[cia-drugs] Re: The definition of power....?

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
Russell Opium Trust (ROT) used its mercenaries and mindslaves to
liberate the poppies from Taliban for Pak Heroin Junta and British
East India Company (CIA,MI6,ROT,ISI) in 2001. Pak ISI ran Taliban
militarily but could not stop the runaway train of Taliban religious
puppetry with regard to opium, without ROT mercs.

ROT mercs liberated the poppies, but not the women. During the Vietnam
War the US still had a fraction of a free press, though Bob Zelnick
could say,"The truth is what we say it is". Due to a smidgeon of press
freedom, the press could show a few napalm victims, but no Agent
Orange victims, and a couple of Buddhist priests burning themselves
alive with gasoline to protest CIA puppetry favoring Catholicism over
Buddhism by violence. One of the Nhu brothers was a Catholic priest
with aspirations to be named a cardinal in Rome. In contrast, there is
no US press anymore, only five weapons company propaganda. Since ROT
mercs and five weapons company mind slaves liberated the poppies from
Taliban in 2001, the US press does not tell us that HUNDREDS of Afghan
women burn themselves alive EVERY YEAR of the US ROT occupation.
Poppies are growing, but so is ROT misogynism and a vast FBI pedophile
video library(see "APEC FBI video" on google or here).

As we go backward into Hitlerian cowboy utopia, we go back to the
strongest man raping the women of his choice, and FBI using kidnapped
children in pedophile sex videos. That is Darwinian machismo, which
makes sense to a moron. I make a common sense case against the
superficial propaganda, and then you have religious sources and
economic history as given by David Levy, in his book Vanity of the
Philosopher.

If we keep going, Afghan women will teach US women to burn themselves
with gasoline like Vietnam's buddhist priests, in front of cowboy and
FBI pedo cop saloons all over America. Apparently Afghan women do not
appreciate "arranged marriages", arranged by Darwinian despotism.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Mary Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Generic imperative.  Used to be the physically stongest won.  We've
"progressed" since then. Or so some say.
> 
> --- On Fri, 9/19/08, muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: The definition of power?
> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 2:20 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Some people define power like psychopaths and
Darwin,"might makes
> 
> right". Victims are Darwinian losers. To do that they need to employ a
> 
> lot of pseudo-science and pseudo-logic and then avoid or prevent
> 
> examination. Then they can get away add thin cover like trickle-down
> 
> and the love of money is the root of all good, but behind that they
> 
> are cynics and military keynesian. Milton Friedman and the John Birch
> 
> Society would not admit to being military keynesian or any keynesian,
> 
> but look at the bottom line not the advertising.
> 
> 
> 
> Psychopaths. "Elite deviants".
> 
> 
> 
> For a detailed rebuttal of superficial propaganda, in terms of
> 
> economics and economic history and history of political economy,
> 
> Vanity of the Philosopher by Sandra Peart and David Levy.
> 
> 
> 
> -Bob
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Mary Hartman 
wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > 
> 
> > I was contemplating this notion of "power" that these guys have. 
> 
> > They seem to think that they are powerful because they can rape, tape,
> 
> > murder, cripple, maim, blow people/buildings up  Any idiot can do
> 
> > those things.  When Ted Bundy does it we call him a serial killer
> 
> and he gets juiced.  When (pick a name) does it we call it power - 
> 
> and sometimes call them "Sir".   
> 
> > 
> 
> > Destruction
> 
> > is easy.  Rebuilding a building is not rocket science.  Rebuilding
> 
> > people is something altogether different and it's not something these
> 
> > clowns can do: that's powerful stuff, too powerful for those guys. 
> 
> > Christ didn't blow things up, didn't rape, didn't kill, maybe built a
> 
> > building or two because he was the son of a carpenter.  Christ's
power,
> 
> > in my opinion, came from building people; from the inside out.  
> 
> > 
> 
> > Christ
> 
> > was not afraid of anyone knowing who he was.  Every single one of
these
> 
> > so-called "powerful" people fear being found out and they use whatever
> 
> > means at their disposal to make sure their false image is preserved. 
> 
> > They're not powerful, they're pitiful.  
> 
> > 
> 
> > How much money/power
> 
> > does it take to buy back your soul?!   If you believe in God (by any
> 
> > name) you know he doesn't accept Mastercard, Visa, or American
Express. 
> 
> > The only thing we all take with us is our soul.  Mine is not
white, but
> 
> > it is certainly not "black" and I can honestly say that in my lifetime
> 
> > I have built a great deal in the places where it matters - inside
> 
> > others.      
> 
> >
>




[cia-drugs] Re: The whole Bolivian story- Eng and Span

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
Moron Philip Goldman reminds me of CIA interventions in Guatemala 1954, 
and many other countries, and United Fruit (CIA precursor) 
machine-gunning farmers in Colombia.

>From 12 years old I knew Col. Caldwell King, Deputy Director for 
Western Hemisphere Operations, who ran the Guatemala coup. I remember 
Pete Meisinger bragging about the three foot tall steel public address 
speaker on his living room floor in Vienna, Virginia, calling it his 
favorite hifi system. It had been used to broadcast noise of explosions 
and airplanes from the roof of the US embassy in Guatemala City at 
night. A trick like that and a fake radio station in Mexico pretending 
to be in Guatemala might have fooled latin americans once, but they are 
not easily fooled and not afraid of CIA-bribed generals anymore.

-Bob

This is a document written by three Congressmen from Bolivia's MAS
(Movement
Toward Socialism) party which provides details regarding the planning
and
carrying out of actions designed to provoke civil disorder and 
destabilize the
government of Bolivia. The document includes observations about the role
of
former Ambassador Philip Goldman in fomenting destabilization efforts.

Separatist Governors march in Bolivia with the support of U.S.
Ambassador
by César Navarro, Gustavo Torrico, Gabriel Herbas y René
Martínez *

September 11, 2008

The United States is supporting efforts to overthrow the popular 
government of
President Evo Morales through CONALDE (National Democratic Council).
Events
occurring today in the eastern provinces are part of this strategy,
which we
will outline here:

1. October 13, 2006 Philip Goldberg was named Ambassador to Bolivia.
Between
1994 and 1996 he headed the Bosnia Office for the U.S. State Department,
during
the war in the Balkans. Between 2004-06 he was head of Mission in
Pristine,
Kosovo. During this time the separation and independence of this region
was
consolidated, it was a period when with thousands of deaths occurred in
the
region.

2. Philip Goldberg came to Bolivia on a mission to destabilize the 
government
of Evo Morales, by fomenting separatism in the eastern regions. After
the
electoral victory of Morales in December 2005, the traditional parties 
and the
elite were completely defeated. It was Goldberg's job to re-organize 
them and
outline a destabilization plan to undermine Morales.

3. Goldberg organized a large network of business leaders in the eastern
regions, as well as owners of media outlets and former Podemos party 
leaders, in
order to launch a disinformation campaign regarding the Morales 
administration
in the context of intensified regional struggles against the Bolivian
state.

a) The campaign needed to portray that drug trafficking is increasing in
Bolivia.

b) As a second step, the media had to portray that Evo was governing 
poorly -
inflation, corruption and bad governance were all increasing.

c) The media was also to insist on blaming all of the violence on the 
government
of Evo Morales, and advance the idea that it was Evo who was dividing 
Bolivia.

With all of these steps in place, Goldberg met during the first week of 
May this
year with Jorge Quiroga (who lost to Evo in the Presidential elections 
of 2005)
and they agreed that the Senate would approve the Recall Referendum. 
They were
convinced that Evo Morales would get less that 50% of the votes, and 
once he was
de-legitimized, the opposition and the eastern governors would demand
the
resignation of the President as, "illegitimate, a bad governor and for 
dividing
Bolivia".

However, the governors had not been consulted, and were opposed to this 
plan.

June 23rd: CONALDE meets in Tarija to write a pronouncement rejecting 
the Recall
Referendum. (La Razon, June 24th)

June 17th: Philip Goldberg travels to the U.S., (La Razon and La Prensa,
June
17th) under the pretext of a supposed 'diplomatic crisis'. While there,
he
coordinates a plan with public relations firms, with former Bolivian 
president
Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada and former Bolivian Defense Minister
Carlos  Sanchez
Berzain; to plan a dirty war which assures that Evo loses the
referendum.

July 2: Goldberg returns to La Paz (La Prensa, July 3rd and 4th) and 
meets with
each of the other governors, to convince them to accept the Recall 
Referendum.
First he meets in Calacoto with the governor of Beni; later he pressures
CONALDE
members to agree to the Referendum.

July 5: The opposition governors agree to the Referendum (La Razon, July
5).

The owners of large TV channels participated in the strategy- as a 
result, all
of the political programs cited polls showing that Morales would only 
get 49% of
the vote (La Prensa, July 21). The intent to overthrow the government 
via the
ballot box was in place.

This was accompanied by an intense dirty war that Goldberg mounted with 
the help
of U.S. public relations firms. In Bolivia, a public relations firm in 
La Paz
was contracted to produce the first derogatory spots against Evo
Moral

Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The definition of power....?

2008-09-18 Thread Mary Hartman
Generic imperative.  Used to be the physically stongest won.  We've 
"progressed" since then. Or so some say.

--- On Fri, 9/19/08, muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: The definition of power?
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 2:20 AM











Some people define power like psychopaths and Darwin,"might makes

right". Victims are Darwinian losers. To do that they need to employ a

lot of pseudo-science and pseudo-logic and then avoid or prevent

examination. Then they can get away add thin cover like trickle-down

and the love of money is the root of all good, but behind that they

are cynics and military keynesian. Milton Friedman and the John Birch

Society would not admit to being military keynesian or any keynesian,

but look at the bottom line not the advertising.



Psychopaths. "Elite deviants".



For a detailed rebuttal of superficial propaganda, in terms of

economics and economic history and history of political economy,

Vanity of the Philosopher by Sandra Peart and David Levy.



-Bob



--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Mary Hartman  wrote:

>

> 

> I was contemplating this notion of "power" that these guys have. 

> They seem to think that they are powerful because they can rape, tape,

> murder, cripple, maim, blow people/buildings up  Any idiot can do

> those things.  When Ted Bundy does it we call him a serial killer

and he gets juiced.  When (pick a name) does it we call it power - 

and sometimes call them "Sir".   

> 

> Destruction

> is easy.  Rebuilding a building is not rocket science.  Rebuilding

> people is something altogether different and it's not something these

> clowns can do: that's powerful stuff, too powerful for those guys. 

> Christ didn't blow things up, didn't rape, didn't kill, maybe built a

> building or two because he was the son of a carpenter.  Christ's power,

> in my opinion, came from building people; from the inside out.  

> 

> Christ

> was not afraid of anyone knowing who he was.  Every single one of these

> so-called "powerful" people fear being found out and they use whatever

> means at their disposal to make sure their false image is preserved. 

> They're not powerful, they're pitiful.  

> 

> How much money/power

> does it take to buy back your soul?!   If you believe in God (by any

> name) you know he doesn't accept Mastercard, Visa, or American Express. 

> The only thing we all take with us is our soul.  Mine is not white, but

> it is certainly not "black" and I can honestly say that in my lifetime

> I have built a great deal in the places where it matters - inside

> others.      

>




  




 

















  

[cia-drugs] Re: FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
I see. There was a message in fine print about Server busy code 300. I
did not notice the first time.

Here's how to write a search url to put in messages or a web page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/msearch?query=bernays


--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "norgesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   44844 Re: [cia-drugs] FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH 




[cia-drugs] The whole Bolivian story- Eng and Span

2008-09-18 Thread Vanessa DiDomenico

This is a document written by three Congressmen from Bolivia's MAS (Movement 
Toward Socialism) party which provides details regarding the planning and 
carrying out of actions designed to provoke civil disorder and destabilize the 
government of Bolivia.  The document includes observations about the role of 
former Ambassador Philip Goldman in fomenting destabilization efforts.

Separatist Governors march in Bolivia with the support of U.S. Ambassador
by César Navarro, Gustavo Torrico, Gabriel Herbas y René Martínez *

September 11, 2008

The United States is supporting efforts to overthrow the popular government of 
President Evo Morales through CONALDE (National Democratic Council).  Events 
occurring today in the eastern provinces are part of this strategy, which we 
will outline here:

1.  October 13, 2006 Philip Goldberg was named Ambassador to Bolivia.  Between 
1994 and 1996 he headed the Bosnia Office for the U.S. State Department, during 
the war in the Balkans.  Between 2004-06 he was head of Mission in Pristine, 
Kosovo.  During this time the separation and independence of this region was 
consolidated, it was a period when with thousands of deaths occurred in the 
region.

2.  Philip Goldberg came to Bolivia on a mission to destabilize the government 
of Evo Morales, by fomenting separatism in the eastern regions.  After the 
electoral victory of Morales in December 2005, the traditional parties and the 
elite were completely defeated.  It was Goldberg's job to re-organize them and 
outline a destabilization plan to undermine Morales.

3. Goldberg organized a large network of business leaders in the eastern 
regions, as well as owners of media outlets and former Podemos party leaders, 
in order to launch a disinformation campaign regarding the Morales 
administration in the context of intensified regional struggles against the 
Bolivian state.

a) The campaign needed to portray that drug trafficking is increasing in 
Bolivia. 

b) As a second step, the media had to portray that Evo was governing poorly - 
inflation, corruption and bad governance were all increasing.

c) The media was also to insist on blaming all of the violence on the 
government of Evo Morales, and advance the idea that it was Evo who was 
dividing Bolivia.

With all of these steps in place, Goldberg met during the first week of May 
this year with Jorge Quiroga (who lost to Evo in the Presidential elections of 
2005) and they agreed that the Senate would approve the Recall Referendum.  
They were convinced that Evo Morales would get less that 50% of the votes, and 
once he was de-legitimized, the opposition and the eastern governors would 
demand the resignation of the President as, "illegitimate, a bad governor and 
for dividing Bolivia".

However, the governors had not been consulted, and were opposed to this plan.

June 23rd: CONALDE meets in Tarija to write a pronouncement rejecting the 
Recall Referendum. (La Razon, June 24th) 

June 17th: Philip Goldberg travels to the U.S., (La Razon and La Prensa, June 
17th) under the pretext of a supposed 'diplomatic crisis'.  While there, he 
coordinates a plan with public relations firms, with former Bolivian president 
Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada and former Bolivian Defense Minister Carlos Sanchez 
Berzain; to plan a dirty war which assures that Evo loses the referendum.  

July 2:  Goldberg returns to La Paz (La Prensa, July 3rd and 4th) and meets 
with each of the other governors, to convince them to accept the Recall 
Referendum.  First he meets in Calacoto with the governor of Beni; later he 
pressures CONALDE members to agree to the Referendum. 

July 5:  The opposition governors agree to the Referendum (La Razon, July 5). 

The owners of large TV channels participated in the strategy- as a result, all 
of the political programs cited polls showing that Morales would only get 49% 
of the vote (La Prensa, July 21).  The intent to overthrow the government via 
the ballot box was in place.

This was accompanied by an intense dirty war that Goldberg mounted with the 
help of U.S. public relations firms.  In Bolivia, a public relations firm in La 
Paz was contracted to produce the first derogatory spots against Evo Morales.  
However, when the public relations firm realized that the spots and the money 
to run them had come from the United States, the agency resigned, and refused 
to participate in the dirty war.  The strategy also included denunciations of 
supposed fraud and in the eastern provinces; a hunger strike was called to 
distract attention from the election.  

The plan to remove Evo from government was impacted by the results of the 
Referendum.  Evo’s mandate was legitimized with 67% of the vote, and the only 
alternative left for Goldberg was to activate his 'Plan B' which included a 
series of stoppages, road blockages and violent actions which would lead to one 
of two outcomes:

I) The conflict would spread through the east and part of the west, and as 
people 

[cia-drugs] Re: The definition of power....?

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
Some people define power like psychopaths and Darwin,"might makes
right". Victims are Darwinian losers. To do that they need to employ a
lot of pseudo-science and pseudo-logic and then avoid or prevent
examination. Then they can get away add thin cover like trickle-down
and the love of money is the root of all good, but behind that they
are cynics and military keynesian. Milton Friedman and the John Birch
Society would not admit to being military keynesian or any keynesian,
but look at the bottom line not the advertising.

Psychopaths. "Elite deviants".

For a detailed rebuttal of superficial propaganda, in terms of
economics and economic history and history of political economy,
Vanity of the Philosopher by Sandra Peart and David Levy.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Mary Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> I was contemplating this notion of "power" that these guys have. 
> They seem to think that they are powerful because they can rape, tape,
> murder, cripple, maim, blow people/buildings up  Any idiot can do
> those things.  When Ted Bundy does it we call him a serial killer
and he gets juiced.  When (pick a name) does it we call it power - 
and sometimes call them "Sir".   
> 
> Destruction
> is easy.  Rebuilding a building is not rocket science.  Rebuilding
> people is something altogether different and it's not something these
> clowns can do: that's powerful stuff, too powerful for those guys. 
> Christ didn't blow things up, didn't rape, didn't kill, maybe built a
> building or two because he was the son of a carpenter.  Christ's power,
> in my opinion, came from building people; from the inside out.  
> 
> Christ
> was not afraid of anyone knowing who he was.  Every single one of these
> so-called "powerful" people fear being found out and they use whatever
> means at their disposal to make sure their false image is preserved. 
> They're not powerful, they're pitiful.  
> 
> How much money/power
> does it take to buy back your soul?!   If you believe in God (by any
> name) you know he doesn't accept Mastercard, Visa, or American Express. 
> The only thing we all take with us is our soul.  Mine is not white, but
> it is certainly not "black" and I can honestly say that in my lifetime
> I have built a great deal in the places where it matters - inside
> others.      
>




[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Morgan Stanley Said to Be in Talks to Sell Stake to China’s CIC

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
The stock must have dropped because investors don't like either the
China or Wachovia news. Morgan=Stanley and Goldman-Sachs posted a
profit, and that was the other news at this time. You would think that
investors and traders would flock to Morgan-Stanley, as if from AIG,
and grab a life preserver while the Titanic sinks in the background.
Which is it, Yellow Peril, or the idea that Morgan-Stanley's profits
would be poured down a hole with Wachovia.

I had not regarded Wachovia as primarily an investment bank or
brokerage. I thought Wachovia was only enough of a brokerage to hold
stocks as collateral for loans. How would a merger be positive for
Morgan-Stanley? Isn't Wachovia just another bank, in trouble with
mortgages?

-Bob

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> >
> > Morgan Stanley Said to Be in Talks to Sell Stake to China's CIC
> >
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> > Bloomberg
> > Thursday, Sept 18, 2008
> >
> > Morgan Stanley, the second-biggest U.S. securities firm, is  
> > considering selling a larger stake to China Investment Corp. and is  
> > in talks about a possible merger with Wachovia Corp., said a person  
> > familiar with the matter.
> >
> > China Investment Corp., the state-controlled investment fund, bought  
> > a 9.9 percent stake in Morgan Stanley in December after the New York- 
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> > could buy as much as 49 percent of Morgan Stanley, said the person,  
> > who declined to be identified because the talks aren't public and  
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> >
> > John Mack, Morgan Stanley's chief executive officer, got a call from  
> > Wachovia yesterday indicating interest, said a person with knowledge  
> > of the matter. Talks about a deal with Wachovia have "advanced,"  
> > CNBC reported.
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
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[cia-drugs] Re: FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH

2008-09-18 Thread norgesen
  44844 Re: [cia-drugs] FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH 
  ... relationship between Sigmund Freud and his American nephew, Edward 
Bernays. Bernays invented the public relations profession in the 1920s ... 
Freud who followed in the footsteps of his relation, Edward Bernays, the 
inventor of public relations in the 1920s. The politicians ..  roscoe drummond
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  bull_dog.dru...
 Sep 17, 2008 
  9:58 am  
  44841 Re: [cia-drugs] FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH 
  ... relationship between Sigmund Freud and his American nephew, Edward 
Bernays. Bernays invented the public relations profession in the 1920s ... 
mind. Sigmund Freud's daughter, Anna, and his nephew, Edward Bernays, provided 
the centrepiece philosophy. The US government, big ...  RoadsEnd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  rdzend
 Sep 17, 2008 
  1:00 am  
  42518 Listen Up, Eye Rollers! 
  ... atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable 
capacity for not even hearing about them." [11] Austrian-born Edward Bernays, 
master of manipulation, was head of the CPI's Export Section and co-head of the 
Latin American Section of the Foreign Press ...  norgesen
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  norgesen
 Dec 25, 2007 
  9:59 am  
  40603 The True Story of 9-11 
  ... ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward 
Bernays: "Propaganda," 1928 [3] "Some of the biggest men in the United ... 
suggested, largely by men we have never heard of."[12] Edward Bernays referred 
to an invisible government. Does the U.S. have "an ...  norgesen
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  norgesen
 Jul 10, 2007 
  10:33 am  
  40064 The True Story of 9-11 [Dr. Stanley Monteith] 
  ... ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward 
Bernays: "Propaganda," 1928 [3] "Some of the biggest men in the United ... 
World War III," The Seattle Times, July 15, 2006. 3. Edward Bernays, 
Propaganda, Horace Liveright, New York, 1928, pp. 9-10. 4 ...  norgesen
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  norgesen
 Jun 5, 2007 
  9:10 am  
  39440 Re: The Iraq war, oil, and world government 
  ... European Economic Community. This approach began almost a hundred 
years ago, at about the time Sigmund Freud's nephew, Edward Bernays, authored 
PROPAGANDA (1928), in which he boasted that they could "manipulate the 
organized habits and opinions of the masses ...  muckblit
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  muckblit
 Apr 17, 2007 
  8:49 am  
  39436 Re: [cia-drugs] The Iraq war, oil, and world government 
  ... European Economic Community. This approach began almost a hundred 
years ago, at about the time Sigmund Freud's nephew, Edward Bernays, authored 
PROPAGANDA (1928), in which he boasted that they could "manipulate the 
organized habits and opinions of the masses ...  Sumerian..
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  sumerian100
 Apr 16, 2007 
  10:26 pm  
  39422 The Iraq war, oil, and world government 
  ... European Economic Community. This approach began almost a hundred 
years ago, at about the time Sigmund Freud's nephew, Edward Bernays, authored 
PROPAGANDA (1928), in which he boasted that they could "manipulate the 
organized habits and opinions of the masses ...  norgesen
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  norgesen
 Apr 16, 2007 
  10:27 am  
  37212 The Manipulations of Dominionism 
  ... administration public health campaign to get the American public to 
accept water fluoridation. The architect of this campaign was Edward Bernays, a 
nephew of Sigmund Freud, who had authored a 1928 book entitled Propaganda. 
Bernays wrote that politicians and businessmen ...  norgesen
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  norgesen
 Nov 16, 2006 
  8:28 am  
  36939 Religion and World Government, Part 1 
  ... emphasizing the need for social action and service. Does this sound 
like the words of the "father of public opinion," Edward Bernays (Sigmund 
Freud's nephew), who wrote in PROPAGANDA (1928) that in the future there would 
be a businessman/politician who would ... 


  34116 Michael Jackson, Mind Control Victim? 
  ... group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses 
according to our will without their knowing it." - Edward Bernays "The more we 
do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it." - Dr. Joseph Mengele 
"No matter how paranoid or conspiracy ...  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mar 11, 2006 
  10:39 am  
  32711 Bird Flu Drug War Outs Chickens (Again) 
  ... new mass program, whether it is a war, a mass inoculation, or the 
newest security game. The persuasive techniques of Edward L Bernays have been 
well learned indeed. [1] To that end, media will paint the grimmest possible 
scenario, quoting the most frightening ...  Bob
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  muckblit
 Dec 3, 2005 
  11:02 am  
  32632 The Science of Coercion 
  ... mind became essential to assure mass, "democ

[cia-drugs] Fwd: Morgan Stanley Said to Be in Talks to Sell Stake to China’s CIC

2008-09-18 Thread Robert Millegan
Begin forwarded message:From: "Sardar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: September 18, 2008 2:17:58 PM PDTTo: "Sardar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Morgan Stanley Said to Be in Talks to Sell Stake to China’s CIC  Morgan Stanley Said to Be in Talks to Sell Stake to China’s CICChristine HarperBloombergThursday, Sept 18, 2008Morgan Stanley, the second-biggest U.S. securities firm, is considering selling a larger stake to China Investment Corp. and is in talks about a possible merger with Wachovia Corp., said a person familiar with the matter.China Investment Corp., the state-controlled investment fund, bought a 9.9 percent stake in Morgan Stanley in December after the New York-based investment bank reported a quarterly loss. The Chinese fund could buy as much as 49 percent of Morgan Stanley, said the person, who declined to be identified because the talks aren’t public and may end in no agreement.John Mack, Morgan Stanley’s chief executive officer, got a call from Wachovia yesterday indicating interest, said a person with knowledge of the matter. Talks about a deal with Wachovia have “advanced,” CNBC reported.(Article continues below)The New York-based firm is also seeking ways to limit short sales of its stock, the person said.Morgan Stanley’s shares slid for an eighth consecutive day, down $1.84, or 8.5 percent, to $19.91 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading at 9:52 a.m.( a..The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:Shortcut to: http://www.prisonplanet.com/morgan-stanley-said-to-be-in-talks-to-sell-stake-to-chinas-cic.htmlNote: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments.  Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. =


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[cia-drugs] PLEASE PUBLISH THIS LIST OF POLITICIANS WHO GOT MONEY FROM FANNIE FREDDIE

2008-09-18 Thread scott munson



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PLEASE PUBLISH THIS LIST OF POLITICIANS WHO GOT MONEY FROM FANNIE  
FREDDIE


Posted By: Rayelan 
Date: Tuesday, 16 September 2008, 1:58 a.m.
Hi,

please publish this list of politicians that got money from Fannie/ 
Freddie...wonder
if they would be willing to give the money back...it seems that they  
used these

Institutions as a "cookie jar"..

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and- 
freddie.html


Thank You!

Iren

Update: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Invest in Lawmakers
Published by Lindsay Renick Mayer on September 11, 2008 11:26 AM |  
Permalink | Comments (7)


When the federal government announced two months ago that it would  
prop up mortgage buyers Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, CRP looked at how  
much money members of Congress had collected since 1989 from the  
companies. On Sunday the government completely took over the two  
government-sponsored enterprises, and we've returned to our data to  
bring you the updates, this time providing a list of all 354  
lawmakers who have gotten money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (in  
July we posted the top 25). These totals are based on data released  
electronically from the FEC on Sept. 2 and include contributions to  
lawmakers' leadership PACs and candidate committees from the  
floundering companies' PACs and employees. Current members of  
Congress have received a total of $4.8 million from Fannie Mae and  
Freddie Mac, with Democrats collecting 57 percent of that. This week  
we also wrote about how much money lawmakers had invested of their  
own money in the companies last year--a total of up to $1.7 million.


All Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions,  
1989-2008


Note from Rayelan... the list of Congresspeople who received money  
from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is astounding... you have to click  
through and see for yourself... here's all that I could copy in one  
shot the full list is 4 times this long!!


http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and- 
freddie.html




Note from Rayelan:

Hi Iren,

I actually published the forerunner to this article on the 11th when  
it first came out. However, I made a mistake and posted it in a  
private area of our website... The Agent's Lounge... I didn't realize  
that I had posted it there for several days, and by then... I thought  
it was old news... so I didn't post it in the Reading Room.


Thank you for bringing the new article to my attention, it allows me  
to post the original article because it is important information.


TAKEOVER OF FANNIE MAE & FREDDIE MAC HITS CONGRESS IN THEIR PERSONAL  
WALLETS


Posted By: RumorMail
Date: Thursday, 11 September 2008, 3:04 a.m.

Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Takeover Costs Congressmen Who Were Invested

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/congressmen-may-have-lost-17- 
m.html< A>>


Published by Lindsay Renick Mayer on September 10, 2008 11:40 AM |  
Permalink | Comments (0)


Now that the federal government has bailed out Fannie Mae and Freddie  
Mac from their impending financial doom, Congress has an even greater  
interest in seeing the giant mortgage buyers succeed--some lawmakers  
perhaps more than others. According to the Center for Responsive  
Politics, 28 lawmakers had between $598,100 and $1.7 million of their  
own money invested in the two companies last year.


Of them, 12 members of Congress owned between $60,800 and $246,700 of  
stock in the two companies, which is practically worthless now that  
the government has seized Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to keep them  
afloat as more of their customers default on their mortgages. Other  
lawmakers, however, have investments that are still of value.


Seventeen members of Congress reported holding bonds in at least one  
of the companies, which are protected, in 2007, worth between  
$537,400 and $1.5 million. (Lawmakers disclose their finances in  
ranges, annually, making it difficult to determine their assets'  
precise values.) Rep. Mary Bono (R-Calif.) held bonds in the  
companies worth between $126,050 and $365,000, making her investments  
in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae more valuable than those of any other  
member of congress.











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[cia-drugs] Ron Paul Blasts Secret Government Running Economy

2008-09-18 Thread scott munson

From: "GeorgiaAnn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: September 18, 2008 12:17:03 PM PDT
To: 
Subject: [ctrl] Ron Paul Blasts "Secret Government" Running Economy
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ron Paul Blasts “Secret Government” Running Economy Congressman warns  
middle class in danger of being wiped out, says Congress is oblivious  
and Fed has no clue  Steve Watson, Sept 18, 2008



Congressman Ron Paul has issued a stinging address concerning the  
financial crisis in which he outlines how the current economic  
problems, created via malinvestment and shift to a debt based  
economy, are now being mismanaged by private interests in secret.


What’s more he says he is not sure the Federal Reserve has any idea  
what to do next and that the Congress is totally oblivious to the  
whole sorry state of affairs - a cocktail of elements he warns puts  
the middle class of America in serious jeopardy.


“Today we had a lot of financial fireworks in the markets, a lot of  
things are going on, and I think we are in the middle of something  
very big.” the Congressman stated.


Speaking on the recent collapse and government bailout of several big  
financial institutions he warned:


“We’re talking about big bucks, we’re not talking about hundreds of  
millions or even hundreds of billions, we’re talking about trillions  
of dollars, the obligation is immeasurable.”


“The interesting thing is that they (the financial institutions)  
don’t come to the Congress, I mean the Federal Reserve buys them out,  
they own it. We as tax payers now own Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and  
know one knows how much that will cost. They don’t come to the  
Congress, we don’t have appropriations, it’s done by secret  
government, private individuals behind the scenes maneuvering and  
manipulating and trying to patch things up. While in the meantime,  
I’m sure there’s a few people making a couple of bucks out of this  
whole thing.”


The Congressman highlighted how an economy structured on debt and  
credit and a financial system based on interventionism and self  
serving moral hazard has led to gross devaluation of the dollar and  
ultimately lies at the root of the current financial meltdown.


“Our problems come first of all from the Federal Reserve. It is a  
monopoly and it controls interest rates artificially low, causes  
people to make mistakes, that’s the basic source. But then on top of  
that in the Housing market we had the community reinvestment act  
which told investors that they had to loan to risky borrowers, and  
that was a risky complication. HUD contributes to this, FDIC  
contributes, it’s called moral hazard, everything that we have done  
over here creates moral hazard, that is we assure people or assume  
that we will take care of everybody, just go out and create the risk,  
it is the opposite of the market place.” Paul stated.


“You can’t create money like we’re doing in order to support the  
dollar, because ultimately it hurts the dollar and everything we do  
in Washington today whether its on the appropriations side, whether  
it’s what the Fed is doing, buying up America, it’s all putting  
pressure on the dollar. One of these days we’re just going to have to  
wake up and say that we need to liquidate debt. This is  
malinvestment.” he urged.


The Congressman then slammed those who have blamed the crisis on  
failures of the free market:


“And then they have people come along and say ’see, this is the  
failure of capitalism’, this has nothing to do with capitalism, this  
is something that started off as interventionism and us being too  
involved in the economy for the benefit of special interests. But now  
it is being socialized out in the open.”


“The end of this comes when people reject the dollar and I think  
we’re getting awfully close to this.” Paul stated echoing comments  
from leading investors such as Jim Rogers, who predicted Monday that  
the dollar would soon lose its world reserve status.


“When you see the movement in the markets that we have today, you  
know that there are serious problems out there and Congress basically  
are oblivious, they have no idea what’s going on.” Paul continued.


“As a matter of fact I’m not even sure the Federal Reserve has any  
idea what to do about this. They’ve been manipulating and maneuvering  
for their own benefit over the years but eventually the market wins  
out.”


The Congressman’s comments were echoed today by reports indicating  
that the Congress cannot agree on any form of action and is likely to  
simply adjourn and “get out of the way”.


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told reporters that “no one knows  
what to do”.


In a stark warning, Ron Paul stressed that the longer the value of  
the dollar is allowed to depreciate, the greater the risk becomes for  
the majority of Americans:


“The reason this is so important is that if you care about people in  
a humanitarian sense, what you want to do is protect the value of the  
mon

Re: [cia-drugs] Re: FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH

2008-09-18 Thread Mary Hartman
Bob.  

Thanks!  

--- On Thu, 9/18/08, muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:21 PM











Another dead message carcase accomplishing nothing but another

content-free scrolldown by Roscoe. We don't want another scrolldown war.



The rest of us recognize that "Bernays" and "advertising" are familiar

keywords indexing into our vast database of common knowledge.



Have you heard of Ed Lansdale? Chomsky's Manufactured Consent? How

about Orwell?



Actually a yahoogroups search on Bernays did not return any hits.

That's not right. I do not suspect overt censorship, but rather when

yahoogroups cut off fifteen years of our work that must have cut off

Bernays.



-Bob



http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cia- drugs/message/ 44855



--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, roscoe drummond

 wrote:

>

>  Assuming that you read and understood the article, I should think

that your response to what you went to the trouble of placing on this

group site would be of interest to others. That is again, assuming

that you read, understood, and were willing to "open-up" and share

your personal views.




  




 

















  

[cia-drugs] The definition of power....?

2008-09-18 Thread Mary Hartman

I was contemplating this notion of "power" that these guys have. 
They seem to think that they are powerful because they can rape, tape,
murder, cripple, maim, blow people/buildings up  Any idiot can do
those things.  When Ted Bundy does it we call him a serial killer and he gets 
juiced.  When (pick a name) does it we call it power -  and sometimes call them 
"Sir".   

Destruction
is easy.  Rebuilding a building is not rocket science.  Rebuilding
people is something altogether different and it's not something these
clowns can do: that's powerful stuff, too powerful for those guys. 
Christ didn't blow things up, didn't rape, didn't kill, maybe built a
building or two because he was the son of a carpenter.  Christ's power,
in my opinion, came from building people; from the inside out.  

Christ
was not afraid of anyone knowing who he was.  Every single one of these
so-called "powerful" people fear being found out and they use whatever
means at their disposal to make sure their false image is preserved. 
They're not powerful, they're pitiful.  

How much money/power
does it take to buy back your soul?!   If you believe in God (by any
name) you know he doesn't accept Mastercard, Visa, or American Express. 
The only thing we all take with us is our soul.  Mine is not white, but
it is certainly not "black" and I can honestly say that in my lifetime
I have built a great deal in the places where it matters - inside
others.       




  

Re: [cia-drugs] Re: A question re:phone look-ups.

2008-09-18 Thread Mary Hartman
That makes sense in a really scary kind of way.  I suspect it is a number to 
the CIA guy in our Department of Public Safety since it is a St. Paul area 
code.  

--- On Thu, 9/18/08, muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: A question re:phone look-ups.
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:25 PM











Something about faxing exposed what is happening to all of your

outgoing phone calls. They connect to that number and then it dials

out but not on faxes, so it gets logged before covering its tracks.



That's my theory.



Everybody here with a tapped phone just try to replicate and report

back at 11:00am EST.



-Bob



--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Mary Hartman  wrote:

>

> Went to a different location and lo and behold, the fax went through

to the correct number.  

> I've asked a retired PI to consult with the agency he used to get

fax/phone ID's.  Hopefully they'll come up with a name.

> 

> At this point, "odd" is the new normal.

> 

> 

> 

> - Original Message 

> From: Vigilius Haufniensis 

> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com

> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:28:01 PM

> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] A question re:phone look-ups.

> 

> 

> That's definitely odd.  Call Pawlenty's office and tell them this.  Ask

> them where it's going.  I've found Pawlenty's people to actually be

> helpful and responsive, although of course, I've never uncovered the

> type of stuff you have.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Mary Hartman wrote: 

> Hi, 

> 

> I wanted to send a fax to Governor Pawlenty and it won't go

> through.  I dial in the number given to me when I called his office,

651-215-3877, but my

> fax display shows that it is being sent to 651-296-6362.  A reverse

phone

> look up takes me as far as St. Paul, but that's it.  Do any of you know

> how I can trace the number to the owner.because my fax is obviously

> getting re-directed and I'd like to know who it is going to.

> 

> Thanks.

>




  




 

















  

Re: [cia-drugs] Re: A question re:phone look-ups.

2008-09-18 Thread Mary Hartman
US Attorney confirmed taps/eavesdropping in March of 03.  I was told, in July 
of 02, that if I wasn't careful my whole house would be wired for sound.  I 
laughed.who would want to listen to me?

When Emily was in the hospital and the pediatric infectious disease specialist 
came in to discuss her medical history and the possibility of severe reactions 
to anti-biotics/rabies vaccine he said the risk to her was high.  Tom said, 
"Then this is easy,  The cat has to die."  That was said, in our child's 
hospital room, and yet Christine Chandler (apparently not her real name) posted 
his comment on the internet and made it sound like a vengeful statement.  
Cat/child.  We chose to protect our daughter.  No vengeance there, just common 
sense.  

Law enforcement tried to charge me and another of Kraft's victims with 
harassment/stalking after we witnessed them assault my friends son and another 
guy - home from his second tour in Iraq.  Clyde calls 911 several times on my 
phone.  When my signal is lost he uses one registered to his son.  ALL 911 
records disappeared from my phone bill and all recordings of Clydes calls to 
dispatch are destroyed/hidden.  Oops!  Clyde's sons phone bill shows two calls, 
one which lasted several minutes.  Where's the tape?  Sheriff says they keep 
all 911 recordings for one year but for some reason, this one is gone.  

FBI has been doing this type of crap for years.  And now, in Minnesota, our 
Sheriff left to go head up the project to build the radio towers that will 
monitor and control all wireless communications.  Phones, computers.Hitler 
should have had it this good!

--- On Thu, 9/18/08, muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: A question re:phone look-ups.
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:55 PM











Before the anthrax killed in Florida, FBI confiscated all the mail 
for

a week in Bird's Nest, Virginia, which might mean they were looking

for anthrax mailed between New Jersey and Virginia Beach by the Boston

arabs they had arrested the morning of 9/11 in Chesapeake.



Or, they were caching legend for possible need for fallback.



Anyway they were doing something strange with communication.



-Bob



--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Vigilius Haufniensis

 wrote:

>

> Interesting.  I had something very similar happen to my email when I

was 

> attempting to not get racketeered by the local police, court clerk, etc.

> 

> 

> 

> muckblit wrote:

> > Something about faxing exposed what is happening to all of your

> > outgoing phone calls. They connect to that number and then it dials

> > out but not on faxes, so it gets logged before covering its tracks.

> >

> > That's my theory.

> >

> > Everybody here with a tapped phone just try to replicate and report

> > back at 11:00am EST.

> >

> > -Bob

> >

> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Mary Hartman  wrote:

> >   

> >> Went to a different location and lo and behold, the fax went through

> >> 

> > to the correct number.  

> >   

> >> I've asked a retired PI to consult with the agency he used to get

> >> 

> > fax/phone ID's.  Hopefully they'll come up with a name.

> >   

> >> At this point, "odd" is the new normal.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> - Original Message 

> >> From: Vigilius Haufniensis 

> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com

> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:28:01 PM

> >> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] A question re:phone look-ups.

> >>

> >>

> >> That's definitely odd.  Call Pawlenty's office and tell them

this.  Ask

> >> them where it's going.  I've found Pawlenty's people to actually be

> >> helpful and responsive, although of course, I've never uncovered the

> >> type of stuff you have.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mary Hartman wrote: 

> >> Hi, 

> >>

> >> I wanted to send a fax to Governor Pawlenty and it won't go

> >> through.  I dial in the number given to me when I called his office,

> >> 

> > 651-215-3877, but my

> >   

> >> fax display shows that it is being sent to 651-296-6362.  A reverse

> >> 

> > phone

> >   

> >> look up takes me as far as St. Paul, but that's it.  Do any of

you know

> >> how I can trace the number to the owner.because my fax is

obviously

> >> getting re-directed and I'd like to know who it is going to.

> >>

> >> Thanks.

> >>

> >> 

> >

> >

> >

> >  - - --

> >

> > Complete archives at http://www.sitbot. net/

> >

> > Please let us stay on topic and be civil. 

> >

> > OM

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>




  




 

















  

[cia-drugs] Re: Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
October 1 is the first day of October Surprise month.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  [work_democracy] Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:55:30 -0400
> From: Robert Busser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To:   
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/0...eland_090708w/ 
> 
> 
> *Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
> *
> 3rd Infantry?s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping 
> ?people at home? may become a permanent part of the active Army
> By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
> Posted : Monday Sep 8, 2008 6:15:06 EDT
> 
> The 3rd Infantry Division?s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the 
> last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping
restore 
> essential services and escorting supply convoys.
> 
> Now they?re training for the same mission ? with a twist ? at home.
> 
> Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the
day-to-day 
> control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern 
> Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade 
> emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.
> 
> It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at 
> home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed
hell 
> in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled
from 
> various posts and mobilized to those areas.
> 
> But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given 
> a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 
> to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and 
> coordinate defense support of civil authorities.
> 
> After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that 
> another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that
the 
> mission will be a permanent one.
> 
> ?Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. 
> How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not 
> they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the 
> future,? said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future 
> operations. ?Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.?
> 
> The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., 
> but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in 
> Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where 
> they?ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and 
> train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency 
> mission in the war zones.
> 
> Stop-loss will not be in effect, so soldiers will be able to leave the 
> Army or move to new assignments during the mission, and the operational 
> tempo will be variable.
> 
> Don?t look for any extra time off, though. The at-home mission does not 
> take the place of scheduled combat-zone deployments and will take place 
> during the so-called dwell time a unit gets to reset and regenerate 
> after a deployment.
> 
> The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or 
> Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home 
> a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.
> 
> In the meantime, they?ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they 
> acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while 
> doing any of it.
> 
> They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or 
> to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning 
> and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear 
> or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.
> 
> Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and 
> includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the ?jaws of life? 
> to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training
for a 
> CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on
how to 
> go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.
> 
> The 1st BCT?s soldiers also will learn how to use ?the first ever 
> nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,? 1st BCT commander Col. 
> Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment 
> and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous
individuals 
> without killing them.
> 
> ?It?s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they?re 
> fielding. They?ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the
first 
> time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and 
> because of this mission we?re undertaking we were the first to get it.?
> 
> The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike 
> strips for slowing, stopping or contro

[cia-drugs] Re: A question re:phone look-ups.

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
Before the anthrax killed in Florida, FBI confiscated all the mail for
a week in Bird's Nest, Virginia, which might mean they were looking
for anthrax mailed between New Jersey and Virginia Beach by the Boston
arabs they had arrested the morning of 9/11 in Chesapeake.

Or, they were caching legend for possible need for fallback.

Anyway they were doing something strange with communication.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Interesting.  I had something very similar happen to my email when I
was 
> attempting to not get racketeered by the local police, court clerk, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> muckblit wrote:
> > Something about faxing exposed what is happening to all of your
> > outgoing phone calls. They connect to that number and then it dials
> > out but not on faxes, so it gets logged before covering its tracks.
> >
> > That's my theory.
> >
> > Everybody here with a tapped phone just try to replicate and report
> > back at 11:00am EST.
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> > --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Mary Hartman  wrote:
> >   
> >> Went to a different location and lo and behold, the fax went through
> >> 
> > to the correct number.  
> >   
> >> I've asked a retired PI to consult with the agency he used to get
> >> 
> > fax/phone ID's.  Hopefully they'll come up with a name.
> >   
> >> At this point, "odd" is the new normal.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message 
> >> From: Vigilius Haufniensis 
> >> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:28:01 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] A question re:phone look-ups.
> >>
> >>
> >> That's definitely odd.  Call Pawlenty's office and tell them
this.  Ask
> >> them where it's going.  I've found Pawlenty's people to actually be
> >> helpful and responsive, although of course, I've never uncovered the
> >> type of stuff you have.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mary Hartman wrote: 
> >> Hi, 
> >>
> >> I wanted to send a fax to Governor Pawlenty and it won't go
> >> through.  I dial in the number given to me when I called his office,
> >> 
> > 651-215-3877, but my
> >   
> >> fax display shows that it is being sent to 651-296-6362.  A reverse
> >> 
> > phone
> >   
> >> look up takes me as far as St. Paul, but that's it.  Do any of
you know
> >> how I can trace the number to the owner.because my fax is
obviously
> >> getting re-directed and I'd like to know who it is going to.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> 
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/
> >
> > Please let us stay on topic and be civil. 
> >
> > OM
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




[cia-drugs] Re: FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
Correction, that's "GOOD" and "our" souls.

"Darwin and Plato who are enthroned by the neocon belief that the love
of
money is the root of all evil[GOOD]. Therefore, we must purge ourselves
of
unregulated sympathy by our zeal in purging others of unapproved
sympathy. If we baptize others with white phosphorus, there exists the
hope that we may not need whiskey pete to take unregulated sympathy
out of [OUR] souls"

Does the devil's advocate make a little more nonsense that way?

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "muckblit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
By "truce", do you mean the several days when the troops crossed No
Man's Land and fraternized, at Christmas probably, and expected that
the war could not restart?

A few weeks ago I re-read my grandmother's brother's book, looked at
his photos, from the front line in WW1. He was really fried but held
it together magnificently. Another pastime of kings. A general spoke
of the US Civil War as "the pageant is (finally!) over".

Rather than fraternize with the enemy, toward the end of the Swedish
experience with stupid kings' pageants, the Finnish draftees protested
in a new way. They chased down and slaughtered all the professional
soldiers on the other side. Something got through to the Swedish about
stupid king's wars about that time and they have not bothered the
world since, but the oligarchy came back with another pendulum swing.
The Bernays types leveraged what the Finns did into idealogical war.
Later the Rand thinktank came up with a tool to get people to
fight,"Use religion". Religion, beyond idealogy, nuclear ideology. Now
we have neocon neolib economic theory become religion, taking us all
the way to a belief that the love of money is the root of all GOOD. We
already had Orwell, killing to save, and now we kills to save from
"unregulated sympathy". We also kill to save OURSELVES from
"unregulated sympathy", like an exercise in scientologist exorcism.
Unregulated sympathy would be treason against Darwin, and it is Darwin
and Plato who are enthroned by the neocon belief that the love of
money is the root of all evil. Therefore, we must purge ourselves of
unregulated sympathy by our zeal in purging others of unapproved
sympathy. If we baptize others with white phosphorus, there exists the
hope that we may not need whiskey pete to take unregulated sympathy
out of souls. Those we baptize with white phosphorus will not have a
lot of unregulated sympathy for us, one supposes, and that too, might
serve Darwin to suppress any counter to the love of money, root of all
GOOD.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
<../../../../post?postID=FARi6XHoxnM2HKGMNCU6BmCM9BJBqJivdAI954uf8A33d7X\
r5GsOjqcg2frcwt1lQ5GXqkBns8FjCDnQ-Gw4Le4> , Bob Donatelle
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bernays was the architect of the Creel Commission---which got the
USA into WW1 just as a truce was underway.
>
> The Creel Commission was a PR group that worked up the American
people to hate Germans---so that they would be willing to go to
war---which they did---and the devastating defeat of Germany with the
subsequent Treaty of Versailles crushed Germany so severely that it
paved the road for Hitler.
>
> So we can thank Bernays for creating Hitler.
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: roscoe drummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
<../../../../post?postID=FARi6XHoxnM2HKGMNCU6BmCM9BJBqJivdAI954uf8A33d7X\
r5GsOjqcg2frcwt1lQ5GXqkBns8FjCDnQ-Gw4Le4>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:15:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH
>
>
> Okay "RoadsEnd",, why don't you now tell us what was, in your
words, very good about it.
>
>
>
>
>
> RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
> Tis very good.
>
> Peace,
> K
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis wrote:
>
> Haven't seen this yet, but it looks good. -Vmann
>
>
> http://tracker.   conspiracycentra l.net/torrents-
details.php? id=1777
>
> The Century Of The Self - Part 1of4
> Happiness Machines
>
> The story of the relationship between Sigmund Freud and his American
nephew, Edward Bernays. Bernays invented the public relations
profession in the 1920s and was the first person to take Freud's ideas
to manipulate the masses. He showed American corporations how they
could make people want things they didn't need by systematically
linking mass-produced goods to their unconscious desires.
>
> Bernays was one of the main architects of the modern techniques of
mass-consumer persuasion, using every trick in the book, from
celebrity endorsement and outrageous PR stunts, to eroticising the
motorcar.
>
> His most notorious coup was breaking the taboo on women smoking by
persuading them that cigarettes were a symbol of independence and
freedom. But Bernays was convinced that this was more than just a way
of selling consumer goods. It was a new political idea of how to
control the masses. By satisfying the inner irrational desires that
his uncle had identified, people could be mad

Re: [cia-drugs] Re: A question re:phone look-ups.

2008-09-18 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis
Interesting.  I had something very similar happen to my email when I was 
attempting to not get racketeered by the local police, court clerk, etc.




muckblit wrote:

Something about faxing exposed what is happening to all of your
outgoing phone calls. They connect to that number and then it dials
out but not on faxes, so it gets logged before covering its tracks.

That's my theory.

Everybody here with a tapped phone just try to replicate and report
back at 11:00am EST.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Mary Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Went to a different location and lo and behold, the fax went through

to the correct number.  
  

I've asked a retired PI to consult with the agency he used to get


fax/phone ID's.  Hopefully they'll come up with a name.
  

At this point, "odd" is the new normal.



- Original Message 
From: Vigilius Haufniensis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:28:01 PM
Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] A question re:phone look-ups.


That's definitely odd.  Call Pawlenty's office and tell them this.  Ask
them where it's going.  I've found Pawlenty's people to actually be
helpful and responsive, although of course, I've never uncovered the
type of stuff you have.




Mary Hartman wrote: 
Hi, 


I wanted to send a fax to Governor Pawlenty and it won't go
through.  I dial in the number given to me when I called his office,


651-215-3877, but my
  

fax display shows that it is being sent to 651-296-6362.  A reverse


phone
  

look up takes me as far as St. Paul, but that's it.  Do any of you know
how I can trace the number to the owner.because my fax is obviously
getting re-directed and I'd like to know who it is going to.

Thanks.








Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/

Please let us stay on topic and be civil. 


OM
Yahoo! Groups Links




  




[cia-drugs] Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1

2008-09-18 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis



 Original Message 
Subject:[work_democracy] Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
Date:   Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:55:30 -0400
From:   Robert Busser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 



http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/0...eland_090708w/ 



*Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
*
3rd Infantry?s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping 
?people at home? may become a permanent part of the active Army

By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Sep 8, 2008 6:15:06 EDT

The 3rd Infantry Division?s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the 
last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore 
essential services and escorting supply convoys.


Now they?re training for the same mission ? with a twist ? at home.

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day 
control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern 
Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade 
emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.


It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at 
home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell 
in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from 
various posts and mobilized to those areas.


But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given 
a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 
to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and 
coordinate defense support of civil authorities.


After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that 
another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the 
mission will be a permanent one.


?Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. 
How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not 
they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the 
future,? said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future 
operations. ?Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.?


The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., 
but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in 
Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where 
they?ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and 
train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency 
mission in the war zones.


Stop-loss will not be in effect, so soldiers will be able to leave the 
Army or move to new assignments during the mission, and the operational 
tempo will be variable.


Don?t look for any extra time off, though. The at-home mission does not 
take the place of scheduled combat-zone deployments and will take place 
during the so-called dwell time a unit gets to reset and regenerate 
after a deployment.


The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or 
Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home 
a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.


In the meantime, they?ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they 
acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while 
doing any of it.


They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or 
to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning 
and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear 
or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.


Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and 
includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the ?jaws of life? 
to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a 
CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to 
go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.


The 1st BCT?s soldiers also will learn how to use ?the first ever 
nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,? 1st BCT commander Col. 
Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment 
and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals 
without killing them.


?It?s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they?re 
fielding. They?ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first 
time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and 
because of this mission we?re undertaking we were the first to get it.?


The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike 
strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; 
and, beanbag bullets.


?I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,? said Cloutier, 
describing the experience as ?your worst muscle cramp ever ? times 10 
throughout your whole body.


?I?m not a small guy, I weigh 230 pounds ... it put me on my knees in 
seconds.?


The brigade will not

[cia-drugs] Re: FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
By "truce", do you mean the several days when the troops crossed No
Man's Land and fraternized, at Christmas probably, and expected that
the war could not restart?

A few weeks ago I re-read my grandmother's brother's book, looked at
his photos, from the front line in WW1. He was really fried but held
it together magnificently. Another pastime of kings. A general spoke
of the US Civil War as "the pageant is (finally!) over".

Rather than fraternize with the enemy, toward the end of the Swedish
experience with stupid kings' pageants, the Finnish draftees protested
in a new way. They chased down and slaughtered all the professional
soldiers on the other side. Something got through to the Swedish about
stupid king's wars about that time and they have not bothered the
world since, but the oligarchy came back with another pendulum swing.
The Bernays types leveraged what the Finns did into idealogical war.
Later the Rand thinktank came up with a tool to get people to
fight,"Use religion". Religion, beyond idealogy, nuclear ideology. Now
we have neocon neolib economic theory become religion, taking us all
the way to a belief that the love of money is the root of all GOOD. We
already had Orwell, killing to save, and now we kills to save from
"unregulated sympathy". We also kill to save OURSELVES from
"unregulated sympathy", like an exercise in scientologist exorcism.
Unregulated sympathy would be treason against Darwin, and it is Darwin
and Plato who are enthroned by the neocon belief that the love of
money is the root of all evil. Therefore, we must purge ourselves of
unregulated sympathy by our zeal in purging others of unapproved
sympathy. If we baptize others with white phosphorus, there exists the
hope that we may not need whiskey pete to take unregulated sympathy
out of souls. Those we baptize with white phosphorus will not have a
lot of unregulated sympathy for us, one supposes, and that too, might
serve Darwin to suppress any counter to the love of money, root of all
GOOD.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Bob Donatelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bernays was the architect of the Creel Commission---which got the
USA into WW1 just as a truce was underway.
> 
> The Creel Commission was a PR group that worked up the American
people to hate Germans---so that they would be willing to go to
war---which they did---and the devastating defeat of Germany with the
subsequent Treaty of Versailles crushed Germany so severely that it
paved the road for Hitler.
> 
> So we can thank Bernays for creating Hitler.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: roscoe drummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:15:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH
> 
> 
> Okay "RoadsEnd",, why don't you now  tell us what was, in your
words, very good about it.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: 
> Tis very good.  
> 
> Peace, 
> K
> 
> 
> On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis wrote:
> 
> Haven't seen this yet, but it looks good.  -Vmann
> 
> 
> http://tracker. conspiracycentra l.net/torrents- details.php? id=1777
> 
> The Century Of The Self - Part 1of4
> Happiness Machines
> 
> The story of the relationship between Sigmund Freud and his American
nephew, Edward Bernays. Bernays invented the public relations
profession in the 1920s and was the first person to take Freud's ideas
to manipulate the masses. He showed American corporations how they
could make people want things they didn't need by systematically
linking mass-produced goods to their unconscious desires.
> 
> Bernays was one of the main architects of the modern techniques of
mass-consumer persuasion, using every trick in the book, from
celebrity endorsement and outrageous PR stunts, to eroticising the
motorcar.
> 
> His most notorious coup was breaking the taboo on women smoking by
persuading them that cigarettes were a symbol of independence and
freedom. But Bernays was convinced that this was more than just a way
of selling consumer goods. It was a new political idea of how to
control the masses. By satisfying the inner irrational desires that
his uncle had identified, people could be made happy and thus docile.
> 
> It was the start of the all-consuming self which has come to
dominate today's world.
> 
> http://tracker. conspiracycentra l.net/torrents- details.php? id=1778
> 
> The Century Of The Self - Part 2of4
> The Engineering of Consent
> 
> The programme explores how those in power in post-war America used
Freud's ideas about the unconscious mind to try and control the masses.
> 
> Politicians and planners came to believe Freud's underlying premise
- that deep within all human beings were dangerous and irrational
desires and fears. They were convinced that it was the unleashing of
these instincts that had led to the barbarism of Nazi Germany. To stop
it ever happening again they set out to find ways to control this
hidden enemy within the human mind.

[cia-drugs] Re: A question re:phone look-ups.

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
Something about faxing exposed what is happening to all of your
outgoing phone calls. They connect to that number and then it dials
out but not on faxes, so it gets logged before covering its tracks.

That's my theory.

Everybody here with a tapped phone just try to replicate and report
back at 11:00am EST.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Mary Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Went to a different location and lo and behold, the fax went through
to the correct number.  
> I've asked a retired PI to consult with the agency he used to get
fax/phone ID's.  Hopefully they'll come up with a name.
> 
> At this point, "odd" is the new normal.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Vigilius Haufniensis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:28:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] A question re:phone look-ups.
> 
> 
> That's definitely odd.  Call Pawlenty's office and tell them this.  Ask
> them where it's going.  I've found Pawlenty's people to actually be
> helpful and responsive, although of course, I've never uncovered the
> type of stuff you have.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mary Hartman wrote: 
> Hi, 
> 
> I wanted to send a fax to Governor Pawlenty and it won't go
> through.  I dial in the number given to me when I called his office,
651-215-3877, but my
> fax display shows that it is being sent to 651-296-6362.  A reverse
phone
> look up takes me as far as St. Paul, but that's it.  Do any of you know
> how I can trace the number to the owner.because my fax is obviously
> getting re-directed and I'd like to know who it is going to.
> 
> Thanks.
>




[cia-drugs] Re: FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH

2008-09-18 Thread muckblit
Another dead message carcase accomplishing nothing but another
content-free scrolldown by Roscoe. We don't want another scrolldown war.

The rest of us recognize that "Bernays" and "advertising" are familiar
keywords indexing into our vast database of common knowledge.

Have you heard of Ed Lansdale? Chomsky's Manufactured Consent? How
about Orwell?

Actually a yahoogroups search on Bernays did not return any hits.
That's not right. I do not suspect overt censorship, but rather when
yahoogroups cut off fifteen years of our work that must have cut off
Bernays.

-Bob

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/44855

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, roscoe drummond
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Assuming that you read and understood the article, I should think
that your response to what you went to the trouble of placing on this
group site would be of interest to others. That is again, assuming
that you read, understood, and were willing to "open-up" and share
your personal views.





[cia-drugs] Bush family cleaning up on transfer of public lands to private hands

2008-09-18 Thread scott munson

Bush family cleaning up on transfer of public lands to private hands
http://onlinejourna l.com/artman/ publish/article_ 3748.shtml

From: mary whalen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: September 17, 2008 8:16:52 PM PDT
To: "CanMexUSAinc yahoogroups.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [BushShouldHaveBeenImpeached] Bush family cleaning up on  
transfer of public lands to private hands

Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Let the people do what they want, you get Woodstock. Let the  
government do what it wants, you get WACO!Mary.
Subject: Bush family cleaning up on transfer of public lands to  
private hands


From: James Elmer
To: George W. Bush ; US Rep. Ron Paul MD (R) TX
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:30 PM
Subject: Bush family cleaning up on transfer of public lands to  
private hands


http://onlinejourna l.com/artman/ publish/article_ 3748.shtml

Special Reports Last Updated: Sep 16th, 2008 - 01:14:40

Bush family cleaning up on transfer of public lands to private hands
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer


Sep 16, 2008, 00:26

Email this article
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(WMR) -- WMR has learned from a senior Democratic congressional  
source that the Bush family, most notably former President George H.  
W. Bush, is reaping windfall profits from the transfer of title of  
public federal and state lands to private hands. The elder Bush,  
according to our sources, has a vested financial interest in land  
title companies that specialize in the transfer of public lands to  
private interests.


The revelations represent the first evidence that the elder Bush has  
benefited from the transfer of public lands to private hands in a  
giant scheme to defraud federal and state governments, as well as the  
American taxpayers and Native Americans.


The land-grabbing scheme primarily involves the transfer of federal  
lands, including Native American lands and national forest system  
lands, in the Rocky Mountain West, state lands in Texas, and both  
federal and state lands in California, Mississippi, and Florida to  
private entities. The scheme is also at the center of the scandal  
surrounding jailed GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff who conspired to  
privatize federal lands and assets around the country to benefit his  
corporate clients.


In 2004, under pressure from Abramoff and the White House, Senators  
Harry Reid (D-NV) and Jim Gibbons (R-NV) shepherded the passage of  
the Western Shoshone Distribution Act, which was quickly signed by  
President George W. Bush. The act settled federal violations of the  
Ruby Valley Treaty of 1863 with the Shoshones and compensated them a  
mere $135 million for 24 million acres of Shoshone land illegally  
seized by the federal government in Nevada, California, Utah, and  
Idaho. The Shoshones cried foul, saying their land is rich in gold  
reserves. Gibbons, who is now governor of Nevada, instantly moved  
legislation to privatize the former Shoshone lands. Reid, Gibbons,  
and Senator John Ensign (R-NV), all received lucrative cash  
contributions to their campaigns from Abramoff clients.


Bush White House official Jennifer Farley urged passage of the bill  
claiming that Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were personally  
interested in its enactment, further adding that the legislation was  
considered “hot.” Cheney paid a visit to Nevada as the Senate voted  
to pass the bill.


The Washington Post reported that Farley and Karl Rove were  
recipients of sporting event tickets from Abramoff’s assistant Kevin  
Ring, arrested and jailed this past week for his involvement in the  
Abramoff bribery scandal. Farley termed tickets as “fruit” in her  
conversations with Ring. Abramoff, already serving a prison sentence  
for a guilty verdict from a Florida case, received an additional four  
years in prison last week for his role in the scandal, which has  
tainted a number of Republicans in Congress, as well as senior  
members of the Bush administration. Tony Rudy, another Abramoff  
assistant and a former deputy chief of staff to former Texas  
Republican Representative Tom DeLay, pleaded guilty in the bribery  
scandal.


WMR has also learned that the Bush administration ordered a number of  
California and other Western state forest wildfires purposefully set  
with the intention of damaging and destroying federal and state  
forestlands, thus making them ripe for exploitation and sale to  
private interests. California Republican Representative John  
Doolittle, also under investigation in the Abramoff bribery scandal,  
promoted the passage of the Healthy Forests Restoration Act, which  
permitted national forests to be purposefully thinned by timber  
companies to make them less susceptible to the fires, exacerbated by  
global warming, that were being set by others within the Bush  
administration. The purposeful destruction of federal forests was  
carried out with the knowledge of top officials of the Interior  
Department under both Interior Secr

[cia-drugs] Youtube removed Ron Paul and the Fed Chairman video

2008-09-18 Thread scott munson

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: September 17, 2008 9:07:54 PM PDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [BushShouldHaveBeenImpeached] Youtube removed Ron Paul and  
the Fed Chairman  video

Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Now , in the last few days, Youtube decided to remove what is  
considered a terror Video. In fact any Video which says the truth  
might be at risk.


Check this link to see Videos removed: In fact more are at risk. I  
got the same message from other key Videos:


http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/262.html


National Gasoline pump price map
http://www.gasbuddy.com/GB_Map_Gas_Prices.aspx

Looting the USA. Fed to loan AIG $85 billion and take 80% stake in  
rescue

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/17/business/17insure.php

U.S.A. has been bankrupt before, in 1933
http://www.ratical.org/co-globalize/Stiglitz.html

Bushies Mislead Our Heroes: Post-9/11 NYC Air Falsely Declared "safe  
to breathe"-Bush History 9/18
The Bush administration misleads residents and rescuers in lower  
Manhattan on this date, just days after 9/11

http://poorgeorgesalmanac.com/?p=472

Re: [cia-drugs] FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH

2008-09-18 Thread Bob Donatelle
Bernays was the architect of the Creel Commission---which got the USA into WW1 
just as a truce was underway.

The Creel Commission was a PR group that worked up the American people to hate 
Germans---so that they would be willing to go to war---which they did---and the 
devastating defeat of Germany with the subsequent Treaty of Versailles crushed 
Germany so severely that it paved the road for Hitler.

So we can thank Bernays for creating Hitler.



- Original Message 
From: roscoe drummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:15:40 AM
Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] FREUD, BERNAYS AND REICH


Okay "RoadsEnd",, why don't you now  tell us what was, in your words, very good 
about it.



 

RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: 
Tis very good.  

Peace, 
K


On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis wrote:

Haven't seen this yet, but it looks good.  -Vmann


http://tracker. conspiracycentra l.net/torrents- details.php? id=1777

The Century Of The Self - Part 1of4
Happiness Machines

The story of the relationship between Sigmund Freud and his American nephew, 
Edward Bernays. Bernays invented the public relations profession in the 1920s 
and was the first person to take Freud's ideas to manipulate the masses. He 
showed American corporations how they could make people want things they didn't 
need by systematically linking mass-produced goods to their unconscious desires.

Bernays was one of the main architects of the modern techniques of 
mass-consumer persuasion, using every trick in the book, from celebrity 
endorsement and outrageous PR stunts, to eroticising the motorcar.

His most notorious coup was breaking the taboo on women smoking by persuading 
them that cigarettes were a symbol of independence and freedom. But Bernays was 
convinced that this was more than just a way of selling consumer goods. It was 
a new political idea of how to control the masses. By satisfying the inner 
irrational desires that his uncle had identified, people could be made happy 
and thus docile.

It was the start of the all-consuming self which has come to dominate today's 
world.

http://tracker. conspiracycentra l.net/torrents- details.php? id=1778

The Century Of The Self - Part 2of4
The Engineering of Consent

The programme explores how those in power in post-war America used Freud's 
ideas about the unconscious mind to try and control the masses.

Politicians and planners came to believe Freud's underlying premise - that deep 
within all human beings were dangerous and irrational desires and fears. They 
were convinced that it was the unleashing of these instincts that had led to 
the barbarism of Nazi Germany. To stop it ever happening again they set out to 
find ways to control this hidden enemy within the human mind.

Sigmund Freud's daughter, Anna, and his nephew, Edward Bernays, provided the 
centrepiece philosophy. The US government, big business, and the CIA used their 
ideas to develop techniques to manage and control the minds of the American 
people. But this was not a cynical exercise in manipulation. Those in power 
believed that the only way to make democracy work and create a stable society 
was to repress the savage barbarism that lurked just under the surface of 
normal American life.

http://tracker. conspiracycentra l.net/torrents- details.php? id=1779

The Century Of The Self - Part 3of4
There is a Policeman Inside All Our Heads: He Must Be Destroyed

In the 1960s, a radical group of psychotherapists challenged the influence of 
Freudian ideas in America. They were inspired by the ideas of Wilhelm Reich, a 
pupil of Freud's, who had turned against him and was hated by the Freud family. 
He believed that the inner self did not need to be repressed and controlled. It 
should be encouraged to express itself.

Out of this came a political movement that sought to create new beings free of 
the psychological conformity that had been implanted in people's minds by 
business and politics.

This programme shows how this rapidly developed in America through self-help 
movements like Werber Erhard's Erhard Seminar Training - into the irresistible 
rise of the expressive self: the Me Generation.

But the American corporations soon realised that this new self was not a threat 
but their greatest opportunity. It was in their interest to encourage people to 
feel they were unique individuals and then sell them ways to express that 
individuality. To do this they turned to techniques developed by Freudian 
psychoanalysts to read the inner desires of the new self.

http://tracker. conspiracycentra l.net/torrents- details.php? id=1780

The Century Of The Self - Part 4of4
Eight People Sipping Wine in Kettering

This episode explains how politicians on the left, in both Britain and America, 
turned to the techniques developed by business to read and fulfil the inner 
desires of the self.

Both New Labour, under Tony Blair, and the Democrats, led by Bill Cli

[cia-drugs] The Faces of the Financial Crisis

2008-09-18 Thread RoadsEnd
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/99262/


[cia-drugs] Brasscheck TV A media monster

2008-09-18 Thread scott munson

National Gasoline pump price map
http://www.gasbuddy.com/GB_Map_Gas_Prices.aspx

Looting the USA. Fed to loan AIG $85 billion and take 80% stake in  
rescue

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/17/business/17insure.php





Brasscheck TV:   A media monster

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/45.html

He worked as a media and political consultant
for Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.

He ran George H.W. Bush's first presidential
campaign.

He arranged for Rush Limbaugh to have his radio
show nationally syndicated.

He ran Rudolph Giuliani's first campaign to be
mayor of New York City.

In 1989, Rupert Murdoch hired him to create
Fox News.

His name is Roger Ailes.

Here are some short clips from a film about his
monstrous, anti-American creation, Fox News, that
has done so much harm to our nation:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/45.html

- Brasscheck


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