does anybody know if there is a way in coldfusion (or the underlying
java language) to calculate the size of a variable in bytes?

I want to calculate the size of a struct in bytes, but I cannot find
  a
way to calculate it and there doesn't look to be any function that
does it?

Thanks :)

Barry

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[cfaussie] Re: Trying to consume .Net Webservice

2009-11-17 Thread BarryC
Is there any directory authentication going on such as .htaccess or
IIS NTLM authentication?
Can you paste a copy of the error you get when you request the web
service?

a .Net web service should be just like consuming any other web
service, as web services are supposed to be a standard protocol.

Barry

On Nov 18, 6:18 pm, Dawesi daw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm looking for someone who can help me connect to a .Net webservice
 from Dept Of Education... I'm about to look at the CFX_HTTP5 com
 object from the component store... before that I was wondering if
 there was anyone with experience with common errors when
 consuming .Net webservices.

 I can see the wsdl descriptor page in both my browser and with
 coldfusion however I can't post to the service without getting a
 connection error.

 any hints would be appreciated... webservice is password protected so
 I can't give it out here, but is test environment, so can make an
 exception for anyone who has had experience. I also have a test page
 you could drop on your server.

 Cheers,
 Chris Dawes
 043 three 99 44 two zero

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Re: [cfaussie] Trying to consume .Net Webservice

2009-11-17 Thread skateboard.com.au
I tried for ages to get it to work with cf6, maybe it works with later versions 
I dont know. 
That said, in cf6 you can't do it natively because .net used the schema that 
allows multi 
return values and such. I ended up just using straight cfhttp and doing it all 
at the soap 
level.

cheers

Drew Peacock

-Original Message-
From: Dawesi daw...@gmail.com
To: cfaussie cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:18:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [cfaussie] Trying to consume .Net Webservice

 I'm looking for someone who can help me connect to a .Net webservice
 from Dept Of Education... I'm about to look at the CFX_HTTP5 com
 object from the component store... before that I was wondering if
 there was anyone with experience with common errors when
 consuming .Net webservices.
 
 I can see the wsdl descriptor page in both my browser and with
 coldfusion however I can't post to the service without getting a
 connection error.
 
 any hints would be appreciated... webservice is password protected so
 I can't give it out here, but is test environment, so can make an
 exception for anyone who has had experience. I also have a test page
 you could drop on your server.
 
 Cheers,
 Chris Dawes
 043 three 99 44 two zero
 
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Re: [cfaussie] Trying to consume .Net Webservice

2009-11-17 Thread skateboard.com.au
yeah, because i suck

-Original Message-
From: Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.com
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:45:13 +1100
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Trying to consume .Net Webservice

 any reason you haven't tried a modern release like CF8 or cf9 ?
 
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:42 PM, skateboard.com.au
 w...@skateboard.com.auwrote:
 
  I tried for ages to get it to work with cf6, maybe it works with
 later
  versions I dont know.
  That said, in cf6 you can't do it natively because .net used the
 schema
  that allows multi
  return values and such. I ended up just using straight cfhttp and
 doing it
  all at the soap
  level.
 
  cheers
 
  Drew Peacock
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dawesi daw...@gmail.com
  To: cfaussie cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:18:37 -0800 (PST)
  Subject: [cfaussie] Trying to consume .Net Webservice
 
   I'm looking for someone who can help me connect to a .Net
 webservice
   from Dept Of Education... I'm about to look at the CFX_HTTP5 com
   object from the component store... before that I was wondering if
   there was anyone with experience with common errors when
   consuming .Net webservices.
  
   I can see the wsdl descriptor page in both my browser and with
   coldfusion however I can't post to the service without getting a
   connection error.
  
   any hints would be appreciated... webservice is password protected
 so
   I can't give it out here, but is test environment, so can make an
   exception for anyone who has had experience. I also have a test
 page
   you could drop on your server.
  
   Cheers,
   Chris Dawes
   043 three 99 44 two zero
  
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Re: [cfaussie] Trying to consume .Net Webservice

2009-11-17 Thread Christophe Albrech
Connection error might very well be a certificate problem.
  - does it run over SSL, and if so have you downloaded the cert file and
installed it?
  - you said department of education. I integrate with DECSSA (department of
education and children services SA). same guys?
  - one great tool to play with web services is SOAPui, give it a try. you
can point to the WSDL directly, and it will create a test harness on the fly
for you.
  - I've had problems in the past connecting to third party webservices with
CF. one way I found worked all the time is a CFHTTP to the end point in
which you just pass the soap packet through.

Anyway, it's beer O clock.

Cheers,

Tof

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:49 PM, skateboard.com.au 
w...@skateboard.com.auwrote:

 yeah, because i suck

 -Original Message-
 From: Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.com
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:45:13 +1100
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Trying to consume .Net Webservice

  any reason you haven't tried a modern release like CF8 or cf9 ?
 
  On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:42 PM, skateboard.com.au
  w...@skateboard.com.auwrote:
 
   I tried for ages to get it to work with cf6, maybe it works with
  later
   versions I dont know.
   That said, in cf6 you can't do it natively because .net used the
  schema
   that allows multi
   return values and such. I ended up just using straight cfhttp and
  doing it
   all at the soap
   level.
  
   cheers
  
   Drew Peacock
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dawesi daw...@gmail.com
   To: cfaussie cfaussie@googlegroups.com
   Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:18:37 -0800 (PST)
   Subject: [cfaussie] Trying to consume .Net Webservice
  
I'm looking for someone who can help me connect to a .Net
  webservice
from Dept Of Education... I'm about to look at the CFX_HTTP5 com
object from the component store... before that I was wondering if
there was anyone with experience with common errors when
consuming .Net webservices.
   
I can see the wsdl descriptor page in both my browser and with
coldfusion however I can't post to the service without getting a
connection error.
   
any hints would be appreciated... webservice is password protected
  so
I can't give it out here, but is test environment, so can make an
exception for anyone who has had experience. I also have a test
  page
you could drop on your server.
   
Cheers,
Chris Dawes
043 three 99 44 two zero
   
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: Calculate variable size in bytes

2009-11-17 Thread Mark Mandel
You can see individual objects in memory... so yes, you just need to know
the Java class names of Application, Session etc (pretty easy to guess), and
work from there.

Mark

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:31 PM, BarryC barrychester...@gmail.com wrote:

 oh, so that actually lets you see scopes like server, session,
 application to see what overall size they have, and sizes of things
 within them?
 I was under the impression that you could only see the low level data
 in memory.

 If that's the case, then I'll give it a go :)

 On Nov 18, 6:00 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
  I use Eclipse Memory Analyser for things like that:
 http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/MemoryAnalyzer
 
  You could also look at visualVM as well.
 
  Mark
 
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:57 PM, BarryC barrychester...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   for tracking down a memory issue.
 
   I have a suspicion that we are actually storing too much information
   in our application scope, so I want to be able to run a script to spit
   out the current size of the application scope, and possibly parts
   within the application scope.
 
   Barry
 
   On Nov 18, 3:17 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you need to be calculating at run time? Or is this for tracking
 down a
memory issue?
 
Mark
 
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Barry Chesterman 
   barrychester...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:
 unfortunately it requires java 5 and we only have java 4 :(
 
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Barry Chesterman 
 barrychester...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Cool, thanks I'll give it a try
 
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Mark Mandel 
 mark.man...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
 The only way I know to reliably do this is through the sizeOf
   Project:
http://sizeof.sourceforge.net/
 
 But this does mean you have to include an agent with your JVM,
 and I
 don't know what the overhead of that agent will be.
 
 Mark
 
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM, BarryC 
 barrychester...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Does anybody know if there is a way in coldfusion (or the
 underlying
 java language) to calculate the size of a variable in bytes?
 
 I want to calculate the size of a struct in bytes, but I cannot
 find
   a
 way to calculate it and there doesn't look to be any function
 that
 does it?
 
 Thanks :)
 
 Barry
 
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