Re: [Cin] Deleting "CompressorMulti" from playing audio track lead to crash?

2020-09-20 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
В сообщении от Monday 21 September 2020 04:57:22 Phyllis Smith via Cin 
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> Andrew,
> GG could not get this to crash.  I am still working on trying.  Was it a
> 32-bit system?

Yes

> 
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:49 AM Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin <
> cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:
> 
> > I played with some effects.
> >
> > Loaded my usual video (mkv)
> > Then I added "CompressorMulti' to just one audio track (paused).
> > I hit play, it worked for some time, I bring up config window, then tried
> > to delete effect while timeline was still playing. Crash (not very
> > informative):
> >
> >  PRI_PRIME=1 LANG=ru_RU.utf8 cin
> > Cinelerra Infinity - built: Sep 16 2020 10:46:53
> > git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git
> > (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams
> > 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy
> > Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
> > and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> > certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
> >
> > RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
> > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> > /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> > /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> > /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> > /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> > /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> > free(): invalid next size (fast)
> > Аварийный останов
> >
> > Adding same effect to playing timeline also *may* results in crash:
> >
> > PRI_PRIME=1 LANG=ru_RU.utf8 cin
> > Cinelerra Infinity - built: Sep 16 2020 10:46:53
> > git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git
> > (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams
> > 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy
> > Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
> > and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> > certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
> >
> > RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
> > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> > /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> > /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> > /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> > /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> > FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> > /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> > free(): invalid next size (fast)
> > Аварийный останов
> >
> > Attached are backup session file, compressormulti's settings file and
> > Cinelerra_rc
> >
> > PS: I wonder if real midi keyboard/soft synth can be used with Synthetizer
> > plugin...
> > I also think Synth interface a bit large for 1440 screen, but not sure if
> > anything can/should be done about this  (Other UI elements are OK, so
> > global scaling probably not very good idea for me).
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Re: [Cin] Histogram Plugin add on feature

2020-09-20 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
A demo to go with an explanation.
https://streamable.com/h0rzo5
The histogram plugin ordinarily applies a value for a single frame.  This
new feature modifies histogram to show values for a selection of frames.
You use several frames in a video that you want to use the *"average"*
color to determine the color you want the rest of the video to be.  When
there is a large light or color variation within a range of a few frames,
you spend a lot of time correcting each frame when it would be better to
just get an average value to use.  If you want, then you can make a LUT for
that set of frames instead of each frame.

Thanks, great addition. But I must understand how it works.
>

I hope this helps, but I need a better understanding myself.  Phyllis
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Re: [Cin] Deleting "CompressorMulti" from playing audio track lead to crash?

2020-09-20 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
Andrew,
GG could not get this to crash.  I am still working on trying.  Was it a
32-bit system?

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:49 AM Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin <
cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:

> I played with some effects.
>
> Loaded my usual video (mkv)
> Then I added "CompressorMulti' to just one audio track (paused).
> I hit play, it worked for some time, I bring up config window, then tried
> to delete effect while timeline was still playing. Crash (not very
> informative):
>
>  PRI_PRIME=1 LANG=ru_RU.utf8 cin
> Cinelerra Infinity - built: Sep 16 2020 10:46:53
> git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git
> (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams
> 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy
> Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
> and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
>
> RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> free(): invalid next size (fast)
> Аварийный останов
>
> Adding same effect to playing timeline also *may* results in crash:
>
> PRI_PRIME=1 LANG=ru_RU.utf8 cin
> Cinelerra Infinity - built: Sep 16 2020 10:46:53
> git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git
> (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams
> 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy
> Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
> and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
>
> RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
> /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv
> free(): invalid next size (fast)
> Аварийный останов
>
> Attached are backup session file, compressormulti's settings file and
> Cinelerra_rc
>
> PS: I wonder if real midi keyboard/soft synth can be used with Synthetizer
> plugin...
> I also think Synth interface a bit large for 1440 screen, but not sure if
> anything can/should be done about this  (Other UI elements are OK, so
> global scaling probably not very good idea for me).
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Re: [Cin] New feature: enhanced Motion plugin

2020-09-20 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
Andrea, I think we fixed the error you got in the following and checked it
in yesterday.  Let us know if you ever see it again.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:38 AM Andrea paz via Cin <
cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:

> Trying to run the sge test, I loaded tm1.xml. I opened the motion
> plugin window and realized I have "Play every frame" unchecked. L'ho
> attivato. I closed the plugin window (with the warning message in
> red); I reopened it (message in green) and after a couple of seconds I
> had a crash with dump. I did it all again as root and got a crash with
> dump again, which I report in attachment. To be precise the crash
> happens when I move the plugin window to another position. If I don't
> do the checked/unchecked steps of "Play every frame" I don't crash, if
> I do I crash.
> At the terminal there are the following lines, but I always have them,
> not only in this case:
>
> unjoined tids / owner 3
>   7f46e9502640 / 7f484b7fe640 12RenderEngine
>   7f4708540640 / 7f484b7fe640 12RenderEngine
>   7f46fb526640 / 7f47f5ffb640 12RenderEngine
>
> On the occasion of the crash I have:
>
> ** segv at 0x556921190bf4 in pid 179611, tid 179707
> writing debug data to /tmp/cinelerra_179611.dmp
> lock_items: 22
> lock_frees: 7
> ** dump complete
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Re: [Cin] Error compiling .tex to pdf

2020-09-20 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
*Andrew*, I applied your patch + *Andrea*, I applied your several changes
from yesterday (DVD.tex, Editing, Plugins, Tips, and Trouble) with the
rearrangement of some images as Andrew had suggested.  They are checked
into GIT and the updated Manual is on the website.  I did have a little
trouble with Plugins.tex but I think I have it all resolved as I had to be
very careful with Motion plugin changes, but If Andrea could check the
yuvshift.png location to make sure I would appreciate that as I think I got
that wrong.

As Andrea already noted, keep the review and revisions coming as they are
easy to integrate for me.  And THANKS !!


For now I only fixed (hopefully!) 'assetts' vs 'assets' in
> Editing.tex and Loadandsave.tex
>
...

> >
> > The pdf looks the same after optimization, but it's better to ask
> Phyllis.
> >
>
2 things - 1) I think we settled on the style of the pdf awhile back as a
group discussion and all styles have merit,
and 2) I do not pay any attention to errors that LaTex generates unless it
actually stops because I do not even know what they mean anyway and do not
really plan on learning LaTex due to lack on time/interest.  As long as it
creates a pdf file, I am happy/lazy.
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Re: [Cin] Single-frame step fwd/bak in viewer delayed?

2020-09-20 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
Andrea, we will update and add.

I tried to add simple ffv1.avi file (use with avi_pcm_s16 sound)
>
> It doesn't play smooth in CinGG for me (for 1080p/30 fps), but plays in
> Mplayer (but frame forward/backward seems to work in Cin, just slowly)
>
I had no problem playing with 1920x1080/29.7fps but not sure why.
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Re: [Cin] Error compiling .tex to pdf

2020-09-20 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
I have solved two references (due to the new Advanced Editing
chapter). But those of the type:

"Token not allowed in a PDF string (PDFDocEncoding):(hyperref) \kern
3.19905pt(hyperref) removed"

I do not understand them and do not know how to fix them.
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Re: [Cin] Error compiling .tex to pdf

2020-09-20 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
В сообщении от Sunday 20 September 2020 21:10:05 Андрей Спицын via Cin 
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> The overfull warning is a just info, that latex cant fit line into its
> borders. Its can be skipped if that line looks ok.
> The reference and labels warnings are important, it's indicates that some
> references are undefined, or labels used more than one time.

For now I only fixed (hopefully!) 'assetts' vs 'assets' in 
Editing.tex and Loadandsave.tex


> 
> The pdf looks the same after optimization, but it's better to ask Phyllis.
> 
> вс, 20 сент. 2020 г., 20:32 Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin <
> cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:
> 
> > В сообщении от Sunday 20 September 2020 20:03:10 Андрей Спицын via Cin
> > написал(а):
> > > Hi, Andrew!
> > > Indeed, very strange error. But you can bypass it by comment
> > > out renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily string. Although latex will
> > > use the default CM font.
> > >
> > > That texlive version you use? Can it be possible to update it?
> >
> > texlive-2020.200608-i586-2_SBo.txz
> > texlive-extra-2020.200608-i586-1_SBo.txz (but with fonts moved to separate
> > dir)
> > But when I run it (kile) from root it worked better, now I have huge log
> > file, still no pdf :/
> >
> > Ah, no, reinstalling both packages give me output!
> >
> > But A LOT of warnings too ... (log attached)
> >
> > I also optimized a bit png files by running optipng on them, do you think
> > this is safe procedure to do in main repo ? (just few mb less - > 57765K vs
> > 60487K)
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Andrey
> > >
> > > вс, 20 сент. 2020 г., 18:57 Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin <
> > > cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:
> > >
> > > > Hi all!
> > > >
> > > > I installed texlive for Slackware and additional fonts (on another
> > > > partition due to its size, mounted with -obind), and Kile 1.9.3 (KDE3
> > TeX
> > > > editor).
> > > >
> > > > Now when I try to compile documentation I get:
> > > >
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbch.sty:186:Font
> > > > T1/mdbch/m/n/12=mdbchr8t at 11.52008pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file
> > not
> > > > found. \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbch.sty:186:pdfTeX
> > > > error (font): invalid font identifier.
> > > > \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily
> > > >
> > > > even if I have
> > > >
> > > > find /usr/share/texmf-dist/ -name mdbchr8t*
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/fonts/vf/public/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbchr8t.vf
> > > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbchr8t.tfm
> > > >
> > > > I tried to run mktexlsr (as root):
> > > >
> > > > mktexlsr
> > > > mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-config/ls-R...
> > > > mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-dist/ls-R...
> > > > mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-local/ls-R...
> > > > mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-var/ls-R...
> > > > 

Re: [Cin] Error compiling .tex to pdf

2020-09-20 Thread Андрей Спицын via Cin
The overfull warning is a just info, that latex cant fit line into its
borders. Its can be skipped if that line looks ok.
The reference and labels warnings are important, it's indicates that some
references are undefined, or labels used more than one time.

The pdf looks the same after optimization, but it's better to ask Phyllis.

вс, 20 сент. 2020 г., 20:32 Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin <
cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:

> В сообщении от Sunday 20 September 2020 20:03:10 Андрей Спицын via Cin
> написал(а):
> > Hi, Andrew!
> > Indeed, very strange error. But you can bypass it by comment
> > out renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily string. Although latex will
> > use the default CM font.
> >
> > That texlive version you use? Can it be possible to update it?
>
> texlive-2020.200608-i586-2_SBo.txz
> texlive-extra-2020.200608-i586-1_SBo.txz (but with fonts moved to separate
> dir)
> But when I run it (kile) from root it worked better, now I have huge log
> file, still no pdf :/
>
> Ah, no, reinstalling both packages give me output!
>
> But A LOT of warnings too ... (log attached)
>
> I also optimized a bit png files by running optipng on them, do you think
> this is safe procedure to do in main repo ? (just few mb less - > 57765K vs
> 60487K)
>
>
> >
> >  --
> > Best regards,
> > Andrey
> >
> > вс, 20 сент. 2020 г., 18:57 Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin <
> > cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:
> >
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I installed texlive for Slackware and additional fonts (on another
> > > partition due to its size, mounted with -obind), and Kile 1.9.3 (KDE3
> TeX
> > > editor).
> > >
> > > Now when I try to compile documentation I get:
> > >
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> > > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbch.sty:186:Font
> > > T1/mdbch/m/n/12=mdbchr8t at 11.52008pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file
> not
> > > found. \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbch.sty:186:pdfTeX
> > > error (font): invalid font identifier.
> > > \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily
> > >
> > > even if I have
> > >
> > > find /usr/share/texmf-dist/ -name mdbchr8t*
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/fonts/vf/public/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbchr8t.vf
> > > /usr/share/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbchr8t.tfm
> > >
> > > I tried to run mktexlsr (as root):
> > >
> > > mktexlsr
> > > mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-config/ls-R...
> > > mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-dist/ls-R...
> > > mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-local/ls-R...
> > > mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-var/ls-R...
> > > mktexlsr: Done.
> > >
> > > same error.
> > >
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Re: [Cin] Histogram Plugin add on feature

2020-09-20 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
All:
The "Linear to Log Slider" is missing in the previous png file - I resized
the window and did not notice this bug which GG will fix when he gets back
from his bike ride.
Andrea:
I will explain better and provide a demo, hopefully sometime today.


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> Thanks, great addition. But I must understand how it works.
> I had a crash during a reset, but I could not replicate it anymore.
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Re: [Cin] [spam?] Error compiling .tex to pdf

2020-09-20 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
В сообщении от Sunday 20 September 2020 20:23:24 Georgy Salnikov написал(а):
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
> 
> > I installed texlive for Slackware and additional fonts (on another
> > partition due to its size, mounted with -obind), and Kile 1.9.3 (KDE3 TeX
> > editor).
> > Now when I try to compile documentation I get:
> > /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
> > declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> 
> Several minutes before I tex'ed the manual from git under Slackware64-14.1
> and Texlive-2017 with pdflatex -- absolutely no problem!
> 
> I installed no additional fonts, but simply installed the complete Texlive.
> It was not Texlive for Slackware, it was just plain Texlive-CD from CTAN.
> And I do not know kile (emacs forever:).

Now I have output \o/ ...

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/2dSp/5uXXcmK3C (there should be pdf and various 
log files from compilation)

Probably I messed up my TeX install by manually unpacking various rpms and debs 
into it 

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Re: [Cin] [spam?] Error compiling .tex to pdf

2020-09-20 Thread Georgy Salnikov via Cin
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:

> I installed texlive for Slackware and additional fonts (on another
> partition due to its size, mounted with -obind), and Kile 1.9.3 (KDE3 TeX
> editor).
> Now when I try to compile documentation I get:
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.

Several minutes before I tex'ed the manual from git under Slackware64-14.1
and Texlive-2017 with pdflatex -- absolutely no problem!

I installed no additional fonts, but simply installed the complete Texlive.
It was not Texlive for Slackware, it was just plain Texlive-CD from CTAN.
And I do not know kile (emacs forever:).

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Re: [Cin] Error compiling .tex to pdf

2020-09-20 Thread Андрей Спицын via Cin
Hi, Andrew!
Indeed, very strange error. But you can bypass it by comment
out renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily string. Although latex will
use the default CM font.

That texlive version you use? Can it be possible to update it?

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вс, 20 сент. 2020 г., 18:57 Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin <
cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:

> Hi all!
>
> I installed texlive for Slackware and additional fonts (on another
> partition due to its size, mounted with -obind), and Kile 1.9.3 (KDE3 TeX
> editor).
>
> Now when I try to compile documentation I get:
>
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape
> declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbch.sty:186:Font
> T1/mdbch/m/n/12=mdbchr8t at 11.52008pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not
> found. \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbch.sty:186:pdfTeX
> error (font): invalid font identifier.
> \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily
>
> even if I have
>
> find /usr/share/texmf-dist/ -name mdbchr8t*
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/fonts/vf/public/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbchr8t.vf
> /usr/share/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbchr8t.tfm
>
> I tried to run mktexlsr (as root):
>
> mktexlsr
> mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-config/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-dist/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-local/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-var/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Done.
>
> same error.
>
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Re: [Cin] Single-frame step fwd/bak in viewer delayed?

2020-09-20 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
В сообщении от Sunday 20 September 2020 17:05:37 Andrea paz via Cin написал(а):
> > Interesting... It would be enough to add in Cinelerra-GG the possibility
> > to use the ffv1 video codec to the list offered with the AVI container
> > for rendering and to make sure that these files (ffv1.avi) are then
> > readable and usable for editing in Cinelerra-GG.
> >
> > Pierre
> 
> +1
> I would like to ffv1 also inside .mov that doesn't have the
> limitations of .avi, but just for this could be more problematic.


I tried to add simple ffv1.avi file (use with avi_pcm_s16 sound)

It doesn't play smooth in CinGG for me (for 1080p/30 fps), but plays in Mplayer 
(but frame forward/backward seems to work in Cin, just slowly)

I also added cin_quality=23 to flv_h264.flv (now it gives 32 Mb / min for 
1080p/30 fps video - hopefully this quality is good for you too)



ffv1.avi
Description: Binary data


flv_h264.flv
Description: Binary data
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[Cin] Error compiling .tex to pdf

2020-09-20 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
Hi all!

I installed texlive for Slackware and additional fonts (on another partition 
due to its size, mounted with -obind), and Kile 1.9.3 (KDE3 TeX editor).

Now when I try to compile documentation I get:

/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdsffont.def:0: Font shape 
declaration has incorrect series value `mc'.
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbch.sty:186:Font 
T1/mdbch/m/n/12=mdbchr8t at 11.52008pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not 
found. \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily
/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbch.sty:186:pdfTeX error 
(font): invalid font identifier. \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{mdbch}\rmfamily

even if I have 

find /usr/share/texmf-dist/ -name mdbchr8t*
/usr/share/texmf-dist/fonts/vf/public/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbchr8t.vf
/usr/share/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/mathdesign/mdbch/mdbchr8t.tfm

I tried to run mktexlsr (as root):

mktexlsr
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-config/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-dist/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf-var/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.

same error.

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Re: [Cin] Histogram Plugin add on feature

2020-09-20 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
Thanks, great addition. But I must understand how it works.
I had a crash during a reset, but I could not replicate it anymore.
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Re: [Cin] Single-frame step fwd/bak in viewer delayed?

2020-09-20 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
> Interesting... It would be enough to add in Cinelerra-GG the possibility
> to use the ffv1 video codec to the list offered with the AVI container
> for rendering and to make sure that these files (ffv1.avi) are then
> readable and usable for editing in Cinelerra-GG.
>
> Pierre

+1
I would like to ffv1 also inside .mov that doesn't have the
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Re: [Cin] Single-frame step fwd/bak in viewer delayed?

2020-09-20 Thread Pierre autourduglobe via Cin


Interesting... It would be enough to add in Cinelerra-GG the possibility 
to use the ffv1 video codec to the list offered with the AVI container 
for rendering and to make sure that these files (ffv1.avi) are then 
readable and usable for editing in Cinelerra-GG.


Pierre



Le 20-09-20 à 02 h 30, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin a écrit :

Maybe avi will work (with usual avi limitations)?

https://natron.readthedocs.io/en/rb-2.3/plugins/fr.inria.openfx.WriteFFmpeg.html

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ffvhuff, flv, h263p, huffyuv, jpeg2000, jpegls, ljpeg, mjpeg, mpeg2video, 
mpeg4, msmpeg4v2, msmpeg4, png, svq1, targa, v308, v408, v410, vc2, 
libopenjpeg, libtheora, libvpx, libvpx-vp9, libx264, libx264rgb, libxvid, 
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Re: [Cin] Current (10 sep 2020) pdf manual has some pictures displaced?

2020-09-20 Thread Спицын Андрей via Cin

The little addendum for Andrew. You can setup the github repo for manual
clone the cinelerra's git and bound it to sharelatex.com.
The sharelatex provides full functional latex editor for web browser.
The only limitation on free account I found for myself is compile time.
But you can easily overcome this by use \includeonly command in latex.

Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 04:05:16AM +0300, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin написал:

May be all those will be autofixed by attached by Andrea  .tex file, but I know 
no way to test it without TeX installed 


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Re: [Cin] Current (10 sep 2020) pdf manual has some pictures displaced?

2020-09-20 Thread Спицын Андрей via Cin
Hi Andrea and Andrew! 
I think that it's OK if fig. 10.8 and 16.2 placed on next page relative
their reference. 
There is Russian standard for research reports (GOST 7.32-2017) that

says (p. 6.5.1) that figures should be placed after it's reference on
same page or (if no space left) on next page.  So I think it's ok.
As far as I can understand the typography rules that empty space on page
must be filled by text or figures. LaTeX tries it's best to follow this
rule.


Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 09:38:13PM +0200, Andrea paz via Cin написал:

The problem is when there is no physical space on the page to hold the
image (in the position we indicated); so it happens especially with
large images -smaller images can often be fixed. The choice is whether
to leave a blank space in a page with the image moving to the
beginning of the next page (where it is located), but always within
the same section, as Andrew prefers; or to let Latex fill the blank
space with the next section and put the image at the beginning of the
next page. I've let Latex do it so far, but if others prefer Andrew's
idea, it's not difficult to fix it. What do you think? Andrey, what do
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Re: [Cin] Histogram Plugin add on feature

2020-09-20 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Can you confirm that this new feature on the Histogram Plugin is 
compatible with the old/current projects?

Thanks!

IgorBeg


Il 20/09/2020 02:06, Phyllis Smith via Cin ha scritto:
The Histogram Plugin will function as it did but a new feature has 
been added and checked into GIT.  The one default that has been 
changed is that you can choose a Linear or a Log slider value.  It is 
set at the beginning to 50% but if you want it to be the same as 
before, just set that slider all the way to Log.


The easiest general procedure is to select the area on the timeline 
for which you would like to see the Histogram averaged and then click 
on the "Frames" button in the Histogram plugin.  Description of other 
changes:


Linear to Log slider - frequency in Linear range to Log range; default 
is 50%; original was always Log.
Frames button - if a Selection is set on the timeline, the number of 
frames will be calculated and shown in the box next to it.
Frame Count box - type in the number of frames you want to be looked 
at starting at the insert marker or use the up/down counter.

Clear Frames icon - reset the frame count to the default value of 0.

A side note - by using a number of frames, you can get a 
"dissolve-like transition effect" which is interesting.

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Re: [Cin] New feature: enhanced Motion plugin

2020-09-20 Thread Georgy Salnikov via Cin
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020, Phyllis Smith via Cin wrote:

> checked it into GIT.  Andrea volunteered to remake the motion.png in the
> Cakewalk theme because it was suggested that all of the images be in the
> same theme so as not to confuse "new users".  Some of us "old users" like
> me have their preferred themes and I refuse to switch !  I have not updated

In principle, I did not even mentioned to include the GUI screenshot into
the manual. I meant, while editing manual a programmer could prefer to
quickly look on such an image, how exactly some GUI controls are called
there. Without the need to rebild and start the whole software.

Of course, if ever insert such a picture in the manual, it should be made
under the standard theme used throughout the manual.

Somewhen I tried also to force myself to switch to the new theme, and this
trial was unsuccessful to me;-)

> > GG thinks it is probably OK to eliminate Motion CV and HV as it really
> does confuse things.  But I just do not know if there are users out there
> who have existing projects that may be using them.

As an intermediate measure, it might be possible to comment out the
redundant plugins from plugin_defs but leave for some transition time in the
source distribution.
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Re: [Cin] Single-frame step fwd/bak in viewer delayed?

2020-09-20 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
В сообщении от Wednesday 16 September 2020 11:21:32 Andrea paz via Cin 
написал(а):
> I gave up using mkv because it always gave me seek problems (see BT
> #137). I tried to use Transcode and got new mkv, but it doesn't solve
> the problem. I tried to use mkvtoolnix (which was created just for
> these problems) but I didn't solve the problem. In the latter case,
> however, it could be my fault that I don't know how to use the program
> well.
> Sorry to leave this container because it is the only one using ffv1,
> which is a (better) alternative to ProRes and DNxHD. But it is really
> too problematic. In my ignorance I ask: can you bring ffv1 (and opus,
> flac, etc) under mov or other container


Maybe avi will work (with usual avi limitations)?

https://natron.readthedocs.io/en/rb-2.3/plugins/fr.inria.openfx.WriteFFmpeg.html

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mpeg4, msmpeg4v2, msmpeg4, png, svq1, targa, v308, v408, v410, vc2, 
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also recommended here:
http://download.das-werkstatt.com/pb/mthk/info/video/FAQ-digital_video_archiving.html


Q: What are the pros and cons regarding these video formats for archiving?
container
video-codec
audio-codec
1.  MXF  JPEG2000  PCM (uncompressed)
  2.  MXF  Uncompressed  PCM (uncompressed)
  3.  MOV  ProRes  PCM (uncompressed)
  4.  MKV  FFV1  PCM (uncompressed)
  5.  AVI  FFV1  PCM (uncompressed)
   
 This answer is so long, that we've put a detailed comparison of the "usual 
suspects" on its own page: Comparing video codecs and containers for archives 
Q: Which audio/video codecs does the Mediathek use?
 For captured material, we use FFV1 for video and uncompressed PCM for audio. 
Audio resolution depends on the source material, but analogue sources are 
captured using 48kHz 24bit, as this is the SDI standard.
 
 "Born digital" material, coming in as a file already, is a whole different 
story. Please read up on born digital details, below. 
Q: Which container does the Mediathek use?
 We use AVI (Audio Video Interleaved).
 
 Almost every application that has to do with video can handle AVI files. 
Ranging from Free Software (Open Source) to proprietary tools, professional and 
consumer alike. It has a quite limited set of features, but this is also a main 
feature for long-term preservation: simple = robust. 
 Also: more features = more possible points of failure. Some archives argue the 
case for containers with complex features, but do not acknowledge the dangers 
accompanying this decision: the more features a container has, the more 
possible points of failure are added to your archive copy. Keeping this in 
mind, we made our decision for a simple container. 
 In practice, we've had almost no interoperability issues with using AVI across 
different tools from different vendors. Even across different operating system 
platforms. 
 We currently do not yet know of any other container that is so widely and 
stably supported.

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