Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion on Seek demise
On 28/08/2010, at 1:38 PM, Mike Kear wrote: I talk to recruiters and they say 'coldfusion people are really hard to find'. ... at the price the recruiters are willing to pay, that is :-). Robin ROBIN HILLIARD Chief Technology Officer ro...@rocketboots.com.au RocketBoots Pty Ltd Level 11 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Phone +61 2 9323 2507 Facsimile +61 2 9323 2501 Mobile +61 418 414 341 www.rocketboots.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] ColdFusion on Seek demise
You know what is even funnier about that? I noticed that there is a ColdFusion / Spectra position, OMG I did not think anyone still used that over bloated piece of crap still. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au/ http://www.andyscott.id.au/ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Saturday, 28 August 2010 1:00 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com; cfj...@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] ColdFusion on Seek demise ColdFusion and others seem to have fallen into a special category on Seek now. It seems that if you search for something that isn't significant enough, then it will give you what it thinks you are better off looking at. So my daily seek ColdFusion email subscription, is now about 30 jobs, of which you would be lucky to find of those has ColdFusion at all. Seek seems to think I should be moving to .NET most of the positions I get are .NET, but it's a mix with Java php others. Try it yourself, I think it's a stupid decision of Seek, I just want it to find what I'm looking for not what you think I'm interested in. Now without going through all 30 adds someone looking can't really tell if any of them have a ColdFusion requirement at all. Try this link It's a search for ColdFusion 2,750 jobs http://seek.com.au/jobsearch/index.ascx?DateRange=31 http://seek.com.au/jobsearch/index.ascx?DateRange=31catnation=3000Keyword s=ColdFusionsearchfrom=quick catnation=3000Keywords=ColdFusionsearchfrom=quick Searching for ASP.NET only returns 835 Hopefully if we make enough noise someone might fix it, I blogged this also. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://cfmldocs.com/ http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion on Seek demise
Kai, all you do is open the email in Outlook, use the find functionality to look for ColdFusion then Cold Fusion, CF, CFML it will all be done in seconds.At least it is in my case because there hasn't been a job in my 300+ emails with any hits on those strings in months. I talk to recruiters and they say 'coldfusion people are really hard to find'. But they arent advertising for any of those strings at all.That possibly explains it.No one in Sydney is actively looking for Coldfusion people, at least in the usual careers web sites. Good thing I'm not depending on contracting work for a living any more. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Kai Koenig k...@koeni.de wrote: Noticed that same thing - really annoying. I'm getting sort of 160ish jobs in the email now with a search string of Cold Fusion, ColdFusion, CF, CFML etc. Makes it quite useless. Cheers Kai ColdFusion and others seem to have fallen into a special category on Seek now. It seems that if you search for something that isn’t significant enough, then it will give you what it thinks you are better off looking at. So my daily seek ColdFusion email subscription, is now about 30 jobs, of which you would be lucky to find of those has ColdFusion at all. Seek seems to think I should be moving to .NET most of the positions I get are .NET, but it’s a mix with Java php others. Try it yourself, I think it’s a stupid decision of Seek, I just want it to find what I’m looking for not what you think I’m interested in. Now without going through all 30 adds someone looking can’t really tell if any of them have a ColdFusion requirement at all. Try this link It’s a search for ColdFusion 2,750 jobs http://seek.com.au/jobsearch/index.ascx?DateRange=31catnation=3000Keywords=ColdFusionsearchfrom=quick Searching for ASP.NET only returns 835 Hopefully if we make enough noise someone might fix it, I blogged this also. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 435 263 414 web: http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz blog: http://www.bloginblack.de twitter: http://www.twitter.com/agentK !!! New AU mobile number !!! -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion on Seek demise
It's totally not the point that one certainly could use whatever tool to full-text search in their email. And I don't want to discuss the CF is dead or I can't find a CF job or I can't find a CF developer topics anymore, it's a pointless discussion imho. The _point_ is that if I pass X or Y or (Z and A) into seek.com.au, I want the result to match those search filters. Their daily emails make this process easier and into the user's face in the morning. If they can't or don't want to do that, people will hopefully stop using them. Cheers Kai On 28/08/2010, at 3:38 PM, Mike Kear wrote: Kai, all you do is open the email in Outlook, use the find functionality to look for ColdFusion then Cold Fusion, CF, CFML it will all be done in seconds.At least it is in my case because there hasn't been a job in my 300+ emails with any hits on those strings in months. I talk to recruiters and they say 'coldfusion people are really hard to find'. But they arent advertising for any of those strings at all.That possibly explains it.No one in Sydney is actively looking for Coldfusion people, at least in the usual careers web sites. Good thing I'm not depending on contracting work for a living any more. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Kai Koenig k...@koeni.de wrote: Noticed that same thing - really annoying. I'm getting sort of 160ish jobs in the email now with a search string of Cold Fusion, ColdFusion, CF, CFML etc. Makes it quite useless. Cheers Kai ColdFusion and others seem to have fallen into a special category on Seek now. It seems that if you search for something that isn’t significant enough, then it will give you what it thinks you are better off looking at. So my daily seek ColdFusion email subscription, is now about 30 jobs, of which you would be lucky to find of those has ColdFusion at all. Seek seems to think I should be moving to .NET most of the positions I get are .NET, but it’s a mix with Java php others. Try it yourself, I think it’s a stupid decision of Seek, I just want it to find what I’m looking for not what you think I’m interested in. Now without going through all 30 adds someone looking can’t really tell if any of them have a ColdFusion requirement at all. Try this link It’s a search for ColdFusion 2,750 jobs http://seek.com.au/jobsearch/index.ascx?DateRange=31catnation=3000Keywords=ColdFusionsearchfrom=quick Searching for ASP.NET only returns 835 Hopefully if we make enough noise someone might fix it, I blogged this also. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 435 263 414 web: http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz blog: http://www.bloginblack.de twitter: http://www.twitter.com/agentK !!! New AU mobile number !!! -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 435 263 414 web: http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz blog: http://www.bloginblack.de twitter: http://www.twitter.com/agentK !!! New AU mobile number !!! -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion on Seek demise
All well and good Mike in fact you are in prime territory for CF work (Sydney). In Canberra it is a different story. Sure they advertise phantom jobs and that is it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion on Seek demise
No has been happening for a long time. Since launch of CF9 at least. Note how even the book publishers have sucked up tight? Peter Tilbrook Managing Director, ColdGen Internet Solutions Professional Adobe ColdFusion 9 Application Development President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-2-0457-449-016 Email Address: pe...@coldgen.com WWW: http://www.coldgen.com/ ABN: 80 826 226 128 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 15:02, MrBuzzy mrbu...@gmail.com wrote: I don't use seek, and I'm not defending them, but for what it's worth I did just notice this on their site; 'We've worked hard to make your job searching more efficient. To ensure you don't miss any relevant jobs as the new changes are phased in, there will be a short transition period where you may receive more jobs in your search results than you are used to. We expect this to last for a few weeks.' So maybe it's just a temporary thing...? Sent from my iPhone On 28/08/2010, at 2:37 PM, Kai Koenig k...@koeni.de wrote: It's totally not the point that one certainly could use whatever tool to full-text search in their email. And I don't want to discuss the CF is dead or I can't find a CF job or I can't find a CF developer topics anymore, it's a pointless discussion imho. The _point_ is that if I pass X or Y or (Z and A) into seek.com.au, I want the result to match those search filters. Their daily emails make this process easier and into the user's face in the morning. If they can't or don't want to do that, people will hopefully stop using them. Cheers Kai On 28/08/2010, at 3:38 PM, Mike Kear wrote: Kai, all you do is open the email in Outlook, use the find functionality to look for ColdFusion then Cold Fusion, CF, CFML it will all be done in seconds.At least it is in my case because there hasn't been a job in my 300+ emails with any hits on those strings in months. I talk to recruiters and they say 'coldfusion people are really hard to find'. But they arent advertising for any of those strings at all.That possibly explains it.No one in Sydney is actively looking for Coldfusion people, at least in the usual careers web sites. Good thing I'm not depending on contracting work for a living any more. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Kai Koenig k...@koeni.de wrote: Noticed that same thing - really annoying. I'm getting sort of 160ish jobs in the email now with a search string of Cold Fusion, ColdFusion, CF, CFML etc. Makes it quite useless. Cheers Kai ColdFusion and others seem to have fallen into a special category on Seek now. It seems that if you search for something that isn’t significant enough, then it will give you what it thinks you are better off looking at. So my daily seek ColdFusion email subscription, is now about 30 jobs, of which you would be lucky to find of those has ColdFusion at all. Seek seems to think I should be moving to .NET most of the positions I get are .NET, but it’s a mix with Java php others. Try it yourself, I think it’s a stupid decision of Seek, I just want it to find what I’m looking for not what you think I’m interested in. Now without going through all 30 adds someone looking can’t really tell if any of them have a ColdFusion requirement at all. Try this link It’s a search for ColdFusion 2,750 jobs http://seek.com.au/jobsearch/index.ascx?DateRange=31catnation=3000Keywords=ColdFusionsearchfrom=quick Searching for ASP.NET only returns 835 Hopefully if we make enough noise someone might fix it, I blogged this also. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 435 263 414 web: http://www.ventego-creative.co.nzhttp://www.ventego-creative.co.nz blog: http://www.bloginblack.dehttp://www.bloginblack.de twitter: http://www.twitter.com/agentKhttp://www.twitter.com/agentK !!! New AU mobile number !!! -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
