Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
On Wednesday, 26 February 2014 22:28:28 UTC+11, M@ wrote: Do many cf places in oz use Railo? Daemon still have a healthy mix of Adobe ColdFusion and Railo amongst our clients. Invariably new clients are on Railo, and many older ACF clients are planning migration to Railo. While ACF remains an excellent platform, Railo has parity where it matters, better engineering support and better flexibility with respect to less traditional deployments (clustering, PaaS). Some larger Railo installations we are involved with locally include: - Australian Olympic Committee - V8 Supercards - NSW Board of Studies GB PS. Full disclosure: Railo now offers back to back support offerings through Daemon to the Railo engineering team. Daemon is the Railo premium support partner in APAC. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
I have written a lot of complex systems in ColdFusion in my time but for the last few years I have been working with just Java. Still love ColdFusion best though. So much so that I wrote a web server from scratch using many similar concepts to ColdFusion. Even to the point that pages were compiled automatically. I nope that ColdFusion stays strong. Cheers Simon. Brett Payne-Rhodes bret...@gmail.com wrote: Six months ago you could have tempted me to move to Melbourne from Perth. As it is now however I was tempted to Europe instead, now working in The Hague - just don't mention the weather... :) B) On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
I'm moving back to Oz next year after what will have been 9 years in the UK. Not sure exactly what I'm going to do when I get back, I still do a lot of CF today (primarily Railo) but have focused a lot more on JS lately and run a JS user group here. Do many cf places in oz use Railo? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Simon Haddon simon.had...@gmail.comwrote: I have written a lot of complex systems in ColdFusion in my time but for the last few years I have been working with just Java. Still love ColdFusion best though. So much so that I wrote a web server from scratch using many similar concepts to ColdFusion. Even to the point that pages were compiled automatically. I nope that ColdFusion stays strong. Cheers Simon. Brett Payne-Rhodes bret...@gmail.com wrote: Six months ago you could have tempted me to move to Melbourne from Perth. As it is now however I was tempted to Europe instead, now working in The Hague - just don't mention the weather... :) B) On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
Daemon are hosting Farcry CMS sites on Railo including http://sochi2014.olympics.com.au/ No surprises that I am also running Farcry (and MangoBlog) on Railo as well. On 26 February 2014 19:28, M@ Bourke m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.comwrote: I'm moving back to Oz next year after what will have been 9 years in the UK. Not sure exactly what I'm going to do when I get back, I still do a lot of CF today (primarily Railo) but have focused a lot more on JS lately and run a JS user group here. Do many cf places in oz use Railo? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Simon Haddon simon.had...@gmail.comwrote: I have written a lot of complex systems in ColdFusion in my time but for the last few years I have been working with just Java. Still love ColdFusion best though. So much so that I wrote a web server from scratch using many similar concepts to ColdFusion. Even to the point that pages were compiled automatically. I nope that ColdFusion stays strong. Cheers Simon. Brett Payne-Rhodes bret...@gmail.com wrote: Six months ago you could have tempted me to move to Melbourne from Perth. As it is now however I was tempted to Europe instead, now working in The Hague - just don't mention the weather... :) B) On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *AJ Mercer* webonix:net strength=Industrial / http://webonix.net | webonix:org community=Open / http://webonix.org http://twitter.com/webonix Railo Community Manager http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/community/team/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
Our company is using Railo over ACF.. I doubt I'd change back unless they Adobe released some killer features that couldn't be replicated somehow. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48:33 PM UTC+11, ajme...@gmail.com wrote: Daemon are hosting Farcry CMS sites on Railo including http://sochi2014.olympics.com.au/ No surprises that I am also running Farcry (and MangoBlog) on Railo as well. On 26 February 2014 19:28, M@ Bourke m.electroni...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I'm moving back to Oz next year after what will have been 9 years in the UK. Not sure exactly what I'm going to do when I get back, I still do a lot of CF today (primarily Railo) but have focused a lot more on JS lately and run a JS user group here. Do many cf places in oz use Railo? On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Simon Haddon simon@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I have written a lot of complex systems in ColdFusion in my time but for the last few years I have been working with just Java. Still love ColdFusion best though. So much so that I wrote a web server from scratch using many similar concepts to ColdFusion. Even to the point that pages were compiled automatically. I nope that ColdFusion stays strong. Cheers Simon. Brett Payne-Rhodes bre...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Six months ago you could have tempted me to move to Melbourne from Perth. As it is now however I was tempted to Europe instead, now working in The Hague - just don't mention the weather... :) B) On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Dave david...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to cfau...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to cfau...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to cfau...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to cfau...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *AJ Mercer* webonix:net strength=Industrial / http://webonix.net | webonix:org community=Open / http://webonix.org http://twitter.com/webonix Railo Community Managerhttp://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/community/team/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
I can only think of one off the top my head (not me). Have you been to a recent MAD meetup? That's probably your best bet for finding new talent, I would think. Sent from my mobile doohickey On 26/02/2014 7:48 AM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
There are heaps, I personally know 30+ all employed but put an add up on seek and you will find the ones that aren't happy. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 8:43 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia I can only think of one off the top my head (not me). Have you been to a recent MAD meetup? That's probably your best bet for finding new talent, I would think. Sent from my mobile doohickey On 26/02/2014 7:48 AM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com mailto:davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
There you go, shows how much I'm connected these days ;) Sent from my mobile doohickey On 26/02/2014 8:44 AM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: There are heaps, I personally know 30+ all employed but put an add up on seek and you will find the ones that aren't happy. Regards Dale Fraser *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Mandel *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 February 2014 8:43 AM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia I can only think of one off the top my head (not me). Have you been to a recent MAD meetup? That's probably your best bet for finding new talent, I would think. Sent from my mobile doohickey On 26/02/2014 7:48 AM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
There are several companies with lots of CF developers in Melbounre CogState NGA.NET Thomson Reuters On The House IMGSTG And probably lots im unaware of. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 8:46 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia There you go, shows how much I'm connected these days ;) Sent from my mobile doohickey On 26/02/2014 8:44 AM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au mailto:d...@fraser.id.au wrote: There are heaps, I personally know 30+ all employed but put an add up on seek and you will find the ones that aren't happy. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 8:43 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia I can only think of one off the top my head (not me). Have you been to a recent MAD meetup? That's probably your best bet for finding new talent, I would think. Sent from my mobile doohickey On 26/02/2014 7:48 AM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com mailto:davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
I'm guessing a lot of us got sick of the daily grind of finding people who would pay for our skills and went off on our own projects. I dont look for contracting work any more - sometimes it comes my way, but I'm just not interested in talking to whippersnappers who think cos im over 40 years old I must be stupid and incapable of understanding the interweb. I built my first web site in 1996, and I spend about a third of my time learning, just like everyone else, and I stay up with current techniques, just like everyone else, but unlike the whippersnappers, I have a few miles on the clock and know a bit about how to sell things and communication. But try telling that to someone aged 25 who is barely out of short pants. They rate you on what kind of tie you are wearing at the interview, and ask questions like '.. and where do you see yourself in 5 years?'. Or the total stupido- what do you think is your weakest quality?(to which I'm thinking ..Do you want an experienced programmer or dont you? and for how long? months or years? I'm not looking for a career here - just to do the job you want done. When you call a plumber to fix your sink, do you ask him what his career aspirations are?) That's why I'm not in the market any more. I'm still using ColdFusion a lot, and I'm building some pretty sophisticated applications, and maintaining some pretty sophisticated web sites. I cant remember the last time I tried to sell anyone on ColdFusion over other technologies. Few of my clients care a damn. They talk about the end result web site, not the technology used to build it. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/02/2014 7:48 AM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
Hi Dave, senior-level CF developer in Sydney… Unfortunately because I have ties up here I wouldn't be of much use for any jobs in Melbourne... I'll check my list of contacts and see if any of them may be in Melbourne and let you know... Regards, Eliseo On Wednesday, February 26, 2014, Dave davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cfaussie%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cfaussie@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
Well said Mike, There are loads of 40+ great web developers out there, so you are not alone. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike K Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 9:04 AM To: cfaussie Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia I'm guessing a lot of us got sick of the daily grind of finding people who would pay for our skills and went off on our own projects. I dont look for contracting work any more - sometimes it comes my way, but I'm just not interested in talking to whippersnappers who think cos im over 40 years old I must be stupid and incapable of understanding the interweb. I built my first web site in 1996, and I spend about a third of my time learning, just like everyone else, and I stay up with current techniques, just like everyone else, but unlike the whippersnappers, I have a few miles on the clock and know a bit about how to sell things and communication. But try telling that to someone aged 25 who is barely out of short pants. They rate you on what kind of tie you are wearing at the interview, and ask questions like '.. and where do you see yourself in 5 years?'. Or the total stupido- what do you think is your weakest quality?(to which I'm thinking ..Do you want an experienced programmer or dont you? and for how long? months or years? I'm not looking for a career here - just to do the job you want done. When you call a plumber to fix your sink, do you ask him what his career aspirations are?) That's why I'm not in the market any more. I'm still using ColdFusion a lot, and I'm building some pretty sophisticated applications, and maintaining some pretty sophisticated web sites. I cant remember the last time I tried to sell anyone on ColdFusion over other technologies. Few of my clients care a damn. They talk about the end result web site, not the technology used to build it. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com mailto:mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/02/2014 7:48 AM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com mailto:davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET http://ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
It has been my experience that those finding it difficult to get developers, are themselves using older version of ColdFusion, mainly version 5. And that is a problem in itself... Not saying this is that case here, but something to consider. And personally the money usually on offer for developing on these systems, is like a kick in the teeth for developers. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
yep, there are still a few of us around... the challenge has always been 'which stone to look under' * Seek and the like are full of the new toys, PHP, Rails and a bit of .net * The CFUGs of old have long since disappeared.. Even CFaussie has seen better days... but there are a few of us around. Dave? what specifically are you looking for? I may know a few peeps that are kicking around that want a flash back to the 'good old days' cheers, Lucas. On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:45:59 AM UTC+11, Mark Mandel wrote: There you go, shows how much I'm connected these days ;) Sent from my mobile doohickey On 26/02/2014 8:44 AM, Dale Fraser da...@fraser.id.au javascript: wrote: There are heaps, I personally know 30+ all employed but put an add up on seek and you will find the ones that aren’t happy. Regards Dale Fraser *From:* cfau...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: cfau...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Mark Mandel *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 February 2014 8:43 AM *To:* cfau...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia I can only think of one off the top my head (not me). Have you been to a recent MAD meetup? That's probably your best bet for finding new talent, I would think. Sent from my mobile doohickey On 26/02/2014 7:48 AM, Dave david...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to cfau...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to cfau...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to cfau...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
Not sure I agree with that, I haven’t come across any companies using CF5 for a very long time, most are 8 or 9. Still there are lot of spaghetti applications out there good developers don’t want to work on and a lot of spaghetti developers that good companies don’t want. cfaussie is more a social group these days, questions are generally saved for stackoverflow and the likes. But there really are a lot more companies and people out there, however in reality it’s only a fraction of other technologies. PS: If it make you feel any better, finding Ruby On Rails developers isn’t any easier. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 12:47 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia It has been my experience that those finding it difficult to get developers, are themselves using older version of ColdFusion, mainly version 5. And that is a problem in itself... Not saying this is that case here, but something to consider. And personally the money usually on offer for developing on these systems, is like a kick in the teeth for developers. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au http://www.andyscott.id.au / Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
See that is the thing Dale, your experience is different to the next. I know of 7 companies just in the last 3 years alone, who couldn't get developers and have emailed me. When I ask them what version they are using, so I can ask around, I almost fall over backwards when they say ColdFusion 5. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
Doesn’t surprise me, I know there are lots using it that I don’t know of. I see lots of cf sites and wonder who is developing this. Regards Dale Fraser -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia
Six months ago you could have tempted me to move to Melbourne from Perth. As it is now however I was tempted to Europe instead, now working in The Hague - just don't mention the weather... :) B) On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne). We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications. dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
