[cfaussie] Web on the Piste 08
Hi All, Just to let you all know Web on the Piste 08 is all go and we have just signed Microsoft and Cynergy Systems as Gold sponsors which is great news and helps pay the beer bills! For those of you that didn't make it last year it's a very intimate conference and a great venue for learning, networking and having the odd adventure or two!. We have the draft agenda up http://www.webonthepiste.com/webonthepiste/agenda/agenda_home.cfm and we still have a couple of big name US based Flex gurus to put in once we have them confirmed up. The theme this year is around usability and how you use the rich technologies from Adobe and MS to build better web applications along with a splattering of general web stuff. We have Robert Hoekman Jr who's book, Designing the Obvious is one the best usability books out there, coming as a keynote speaker to kick things off. Both Adobe and Microsoft are sending top international speakers and we're flying down some top Flex gurus from the US. This is on top of the best local talent around. The snow has been ordered and was due to arrive this week so it will be a great weekend as well. Last years event really went well and this year should be even better. We've stopped the early bird rate but if you email [EMAIL PROTECTED] she may be able to do a deal if you are on this list! Word on the street is that we may also offer the Cairngorm intro course (delivered by Thomas Burleson who has written the official Cairngorm course for Adobe) for FREE the day before the conference but I'll confirm that up later this week. I've also heard that Geoff Bowers is going to use all the money he's making from the Farcry commercial licenses to run an open bar tab on the Thursday evening. He said something like you guys couldn't drink it , faster than I'm making it!!. Cheers Grant http://www.zoomflex.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: JVM Heap Size
Hey Guys, If you're JVM is running out of memory then there are 3 main reasons in my experience 1. You are putting too much stuff into memory, normal cause is that you are running a lot of queries. 2. You have unvar'd variables in a CFC 3. Perm size too small The size of the heap is a function of tuning the JVM based on how your specific application uses memory. Quick rule would be to give it as much as you can. There are other factors such as garbage collection and Perm memory. You might find upping the perm size can fix things, the perm is like an index of stuff in the heap and can also run out of memory, early version of CF came with a silly perm size which was way too small. In the days of CF6 we were plagued by performance issues which drove me to invest a huge amount of time to figure out why and then have enough material to write a book on the subject. Since then the following have resolved most issues: 1. We addressed the issues in our code base causing the issues ( many of which we didn't know would cause us an issue at the time of writing them) 2. We tuned servers based on a simple profiler 3. Got our customers to read my book and figure out site specific issues themselves On top of this other major factors that have helped : 1. New versions of Java (1.4,1.5 and 1.6 all had big performance improvements) 2. New versions of CF (CF8 rocks for performance) 3. Memory and CPU power of servers increasing We very seldom have to deal with performance issues these days and have much larger applications running and a lot more clients so one or all of the above helped for sure. As a few people a month still purchase my book (and the Mrs lets me have it as my beer money) I'm not feeling charitable enough to give out to the community just yet but should maybe blog a few pointers. Grant On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Kai Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heya, I've given a MXDU presentation on that stuff in 2005 (http://www.bloginblack.de/archives/000630.cfm) - Slide 34 actually has a few good references to read up on the topic if you like. Basically - I can't agree more to Stephen - JVM settings can ruin your performance if done wrongly and they can improve your performance as soon as your systems architecture derives from the standard environment. Not sure which JVM you're on, here's another good read for 1.4.2: http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/gc1.4.2/ Cheers Kai On May 12, 12:07 pm, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone shed some light on what the JVM Heap Size is actually meant to do? For example, if I set it to the max heap size of 512mb, does that mean that the actual memory consumed by the jrun.exe should not exceed 512mb ? I have an issue where if the jrun.exe memory usage goes over say 600mb the cf server just dies and stops responding unless I restart the cf server and its driving me bananas. Anyone got any ideas? Is this single-processor, multi-processor? Have you got any settings for Garbage Collection (concurrent,parallel copying, parallel scaveging?) I got a copy of CFMX troubleshooting and Optimization by some Nu Zeelun dude (hello Grant) and it says If you are using more than one processor than the selecting the correct collector can have a major impact on JVM regards, Stephen Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Parallels or Bootcamp?
vmware Fusion , I just switched from Paralles and find it has better performance but the bottom line is you need a mac with a lot of RAM if you want to run virtual windows. On Oct 8, 5:20 pm, Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We want to run a CF Server, IIS, and MS SQL Server 2005 on a Mac Laptop under a virtual environment. Does Parallels have enough grunt to achieve this? Or should I look at Bootcamp.. is Bootcamp stable enough? thanks Ryan Sabir Technical Director p: (02) 9274 8030 f: (02) 9274 8099 m: 0411 512 454 w:www.newgency.comNewgencyPty Ltd Web | Multimedia | eMarketing 115 Cooper St Surry Hills NSW 2010 Sydney, Australia --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: ShadoMX content management
Hi Stephen, You are probably better posting this on the Shado mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and we can help you out. Grant On Sep 13, 5:32 pm, Stephen M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just started managing this system that runs ShadoMX content management on CFMX6.1 But its falling over on a daily basis. The only thing I can get out of the logs is A timeout occurred while attempting to lock the APPLICATION scope. I don't know whether Shado is the victim or the cause, we are also running a few Mach-II apps on the same server, but the logs only point to the above error in the Shado index.cfm anyone else out running Shado regards, Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFMX 6.1 Admin
Hi Stephen,
I have written a PDF book on optimizing CF performance which covers
off the optimum settings for the JVM and JRUN so I'll send you a copy
as I recall promising Douglas this at some point in the past. You
should also adjust your maxpermsize (to 128m) as this was a frequent
cause of out of memory exceptions in CF 6.1.
Other than that you are on an old build of Shado (and CF) which can
have a few memory issues (the reason I wrote the book ;-) ) if you are
running very large queries.
Cheers
Grant
On Sep 14, 1:34 pm, Stephen M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've got a 6.1MX system that is crashing way too often. It might be
the Shado content management setup, but I'm asking that question on
another forum.
Ithought I should try to tweak the admin settings. I have just found
a few java.lang.OutOfMemoryError errors in the exception log so that
means I should increase the JVM Max Heap size doesn't it?
Although the OutOfMemoryError doesn't always correspond to the crashes
so there is probably something else going on as well.
At the moment the JVM Max Heap size is set to 512MB, there is no Min
size set. A bit of googling through various java mailing list
archives suggests I should set Min to the same as Max for improved
performance.
Any suggestions? Its way too late for load testing. I've just got to
stick something in to see if it works better. I'm aware that
increasing the Max heap setting makes for more work for the Garbage
Collector and could therefore result in decreased performance. Are
there any other potential problems?
To complicate thing I have the following startup string set. Again,
my search of the archives suggests that MaxpermSize is a different
parameter not related to Max or Min Heap size. Should I be adjusting
this string as well.?
-server -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -Xbootclasspath/
a:{application.home}/../lib/webchartsJava2D.jar -XX:MaxPermSize=128m
-XX:+UseParallelGC
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[cfaussie] Re: ajaxCFC and IE7 Issue
it might be an unescaped string On 11/09/2007, jonny_noog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've been working a fair bit lately on a project that uses ajaxCFC, and I have just come across a strange bug that I was hoping someone may be able to shed some light on. I have a page where the main scripts that make up the JS side of ajaxCFC are present, when a user clicks on a element on the page, ajaxCFC is used to send form data to the server, nothing really unusual. And it all works just beautifully in Firefox. But in IE7 when the page loads, I get one of those unhelpful error messages from IE that tells me: Line: 9 Char: 3 Error: 'null' is null or not an object Code: 0 URL: the page I'm looking at It seems that the issue may have something to do with util.js, which is part of ajaxCFC, if I comment out the line that includes util.js, then the error goes away but is replaced with another error complaining that DWRUtil is undefined, due to this object being in the file I just commented out and this object being needed to serialize the form data to be sent. So I guess my questions are: 1: Can anybody tell me how to interpret this crappy error output from IE? Within which file should I be looking at line 9? As it's not the HTML page I'm looking at that's for sure. Looking at line 9 in util.js shows me a comment line, not code... 2. Has anyone come across a any similar 'null' is null or not an object errors with a JS script that works just fine in Firefox but gives this error in IE7? Any help much appreciated as always. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Web on the Piste animations
Good to hear Scott's a father again and all is well. There was never any doubt that he would make it ;-), he was actually very well behaved although I didn't see his credit card out once during the event, so he might be under a tighter raine these days. The bar we used for the end of conference party had never seen such a large bar tab which basically used a complete roll of till paper so there was a few sore heads on the Friday. What was even funnier was that certain male attendees were letting in groups of single females into the event and Merryn was going around and throwing them out again. The web jam and panel discussions were great and we'll have to get Tom Link from Universal Mind to blog his winning application in the web jam as it was pretty neat. On Aug 27, 11:17 am, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: re: the Nectarine animations: the jokes involving Scott Barnes would have fallen a bit flat if he couldn't have made it ... and he almost didn't Scott became a father for the second time yesterday. Reports so far indicate all are well... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Web on the Piste update
Hi All, Just over 30 days until the conference which is the most fun you can have with your pants on (flying down a mountain on a plank to boot). The link below is to the latest newsletter on what is happening. The agenda is up and we still have a few adjustments to make as the last speakers/topics are confirmed. Deal is that there are a lot of very high quality speakers including from the US; Ray Camden(knows a bit about CF) and Thomas Burleson (This guy is as good as it gets with Flex), the usual suspects from AP including Robin Hilliard, Geoff Bowers, Mark Stanton etc., and a few other foreigners that know what they are talking about. Not to mention a few Kiwi's to add a bit of cream on the cake ;-). For the business minded we also have some excellent business speakers including Rod Dury who has made around 120 Million in the last year from selling and creating a couple of software companies. On/Off the Piste special events - all I can say if you are musical then bring your instrument along. We're aiming to get 150 attendees and we are on target for this with us just getting over the ton at the moment. You'll learn lots, have fun, maybe fit in a bit of board time and meet a heap of cool people. If you have a funny credit card we don't accept then let me now as we can invoice you. http://www.webonthepiste.com/mailout.cfm Any questions let me know. Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Large CSV's and server timeouts
Hi y'All Here's the scenario: we have a csv file that contains 1.5 million rows and is provided by an external vendor. we need to either (a) parse the csv and insert into a DB, or (b) do lookups directly on the csv. We do not and cannot have SQLloader. The DB is ORA10g. The servers are old and under fairly high load all the time. We've tried splitting the csv into smaller chunks and inserting into the DB and also trying a SQL link straight into the CSV. Anything we try time's out and basically brings down the server. Who can shed light on the most efficient way to solve this problem? Thanks Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Large CSV's and server timeouts
Thanks Andrew. That's actually the path we're heading down (a custom java app); I thought I'd post here to ensure we're not re-inventing the wheel... Thanks! On 14/06/07, Scott Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you could import it into MS Access (by hand) then into Oracle. I am a MS SQL user myself so I do not know what oracle tools there are available. grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/06/2007 9:53 am Hi y'All Here's the scenario: we have a csv file that contains 1.5 million rows and is provided by an external vendor. we need to either (a) parse the csv and insert into a DB, or (b) do lookups directly on the csv. We do not and cannot have SQLloader. The DB is ORA10g. The servers are old and under fairly high load all the time. We've tried splitting the csv into smaller chunks and inserting into the DB and also trying a SQL link straight into the CSV. Anything we try time's out and basically brings down the server. Who can shed light on the most efficient way to solve this problem? Thanks Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] isDefined() bad?
Hi All My patchy memory keeps nagging at me not to use isDefined(). Am I off-base or do I remember something about it being best-practice to avoid isDefined()? Who's got the low-down? Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?
Wow thanks for the response people. My question is really out of pure laziness - I have a huge struct that i need to check a key for - the actual key path is session.currentuser.currentreport.filters.currentfilter.filterset, where filters, currentfilter and filterset may not be present. so it's heaps easier to do a isDefined( session.currentuser.currentreport.filters.currentfilter.filterset) than structKeyExists(session.currentuser.currentreport, filters) and structKeyExists(session.currentuser.currentreport.filters, currentfilter) and so on. or am i missing something? On 05/06/07, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having seen more than my fair share of request scope abuse, I can see why he would. I think easy access to request in CF can cause poor code. But then again, guns don't kill people, people kill people, right? Peter Tilbrook wrote: I agree (disciplined) but he then bagged the request scope so now I am not so sure. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: isDefined() bad?
@Dale: It throws. @Haikal: Good Point. It's that laziness again - setting up and maintaining defaults can be rather tiresome. On 05/06/07, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I favour sane defaults rather than having to check for presence of variables all the time. And the bigger and more complicated your data structs get, I think having to check to see if a variable exists is a quick path to insanity. Side effect of eating too much spaghetti... grant wrote: Wow thanks for the response people. My question is really out of pure laziness - I have a huge struct that i need to check a key for - the actual key path is session.currentuser.currentreport.filters.currentfilter.filterset , where filters, currentfilter and filterset may not be present. so it's heaps easier to do a isDefined( session.currentuser.currentreport.filters.currentfilter.filterset) than structKeyExists(session.currentuser.currentreport , filters) and structKeyExists(session.currentuser.currentreport.filters, currentfilter) and so on. or am i missing something? On 05/06/07, * Haikal Saadh* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having seen more than my fair share of request scope abuse, I can see why he would. I think easy access to request in CF can cause poor code. But then again, guns don't kill people, people kill people, right? Peter Tilbrook wrote: I agree (disciplined) but he then bagged the request scope so now I am not so sure. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFAussie Community Head Count
i like to lurk On 01/06/07, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reading and responding Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Web on the Piste Agenda
Hi All, A quick update on the Web on the Piste conference. We've put up the draft agenda (link below) and sessions for those of you looking to come along. It's still in draft as we still finalizing who is speaking on what and which speakers sponsors are sending etc. We have some great speakers coming and we are basically defining the sessions / topics based on attendee input and then asking speakers to pick topics they can deliver on. The agenda obviously points towards the main themes of the topics. The theme of the conference is RIA tehcnologies so we have signed up Microsoft as well as Adobe as sponsors and are chasing Sun with their JavaFX (especially in the mobile space) technology as well. The upshot being that you can come to the conference and get sessions that inform and up skill on the various RIA server and client technologies to allow you to make informed decisions on where they fit in your business / technical projects. We feel that having a multi-vendor show will be far more useful and fits in nicely with what Webdu offers in terms of an Adobe driven event. There is obviously an upside to also getting along portions of the MS .Net community and showing them the light in terms of what the Adobe product set can offer (Im sure the reverse applies in the MS camp) and may the best man(person if I'm being PC about it) win! Due to us taking a bit of time to organise ourselves around the sessions we're extending the early bird rates until the end of June but do book early as we do have limited spaces and have had a steady stream of sign ups (I'm a saleman but that's actually true;-) ). Apparently it's meant to be one of the best ski seasons on record this year so the option of hard,thin ice in the Blue Mountains or Free flowing powder in the Souther Alps may assist with the decision (told you I was a salesman)! http://www.webonthepiste.com/webonthepiste/agenda/agenda_home.cfm Cheers Grant http://www.webonthepiste.com Sponsored by www.straker.co.nz www.gruden.com.au www.adobe.com www.microsoft.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: + Important: Repent, Completely trust in God only and, Love Him with all of your heart.
I ran Adam's code from above and got the Null Pointers are another name for undefined values error. I'd say god was more of a CFC than a Struct - and one without a constructor at that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Java inner classes
yeah, sorry Adam my example earlier should have been a $ not : between the classes. On Apr 26, 8:15 pm, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, There's an old article here on inner classes;http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19580 Also I have seen syntax something like this, but I haven't ever tried it; cfobject type=JAVA action=Create name=xxx class=OuterThing$InnerThing Also, if you're interested I can provide you with a java wrapper class to create Lucene Fields as I've already been down that road. Cheers. On 4/26/07, Grant Straker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You do it the same way you do in Java cfset createobject(component,org.apache.lucene.document.Field:Index) I pretty sure you'll still have some problems though as CF won't recognise the static value of the Field. My experience is that with Lucene 2 you need to write a complete java wrapper and not try and do it all in CF. Grant On Apr 26, 5:34 am, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, Actually a good point, but as they are not inner classes and are constructors / methods have you tried myClass.Field(arg1); myClass.Field(arg1,arg2); ?? On 4/26/07, Adam Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day How does one - in CF - refer to an inner class (ClassFoo.Bar) of a given class (ClassFoo), when the constructor of ClassFoo takes an argument of type ClassFoo.Bar? For example the first, third,fourth and fifth constructors shown here: http://tinyurl.com/hfg9s(org.apache.lucene.document.Field). Any ideas? -- Adam (PS: first posted to the Adobe CF forums:http://tinyurl.com/2r3w84) -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] OT: oracle 8i
anyone know where i can get a working copy of oracle 8i? if someone has original install cds i have no problem paying and get them couriered. i've got this nightmare project where i'm migrating a sql server 2000 db to ora8i, and my dev environment is ora10g. nuts. oh and i don't have direct access to the 8i instances either - i have to submit the sql scripts and hope that they work. so i'm wondering if someone has 8i that i can setup on my DE and do some real debugging. any solutions offered are appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT:Adobe Flex let me down
i agree, learning actionscript was like that. adobe/mm just don't do good developer cultivation. On 27/04/07, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I walked into worked today with everyone around me saying did you hear? Flex has been open- sourced. My imediate thoughts was that's interesting. But honestly it won't make me continue with flex. I started a project about 2 months ago which was only going to take a few weeks. Without going into a massive post about the project we found a need to try out some Flex. I was Whoa stoked. We started off very small a simple form posting to a database. My background is mainly CF so I tackled Flex like a CF programmer would. It's sad to say that I totally under estimated the complexity of programming Flex. Now guys/gals, this page was the most BASIC page you could imagine. Where I felt Adobe let me down was the fact that all their PR explained how easy it was to pick up the Flex language. What they don't tell you is that you REALLY need to know OO and you REALLY need to have a good framework. The lack of examples in which I personally learn from is so limited that it left me shell shocked. When I learned ColdFusion it was SO much easier. Ben Forta is my friend! And of course this list bailed me out a number of times. Adobe are constantly pushing the fact that 9x% use flash player and video format is taking off. Then how come Adobe doesn't utlise this and create tutorials on how to use their products!? The company I work for is Huge and the amount of time that I wasted trying to achieve the most basic results I could have done 10 times quicker in ColdFusion AND .NET twice over. The sad fact of the matter is I will never recommend Flex to any programmer or company that I deal with again. So I hope that making Flex open-source will help bridge the massive learning curve that developers will encounter. Flex had so much potential and that I personally feel its fallin flat on its vector based face. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Java inner classes
You do it the same way you do in Java cfset createobject(component,org.apache.lucene.document.Field:Index) I pretty sure you'll still have some problems though as CF won't recognise the static value of the Field. My experience is that with Lucene 2 you need to write a complete java wrapper and not try and do it all in CF. Grant On Apr 26, 5:34 am, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, Actually a good point, but as they are not inner classes and are constructors / methods have you tried myClass.Field(arg1); myClass.Field(arg1,arg2); ?? On 4/26/07, Adam Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day How does one - in CF - refer to an inner class (ClassFoo.Bar) of a given class (ClassFoo), when the constructor of ClassFoo takes an argument of type ClassFoo.Bar? For example the first, third,fourth and fifth constructors shown here: http://tinyurl.com/hfg9s(org.apache.lucene.document.Field). Any ideas? -- Adam (PS: first posted to the Adobe CF forums:http://tinyurl.com/2r3w84) -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: TinyMCE HTML Editor
We use it extensively and having trailed and tested a lot of different WYSIWYG editors find it the best one out there. We have many 1000's of end users (as in contributors/editors) using our CMS and find that with TinyMCE the number of support / end user issues decreases significantly. One of the big factors in this is that the table support in Tiny is excellent. You can also write your own plugins and easily extend it. Grant On Apr 12, 8:21 pm, Justin Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 12, 4:27 pm, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using this editor for their applications? I'm only using it with FarCry, I haven't used it with a custom built app before. And regarding your other thread, I don't have a file upload plugin for TinyMCE as FarCry has it's own file upload tools. Can't help much, sorry :P -- Justinhttp://www.madfellas.com/blog --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: TinyMCE HTML Editor
We have one but is customised for our CMS so wont really port. On Apr 13, 12:11 pm, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Do you guys have a FileManager plugin for TinyMCE I could use? Steve-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Straker Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 5:40 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: TinyMCE HTML Editor We use it extensively and having trailed and tested a lot of different WYSIWYG editors find it the best one out there. We have many 1000's of end users (as in contributors/editors) using our CMS and find that with TinyMCE the number of support / end user issues decreases significantly. One of the big factors in this is that the table support in Tiny is excellent. You can also write your own plugins and easily extend it. Grant On Apr 12, 8:21 pm, Justin Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 12, 4:27 pm, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using this editor for their applications? I'm only using it with FarCry, I haven't used it with a custom built app before. And regarding your other thread, I don't have a file upload plugin for TinyMCE as FarCry has it's own file upload tools. Can't help much, sorry :P -- Justinhttp://www.madfellas.com/blog --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Affordable Flex Training
Hi Darren, ZoomFlex is an application that brings together server and client side development when building Flex applications. It includes a comprehensive client side Flex framewok as well as a server-side object framework. It does cost and also requires ColdFusion (which we package in through our OEM agreement with Adobe). The training itself is 95% generic Flex training and we cover off other Flex frameworks such as Cairngorm in equal measure. The last module of the course is to build a Flex store using ZoomFlex but the problems you will overcome in building the store and methods used will be generic for any Flex application. Clearly we see the training as a opportunity to showcase some of the ZoomFlex features but whether someone who attends the course decides to use our product or use the skills they get on the course to roll their own is up to them. We have spent a huge amount of time and resources in trying to simplify Flex development and the course is all about teaching others some of the issues we have come across and how to solve them. If you have played with Flex, maybe built some small apps and want to get to the next level then the course is for you, and I am sure will save attendees a lot of pain going forward and give them a lot of shortcuts for very little cost. Cheers Grant On Apr 4, 7:35 pm, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Grant I'm sorry, but I'm not entirely up on what ZoomFlex is, does and costs. Is this training of use if, for some reason, you choose not to implement the ZoomFlex framework? (ie is it generic Flex training or specifically ZoomFlex training?) Are there any costs associated with using this framework? Thanks Darren --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Web on the Piste Registration open
Hi All, We are now taking registrations for Web on the Piste through the site www.webonthepiste.com. It only cost AU $395 (NZ $450) on the earlybird pricing plan and we are trying to package in a day or two complementary ski pass into the price but will keep you posted on that. The conference is going to be very focused on RIA / web 2.0 technology and we running both Developer/Design and Business streams so you can learn the latest technologies being used to build RIA/Web 2.0 sites as well as how they changing the market and generating new business opportunities. There is an awesome list of speakers/presenters and a few more to be announced and this conference is very much about having a quality experience. Check out Air New Zealand's www.grabaseat.co.nz site on a weekly basis as it has specials on flights to and from NZ. Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Affordable Flex Training
I've had a quick catch up with Indy and we could do 26/27th April in Brisbane for Flex training with the same details as the Sydney course. Can you email me off list if you are interested and I'll see if we can get something sorted. Cheers Grant On Apr 5, 2:30 pm, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put my hands up for Brisbane... a lovely city ; ) (That's an 'interested' hand, though, not a 'commited' hand).Allan Browning wrote: Getting away from the certificate discussion, is there any show of hands from Brisbane that would be interested in the flex training. My hand is up. Having come from primarily an ASP background with some self taught coldfusion I am interested in learning a framework that will help me deliver clear reuseable code. The learning curve is steep and I need some help. Allan On Apr 4, 11:29 pm, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offense and it sounds anti-Adobe but Certifications aren't that exciting these days, Macromedia ones were kind of worthwhile but bit fragmented nowdays (sorry). I'd disagree strongly. every job I've gotten since my certification, my certification has been brought up by the employer. they *many* do notice it. I personally wouldn't think just cos someone has a cert they are good, but I would see it as an example of there initiative. Also if your resume goes to a recruiter who knows nothing about CF and the recruiter gets 10 resumes and 2 of them are MM/Adobe CF certified, odds are those 2 will get placed to the top of the list. I remember when I sat the brain bench exam (cost me $20) a few other devs I knew laughed at me and said it was worthless, it was that certificate and that certificate solely that enabled my employer to find me and relocate me to the other side of the world all expenses paid, so that $20USD paid for it's self quite quick. certs are just pieces of paper but different employers view them in different ways, so you can never have to much paper if ya ask me. well to be technical there should be no paper involved all evidence of certification should be stored on solar powered servers :P M@ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Affordable Flex Training
Hi All, Many people we meet at Webdu talked to us about Flex training in general and also learning a bit more about ZoomFlex . Due to the demand we have put together a low cost Flex training course to be held in Sydney on the 23-24 April. At only $295 the course is an absolute bargin for those of you looking to upskill in Flex. Course Agenda: The course is designed for developers who have had some exposure to Flex and understand the basics but want to get to the next level. At the end of the course attendees will build a working e-commerce Flex store using the ZoomFlex framework. Day 1 * Understanding the Flex paradigm * Flex Frameworks and why you need them (Covers MVC,Cairgorm and ZoomFlex) * Best practice CFC architecture * Error handling and debugging * Building for performance Day 2 * Making Flex applications SEO friendly * Securing Flex applications * Flex tips and tricks * Building a Flex e-commerce store The Tutor Senior Shado developer and course presenter Indy Nagpal has conducted training on different versions of ColdFusion since 1999 and is Adobe certified to teach Flex as well as Fast Track and Advanced ColdFusion courses. Indy was formerly a teacher of web programming at Humber College, Toronto and has conducted numerous training events for Straker Interactive. * Cost: : $295+GST * Duration: 2 Days * Venue: Sydney CBD - TBC * Date: 23-24th April 2007 Limited to 20 participants Lunch Provided You can book on the course here http://www.straker.co.nz/events/events/2007/en/sydney-2-day-flex-training--course.cfm Cheers Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Affordable Flex Training
It won't come with any Adobe certification but we will have our own certificate to hand out at the end. We have been working with and training Flex since Flex 1.0, so feel we know enough about it to get out a certificate with some meaning. Grant On Apr 4, 4:12 pm, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: because you (your company) have been a respected Macromedia Alliance partner for a while now, does this training come with any recognition/magic pieces of paper/certification? On 4/4/07, Grant Straker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, if people are interested. We have a number of clients in Queensland so Brisbane is certainly an option as is Melbourne. I'll have a chat with the guys and see if we can get some provisional dates for both locations and see if we have enough interest to run one. It is being offered in Auckland on the 17-18th April for those interested. http://www.straker.co.nz/shadozoom//events/events/2007/en/auckland-2-... Grant On Apr 4, 3:41 pm, KNOTT, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant, Can this course be offered in other locatons. Brian-Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Straker Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2007 1:36 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Affordable Flex Training Hi All, Many people we meet at Webdu talked to us about Flex training in general and also learning a bit more about ZoomFlex . Due to the demand we have put together a low cost Flex training course to be held in Sydney on the 23-24 April. At only $295 the course is an absolute bargin for those of you looking to upskill in Flex. Course Agenda: The course is designed for developers who have had some exposure to Flex and understand the basics but want to get to the next level. At the end of the course attendees will build a working e-commerce Flex store using the ZoomFlex framework. Day 1 * Understanding the Flex paradigm * Flex Frameworks and why you need them (Covers MVC,Cairgorm and ZoomFlex) * Best practice CFC architecture * Error handling and debugging * Building for performance Day 2 * Making Flex applications SEO friendly * Securing Flex applications * Flex tips and tricks * Building a Flex e-commerce store The Tutor Senior Shado developer and course presenter Indy Nagpal has conducted training on different versions of ColdFusion since 1999 and is Adobe certified to teach Flex as well as Fast Track and Advanced ColdFusion courses. Indy was formerly a teacher of web programming at Humber College, Toronto and has conducted numerous training events for Straker Interactive. * Cost: : $295+GST * Duration: 2 Days * Venue: Sydney CBD - TBC * Date: 23-24th April 2007 Limited to 20 participants Lunch Provided You can book on the course here http://www.straker.co.nz/events/events/2007/en/sydney-2-day-flex-trainin g--course.cfm Cheers Grant --- This e-mail is sent by Suncorp-Metway Limited ABN 66 010 831 722 or one of its related entities Suncorp. Suncorp may be contacted at Level 18, 36 Wickham Terrace, Brisbane or on 13 11 55 or at suncorp.com.au. The content of this e-mail is the view of the sender or stated author and does not necessarily reflect the view of Suncorp. The content, including attachments, is a confidential communication between Suncorp and the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this e-mail, including attachments, is unauthorised and expressly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and delete the e-mail and any attachments from your system. If this e-mail constitutes a commercial message of a type that you no longer wish to receive please reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: RIA Conference announcement , Queenstown NZ
Aw sweet I'm booked for a snow holiday in Qtown during this... I'll be there! On 12/03/07, Grant Straker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Just to let you all know Straker are running a conference Web on the Piste, which will based on Rich Internet technologies at Queenstown in late August (incidentally the best week for lots of snow on the slopes) for anyone interested. The idea is that it is 6 months between WebDU's and will catch newly released products such as Apollo and CF8 (thinking they might be released by then) and give everyone a chance to network in an awesome location. The aim is to cover Flex, Apollo, AJAX, SPRY and all the various back end systems including CF, .Net, PHP etc. The conference is for designers, developers and anyone looking at utilizing RI technologies in their applications, it has an Adobe base but we will try and cover a wide range of RI and back end solutions. We are bringing down a few guests from the US who have been very active in implementing RI solutions so we can learn from them as well as a number of well known regional speakers. Sessions will be a couple of hours long and attendees will need to bring a laptop to a lot of the sessions as they will be interactive learning sessions so that you can interact and learn from the presenters. It's currently a 2 day conf but may push out to 3 if people are interested in more sessions. The schedule and topics are still in development but should be finalised in the next month or two. If anyone is interested in being a speaker or a sponsor then let me know. Here's the URL www.webonthepiste.com Cheers Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
I actually think that it is a reasonably brave move on the part MS. By trying to engage the Adobe community they are showing it a lot of respect (normally when you're ignored it caus nobody cares 'bout ya) which is not something we have seen in the past. Outside of some initial reservations about the gray line around when something becomes a sales pitch or not and the forum for presenting them, I do see some benefits from the MS interactions. For me it means when some people (IT people who argue that its not MS so we wont use it) ask about CF or Flex or Adobe we can at least point them to the fact that MS believe the technology to be really good and have a lot of synergy with .Net etc., so much so they even hold the usergroups meetings might have some value. We hold the NZ usergroup meetings in our offices and if we tried to push our products on anyone attending we wouldn't get too many the next time and I'm sure MS recognise this and would act accordingly. GS On Mar 13, 4:28 pm, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the agenda is to push competing products then I think it's not appropriate and Adobe would be silly to allow this. Hold on - Adobe don't run the user groups so they are not really in any position to allow or disallow anything. Gruden is an Abobe partner, but I still think that Scott's suggestion *in this case* has merit and should be appreciated. If MS turned this CFUG meeting into a MSathon then I don't think anyone would go back. But if they just provide the facilities - good for them. If they get some good will out of it - so what. In Sydney Red Square, one of our competitors, used to provide the venue for the CFUG - I had nothing but respect for them doing this. Daemon, another competitor ran CFAussie and a number of other lists for years. I imagine they were doing this stuff for two reasons - to promote their businesses and to help foster the community. Good for them - I respect their motives and which that I had more time and energy to do similar. At the end of the day the community won - and that's a good thing. As for the argument that MS might learn something at the meeting and get some unfair commercial advantage - it's a public meeting. Anyone can go no matter where it is held. Despite Barry's gushing words at the start of this thread you're not about to hear Adobe's deepest darkest secrets at this meeting. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltdhttp://www.gruden.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] OT: site downloading
Hi All What tools are you guys using recommend for downloading entire sites from the web? The IE and FF 'save as...' just isn't cutting it. TIA Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] RIA Conference announcement , Queenstown NZ
Hi All, Just to let you all know Straker are running a conference Web on the Piste, which will based on Rich Internet technologies at Queenstown in late August (incidentally the best week for lots of snow on the slopes) for anyone interested. The idea is that it is 6 months between WebDU's and will catch newly released products such as Apollo and CF8 (thinking they might be released by then) and give everyone a chance to network in an awesome location. The aim is to cover Flex, Apollo, AJAX, SPRY and all the various back end systems including CF, .Net, PHP etc. The conference is for designers, developers and anyone looking at utilizing RI technologies in their applications, it has an Adobe base but we will try and cover a wide range of RI and back end solutions. We are bringing down a few guests from the US who have been very active in implementing RI solutions so we can learn from them as well as a number of well known regional speakers. Sessions will be a couple of hours long and attendees will need to bring a laptop to a lot of the sessions as they will be interactive learning sessions so that you can interact and learn from the presenters. It's currently a 2 day conf but may push out to 3 if people are interested in more sessions. The schedule and topics are still in development but should be finalised in the next month or two. If anyone is interested in being a speaker or a sponsor then let me know. Here's the URL www.webonthepiste.com Cheers Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webdu birds of a feather
I'm currently at the 360Flex conference in San Jose and have to say the Apollo stuff I have seen here is awesome. Ted Patrick is coming to WebDU so maybe worth getting him to demo some of the Apollo stuff at the BOF if he's available. On Mar 8, 12:51 pm, Andrew Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flex is def. in the Apollo mix... On 08/03/07, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to add flex into the mix i'm in as well. oh yeah, Apollo, Apollo, Apollo ;) Bjorn On 08/03/2007, at 10:01 AM, Mark Mandel wrote: If anyone wants to talk OO or anything related to that nature I'm up for it (the chatting, or the organising) That is, if people want to. Mark On 3/8/07, Andrew Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, Apollo Developers, developers, developers... On 08/03/07, Nathan Drury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great idea Andrew. Chant with me now . Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, Apollo Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.compoundtheory.com -- --- Andrew Mullerhttp://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Translation services
Etranslate - www.etranslate.com.au We have used them on several projects and they are very competitive on pricing. On Feb 5, 1:29 pm, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angus, We do this regularly (too regularly) we have tried several; including SBS and overseas ones, but now use and strongly recommend. CTC www.ctc.com.auhttp://www.ctc.com.au/ They also have offices in both Melbourne Sydney which is good for us. If you want more specifics, contact me off list. Regards Dale Fraser _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angus Johnson Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 11:18 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] OT: Translation services Hi Guys, Has anyone had any dealings with a company that specialises in translation services? I need to to translate some content and UI resource bundles into a bunch of European languages as well as Chinese. I'm looking for a one stop shop that will do the lot with QA handled by them. Not looking for individuals to do the work, I need the complete package. I have googled a few but hoping for a personal recommendation. Thanks Angus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
Scott, I'm sure we can host a salesman anonymous meeting at WebDU and you can join the group and say Hi, My name is Scott... and I'm a salesman once you've done it you'll feel much better I'm sure. Afterwards you can get out your diamond plated company credit card and we will give you free rein to tell us the wonders of MS whilst it stays on the bar - I'll be good to give you hours and hours of attentive listening ;-) Grant On Jan 30, 9:12 pm, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, the old MS buys Adobe rumour. I'm no legal eagle, but I'd wager that the Department Of Justice and the Consent Decree would have a thing or two to say about that idea, so fear not Peter :0 On 1/30/07, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was for a time concerned about Microsoft acquiring Macromedia (MM). By then MM had done some smart things with Flash, moved CF to the J2EE platform, etc. But Microsoft have, even since Allaire days, been if not a competitor then at least MM was an acquisition target. All of us old-timers remember the threat year after year (Microsoft acquires Allaire/MM etc). I've been with Allaire, MM and now Adobe for over 11.5 years now (or close enough to it). The Adobe acquisition came out of the blue. And I hated the idea. Am still not convinced (entirely). MM made great guns in involving the developer and end-user community in the pushing forward of the new tech. So far Adobe (with a lot of MM employees) are doing OK. I mean look at the LABS site - a great initiative started by MM. Microsoft is more jam it down your throat. Take it or leave it. Dreamweaver 8 and FlexBuilder 2 are now my primary IDE's. Microsoft's effort take up too much space, too much OS control, and too damn slow. I have enormous respect for ScottyB, yes he is now employed by the enemy, but as far as pushing the conversation to a degree that things will actually happen - best job ever. Microsoft and Adobe are now true competitors in almost every space bar the OS (operating system). Both companies employ some of the smartest and dedicated people on the planet. However they should remain competitors. My heart would stop beating if M$ ever acquired Adobe. If that happens - find a buyer for ColdFusion alone (not easy I realise). -- Regards, Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
Mike, I am a salesman and totally believe in sales pitches - how else would I sell my own products. As I general rule sales people don't trawl lists pushing products, if this is a standard practice it would save me a lot of marketing money, if you're saying that community lists are happy for this to happen then I'm out of touch and need to reassess our marketing strategy. In my experience people generally react badly to this strategy but maybe I'm not bold enough and don't have a big enough brand to pull it off. I don't hate Microsoft at all and use their products extensively,ultimately they are a one platform product which means we primarily use the Adobe product set as we need to support multiple clients / server platforms. ( I won't be drawn into a MS v Adobe thread as this would see Scotts KPI's sky rocket I'm sure). Scott, Actually, its more about Technology Adoption LifeCycle then awareness. I'd prefer you do your homework some more on what Evangelists do to be honest :) (It took me a while to get my head around it). I'm sorry but the Technology Adoption LifeCycle is all about selling the next generation of your product, nothing more , nothing less - Sales,Sales and more Sales!!!. Evangelist is a fancy word for a technical sales person and it makes people coming from a technology background into sales feel better about it. There are I'm sure, a lot of people on this list who need to interact with MS technologies and that is one of the key reasons for adding better .Net support to CF8 as it was based on community feedback. When Straker, as a small company based on the bottom of the planet want to market to developers to PAY for advertising on CF/Felx sites and forums, I'm sure MS with their $$ budgets could advertise directly to developers rather than starting a trend where by every vendor out their will now be turning technical lists into mass marketing tools. I actually think Daemon should look at offering sponsorship on the list to make things clear. Grant On Jan 30, 4:56 am, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/29/07, Matt Voerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, I just thought i'd chuck in my 2 cents worth here...Only 2c's? :P For a start, I don't think this is about Microsoft bashing. I think the main issue here is, that whilst i'm sure Scott has the best of (personal) intentions in educating the masses about the best tools for the job'. At the end of the day (or is that sales chain) what he's ultimately offering, amounts to nothing more than a Microsoft sales pitch (targeted towards Adobe customers (hence it appearing in this CFThink being the keyword. I again draw you back to the original post, whereby I am asking (permission based marketing if you will) whether anyone on the list be interested in getting an expansion on how some of the Microsoft products maybe be of interest to the CF developer here. I've gotten quite a lot of responses as being yes. Its not a pitch, its a question. I clearly stated my intent, reason and proposed outcome in a transparent manner. Keep it context is all I ask, and so far both you and Grant haven't :) (which I can understand how easy it can be to do so, but in reality you're kind of putting words and assumptions on my behalf without actually consulting me first before hand - so its kind of unfair?) I also clearly stated its a show tell, which is the exact same format as what we are all used to with existing User Group Presentations (they aren't sales pitches are they? so what gives, and don't play the MSFTE card as its getting old). forum)). Having said that (Mike), I don't think anyone is against hearing sales pitches per se' - but lets be up front about them. Don't wrap them up in rhetoric about 'best tool for the job' or 'show and tell' sessions.You're entitled to your opinion, but I wouldn't assume its right :). It is a show and tell, its not a sales pitch. There is no call to action post its session. It's here is the tools, this is what they can do, heres an example of some code, any questions? Pretty much the same format given in again, most User Groups we have all attended monthly? (So do you feel Apollo presentations are sales pitches or informative sessions? Does that also mean Adobe must also abide by the same rules? what are the rules? Point is you're playing the MSFTE card again stating the above. If you harbour distrust towards the company thats cool, sorry to hear that, but it would be a personal issue outside of the context of this discussion). Scott also mentions that he couldn't care one way or another if we bought into what he's talking about - but i'd hazard a guess his employer definitely does! And i'm sorry to be the one to break the news to you mate, but Microsoft didn't employ you for your whit, charm and good looks ;-) Your official mandate as Microsoft Developer Evangelist is to 'increase product awareness (primarily
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
I'm with Haikal. I'm currently writing my own js implementation of document.createElement() since the company that Scott wrote 'has a responsibility to develop technology that is based on commonly used standards' didn't seem to place much importance on adding NAMED elements to generated form elements. FFS. I have no problem with bashing microsoft while they continue to push out buggy sh1tware and implement their own set of halfa55ed standards. I know it's off topic but honestly I've had enough and I know there are MS ears out there. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
Mike, Product evangelist is basically a fancy name for technical sales person, I've never meet an Adobe evangelist who wasn't trying to sell me something and I'm sure Microsoft evangelists are the same. I guess my issue is that reading when Scott is saying (I have no issues with Scott as a person, respect his technical ability and have known him several years) he is not interested in selling anything, has no sales bent and is impartial on technology I don't think this is the case. For example Scott says it's not a sales pitch but will have a pre- sales team on hand, off course it's a sales pitch!. Even if Scott is not directly measured on sales he will be part of a team that is and the cost of the events will, for sure be coming from a sales and marketing budget. He is also measured for getting awareness of xyz products so the more he posts links and info on this to the mailing list the more he is hitting his KPI's. I guess my issue is that Scott is in a technical sales role and is on the list trying his hardest to appear as an impartial technologist which he is not, he gave up that right when he joined Microsoft, in the same way that I gave up being impartial to CF and Flex when we build our products on those platforms. As I said, I have no problem with Scott or with Microsoft (around 60% of our clients deploy that that platform and half our internal servers run the OS) but I do have an issues with the marketing technique as if we tried it (posting about our technology on a competitors community list) we would get hammered for it. Grant On Jan 29, 2:16 pm, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant, we often get led off into concerns that arent anything to do with us. If you work for Adobe, and your job is to promote ColdFusion over competing products, then you would be watching anything Microsoft does and would want to one-up them whenever you can. Great. That's now the capitalist system works, and it encourages innovation. For the vast majority of us on this list however, we DON'T work for Adobe, we work as web developers for a whole variety of organisations, or for ourselves, and it's our job as developers to learn as much as possible about the things available to us to do our job better. We shouldn't get blinded by Adobe's goals. If Scott wants to give us some information about what Micosoft has to offer, I say that's a terrific thing. He has good experience of ColdFusion and could put a perspective on it that few others would or could. Grant, what if Scott could tell you about some little-known aspect of a Microsoft product that could revolutionise your development life? You'd be a mug not to listen, just because it might offend Adobe? They're big grown up boys now, they can look after themselves. It's our job to get ourselves across as many of the internet disciplines as possible. Count me in Scott. Sounds like a bloody good thing to me! Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworkshttp://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
Scott, Given your connections the MS Network and to prove your independence on this matter would it not make sense to do a joint show and tell and to get some MS development companies along and we show them what Flex and CF can do for them whilst you show the .Net stuff? presumably if there is real value in a .Net / CF partnership then it would also add value to them. Whilst some CF guys are very much in one camp it would be fair to say I have meet a great many of MS developers who strongly believe it's the only technology out there and maybe it would be good to open their eyes to the possibilities and benefits of the Adobe product set? As you say, it wouldn't be a sales pitch but a show and tell that doesn't map technologies. It would be really interesting to see hear what your team thinks of this idea. Grant On Jan 25, 11:33 pm, Allan Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, As with Dale, always willing to look at what else it out there. If I didn't try new thing how would I have made it to play(work) with CF. Allan Browninghttp://www.inov8design.com.au On Jan 25, 8:05 pm, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, Regards Dale Fraser _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M@ Bourke Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 8:58 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love. Think the Matt was meant to be Scott (just incase anyone was confused) On 1/25/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, If you do something at the VIC UG I'll come, always interested in looking at new technologies. Regards Dale Fraser _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M@ Bourke Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 8:52 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love. Adobe do sales pitches for there other products at CF user groups If it was simply titled how to move from CF to Dot net it would be a bit whacked even though thats probably there secret agenda lol if it's how to use there new technologies with CF I think it would (could) be a good thing for CF devs to attend. M@ On 1/25/07, Andrew Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry Scott but how is this not a sales pitch, this is what you were hired by Microsoft to do... On 25/01/07, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Kids, Since the Ted vs Barnes blog thing, I've been getting a lot of emails from CF`ers of old, who are looking to broaden their horizons somewhat. So with that in mind, I thought It may be worthwhile to float an idea past you all and see if it's got legs (since Microsoft haven't been invited to WebDU, this maybe an alternative approach). I'm thinking of doing a bit of a national tour (need to work out how I can hide that in terms of expense report(s) heh) but, I'm willing to showcase some of the new Microsoft goodness that will compliment the average Coldfusion Developer out there (so make sure its relevant to you guys and not try and turn you into hardcore ASP.NET developers overnight), while at the same time answer any questions you might have and debunk a myth or two. Essentially, bring some context back to the conversation that may compliment the average CF Developer out there as I know it's somewhat confusing as to how all the Microsoft pieces fit and whether or not they are relevant. Given that Coldfusion 8, is going to have native .NET support(http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/10/24/ColdFusion-Net-Integ... ) (cfObject type=.NET is freakin sexy), this could also be an advantage to folks who have to play with both .NET and JAVA daily. (So bring an open mind). I promise, it's not a sales pitch, but a show tell - that doesn't involve mapping technology or flicker - that i'll promise ;) Let me know if you're keen (either here or offline, if you fear being labled a MS Fanboi) and I'll organise some of the MS HQ's (free beer + pizza) and see if i can bust open the schwag basement and get some give-aways in the room. It's likely to happen various times in the next two months (Sydney + BNE in March, and will see if I can find an excuse to be in Melbourne around then, but won't be in Perth until June - unless I can find another excuse before hand). I'll also ping some of the other of the MS Team to come along aswell. It's just an idea at this point, so let me know (seriously) if folks would be keen. (scbarnes at microsoft.com) -- Regards, Scott Barnes Developer Evangelist, Microsoft.-- --- Andrew Mullerhttp://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed
[cfaussie] Re: ms-access table definitions
This gets you all the tables cfquery name=qResult datasource=#arguments.dsn# SELECT Name FROM MSysObjects WHERE Type = 1 AND LEFT(Name, 4) 'MSys'; /cfquery You can use the getmetadata() function in cf to get all the fields (this works for any db) cfquery name=qDBFields datasource=#arguments.dsn# SELECT * FROM #arguments.table# Where 1=2 /cfquery cfset stMetadata = getMetaData(qDBFields) You also need to setup permissions inside access to allow you to read the table info. 1. open the database in Microsoft Access. 2. Go to Tools Options View tab Check the box against System Objects to make system objects visible. 3.Go to Tools Security User and Group Permissions. Select MSysObjects in the Object Name box. Assign Read, Modify and Administer permissions to the user account that is used as part of the ColdFusion DSN setting (usually this is Admin). Save the changes. Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: (shakes fist at) adobe.com
Mayor Quimby: You people are nothing but a pack of fickle mush-heads. Springfieldian #1: Hey, he's right! Springfieldian #2: Give us hell, Quimby! Crowd: Yaa! On 12/8/06, Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's one of my gripes with the 'new' web. People invent all sorts of new widgets like custom scrollbars and back buttons.. and they don't work with the tools we're used to using, such as my scroll wheel and back/next buttons on my mouse. I don't have time to try and work out how this particular designer has decided I should navigate their site. Maybe on a gaming or entertainment site, certainly not on a site I expect to use as a reference for my job. Not to take anything away from the developer of that site, as it looks like a lot of work has gone into it for a free resource. Its just that one little gripe is enough for me not to use that site at all. -- *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Shane Farmer *Sent:* Thursday, 7 December 2006 7:11 PM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: (shakes fist at) adobe.com Ryan, There is a little back link () at the bottom of the pages I have seen so far Shane On 12/7/06, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aggressive young pup aren't you ;) hehe On 12/7/06, Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.cfquickdocs.com Nice he thought as he started using it. Grrr he thought when the back button doesn't work. (shakes fist at) Web 2.0 Sorry, I'm in a ranting mood today. -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT: sql datatypes
yeah cool. thanks heaps for the info adam. here's my real question: if i'm storing standard utf-8 at 8 bytes per char, is varchar2(2000) in the 'char sematics' larger that varchar2(2000) in bytes? (since 8 * 2000 is like, way bigger than 2000 bytes...) or am i just confused, way off base and a little bit tooo drunk to be asking questions like this? G On 12/6/06, Adam Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A byte is a standard length - almost always eight bits - which can store 256 possible values. I suspect that's the part you already knew ;-) A character is often one byte in size (ASCII, for example... well: strictly speaking that's only seven bits, but you get my drift); but depending on the encoding scheme in use, could be two, three or more bytes long. In Unicode's UTF naming standard, the number at the end (UTF-8, UTF-16, etc) denotes how many BITS each character uses. Make sense? -- Adam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Find and remove a trailing slash from a path - brain fade time
if we were on expertsexchange http://www.experts-exchange.com robin would get the points. On 12/6/06, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AH! That's the solution I was trying to recall. Thanks Robin. But I do think that Andrew's java answer was really cool. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 12/6/06, Robin Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: path = reReplace(path,/$,); Robin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT: sql datatypes
Thanks heaps Adam. Cleared it up perfectly. On 12/7/06, Adam Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're just confused, although this is not helped by me typing faster than I was thinking, in my descriptions of the bit-usage of UTF-8, etc (sorry, I'm @ work so was only paying 50% attention to what I was typing). Better not to rely on me in this case, but to read this lot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_Transformation_Format Anyway, to answer your question: If you use bytes and specify varchar2(2000), you'll get 2000 bytes of storage space for each row in that column. That's obvious. If you use chars and specify varchar2(2000), you'll get 2000x [whatever the size of the char could be, for the given encoding you're using for that column]. If it's a 4-byte character encoding, the varchar2(2000) will be 8000 BYTES long (4x2000). So if you use chars and say 2000, pls: you can definitely fit 2000 characters in there. If you specify 2000 bytes... you'll be able to fit 2000 bytes worth of characters, which given a UTF-8 character can be 1-4 bytes each, will quite possibly be fewer than 2000 chars. Basically the byte semantics comes from back in the day when we only ever thought about english-language characters, which fitted nicely into 7 bits, so one byte = one char worked nicely. Now that we deal with all sorts of different alphabets, the space needed to store a character also varies, so trying to use a byte as a character unit doesn't make sense, hence the character-based semantics. I'd be more inclined to use characters than bytes. -- Adam -- Adam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] SOT: sql datatypes
Hi The Oracle documentation for Datatypes show varchar2 as: VARCHAR2(size [BYTE | CHAR]) and they go on to say: BYTE indicates that the column will have byte length semantics; CHAR indicates that the column will have character semantics. Ummm... anybody got a dumbed-down version of what that means? What's the distinction? Thanks Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Rich text editor for ColdFusion - recomendations
I second the vote for FCK On 11/28/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes http://sourceforge.net/projects/fckeditor/ Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2006 2:48 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Rich text editor for ColdFusion - recomendations Does it support image upload? (png/gif/jpg) On 28/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FCKEditor is free and better than activedit. On Mon Nov 27 19:28 , 'ACTCFUG' sent: I have recently opted to release the source code for www.actcfug.com to the community - as a fast track to a fully functional User Group web site that is not written in PHP. Written using Fusebox it is quite powerful and includes roles based security. Unfortunately for me I mainly use a product called ActiveEdit (version 4.x) - a fine rich text editor that works amazingly well with ColdFusion, eg: width=800 height=450 upload=1 breakonenter=true alloweditsource=yes buttoncolor=cdcdcd image=true toolbar=cut,copy,paste,|,redo,undo,|,outdent,indent,|,justifyleft,justifyce nter,justifyright,bullets,numbers,|,table,image,hyperlink,||,find,help,speci alchars,|,quickformat,bold,italic,underline,showdetails,hr tabview=yes imagepath=#Request.ActiveEditImagePath# imageurl=#Request.ActiveEditImageURL# baseurl=#Request.ApplicationURL# stylesheet=#Request.ApplicationURL#/style.css appletlicense=#Request.ActiveEditLicence# Of course I am not at liberty to distribute ActivEdit so any suggestions for a similar open source alternative would be welcome. Also the image upload facility recently broke for no reason - argh. Note that the version would need to be re-distributed under a similar open source arrangement so I would more than likely require the developers permission to include it. It would seem farcical to return to a straight TEXTAREA control but am willing to do that if an alternative is not available. the ColdUserGroup code at this stage requires at least ColdFusion 7.x (as I use Flash forms a bit) but that could be adjusted. It will at least require Microsoft SQL Server 2000+, I will consider an Access version but no serious developer would contemplate that surely. However www.actcfug.com and its code base could be better. Written quickly but functional I would like to see it evolve, say more use of CFC's, better support for member content submission. The official site will be listed at www.riaforge.com and I encourage all CF developers to contribute. Some bits, like the Google Calendar (cool) will be stripped out but placeholder text included for users to add their own functionality. Flex 2 support is an obvious choice but I have found documentation for Flex 2/CF severely lacking so far - especially in a hosted environment - and feel my Flex 2 skills aren't quite ready for that yet. An O'Reilly book is on the way - next year I also use Flash forms a bit - but good XML forms are a viable alternative until their performance is on par with Flex 2. Kind regards, PT Msg sent via @Mail v4 - http://atmail.com/ -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions Manager, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] cf developer edition
Hi Does anyone know if the developer edition of CF server is immediately IP-restricted or do the restrictions kick after 30 days? For additional points (if it applies)- didn't the server used to have 30 days full functionality and if so, when did they change (what ver.)to the immediate restrictions? Thanks Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] jexcelapi
Hi Anybody got a cfc wrapper for jexcelapi that they'd care to share? tia Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Getting a NT user's name
if they're already logged in the username and domain should bein the cgi scope - remote_user or auth_user. you may need to turn anonymous access off in the server settings so that the value is passed through to the server... hth On 10/24/06, Tom MacKean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using cfNTauthenticate I can get a user to log in and check that they are part of the domain. But if they are already logged onto thenetwork and are browsing the page from a logged on machine,is it possible to collect the user name without making them log in? i.e. Can CF find out which NT user is viewing the page or do I have to get them to log in? Hope this is clear enough. Tom -- IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is confidential privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons with low self-esteem, no sense of humor or irrational religious beliefs. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is not authorized (either explicitly or implicitly) and constitutes an irritating social fauxpas. No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the mutt next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Isn't Robin a girl?
Perhaps Robin you could put up a photo of Pam too... for all us single devs... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Maximum number of simultaneous requests
8 is too low, a default recommendation would be 25 per processor - so 50 if a dual CPU machine. This setting is really something that needs to be tuned on larger sites and relates to the way your site works and the power of your machine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: datepicker
that's a handy site, however i'm after a datepicker not a calendar...i've found this (http://www.frequency-decoder.com/2006/10/02/unobtrusive-date-picker-widgit-update/ )which gets good reports.On 10/10/06, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! Has one.Demos at http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/calendar/grant wrote: Anybody care to recommend a well-designed capable easy-to-deploy cross-browser _javascript_ datepicker? Thnks --Haikal SaadhApplications ProgrammerICT Resources, TALSSQUT Kelvin Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Google Codesearch doesn't know about CF!
i wonder how cf performs in this:http://blog.predius.org/2006/10/05/fucks-per-source-package-and-license/ On 10/6/06, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It definitely has CF projects though: I found FarCry with a simple search, and searches for CF tags produces quite a few results.Blair On 10/5/06, Brett Payne-Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://google.com/codesearchThis could have been interesting - except it doesn't list Coldfusion as a programming language... :(B) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] AUTH_USER question
Hi All How do you set up apache to pass through the cgi.auth_user values? I can't find any doc's on it... if someone can help... *warning* Apache n00b *warning* Thanks Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] coldfusion class files
Hi all, This may be a stupid question. With the underlying java architecture of cfmx, is it possible to grab the generated class files and run them seperately on a JVM, completely independantly of coldfusion? I'm asking for two reasons: first, could this be a shortcut to rapid java development, and secondly, if our business moves from CF to JSP, am I going to be able to salvage the existing CF applications easily? Thanks Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: coldfusion class files
ok, thanks Mark, are you saying I could dev in CF and then run the app from an war/ear - completely independently of the CF architecture?On 9/28/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Grant,I'm sorry to say, it's just not that easy.The generated class files are only part of the whole picture - you still need the underlying ColdFusion engine to make them run.You can deploy a coldfusion application (including .cfm files) on aJ2EEserver, as a war or a ear archive - which is a very valid thing todo however. Regards,MarkOn 9/28/06, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,This may be a stupid question. With the underlying java architecture of cfmx, is it possible to grab the generated class files and run them seperately on a JVM, completely independantly of coldfusion?I'm asking for two reasons: first, could this be a shortcut to rapid java development, and secondly, if our business moves from CF to JSP, am I going to be able to salvage the existing CF applications easily?ThanksGrant --E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: coldfusion class files
thanks y'allOn 9/28/06, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No you still need a CF license. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:+613 8676 4223 Mobile : 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Fullasagoog a waste of time.
haha geeks are funny. Dale actually made a valid point. From there on in everyone delved into semantics. Dale I feel your pain. Nice observation! On 8/18/06, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bloglines is good for that sort of thing. And I believe you can export afeed of your feeds as well. Dale Fraser wrote: Haha, I think I just need a better RSS reader than the google home page :) Any suggestions? Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 18 August 2006 10:41 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Fullasagoog a waste of time. Dale, I am glad you slept with an S? Sorry couldn't resist, as much as I knew what you meant :-) Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +6138676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Friday, 18 August 2006 6:28 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Fullasagoog a waste of time. Sounds interesting, except my name is slept with a S FRASER --Haikal SaadhApplications ProgrammerICT Resources, TALSSQUT Kelvin Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] more rumours
I heard on good authority today that telstra are redoing telstra.com and bigpond.com in CF.that's all i know... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] ZoomFlex Launch
Hi All Just reminder for anybody interested that we are holding a launch seminar in Sydney tomorrow evening for our new product which makes developing CF based Flex apps easier and quicker. Details below and you can register on our site. We have 2 copies of Flex Builder to give away at the event. http://www.straker.co.nz/shadozoom//events/sydney-zoomflex-launch.cfm Agenda for Thursday 27 July 5.30 - Drinks and nibbles on arrival 6.00 - Presentation by Grant Straker 7.00 - Q A Close Venue The Adelaide Room, The Menzies Hotel 14 Carrington St, Sydney. Cheers Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT: CF Intranet System
You can try ShadoCMS Is a commercial product but we do have an OEM agreement for CF and Flex with Adobe so can do some very good pricing as a bundle. We now also have a very powerful Flex presentation layer on top of Shado which means you can be up and running with Flex applications out of the box with very little upskilling. On top of that we have modules such as word import engine, form builders, event calendars and the like. Not to mention a fully extendable object orientated framework underpinning it all. Disclaimer: I make my living out of selling it ;-) , but there is a downloadable trial which costs nothing and takes about 10 minutes to setup and deploy a site. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Free Beer and Flex Builders
Hi All We are holding a launch in Sydney next Thursday for a new Flex based product we have created that speeds up developing CF / Flex based applications. We launched the product a couple of weeks ago in the USA at CFUnited and got a great response from everyone there so if you're looking at doing any CF / Flex development then please come along. Anyone on this list is welcome and we're providing drinks and some nibbles. We are also holding a draw for a couple of copies of Flex-Builder for those that attend. Details are: Agenda for Thursday 27 July 5.30 - Drinks and nibbles on arrival 6.00 - Presentation by Grant Straker 7.00 - Q A Close Venue The Adelaide Room, The Menzies Hotel 14 Carrington St, Sydney. If you're coming it would be much appreciated if you could register on our site so we have an idea of numbers attending. http://www.straker.co.nz/events/sydney-zoomflex-launch.cfm Cheers Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] ot: An AU flex app
I just stumbled across this - my first sighting of an AU flex app in the wild:https://member.afraccess.com/Index.mxml?versionChecked=true any ideas who the developers were?any other AU flex apps that ppl know of? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: ot: An AU flex app
Nice work Robin. Cutting Edge!On 7/13/06, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Hilliard gave a talk on it at the Sydney Flash PlatformDevelopers Group a couple weeks ago. It's the largest Flex ( 1.5)application in the world. The name of the organisation who devloped itcurrently escapes my mind, but Robin the technical architect on theproject. He plans to blog about various aspects of the project. Chris--Chris VelevitchManager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Groupwww.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Converting comma-delimited lists to quoted value
Jeremy, you need to use listQualify()look it up in the docs... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: ot: db architecture question
ok thanks guys - i resent the impilication it's a dailywtf though scott! anyway, you've basically clarified the issue for me. I am now armed to go back to my boss and say, we can do it this way... as for passing in parameters, yes you can query against a view with parameters (as per dale's example above), but you can't actually call a view like you do with a stored proc where you actually *pass* the parameters to the proc. that's all i meant. it may seem a little stupid (why not just use stored procs) but it all comes down to linked views - you can't link stored procs from one server to another, but you can with views. we have a view on the secure server that gets all data relevant to my site, and that view is linked to a view on a non secure server that cf has access to. the cf query pares back the initial dataset with parameters, but what i am after is an abstracted way to query the secure db with those parameters initally. did that make sense? it looks a little like this: secure sql server view (which is linked to the non-secure server): SELECT * FROM db1.tblclients ...which returns a huge resultset. non-secure sql server view: SELECT * FROM db1.the_secure_view_above and the coldfusion query: SELECT * FROM db2.the_non_secure_view_above WHERE clientid = '666' and ultimately what i'd like to be doing in CF is: SELECT * FROM db1.the_secure_view_above WHERE clientid = '666' but unfortunately the ppl in control here don't want me accessing db1(secure) directly. which let me to the initial question. and this following clarifaction. anyway, whatever, we'll get it sorted. i'm off to get my dose of thedailywtf.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] ot: db architecture question
hi all we've got a propriety system here that backends onto sql server. the system maintains all time entries and billing information for the firm - and in the firms view, this information is sacred and has about a million levels of security. I've been charged with making a web-visible reporting tool using the information in this system. we are not allowed to connect directly from CF to the sql database - there has to be a layer of abstraction between the web-visible server and the internal database. we've already done a version one, where we ran a seperate sql-server with linked views to the production sql-server. this has had many pitfalls, the main one being that you can't pass in parameters to a view - or link stored procs. basically we've had to make seperate views for each of the parameters that we wish to pass in (usually it's clientid, of which we only have about five at the moment) but it's a managability nightmare. so here's my question: how can i access the production db, either from the cf server or a separate db server, while still maintaining an abstracted level of security (and be able to pass in parameters)? There are about 3million records we're sifting through, so it's not practical to bring it into cf memory and filter from there. any ideas, for you advanced db guys? thanks grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Ajax and CF
don't you have to return (the cf array as) xml to js and create an
object from it then you can use all the DOM node functions on the
object (within js).
he's doing it here:
http://www.captain.at/howto-ajax-process-xml.php
On 6/15/06, Chad Renando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew,
My only experience with Ajax is with CFAjax, and I learned through
copy/paste and pain and it has been some months since I was full-time
programming on my application. That said, I do remember a few days of
frustration over processing arrays inside JavaScript.
Not being initmate with JavaScript, my framework was based on creating
actual HTML in the CFC and passing into the javascript as a string.
It was all a bit complex, as I ended up passing Ajax into Ajax for
situation where I would pass in a table using Ajax and then pass in an
AJax-based multiple drop-down select list inside of that.
Cfajax may have changed, but it was limited in that it could only
handle simple arrays. I got around this by creating certain values in
the array that would trigger a new variable in javascript. For
example, the code below slices off the first value and uses it as the
name for the second select list:
// populate the second drop down
function getSelectResult(SelectListReturnArray)
{
var secondSelect = SelectListReturnArray[0][VALUE];
var newArray = SelectListReturnArray.slice(1);
DWRUtil.removeAllOptions(secondSelect);
DWRUtil.addOptions(secondSelect, newArray, KEY, VALUE);
}
Hope that helps.
Chad
On 6/15/06, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew,
That was of no real use to me the example they give doesn't even work. I
have no problem return anything else from coldfusion via ajax or cfajax or
even ajaxCFC, but when it comes to an Array it does nothing. I am pulling my
hair out here because all documentation that I have seen should work.
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613 8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273
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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFJSON was:microshaft web framework
Check out
http://jehiah.com/projects/cfjson/
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[cfaussie] Re: datediff() error
hashes are your friendOn 6/8/06, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I try to use datediff() function in SQl select statement but got an error:
Error Executing Database Query.
Query Of Queries syntax error.Encountered (. Incorrect Select Statement, Expecting a 'FROM', but encountered '(' instead, A select statement should have a 'FROM' construct.
The error occurred in E:\webroot\IntraDev\ISTUHelpDesk\Administration\isuadmin.cfc: line 227Called from E:\webroot\IntraDev\ISTUHelpDesk\Administration\isuSupportStats.cfm: line 9
Called from E:\webroot\IntraDev\ISTUHelpDesk\Administration\isuSupportStats.cfm: line 1Called from E:\webroot\IntraDev\ISTUHelpDesk\Administration\isuadmin.cfc: line 227Called from E:\webroot\IntraDev\ISTUHelpDesk\Administration\isuSupportStats.cfm: line 9
Called from E:\webroot\IntraDev\ISTUHelpDesk\Administration\isuSupportStats.cfm: line 1
225 : SELECT abs(datediff(dd,date_submitted,date_com)) AS SubTotalNum226 : FROM qAllRequestedJobsWithAllFields227 : WHERE (date_submitted BETWEEN #convertedStartDate# AND #convertedEndDate#) AND (date_com is not null)
228 : /CFQUERY
229 : /CFCASE
Could anyone please help?Thanks,George
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[cfaussie] Re: Any using Tartan Framework?
or www.scotsmans-hips.com On 5/23/06, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/22/06, Scott Arbeitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any using Tartan? And why? Can anyone explain what it does and where I can find a tutorial on it? Try http://www.tartanframework.org Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne Meetings
i'll come for shits and giggles. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] OTish: google vs actionscript
http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/overview.html this has my jaw on the floor --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Webservices playing with the data
have a look at encoding on your xml. ms word produces those ghey
little double quotes that are in the ISO character set and not utf-8,
which i've had trouble with before.
just an idea, may be something completely unrelated.
G
On 5/12/06, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
Not sure how to explain this. So I'll try to make this as simple as
possible for me. I have a web service that is called and we pass a
query to it. Now in that web service query we have descriptions. Now
here is the issue;
If the description has funny characters such as (I think ascii
characters) it will fail the webservice from sending over the data. I
notice this inparticular when you copy and paste from either MS Word or
from the web.
Below is a snapshot of the error. I believe this is an issue with web
services and the way it reads and writes the xml but I'm unsure. Anyone
have an issue like this. I might just add that when I save it to the
database directly it works perfectly
Here is the fault returned when invoking the web service operation:
AxisFault
faultCode:
{http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/}Server.userException
faultSubcode:
faultString: coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCInvocationException:
[coldfusion.tagext.sql.QueryTag$DatabaseQueryException : Error
Executing Database Query.][java.sql.SQLException :
[Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]Unclosed quotation mark
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faultActor:
faultNode:
faultDetail:
{http://xml.apache.org/axis/}stackTrace:coldfusion.xml.rpc.CFCInvocationException:
[coldfusion.tagext.sql.QueryTag$DatabaseQueryException : Error
Executing Database Query.][java.sql.SQLException :
[Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][S...
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[cfaussie] Re: consuming web services with complex input types
if you're on cf7 there's a bunch of new functions for inspecting SOAP requests and headers... On 5/8/06, Scott Arbeitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Can anyone tell me a simple way to get a Struct stub that I can examine and populate before sending it as an input to a web service. Basically, I don't want to examine a WSDL file in order to know the structure of my ColdFusion ... err ... structure. I would like do something like this: myStruct = createInputStruct(wsdl, operation); cfdump var=#myStruct# / Then I can fill the struct, and call the webservice: cfset result = CreateObject(webservice, wsdl).operation(myStruct) / --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cf7 installation... issues!
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[cfaussie] Re: cf7 installation... issues!
thanks, hadn't seen the first article. will give it a look. yes, xp sp2 iis5. pretty much given up after spending a day and a half, working from a remote server now... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cf7 installation... issues!
w00t! props to Joel and my sysAdmin - we finally got it going! the key was in the comments of the second article that Joel posted - related to the max socket connections per application in XP. instead of letting the config util randomly scan the 100 ports we restricted it to 10 ports and it worked straight off... installing still got the connector errors, but then we ran the config in DOS using the commandline (all on one line): C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\jre\bin\java -DWSConfig.PortScanStartPort=2920 -DWSConfig.PortScanCount=10 -jar C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar Thanks heaps Joel. CFAussie comes to the rescue once more... Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Creating session variables
rumour has it that using evaluate is evil. you can avoid it by using the same syntax on the left and right side of the equation: cfloop from=1 to=5 index=counter cfset session.order[currency#counter#] = form[currency#counter#] cfloop G --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: RAM sizing on production servers
Hi Scott, This is all down to how your application handles it memory. If you allocate the full amount possible (approx 1GB) then you may have long garbage collection cycles - too little and you can get out of memory issues. Dual processor machines will handle GC much better so you can afford to up the JMV memory the more processors you have. I would not like to run a windows server with less than 2GB total RAM on the server so that you have the flexibility to go to the full 1GB JVM memory if required. Grant -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Thornton Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:32 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] RAM sizing on production servers Hi, What is the average amount of RAM do you guys have on your production coldfusion servers? How much do you allocate to coldfusion (I think I mean allocated to jrun?) ? I assume the machine has nothing on it except for coldfusion and an OS like windows 2003. Cheers, Scott Thornton, Programmer Application Development Information Services and Telecommunications Hunter-New England Area Health Service p: +61 2 49813589 m: 0413800242 e: scott.thornton at hnehealth.nsw.gov.au # This email has been scanned by MailMarshal, an email content filter. # --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: RAM sizing on production servers
I would say the most common is 512 allocated as this is the default but doesn't mean it is right for your application. If you have an -xms setting in your jvm config then this will also mean that the jvm will take all the memory allocated at start up. Really, it's a tuning process - load test the app, review the GC, Mem stats and jrun threads and then adjust your JVM (and Jrun Threads) accordingly. Grant -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Thornton Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [cfaussie] RAM sizing on production servers Hi, Ive got two zeon processors, but only 1 gig of ram. This morning, RAM usage is running at 400 meg or so, of an allocated 512... with spikes of nearly 500 meg. Just wondering what is common... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29/03/2006 9:52 am Hi Scott, This is all down to how your application handles it memory. If you allocate the full amount possible (approx 1GB) then you may have long garbage collection cycles - too little and you can get out of memory issues. Dual processor machines will handle GC much better so you can afford to up the JMV memory the more processors you have. I would not like to run a windows server with less than 2GB total RAM on the server so that you have the flexibility to go to the full 1GB JVM memory if required. Grant -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Thornton Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:32 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] RAM sizing on production servers Hi, What is the average amount of RAM do you guys have on your production coldfusion servers? How much do you allocate to coldfusion (I think I mean allocated to jrun?) ? I assume the machine has nothing on it except for coldfusion and an OS like windows 2003. Cheers, Scott Thornton, Programmer Application Development Information Services and Telecommunications Hunter-New England Area Health Service p: +61 2 49813589 m: 0413800242 e: scott.thornton at hnehealth.nsw.gov.au # This email has been scanned by MailMarshal, an email content filter. # # This email has been scanned by MailMarshal, an email content filter. # --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Performance Book
Not currently, I was working with Tim Buntel on getting it published through Macromedia press but with him departing I haven't followed up with the new guys yet. Currently I have published myself and registered my own ISBN etc. To be honest I will be doing several updates through the year so figure the PDF format might be the better option. It's the type of book that when you need the information you generally need it in a hurry. I'll let you know if I make any progress on this. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KNOTT, Brian Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:01 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Performance Book Thanks Grant. Any idea when it will be published in print? Brian Knott -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 21 March 2006 1:52 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] ColdFusion Performance Book Hi All, I was asked to let people know after my session at Webdu where they could get a book I was writing on ColdFusion Performance Troubleshooting and Tuning, I've setup a site where it can be purchased as a PDF for anyone interested www.cfperformance.com http://www.cfperformance.com/ --- This e-mail is sent by Suncorp-Metway Limited ABN 66 010 831 722 or one of its related entities Suncorp. Suncorp may be contacted at Level 18, 36 Wickham Terrace, Brisbane or on 13 11 55 or at suncorp.com.au. The content of this e-mail is the view of the sender or stated author and does not necessarily reflect the view of Suncorp. The content, including attachments, is a confidential communication between Suncorp and the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this e-mail, including attachments, is unauthorised and expressly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and delete the e-mail and any attachments from your system. If this e-mail constitutes a commercial message of a type that you no longer wish to receive please reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. # This email has been scanned by MailMarshal, an email content filter. # --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: FLASH object events
you can loop over a particular object using FOR...IN and it should trace all it's available events... I could be wrong tho as it's been a while since i've done any AS... On 3/20/06, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anywhere I can get a list of what objects fire what events so I know what to put into even listeners? like a button has click but movie clips use press or mousedown or what ever Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
