[CinCV] Re: Grandma is back! (AV Linux)

2012-04-03 Thread Miroslav Rovis

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 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Grandma is back!
 From: AV Linux i...@bandshed.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
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 Hi Miro,

 Try this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIuE4Eus7h_k
No work.
 If that doesn't work I'm baffled. A search for 'AV Linux 5.0.3' should
 bring up the 3 release videos and the Cinelerra blurb is in the middle of
 Video '2 of 3'. My apologies for the inconvenience.
But I'm a little unwelll to go and search.
Never mind.
M.
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Re: [CinCV] Grandma is back!

2012-04-01 Thread Miroslav Rovis

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 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:49:14 -0700
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Grandma is back!
 From: AV Linux i...@bandshed.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no

 Great News!!

 I'm glad Grandma is back on her feet. I will gladly donate I just want to
 be sure I use the correct address, I'm more used to a 'donate' button
 taking me right to the donation page for the actual project. For instance
 on my site the donate button takes you right to the correct email address=
 .
 This can easily be set up by copying and pasting some button code from
 Paypal and putting it on the Grandma site. Trust me, in the Linux world
 you never want to make donations difficult!...lol.

 So do I use the email shown on the website (infoATg-raffaDOTeu) to donate=
 ?

 I also gave you and Grandma a plug on this video I did for AV Linux
 (edited with Cinelerra), It covers a lot of stuff and the Cinelerra blurb
 is at about 7 minutes and 30 second into the video if you want bypass all
 the other stuff to take a look. My sincere apologies for mangling the
 names with my horrid flat Canadian accent...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIuE4Eus7h_kfeature=3Drelmfu

 Thanks -GLEN

With (plain clicking) or without the feature=3Drelmfu at end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIuE4Eus7h
this video is:
 The video you have requested is not available.
If you have recently uploaded this video, you may need to wait a few
minutes for the video to process.
Sorry about that.

But it is so here at this time in Central Europe:
Sun Apr  1 20:48:02 CEST 2012
and also was so about 3-4 hours ago.
Miro


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[CinCV] Re: g-raffa.eu still down

2012-03-27 Thread Miroslav Rovis

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 Dear Einar,
 sorry again for the mess I made.

 I only have you mail at hand.
 I noticed, it's been =A0few hours, and I tried again, Raffa's site is down.
 If she doesn't know it, let her know.
  From Croatia it definetely can not be accessed.

 Bye!

 Miro

Still down.
Google-ing, found easily various sites like:
http://vimeo.com/raffatraniello

but  g-raffa.eu is
Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at g-raffa.eu.

And this time with Tor browser,

Hopefully nothing serious.
World is beautiful because of there are people like her, and you folks
at Cinelerra.
I won't worry yet, but I will pray just the same.

Miro


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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis

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Unwell part of the time.
Lost for understanding the other part. Didn't expect just hours.
Pls. forgive me.
I'm in my middle fifties, this is new to me.

Seee below, if just maybe it is not too late.

On 22/03/12 17:38, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
 Hi

 On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Miroslav Rovis m.ro...@inet.hr wrote:

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 To Cinelerra developers that looked into this,
 Einar, and Raffa!

 There's an update.
 Another developer is quite confident that the ball is in your yard,
 dear respected Cinelerra developers.

 They gave up, I see

 I believe you are right. I peeked at audioesound.C, and it looked
 quite simple, less than 200 lines of code. Much less than the ALSA
 output driver.

 I would propose writing a pulseaudio driver, instead of patching
 the old ALSA driver. That would fix the problem in the right place.
 It could be fairly low hanging fruit.


 Write a patch. I am ready to review.
 --
 Herman Robak


 Miroslav, can you do a simple test? Rename your $HOME/.bcast directory
 to something else.
 Then load your media file (not project!) and try to play it. Do you
hear sound?

 If you do not hear sound, post the output of 'aplay -l' and 'aplay -L'
here.

 What type of audio you try to play in Cinelerra?

 Einar
I try to play:
miro@at8-g250-c $ midentify 
call_out_2012.03.16-17.01.50_0XX_S_aac.mp4
ID_AUDIO_ID=0
ID_CLIP_INFO_NAME0=major_brand
ID_CLIP_INFO_VALUE0=mp42
ID_CLIP_INFO_NAME1=minor_version
ID_CLIP_INFO_VALUE1=1
ID_CLIP_INFO_NAME2=compatible_brands
ID_CLIP_INFO_VALUE2=isommp423gp5
ID_CLIP_INFO_NAME3=creation_time
ID_CLIP_INFO_VALUE3=2012-03-16\ 14:55:00
ID_CLIP_INFO_N=4
ID_FILENAME=call_out_2012.03.16-17.01.50_0XX_S_aac.mp4
ID_DEMUXER=lavfpref
ID_AUDIO_FORMAT=MP4A
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=111592
ID_AUDIO_RATE=48000
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
ID_START_TIME=0.00
ID_LENGTH=892.76
ID_SEEKABLE=1
ID_CHAPTERS=0
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=111592
ID_AUDIO_RATE=48000
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
ID_AUDIO_CODEC=ffaac
ID_EXIT=EOF
miro@at8-g250-c $

and here the output after I mv .bcast to .bcast_TMP
Cinelerra presented with vanilla configuration, with tips and all, then
I just closed, issued
echo 0x7fff   /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax and started if again,
opened the file above
and got no sound.
And here the output:

miro@at8-g250-c $ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: M5461 [HDA ULI M5461], device 0: ALC882 Analog [ALC882 Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: M5461 [HDA ULI M5461], device 1: ALC882 Digital [ALC882 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
miro@at8-g250-c $ aplay -L
sysdefault:CARD=M5461
HDA ULI M5461, ALC882 Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=M5461,DEV=0
HDA ULI M5461, ALC882 Analog
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=M5461,DEV=0
HDA ULI M5461, ALC882 Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=M5461,DEV=0
HDA ULI M5461, ALC882 Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=M5461,DEV=0
HDA ULI M5461, ALC882 Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=M5461,DEV=0
HDA ULI M5461, ALC882 Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=M5461,DEV=0
HDA ULI M5461, ALC882 Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=M5461,DEV=0
HDA ULI M5461, ALC882 Digital
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
miro@at8-g250-c $


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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
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On 22/03/12 17:38, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
 Hi Miroslav, can you do a simple test? Rename your $HOME/.bcast
 directory to something else. Then load your media file (not
 project!) and try to play it. Do you
hear sound?
 
 If you do not hear sound, post the output of 'aplay -l' and 'aplay
 -L'
here.
With the previous aac file, I don't remember, maybe I issued  'aplay
- -l' and 'aplay -L' after closing Cinelerra...

 What type of audio you try to play in Cinelerra? Einar
Here's news that show how something I lack, to put it mildly, because
in all this time I never rememebered to try and play a different audio
codecs than aac in Cinelerra.

I only now tried to play:

miro@at8-g250-c $ midentify
call_out_2012.03.16-17.01.50_0989001370_S.wav
ID_AUDIO_ID=0
ID_FILENAME=call_out_2012.03.16-17.01.50_0989001370_S.wav
ID_DEMUXER=audio
ID_AUDIO_FORMAT=1
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=1536000
ID_AUDIO_RATE=0
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
ID_START_TIME=0.00
ID_LENGTH=892.00
ID_SEEKABLE=1
ID_CHAPTERS=0
ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=1536000
ID_AUDIO_RATE=48000
ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
ID_AUDIO_CODEC=pcm
ID_EXIT=EOF
miro@at8-g250-c $

and it played just fine.
It is very likely it would have played just fine a week ago as well.
Wish I had elephants ears so I could cover my face... This is really a
shame.
What do I do with my honesty, sincerity and good intentions, and
little intelligence, when I can't remember simple logical things to do?
Miro
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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 23/03/12 11:51, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Miroslav Rovis m.ro...@inet.hr wrote:
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 On 22/03/12 17:38, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
 Hi Miroslav, can you do a simple test? Rename your $HOME/.bcast
 directory to something else. Then load your media file (not
 project!) and try to play it. Do you
 hear sound?
 If you do not hear sound, post the output of 'aplay -l' and 'aplay
 -L'
 here.
 With the previous aac file, I don't remember, maybe I issued  'aplay
 - -l' and 'aplay -L' after closing Cinelerra...
 Before or after is not important. These commands show configured audio 
 devices.

 What type of audio you try to play in Cinelerra? Einar
 Here's news that show how something I lack, to put it mildly, because
 in all this time I never rememebered to try and play a different audio
 codecs than aac in Cinelerra.

 I only now tried to play:

 miro@at8-g250-c $ midentify
 call_out_2012.03.16-17.01.50_0989001370_S.wav
 ID_AUDIO_ID=0
 ID_FILENAME=call_out_2012.03.16-17.01.50_0989001370_S.wav
 ID_DEMUXER=audio
 ID_AUDIO_FORMAT=1
 ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=1536000
 ID_AUDIO_RATE=0
 ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
 ID_START_TIME=0.00
 ID_LENGTH=892.00
 ID_SEEKABLE=1
 ID_CHAPTERS=0
 ID_AUDIO_BITRATE=1536000
 ID_AUDIO_RATE=48000
 ID_AUDIO_NCH=2
 ID_AUDIO_CODEC=pcm
 ID_EXIT=EOF
 miro@at8-g250-c $

 and it played just fine.
 It is very likely it would have played just fine a week ago as well.
 Wish I had elephants ears so I could cover my face... This is really a
 shame.
 What do I do with my honesty, sincerity and good intentions, and
 little intelligence, when I can't remember simple logical things to do?
 So Cinelerra failed silently to decode the audio. It happens. There is
 quite a few media formats that Cinelerra can decode. And it not always
 gives error messages while it fails.

 Seems this problem is solved. Rename your .bcast back - this contains
 all settings of Cinelerra. There is no more settings anywhere else.

 Einar
 (I am in mid-fifties too)

Yes, but it's you who remembered to go and see what kind a file it was
that I was trying to play.
And you spent a fraction of my time with this issue...
And I waked and slept with this all these days...
And I was completely convinced that I wasn't able to do the editing that
was urgent to me back than because of this... while it was there for the
doing all that time!
Merciful God!
But I'm not crushed with this. I can laugh at it, because it is also
very funny!
Anyway, thanks for Cinelerra to all you of guys!
I hope I will be useful truly to your project which I very much like and
respect, some other time.
Miroslav Rovis
(And by the way, pulseaudio is lso beginning to mostly work fine
generally on my systems.)


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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-22 Thread Miroslav Rovis

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 På Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:47:06 +0100, skrev Miroslav Rovis m.rovis@???:

  To Cinelerra developers that looked into this,
  Einar, and Raffa!
 
  There's an update.
  Another developer is quite confident that the ball is in your yard,
  dear respected Cinelerra developers.

 I believe you are right. I peeked at audioesound.C, and it looked
 quite simple, less than 200 lines of code. Much less than the ALSA
 output driver.

 I would propose writing a pulseaudio driver, instead of patching
 the old ALSA driver. That would fix the problem in the right place.
 It could be fairly low hanging fruit.

 --
 Herman Robak

Thanks, chief! :-)
And the sooner that is done, the happier I'll be to have contributed to
that little cog in Cinelerra wheels with my requests!
Peace and joy to everybody!
Miroslav Rovis
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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-21 Thread Miroslav Rovis
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To Cinelerra developers that looked into this,
Einar, and Raffa!

There's an update.
Another developer is quite confident that the ball is in your yard,
dear respected Cinelerra developers.

I'll quote the developer Clemens Ladisch first:

 Either cinelerra does something funny with mixer controls, or it 
 accesses the ALSA API in some way that does not work with the PA 
 plugin (but then it should show some error message).

then I'll point you to the context of the diagnose above:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=29017497

I'll point to the situation video:
Cinelerra mute on PulseAudio on Alsa-plugin, on Gentoo: chickenizing
downtime!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh9ZHpjt680

...and, I'll repeat the plea: let's solve this issue!
It seems to lie with you.
I can follow your instructions with the utmost nicety of priority,
close to 0 from among 19 levels...!
Soon if possible. I can't hold for more days after so much downtime.
The downtime being not just for Cinelerra playing mute, but for the
difficult novelties of PulseAudio generally, of course...

Miro

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis

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 Miroslav,

 you can try setting the Audio driver to ESound, port 7007.

 Ciao!
 Raffaella


That (yes, exactly that) makes Cinelerra to crash on my systme. I tried it.
I could try it again though... if needed.
M.R.

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
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 Miroslav,
 
 you can try setting the Audio driver to ESound, port 7007.
 
 Ciao! Raffaella
 


 Miroslav,
 
 you can try setting the Audio driver to ESound, port 7007.
 
 Ciao! Raffaella
 
 
 That (yes, exactly that) makes Cinelerra to crash on my systme. I
tried it.
 I could try it again though... if needed. M.R.
 
 

Sure enough. Only a few seconds (no sound during those, but there
isn't any in the first seconds of the file in the Cinelerra, TBH), and
crashes.

Raffa, it's your settings, from your site, that I got in there ;-)
(the settings that just worked, otherwise, prior to this pulseaudio
craze that got lots of people chickenized... :-)))

I have a hunch it's the clever people on PulseAudio list (Colin the
Developer replied there, and I am waiting on more from him...) that
have the secrets to solution for this issue...

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/pulseaudio-discuss/2012-March/013020.html

M.R.


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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis

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On 19/03/12 20:44, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Miroslav Rovis m.ro...@inet.hr wrote:

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 On 19/03/12 18:43, Einar Rünkaru wrote:

 (checked) Stop playback locks up.

 Try to lower buffer size to 4096 (minimum) and uncheck 'Stop playback
 locks up'


 I'm sorry, somehow I overlooked your line above. Tried it now. No luck!

 Just lots of these:
 [...snip...]
 AudioALSA::write_buffer underrun at sample 202210
 AudioALSA::write_buffer underrun at sample 207193
 AudioALSA::write_buffer underrun at sample 208656
 [...snip...]

 and no sound!
 M.R.

 This proves that Cinelerra sends something to ALSA.

 I am out of ideas.

 My current system has ALSA default routed to pulse and I never get
 underruns. My previous system got underruns - I am not sure how
 pulseaudio was there set up. Everything just worked.

 You have to figure out wether the ALSA default is routed to pulse or
 not. So check your ALSA configuration. I can't help - I never digged
 there. For me everything just worked. Almost.

 Einar
Thank you for you efforts.
This is an ugly hurdle for me.
PulseAudio needs some understanding of programming.
It is rather complicated.
Since I cannot go on without it now, I'll have to sit on their pages for
lots of my time ahead starting ... soon.
Starting soon. As soon as I get over the disappontment that this it not
a small hurdle as I hoped it might be...

Thanks again, to you and to Raffa.

I'll let the list know of any developments concerning this issue!

Miroslav Rovis

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[CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-18 Thread Miroslav Rovis
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Hi everyone!
I am in doubt whether to write to this list, or to pulseaudio list.
But I thought there might be either some specific workaround that we
hopefully will get to, or plain explanations that will later be useful
to other Cinelerra users, or even maybe some bugs still there in
Cinelerra, just maybe...
So I think this is the place.
My question will be: how to get Cinelerra audio playback to work, and
here follows the situation.

PulseAudio installed and working (but not for Cinelerra).
Examples of (mostly working fine: vlc and mplayer) follow.

I thought hard whether to pastebin the pacmd list-sink-inputs and
list-source-outputs, and I decided they're just within limits for a mail
text attachment. I hope readers won't find them excessive, but useful.

### vlc ###

Pls. view:
pulseaudio_vlc_OK

I also fired up the pavucontrol GUI, during which I noticed on my konsole
in the output:
DEBUG: Ignoring sink-input due to it being designated as an event and
thus handled by the Event widget
But I am unsure if that helps diagnose the problem, pls. see later that
the same message also appears during
cinelerramutedplayback in question...

In the pavucontrol GUI, the tabs:
Playback
and Output Devices

have a nicepulsating volume indicatoraccording-to-current-playback-volume.
Because all is well with vlc and pulseaudio interaction.


### mplayer ###
===
Pls. view:
pulseaudio_mplayer_OK

I fired up the pavucontrol GUI again (or just left it running), during
which I noticed on my konsole
in the output:
Even though I noticed
** (pavucontrol:16077): DEBUG: Failed to initialize device manager
extension: No such extension
I don't think that mattered much, because the playback of different
files at first was just fine.
That error, just as the previous one above, the one during vlc playback,
show during cinelerra playback at different times as well.
The mplayer playback of different files was, at first fine, I was
saying. Because I did notice later, but after cinelerra muted playback,
that some merely audio files (no video), didn't play, but instead got
stuck, like this:

Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
libavcodec version 53.60.100 (external)
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 111.6 kbit/7.27% (ratio: 13949-192000)
Selected audio codec: [ffaac] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4
Audio))
==
AO: [pulse] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Video: no video
Starting playback...
A:   0.0 (00.0) of 892.8 (14:52.7) ??,?%
Audio device got stuck!
A:   0.2 (00.1) of 892.8 (14:52.7)  0.3%
Audio device got stuck!
A:   0.3 (00.3) of 892.8 (14:52.7)  0.3%
Audio device got stuck!
A:   0.5 (00.5) of 892.8 (14:52.7)  0.4%
Audio device got stuck!
A:   0.7 (00.6) of 892.8 (14:52.7)  0.4%
Audio device got stuck!

But I was able to get it in a while, and I have a hunch that it was only
temporarily confused by the state induced by cinelerra muted playback.


### cinelerra ###
===
Pls. view:
pulseaudio_cinelerra_BAD

Sure enough, I fired up the pavucontrol GUI just the same, and I don't
know if  this error is much indicative of anything:

** (pavucontrol:17738): DEBUG: Ignoring sink-input due to it being
designated as an event and thus handled by the Event widget

or the other:
** (pavucontrol:16077): DEBUG: Failed to initialize device manager
extension: No such extension

Because, they both showed with vlc and mplayer, while all was fine with
their playback.

In the pavucontrol GUI, the tabs:
Playback
and Output Devices

there is no pulsating volume indicator whatsoever.

So. where do I go from here?

But how do I get to hear what cinelerra is playing?

Any advice or insight of advanced and experienced users and esp.
Cinelerra and all Open Source still rather free (even with all the
*lesser* licences) wizards and saviors, will be appreciated!

Miroslav Rovis
miro.ro...@gmail.com
m.ro...@inet.hr
01 660 2633
091 266 0202
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
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http://www.youtube.com/user/miroR2
nije moj profil, ali do siečnja 2012., a i kasnije, tamo postavljah:
http://www.youtube.com/user/prosvjednikkrcmarek
Ima nešto i ovdje:
http://vimeo.com/user9621785



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 $ pacmd
Welcome to PulseAudio! Use help for usage information.
 list-sink-inputs
1 sink input(s) available.
index: 11
driver: protocol-native.c
flags: VARIABLE_RATE START_CORKED 
state: RUNNING
sink: 0 alsa_output.pci-_00_1d.0.analog-stereo
volume: 0:  67% 1:  67%
0: -10.57 dB 1: -10.57 dB
balance 0.00
muted

[CinCV] Re: Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio

2012-03-18 Thread Miroslav Rovis

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On 18/03/12 19:38, cinelerra-requ...@skolelinux.no wrote:
 1. Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio (Miroslav Rovis)
 PulseAudio installed and working (but not for Cinelerra).
 Examples of (mostly working fine: vlc and mplayer) follow.
[snip]

I have noticed that my message arrived mangled. Pls. accept my
apologies, but it wasn't up to me. The regime in my country has it with
dissidents like me. You can see how I post on forums.gentoo.org where
they have no influence. I am not so ignorant as one would be led to believe.
I will try to repair the message. I will do my best.
Some things, like the PGP signature's BEGIN PGP  etc. containing dashes,
that were converted, duing delivery, by third party into something
unintelligible, I don't know how to avoid being mangled again...
But you can see on
http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mencoder-users/ if you search for
Miroslav Rovis
how it shows just fine, when not mangled maliciously.

Really sorry! If this try fails as miserably as the previous, pls. look
up later at forums.gentoo.org . I will send just a link to where I will
post normally viewable message. Follows my final attempt with the
message. Thank you!


Hi everyone!
I am in doubt whether to write to this list, or to pulseaudio list.
But I thought there might be either some specific workaround that we
hopefully will get to, or plain explanations that will later be useful
to other Cinelerra users, or even maybe some bugs still there in
Cinelerra, just maybe...
So I think this is the place.
My question will be: how to get Cinelerra audio playback to work, and
here follows the situation.

PulseAudio installed and working (but not for Cinelerra).
Examples of (mostly working fine: vlc and mplayer) follow.

I thought hard whether to pastebin the pacmd list-sink-inputs and
list-source-outputs, and I decided they're just within limits for a mail
text attachment. I hope readers won't find them excessive, but useful.

### vlc ###
###
Pls. view:
pulseaudio_vlc_OK

I also fired up the pavucontrol GUI, during which I noticed on my konsole
in the output:
DEBUG: Ignoring sink-input due to it being designated as an event and
thus handled by the Event widget
But I am unsure if that helps diagnose the problem, pls. see later that
the same message also appears during
cinelerramutedplayback in question...

In the pavucontrol GUI, the tabs:
Playback
and Output Devices

have a nicepulsating volume indicatoraccording-to-current-playback-volume.
Because all is well with vlc and pulseaudio interaction.


### mplayer ###
###
Pls. view:
pulseaudio_mplayer_OK

I fired up the pavucontrol GUI again (or just left it running), during
which I noticed on my konsole
in the output:
Even though I noticed
(pavucontrol): DEBUG: Failed to initialize device manager
extension: No such extension
I don't think that mattered much, because the playback of different
files at first was just fine.
That error, just as the previous one above, the one during vlc playback,
show during cinelerra playback at different times as well.
The mplayer playback of different files was, at first fine, I was
saying. Because I did notice later, but after cinelerra muted playback,
that some merely audio files (no video), didn't play, but instead got
stuck, like this:

Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
libavcodec version 53.60.100 (external)
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 111.6 kbit/7.27% (ratio: 13949-192000)
Selected audio codec: [ffaac] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4
Audio))
==
AO: [pulse] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Video: no video
Starting playback...
A:   0.0 (00.0) of 892.8 (14:52.7) ??,?%
Audio device got stuck!
A:   0.2 (00.1) of 892.8 (14:52.7)  0.3%
Audio device got stuck!
A:   0.3 (00.3) of 892.8 (14:52.7)  0.3%
Audio device got stuck!
A:   0.5 (00.5) of 892.8 (14:52.7)  0.4%
Audio device got stuck!
A:   0.7 (00.6) of 892.8 (14:52.7)  0.4%
Audio device got stuck!

But I was able to get it in a while, and I have a hunch that it was only
temporarily confused by the state induced by cinelerra muted playback.


### cinelerra ###
#
Pls. view:
pulseaudio_cinelerra_BAD

Sure enough, I fired up the pavucontrol GUI just the same, and I don't
know if  this error is much indicative of anything:

(pavucontrol): DEBUG: Ignoring sink-input due to it being
designated as an event and thus handled by the Event widget

or the other:
(pavucontrol): DEBUG: Failed to initialize device manager
extension: No such extension

Because, they both showed with vlc and mplayer, while all was fine with
their playback.

In the pavucontrol GUI, the tabs:
Playback
and Output Devices

there is no pulsating volume indicator whatsoever.

So. where do I go from here?

And how do I get to hear what cinelerra is playing?

Any advice or insight of advanced and experienced users and esp.
Cinelerra