[cfaussie] Re: coldfusion class files
Grant, I'm sorry to say, it's just not that easy. The generated class files are only part of the whole picture - you still need the underlying ColdFusion engine to make them run. You can deploy a coldfusion application (including .cfm files) on a J2EEserver, as a war or a ear archive - which is a very valid thing to do however. Regards, Mark On 9/28/06, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This may be a stupid question. With the underlying java architecture of cfmx, is it possible to grab the generated class files and run them seperately on a JVM, completely independantly of coldfusion? I'm asking for two reasons: first, could this be a shortcut to rapid java development, and secondly, if our business moves from CF to JSP, am I going to be able to salvage the existing CF applications easily? Thanks Grant -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: coldfusion class files
Grant, The answer is no, and if you want to do what your looking at doing write your libraries in taglibs or java to begin with. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:+613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: coldfusion class files
ok, thanks Mark, are you saying I could dev in CF and then run the app from an war/ear - completely independently of the CF architecture?On 9/28/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Grant,I'm sorry to say, it's just not that easy.The generated class files are only part of the whole picture - you still need the underlying ColdFusion engine to make them run.You can deploy a coldfusion application (including .cfm files) on aJ2EEserver, as a war or a ear archive - which is a very valid thing todo however. Regards,MarkOn 9/28/06, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,This may be a stupid question. With the underlying java architecture of cfmx, is it possible to grab the generated class files and run them seperately on a JVM, completely independantly of coldfusion?I'm asking for two reasons: first, could this be a shortcut to rapid java development, and secondly, if our business moves from CF to JSP, am I going to be able to salvage the existing CF applications easily?ThanksGrant --E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: coldfusion class files
http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/j2ee/cfmx7j2ee_home.html Mark On 9/28/06, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, thanks Mark, are you saying I could dev in CF and then run the app from an war/ear - completely independently of the CF architecture? On 9/28/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant, I'm sorry to say, it's just not that easy. The generated class files are only part of the whole picture - you still need the underlying ColdFusion engine to make them run. You can deploy a coldfusion application (including .cfm files) on a J2EEserver, as a war or a ear archive - which is a very valid thing to do however. Regards, Mark On 9/28/06, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This may be a stupid question. With the underlying java architecture of cfmx, is it possible to grab the generated class files and run them seperately on a JVM, completely independantly of coldfusion? I'm asking for two reasons: first, could this be a shortcut to rapid java development, and secondly, if our business moves from CF to JSP, am I going to be able to salvage the existing CF applications easily? Thanks Grant -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: coldfusion class files
No you still need a CF license. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:+613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: coldfusion class files
thanks y'allOn 9/28/06, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No you still need a CF license. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:+613 8676 4223 Mobile : 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: coldfusion class files
and secondly, if our business moves from CF to JSP, am I going to be able to salvage the existing CF applications easily? sorry to say, no hope. do you use an MVC pattern much? do you have the view done up as re-usable custom tags in a tag library? one of Robin Hilliard's pearls of wisdom is to identify what/where your expensive code is: what is critical to an app that took lots of resources (people, hours, dev time, testing) to create. if that expensive code is all in your business and model layers (eg: as CFC's) then, sorry to say if you want it as Java, it's re-write time. if it's in the UI (don't laugh, I've seen apps where the business and model are [almost] autogenerated but the expense was in the UI getting the Javascript and tab-orders right) - and it's in taglibs - then the transfer from cfml to jsp won't be too bad - lots of similarities between JSP taglibs and CF ones (and the HTML and JS won't change) in short: CF to JSP/Java conversion will be along the lines of CF to, say, PHP or .NET. Apples and oranges. best answer? try to talk them out of the move. ADDITIONAL: there's an interesting article by Hal Helms in the July edition of the ColdFusion Developers Journal (A new vision for ColdFusion) that raises interesting points about CF and Java. While the points are not new, IMHO it's well worth the read before your bosses send you down this path. eh, my 2c. nothing more. b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
