[cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers meeting for Thursday November 24th 2011

2011-11-23 Thread Gavin Baumanis
I'll be here.
It's surprisingly - not that far to travel anymore :)
 
Gavin.

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[cfaussie] CF 9 - Socket Event Gateway

2011-11-23 Thread Miro
I'm having some issues with socket connections timing out.

The aim of this application is to provide our product functionality on
a mobile device.
To achieve this, the data should be made available on the mobile
device while the device is offline.
I'm trying to get around the typical HTTP request/response process by
using a persistent connection where data can be transferred (streamed)
without timeout consideration.
I'm using a Coldfusion Socket Gateway Service to synchronise heavy
data load (50,000+ rows) to a mobile device.
The Server Socket is implemented using Apache MINA (2.0.4) framework.

The synchronisation has an initial download, this loads all the data.
After that, only updates are loaded.
The synchronisation runs through an ordered sequence of tasks. Each
task handles a specific part of the data.
Each task makes a request to the server asking for data. The server
processes the request and responds (streams) the data back. It then
loops through the resultset of a query (e.g. 28,000 records) and
converts each row to a JSON message and writes it out to the socket
using the sendGatewayMessage() function.

In cases where a lot of data needs to be processed I'm facing some
issues.

The error messages are not very useful, and in most cases I'm not
getting any message (throwable cause).
Randomly I get the message An established connection was aborted by
the host system. I found out that the heap space gets filled up while
processing the data and that could lead to the connections being
dropped by the server. I fixed the memory leak so that it stops
growing after a while but it still peaks at a certain amount before it
starts dropping slowly. Furthermore, I have segmented the data as much
as possible. So far this message has not reoccurred.

Are there any memory implications of returning a query from a cfc, or
converting a query row to a struct?

I'm still having some issues on the client side when the read timeout
is exceeded and the synchronisation fails. I assume that the
connection gets dropped or the server could not write to the socket
for some reason.

The only message that I get now is: Warning: Thread-90, processing
template C:\Coldfusion9\gateway\cfc\myapp\Main.cfc, completed in x
(e.g. 400) seconds, exceeding the 30 second warning limit

Any ideas, thoughts, experience with socket event gateways?

Server (test-)environment:
Windows Server 2003 (64bit) (1GB RAM)
Coldfusion 9

Client environment:
iPad, using cocoaasyncsocket (socket network library)

Thanks,

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Re: [cfaussie] Best JVM version to use with CF9

2011-11-23 Thread Kai Koenig
It depends.

.24 is as people have said - the latest, officially supported version. 

People have reported running it successfully with later releases - I'd 
personally do that if there's a particular bug fix or improvement you want to 
take advantage of.

Cheers
Kai

On 17/11/2011, at 4:21 PM, Paul Kukiel wrote:

 .17 with 9 and I think .21 with 9.01 in September this year Adobe announced 
 the recommend .24 and that it's officially tested and supported
 
 Paul Kukiel
 
 On 17/11/2011, at 2:16 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 
 I am currently running 1.6.0_21
  
 What version was shipped with CF9?
  
 From: Paul Kukiel [mailto:kuki...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 2:13 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Best JVM version to use with CF9
  
 Adobe recommend and officially support 1.6.24 which is what I run in 
 production.  Not sure if there is any Benicia going higher but you should 
 goto .24 to addresses issues with earlier releases
  
 Paul Kukiel
 
 On 17/11/2011, at 2:09 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 
 Any recommendations regarding the JVM to use with CF9?  I have updated mine 
 but if there is a specific version that people have found best I would love 
 to hear
  
 Steve
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[cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers meeting for Thursday November 24th 2011

2011-11-23 Thread Chong
I will be there tonight as well

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Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Zac Spitzer
yeah I agree the search is a bit rubbish, half a million options and
it never just works... I really miss homesite...

there should be a right click on folder to do a search

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?



 For me:-



 -  The search is just useless really.  If you search for something
 in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the
 line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt
 through the file

 -  Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.  I
 always get a “No file open” message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
 different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to
 work.

 -  There is no direction option for the search which means if you
 want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
 document for it to search the whole thing

 -  You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.





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RE: [cfaussie] ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Steve Onnis
I am really starting to miss it too!

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From: Zac Spitzer [mailto:zac.spit...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 3:46 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion Builder Opinions

yeah I agree the search is a bit rubbish, half a million options and
it never just works... I really miss homesite...

there should be a right click on folder to do a search

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?



 For me:-



 -  The search is just useless really.  If you search for something
 in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into
the
 line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to
hunt
 through the file

 -  Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. 
I
 always get a “No file open” message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
 different source and then choose the Current document option again for it
to
 work.

 -  There is no direction option for the search which means if you
 want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
 document for it to search the whole thing

 -  You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.





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Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Zac Spitzer
the tag editors are also rather primitive and the online help is
really annoying, why do we have to always click see also?

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 I am really starting to miss it too!

 -Original Message-
 From: Zac Spitzer [mailto:zac.spit...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 3:46 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion Builder Opinions

 yeah I agree the search is a bit rubbish, half a million options and
 it never just works... I really miss homesite...

 there should be a right click on folder to do a search

 On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?



 For me:-



 -  The search is just useless really.  If you search for something
 in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into
 the
 line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to
 hunt
 through the file

 -  Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.
 I
 always get a “No file open” message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
 different source and then choose the Current document option again for it
 to
 work.

 -  There is no direction option for the search which means if you
 want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
 document for it to search the whole thing

 -  You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.





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[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Peter Robertson
So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
then across files.

I think it's all right.

Peter Robertson

On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?

 For me:-

 -          The search is just useless really.  If you search for something
 in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the
 line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt
 through the file

 -          Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.  I
 always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
 different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to
 work.

 -          There is no direction option for the search which means if you
 want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
 document for it to search the whole thing

 -          You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Mark Mandel
I have to say - this week I started working in IntelliJ again, just to see
how it was going with the new 11 release coming out.

I am really, really, really liking it.

It definitely has some rough edges, and it's been a bit of a learning
curve, but man is it FAST, and it does some really nice stuff around
component path completion and the like.

Worth having a poke at if you're not satisfied with Builder.

Mark

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Peter Robertson 
peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
 Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
 under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
 structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
 and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
 and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
 from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
 search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
 then across files.

 I think it's all right.

 Peter Robertson

 On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
  Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?
 
  For me:-
 
  -  The search is just useless really.  If you search for
 something
  in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into
 the
  line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to
 hunt
  through the file
 
  -  Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.
  I
  always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
  different source and then choose the Current document option again for
 it to
  work.
 
  -  There is no direction option for the search which means if you
  want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
  document for it to search the whole thing
 
  -  You have to open a new search box for every file you have
 open.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Andrew Myers
Tweaking the eclipse.ini seems to help with CF Builder also.  These
are the vmargs I use, and it's a lot nicer than it was...

-vmargs
-XX:+UseParallelGC
-XX:PermSize=256M
-Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5
-Xms512m
-Xmx1024m
-XX:+UseParallelGC
-XX:PermSize=256M
-XX:MaxPermSize=512M

On 24 November 2011 16:57, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 A couple of the guys at AusPost were using that. It looked really nice too
 and the IDE seemed very fast, much faster than eclipse



 From: Mark Mandel [mailto:mark.man...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 4:42 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions



 I have to say - this week I started working in IntelliJ again, just to see
 how it was going with the new 11 release coming out.



 I am really, really, really liking it.



 It definitely has some rough edges, and it's been a bit of a learning curve,
 but man is it FAST, and it does some really nice stuff around component path
 completion and the like.



 Worth having a poke at if you're not satisfied with Builder.



 Mark

 On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Peter Robertson
 peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
 Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
 under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
 structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
 and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
 and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
 from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
 search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
 then across files.

 I think it's all right.

 Peter Robertson

 On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?

 For me:-

 -          The search is just useless really.  If you search for something
 in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into
 the
 line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to
 hunt
 through the file

 -          Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.
  I
 always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
 different source and then choose the Current document option again for it
 to
 work.

 -          There is no direction option for the search which means if you
 want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
 document for it to search the whole thing

 -          You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Andrew Myers
Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find
dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document,
all open documents, project, workspace, etc.

Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's
default behaviour.  But it's pretty good.

On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
 Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
 under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
 structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
 and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
 and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
 from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
 search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
 then across files.

 I think it's all right.

 Peter Robertson

 On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?

 For me:-

 -          The search is just useless really.  If you search for something
 in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the
 line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt
 through the file

 -          Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.  I
 always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
 different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to
 work.

 -          There is no direction option for the search which means if you
 want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
 document for it to search the whole thing

 -          You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.

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RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Steve Onnis
Thats the worst search feature of them all

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find
dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document,
all open documents, project, workspace, etc.

Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's
default behaviour.  But it's pretty good.

On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com
wrote:
 So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
 Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
 under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
 structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
 and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
 and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
 from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
 search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
 then across files.

 I think it's all right.

 Peter Robertson

 On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?

 For me:-

 -          The search is just useless really.  If you search for
something
 in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into
the
 line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to
hunt
 through the file

 -          Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.
 I
 always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
 different source and then choose the Current document option again for it
to
 work.

 -          There is no direction option for the search which means if you
 want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
 document for it to search the whole thing

 -          You have to open a new search box for every file you have
open.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Andrew Myers
What makes you say so?

On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Thats the worst search feature of them all

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

 Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find
 dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document,
 all open documents, project, workspace, etc.

 Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's
 default behaviour.  But it's pretty good.

 On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
 Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
 under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
 structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
 and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
 and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
 from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
 search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
 then across files.

 I think it's all right.

 Peter Robertson

 On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?

 For me:-

 -          The search is just useless really.  If you search for
 something
 in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into
 the
 line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to
 hunt
 through the file

 -          Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.
  I
 always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
 different source and then choose the Current document option again for it
 to
 work.

 -          There is no direction option for the search which means if you
 want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
 document for it to search the whole thing

 -          You have to open a new search box for every file you have
 open.

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RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Steve Onnis
Refer to my first email

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:37 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

What makes you say so?

On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Thats the worst search feature of them all

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

 Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find
 dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document,
 all open documents, project, workspace, etc.

 Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's
 default behaviour.  But it's pretty good.

 On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
 Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
 under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
 structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
 and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
 and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
 from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
 search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
 then across files.

 I think it's all right.

 Peter Robertson

 On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?

 For me:-

 -          The search is just useless really.  If you search for
 something
 in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into
 the
 line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to
 hunt
 through the file

 -          Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.
  I
 always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
 different source and then choose the Current document option again for
it
 to
 work.

 -          There is no direction option for the search which means if
you
 want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
 document for it to search the whole thing

 -          You have to open a new search box for every file you have
 open.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Andrew Myers

-  The search is just useless really.  If you search for
something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could
drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears
instead of having to hunt through the file


CTRL - F, change scope to projects, select a project, press find all,
and you get a search results view which has a tree view which has
next match / previous match options, and expands to show each match
in each file.  Click it to go to the exact line of the match.  By
default the search view opens in the right hand pane.  I prefer to
move it to the bottom pane (somewhere near the servers view).  If
you're not seeing it go to Window - Show View - Search


-  Searching in the file you are working on/have open is
flakey.  I always get a “No file open” message and im like WTF?  I
have to select a different source and then choose the Current document
option again for it to work.


Have never seen this myself.  Has anyone else noticed it?


-  There is no direction option for the search which means if
you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of
the document for it to search the whole thing


In the CTRL - F dialog there is a search backwards option I
also like to to enable the Wrap search option too


-  You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.


I don't see this behaviour at all.  CTRL - F allows you to repeat
your search on every open file - select files using the workspace
editor tabs and repeat the search in there if you want.

Andrew.

On 24 November 2011 17:46, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Refer to my first email

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:37 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

 What makes you say so?

 On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Thats the worst search feature of them all

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

 Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find
 dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document,
 all open documents, project, workspace, etc.

 Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's
 default behaviour.  But it's pretty good.

 On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
 Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
 under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
 structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
 and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
 and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
 from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
 search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
 then across files.

 I think it's all right.

 Peter Robertson

 On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?

 For me:-

 -          The search is just useless really.  If you search for
 something
 in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into
 the
 line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to
 hunt
 through the file

 -          Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.
  I
 always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
 different source and then choose the Current document option again for
 it
 to
 work.

 -          There is no direction option for the search which means if
 you
 want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
 document for it to search the whole thing

 -          You have to open a new search box for every file you have
 open.

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[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Rawdyn
I'm so glad I'm not the only one.

I have tried so hard to like it. This is my second go at using it and
I have been on it for 6 months or more now and I still don't like it
nearly as much as HomeSite+.

Might be a great CFUG to demo a few other options like IntelliJ etc.

Rawdy

On Nov 24, 6:09 pm, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote:
 -          The search is just useless really.  If you search for
 something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could
 drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears
 instead of having to hunt through the file
 

 CTRL - F, change scope to projects, select a project, press find all,
 and you get a search results view which has a tree view which has
 next match / previous match options, and expands to show each match
 in each file.  Click it to go to the exact line of the match.  By
 default the search view opens in the right hand pane.  I prefer to
 move it to the bottom pane (somewhere near the servers view).  If
 you're not seeing it go to Window - Show View - Search



 -          Searching in the file you are working on/have open is
 flakey.  I always get a “No file open” message and im like WTF?  I
 have to select a different source and then choose the Current document
 option again for it to work.
 

 Have never seen this myself.  Has anyone else noticed it?



 -          There is no direction option for the search which means if
 you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of
 the document for it to search the whole thing
 

 In the CTRL - F dialog there is a search backwards option I
 also like to to enable the Wrap search option too



 -          You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.
 

 I don't see this behaviour at all.  CTRL - F allows you to repeat
 your search on every open file - select files using the workspace
 editor tabs and repeat the search in there if you want.

 Andrew.

 On 24 November 2011 17:46, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:

  Refer to my first email

  -Original Message-
  From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:37 PM
  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

  What makes you say so?

  On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
  Thats the worst search feature of them all

  -Original Message-
  From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM
  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

  Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find
  dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document,
  all open documents, project, workspace, etc.

  Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's
  default behaviour.  But it's pretty good.

  On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
  Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
  under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
  structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
  and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
  and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
  from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
  search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
  then across files.

  I think it's all right.

  Peter Robertson

  On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
  Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?

  For me:-

  -          The search is just useless really.  If you search for
  something
  in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into
  the
  line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to
  hunt
  through the file

  -          Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.
   I
  always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
  different source and then choose the Current document option again for
  it
  to
  work.

  -          There is no direction option for the search which means if
  you
  want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
  document for it to search the whole thing

  -          You have to open a new search box for every file you have
  open.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Kai Koenig
Just a random thought (note: I don't have/see any of those issues people seem 
to have with the product - I actually think the search works great)...

Have you guys ever tried to make those suggestions/rants to Adobe. Not to Adobe 
corporate - we all know that it's ... well... rather difficult to get through 
to them. 

But to the CF/CF Builder product/engineering team directly? To (ex)-folks in 
product management like Adam or Rakshith? To Hemant or Rupesh in engineering 
management? Or to Terry? They've been to events like webDU or cf.O(ANZ) in the 
past - or - hey, actually just last week. The CF product team is _by far_ the 
easiest-to-approach product team within whole Adobe. If anyone _honestly_ wants 
to get in touch with those guys and help to improve the software so that it's 
more useful for you or your team or your whole company - I'm more than happy to 
put you in touch, just let me know.

Instead of complaining how much one misses Homesite or how bad one thinks CFB 
is etc - do something about it if you don't like it. Give direct feedback. Ask 
them for solutions/workarounds. Ask them to be part of pre-release programs and 
contribute in there. But don't magically expect a tool that's exactly doing 
what you want it to do and exactly how you want it to be done.

Just saying, 
Kai


 I'm so glad I'm not the only one.
 
 I have tried so hard to like it. This is my second go at using it and
 I have been on it for 6 months or more now and I still don't like it
 nearly as much as HomeSite+.
 
 Might be a great CFUG to demo a few other options like IntelliJ etc.
 
 Rawdy
 
 On Nov 24, 6:09 pm, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote:
 -  The search is just useless really.  If you search for
 something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could
 drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears
 instead of having to hunt through the file
 
 
 CTRL - F, change scope to projects, select a project, press find all,
 and you get a search results view which has a tree view which has
 next match / previous match options, and expands to show each match
 in each file.  Click it to go to the exact line of the match.  By
 default the search view opens in the right hand pane.  I prefer to
 move it to the bottom pane (somewhere near the servers view).  If
 you're not seeing it go to Window - Show View - Search
 
 
 
 -  Searching in the file you are working on/have open is
 flakey.  I always get a “No file open” message and im like WTF?  I
 have to select a different source and then choose the Current document
 option again for it to work.
 
 
 Have never seen this myself.  Has anyone else noticed it?
 
 
 
 -  There is no direction option for the search which means if
 you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of
 the document for it to search the whole thing
 
 
 In the CTRL - F dialog there is a search backwards option I
 also like to to enable the Wrap search option too
 
 
 
 -  You have to open a new search box for every file you have open.
 
 
 I don't see this behaviour at all.  CTRL - F allows you to repeat
 your search on every open file - select files using the workspace
 editor tabs and repeat the search in there if you want.
 
 Andrew.
 
 On 24 November 2011 17:46, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 
 Refer to my first email
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:37 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
 
 What makes you say so?
 
 On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
 Thats the worst search feature of them all
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
 
 Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find
 dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document,
 all open documents, project, workspace, etc.
 
 Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's
 default behaviour.  But it's pretty good.
 
 On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
 Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
 under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
 structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
 and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
 and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
 from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
 search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
 then across files.
 
 I think it's all right.
 
 Peter Robertson
 
 On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis