Re: [c-nsp] WS-X6724-SFP and 7600 S Chassis with RSP720-3CXL

2008-02-17 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Gert Doering  wrote on Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:25 PM:

 Hi,
 
 On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 01:04:13PM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote:
 And actually, as another poster pointed out, ES20 isn't 10k
 more, but same price as SIP600+1x10GE.
 
 Which makes it actually quite interesting (... if it would work with
 SXF/SXH software, but that's a separate issue).
 
 Can the ES20 interfaces do MAC accounting?

yes, according to
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/core/cis7600/es20lc/bald
ovw.htm#wp1104186

oli
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Re: [c-nsp] Windows networking across subnets

2008-02-17 Thread Ziv Leyes
I'm not sure what's your scenario, but I'll describe you a working one
A router wih both subnets on the same interface, such as:

interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0 secondary
 ip directed-broadcast
!


Then, from a PC with the IP address 192.168.1.2 open the StartRun window and 
type \\192.168.2.2  (make sure that PC has some shared folder)
This way there's no reason you can't see the other PC sharing, without needing 
DNS, WINS, AD or whatever...
What else do they need?
Regards,

Ziv

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To: james edwards
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Windows networking across subnets


 MS 2000.

 I am just looking to see if there is a router/network hardware solution for
 this. The do not want to map drives,
 they want to see all shares/printers in Network Barrio. Welcome to
 government. If there is not a network solution
 that is all I need to know; then it becomes not my problem.


Not really a Windows guy either, but if you are running NBT (netbios
over tcp), to get all the entries in
the network neighborhood you would have to run a WINS server.  If you
disable NBT in
favor of raw smb over TCP, I'm not sure but I'd guess the WINS
functionality was put into active directory.

Mike


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Re: [c-nsp] DHCP Option 82 Oddities

2008-02-17 Thread Ziv Leyes
Don't you know that every vendor will call an unresolved or less important bug 
a feature? Therefore there won't be any fixes, because you don't fix 
something if it's not broken...
:)
Ziv



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Travis
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] DHCP Option 82 Oddities

I had seem that document.
I was hoping someone would have a fix to this feature ;)



On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  We just turned on DHCP Option 82 on our Cisco switches and we are seeing
  some oddities in the logs.
  The switch seems to relay the incorrect port number to the logs.
  For instance, if a device is connected to 1/0/4, the logs will show
 1/0/6.
  The difference of 2 is consistent until we get to higher port numbers,
  around port 24.  At that point the difference increases to 4.  So if a
  device is connected to 1/0/40, the log says it's connected to 1/0/44.
 
  Has anyone else encountered this error? Is there anything that has to be
  configured on the switch to fix this?
  It seems to be an error in the way the switch relays the information.

 This is documented (well, at least part of it), and therefore it's a
 feature not a bug :-)

 See for instance


 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps5023/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00808e0574.html#wp1069615

 In the port field of the circuit-ID suboption, the port numbers start
 at 3. For example, on a switch with 24 10/100 ports and small
 form-factor pluggable (SFP) module slots, port 3 is the Fast Ethernet
 x/0/1 port, port 4 is the Fast Ethernet x/0/2 port, and so forth,
 where x is the stack member number. Port 27 is the SFP module slot
 x/0/1, and so forth.

 Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [c-nsp] HSRP With Multicast

2008-02-17 Thread Reinhold Fischer
On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 08:29:27PM +0530, Hitesh Vinzoda wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I m having a HSRP running between two 4507 and PIM Sparse on SVI's of both
 the interface. I had configured Static RP for multicast for a specific
 group. Now the problem is when PIM Sparse is enabled on HSRP interfaces
 (SVI's on both 4507 ) multicast doesnt work. when i remove from any one of
 them, it works !!!
 
 Can neone tell me that whether it is problem with DR ( Designated router) or
 what...  i want to have PIM Sparse enabled on both the SVI's.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Ronnie


See 

http://tinyurl.com/yv38qc

IP Multicast - Why Doesn't PIM Sparse Mode Work with a Static Route to an HSRP 
Address?  Document ID: 13783


Faced myself in a similar situation and had to change to dynamic routing 
protocols to get pim sparse mode to work.

hth

Reinhold
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[c-nsp] Switch 3750-24p / ratelimit and/or traffic shaping

2008-02-17 Thread Cedric Gavage
Hi,

I'm not (yet) familiar with Cisco switches... but what is the best 
solution to do ratelimit/shaping on one interface...

The goal is to limit the bandwith for one computer connected on one 
interface... For example, to authorize max 5 Mbits for this computer 
(incoming and outgoing traffic)...

If you have some documentation or a example (better)... it will be great ;)

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [c-nsp] Switch 3750-24p / ratelimit and/or traffic shaping

2008-02-17 Thread Brad Henshaw
Cedric Gavage wrote:
 
 The goal is to limit the bandwith for one computer connected on one
 interface... For example, to authorize max 5 Mbits for this computer
 (incoming and outgoing traffic)...
 
The best you can hope for is to rate-limit outbound traffic to the PC and 
police it inbound from the PC. Policing will impact TCP flows pretty badly.
 
Assuming a 100Mbps connection to the PC:
 
policy-map police-5mbps
 class class-default
  police 500 bc 8000 exceed-action drop
 
int fa x/y
  srr-queue bandwidth limit 10
  service-policy input police-5mbps
 
Note:
'srr-queue bandwidth limit' specifies a percentage of the port speed which will 
be used for egress rate limiting. 10 is the minimum value - so in this example, 
assuming a 100Mbps connection, traffic will be limited to 10Mbps. If you forced 
the port to 10Mbps you could limit it to 5Mbps by setting the limit to '50'.
 
Alternatively if all traffic to this PC is always entering the switch via a 
known port you could apply an ingress policy-map with a policer at that point.
 
Check the software configuration guide for the particular IOS version you're 
running on the 3750 for more info.
 
Regards,
Brad
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Re: [c-nsp] Windows networking across subnets

2008-02-17 Thread Robert Boyle
At 01:39 PM 2/14/2008, Mike Blodgett wrote:

  MS 2000.
 
  I am just looking to see if there is a router/network hardware solution for
  this. The do not want to map drives,
  they want to see all shares/printers in Network Barrio. Welcome to
  government. If there is not a network solution
  that is all I need to know; then it becomes not my problem.
 
 
Not really a Windows guy either, but if you are running NBT (netbios
over tcp), to get all the entries in
the network neighborhood you would have to run a WINS server.  If you
disable NBT in
favor of raw smb over TCP, I'm not sure but I'd guess the WINS
functionality was put into active directory.

WINS is old technology from Windows NT and hasn't been needed for WAN 
networking with Windows since 2000. If you are using active directory 
and only use Windows 2000/2003/2008/XP/Vista computers and haven't 
restricted any ports needed by Windows networking, just set the 
remote side to use the AD servers for DNS and the remote machines 
will register themselves and everything will just work. Obviously, 
all computers you want to talk need to have their default gateway and 
netmask set appropriately too.

-Robert



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Re: [c-nsp] 10G vs. EtherChannel over WDM MUX on 7600

2008-02-17 Thread Phil Bedard
The Etherchannel depends on your traffic makeup.  If you have a ton of  
traffic between two hosts, then it's not going to do you much good.   
For something like an Internet distribution of src/dst it works very  
well.

You should have no issues with Etherchannel over CWDM, it's agnostic  
to the transport mechanism, and many have done it beofre.  A passive  
CWDM mux is going to be a little cheaper than buying 10G cards for the  
7600, and offers more flexibility.   That being said I'd probably do  
the 10G straight away if you have the money to do so, but Etherchannel 
+CWDM has some additional benefits when it comes to protection against  
interface failure.

Phil

On Feb 16, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Zahid Hassan wrote:

 Dear All,


 I am trying to increase bandwidth between my 7600s running as
 PE/P routers with 1G line cards terminating dark fibre links.

 I am exploring the following two options:

 Option I
 -
 - replace the 1G lines cards with 10G on the 7600s
 - terminate the dark fibre links on the 10G line cards

 Option II
 --
 - terminate the dark fibre links on passive CWDM MUX
 - EtherChannel multiple 1G interfaces over CWDM MUX


 My main concern is about the efficiency of different load-balancing
 algorithm offered in the EtherChannel technology in terms of maximum
 achievable bandwidth.

 Also, is there any issues of running Etherchannel over passive CWDM  
 MUX ?


 I will be really grateful for any comments or inputs on this.


 Regards,


 Zahid

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Re: [c-nsp] 10G vs. EtherChannel over WDM MUX on 7600

2008-02-17 Thread Ian McDonald

 
 Phil
 
 On Feb 16, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Zahid Hassan wrote:
 
 Dear All,


 I am trying to increase bandwidth between my 7600s running as
 PE/P routers with 1G line cards terminating dark fibre links.

 I am exploring the following two options:

 Option I
 -
 - replace the 1G lines cards with 10G on the 7600s
 - terminate the dark fibre links on the 10G line cards

Do the 1G cards have to come out? See below.


 Option II
 --
 - terminate the dark fibre links on passive CWDM MUX
 - EtherChannel multiple 1G interfaces over CWDM MUX



If you were to run *D* WDM, you could run 10G and 1G MUXed over the same 
fibre, offering card/xenpak failure protection, giving you some 
connectivity in the event of a 10G failure. Or even multiple 10G, to 
save you from individual XenPak, but perhaps not linecard failure. 
Depends how much money you want to spend, and what your topology is.

I've 1G links running alongside my 10G, as all my 10G in each chassis is 
on one card, and I decided that all my eggs in one slot was not too 
clever an idea (as rare as linecard failures seem to be ;) ). That said, 
I've lots of pairs, as it's a campus environment, and I just added the 
10G alongside my existing 1G links.

--
ian
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[c-nsp] Bizarre MPLS label problem, hex value?

2008-02-17 Thread Nathan
Hi,

I've tried all the MPLS troubleshooting docs I've been able to find,
and hard resets of BGP sessions, but I must be missing something.

I have four routers in a row, A B C D, I want packets to go inside a
VRF from A to D. Packets travel from B to D without any problem, but
not from A to D. My problem is general over all the VRFs I have
tested. I've chosen as example a vrf in which all the routers
concerned have interfaces (so they're all PE routers . . . that's not
a problem, is it?)

A#sh ip cef vrf ${vrf} 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
0.0.0.0/0, version 109, epoch 0, cached adjacency ${B as seen from A}
0 packets, 0 bytes
  tag information set
local tag: VPN-route-head
fast tag rewrite with
Recursive rewrite via ${D loopback} 0x20, tags imposed {413}
  via ${D loopback}, 0 dependencies, recursive
next hop ${B as seen from A}, GigabitEthernet0/1.7 via ${D loopback}/32
valid cached adjacency
tag rewrite with
Recursive rewrite via ${D loopback} 0x20, tags imposed {413}

What does that 0x20 mean??

I would have expected something like what I get when I try the same
diagnostics starting from router B :

B#sh ip cef vrf ${vrf} 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
0.0.0.0/0, version 105, epoch 0, cached adjacency ${C as seen from B}
0 packets, 0 bytes
  tag information set
local tag: VPN-route-head
fast tag rewrite with Fa6/0, ${C as seen from B}, tags
imposed: {396 413}
  via ${D loopback}, 0 dependencies, recursive
next hop ${C as seen from B}, FastEthernet6/0 via ${D loopback}/32
valid cached adjacency
tag rewrite with Fa6/0, ${C as seen from B}, tags imposed: {396 413}

C#sh mpls forwarding-table labels 396
Local  OutgoingPrefixBytes tag  Outgoing   Next Hop
tagtag or VC   or Tunnel Id  switched   interface
396Pop tag ${D loopback}/32   157406938041 Fa1/0  ${D
seen from C}

D#sh mpls forwarding-table labels 413
Local  OutgoingPrefixBytes tag  Outgoing   Next Hop
tagtag or VC   or Tunnel Id  switched   interface
413Untagged0.0.0.0/0[V]  1076956933 Fa0/0.12   192.168.12.4

If I understand correctly, the MPBGP session between A and D is
OK, but something is stopping A from learning the local tag on
B . . . the local tag that I would have expected to see instead of
VPN-route-head when I did the sh ip cef on B. The BGP sessions
between the two look OK :

B#sh ip bgp ne ${A loopback} | b For address family: VPNv4 Unicast
 For address family: VPNv4 Unicast
  BGP table version 449551, neighbor version 449551
  Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
  peer-group-mpls peer-group member
 Sent   Rcvd
  Prefix activity:      
Prefixes Current:   0 59 (Consumes 3840 bytes)
Prefixes Total:88 59
Implicit Withdraw: 88  0
Explicit Withdraw:  0  0
Used as bestpath: n/a 60
Used as multipath:n/a  0

   OutboundInbound
  Local Policy Denied Prefixes:---
VPN Imported prefix: 29n/a
Bestpath from this peer: 59n/a
Bestpath from iBGP peer:   2624n/a
Total: 2712  0
  Number of NLRIs in the update sent: max 29, min 0

  Connections established 7; dropped 6
  Last reset 01:42:21, due to Peer closed the session
Connection state is ESTAB, I/O status: 1, unread input bytes: 0

A#sh ip bgp ne ${B loopback} | b For address family: VPNv4 Unicast
 For address family: VPNv4 Unicast
  BGP table version 419097, neighbor version 419097
  Index 1, Offset 0, Mask 0x2
  peer-group-mpls peer-group member
 Sent   Rcvd
  Prefix activity:      
Prefixes Current:  60 44 (Consumes 2816 bytes)
Prefixes Total:60 88
Implicit Withdraw: 60 44
Explicit Withdraw:  0  0
Used as bestpath: n/a 43
Used as multipath:n/a  0

   OutboundInbound
  Local Policy Denied Prefixes:---
Suppressed duplicate: 0 44
VPN Imported prefix: 19n/a
Bestpath from this peer:  1n/a
Bestpath from iBGP peer:   2374n/a
Total: 2394 44
  Number of NLRIs in the update sent: max 61, min 0

  Connections established 4; dropped 3
  Last reset 

Re: [c-nsp] cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 63, Issue 71

2008-02-17 Thread Rob Montgomery
Anyone seen this:   Have a router set up with one static NAT translation for
remote access.  About every other day, the ability to RDP in from the
outside is lost.  To restore, I have to no the command and then re-enter
it.  And then it works.  no other functionality is lost (site-to-site VPN,
user access to Internet, default gateway, etc., all remain good).  I have
looked at the debug options but it seems with nat, it is either all or
nothing.which plays havoc with a syslog server.

Rob


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Re: [c-nsp] SmartNet coverage on Cisco's chassis-based products

2008-02-17 Thread Brett Frankenberger
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 05:28:09PM -0600, Justin Shore wrote:
 Tony Varriale wrote:
  Are they cheaper once you buy the software license?  Let's not forget, 
  the software license is not transferrable.
  
  That's a typical oops not only in this method but from 3rd party resellers.
 
 This may be blasphemy here but I'm really surprised that no one has ever 
 taken the big C to court on this particular issue because C would almost 
 certainly lose.  

It's difficult for a customer to initiate the legal action, because
they'd be asking the court to rule on a hypothetical (i.e. asking the
court to declare that if the customer were to attempt to use a
transferred license, they'd not be violating any of Cisco's rights)
or publicly stating that they had breached Cisco's interpretation and
asking the court to say that no violation of Cisco's rights had
occurred.

Courts don't generally do that (and, in the latter case, a company
probably wouldn't publicly admit their violation of Cisco's
interpretation, because there's no advantage do doing so).

What courts are good at is ruling on actual claims.  So, here, what
we'd need is for (1) Cisco to demand a relicensing fee from a customer
using transferred software, (2) that customer to refuse to pay, and
(3) Cisco to sue that customer.

That's unlikely to happen, becasue the risk/reward to Cisco for filing
suit just isn't there.  If Cisco sues and loses, then everyone starts
transferring licenses, because a judge said it was legal.  That's a big
risk, considering that currently, most customers play by Cisco's
interpretation already, just out of fear that Cisco might win.  So,
basically, the potential reward of suing is that the small percentage
of people running on transferred licenses would start paying; the risk
is that a judge tells the world that Cisco's interpretation is
unenforcable.  There's no reason at all for Cisco to take the risk.

 Microsoft fought that battle against people selling the 
 copy of Windows that came bundled with their PC or their PC and OS when 
 they bought a new model.  MS lost and set a perfect precedent.  The 
 courts found that the Doctrine of first sale does apply to OSs and 
 bundled software.  (see Softman v. Adobe)   Just because C calls it a 
 license doesn't mean that it actually is.

To be clear, I think Cisco's position is unenforcable and that they'd
lose in court.  But the situation with Cisco is more complicated,
because customers with SmartNet often aren't running the IOS that came
with the box; they've upgraded (as allowed by their SmartNet contract)
over time.  While the right to transfer the software that came with the
box might be clearly established, the right to transfer the software
obtained pursuant to a SmartNet contract isn't as clear.

 Not that I want to take on the Big C.  It is something that I've
 wondered about for years.  If MS, Adobe and others were slapped down by
 the courts on this very thing then why not the Big C?

Cisco hasn't make the mistake of suing anyone.

 -- Brett
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Re: [c-nsp] Bizarre MPLS label problem, hex value?

2008-02-17 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Nathan  wrote on Monday, February 18, 2008 12:59 AM:

 Hi,
 
 I've tried all the MPLS troubleshooting docs I've been able to find,
 and hard resets of BGP sessions, but I must be missing something.
 
 I have four routers in a row, A B C D, I want packets to go inside a
 VRF from A to D. Packets travel from B to D without any problem, but
 not from A to D. My problem is general over all the VRFs I have
 tested. I've chosen as example a vrf in which all the routers
 concerned have interfaces (so they're all PE routers . . . that's not
 a problem, is it?)

No, it's not. B and C will act as P routers for an LSP from A to D.

 A#sh ip cef vrf ${vrf} 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
 0.0.0.0/0, version 109, epoch 0, cached adjacency ${B as seen
 from A} 0 packets, 0 bytes
   tag information set
 local tag: VPN-route-head
 fast tag rewrite with
 Recursive rewrite via ${D loopback} 0x20, tags imposed
   {413} via ${D loopback}, 0 dependencies, recursive
 next hop ${B as seen from A}, GigabitEthernet0/1.7 via ${D
 loopback}/32 valid cached adjacency
 tag rewrite with
 Recursive rewrite via ${D loopback} 0x20, tags imposed
 {413} 
 
 What does that 0x20 mean??

I don't know offhand, but in order to proceed, you need to follow the
recursion to find out the outer (IGP/LDP) label of the packet. The 413
shown above is the vpn label received via MBGP.
A seems to have multiple paths to D, so the final label stack will be
determined at run-time.
Please do show ip cef ${D loopback} on A to find out.

 
 I would have expected something like what I get when I try the same
 diagnostics starting from router B :
 
 B#sh ip cef vrf ${vrf} 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
 0.0.0.0/0, version 105, epoch 0, cached adjacency ${C as seen
 from B} 0 packets, 0 bytes
   tag information set
 local tag: VPN-route-head
 fast tag rewrite with Fa6/0, ${C as seen from B}, tags
 imposed: {396 413}
   via ${D loopback}, 0 dependencies, recursive
 next hop ${C as seen from B}, FastEthernet6/0 via ${D
 loopback}/32 valid cached adjacency
 tag rewrite with Fa6/0, ${C as seen from B}, tags imposed:
 {396 413} 

B only has a single IGP path to D, so the full label stack is printed.

 C#sh mpls forwarding-table labels 396
 Local  OutgoingPrefixBytes tag  Outgoing   Next
 Hop tagtag or VC   or Tunnel Id  switched   interface
 396Pop tag ${D loopback}/32   157406938041 Fa1/0  ${D
 seen from C}
 
 D#sh mpls forwarding-table labels 413
 Local  OutgoingPrefixBytes tag  Outgoing   Next
 Hop tagtag or VC   or Tunnel Id  switched   interface
 413Untagged0.0.0.0/0[V]  1076956933 Fa0/0.12  
 192.168.12.4 
 
 If I understand correctly, the MPBGP session between A and D is
 OK, but something is stopping A from learning the local tag on
 B . . . the local tag that I would have expected to see instead of
 VPN-route-head when I did the sh ip cef on B. 

As explained above: A looks to have multiple IGP paths, so you need to
do the recursion yourself and verify all possible paths.

oli
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Re: [c-nsp] ASA 7.2(3) SNMP issues?

2008-02-17 Thread Frank Schadwill
Hi,

On Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:38 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Brian Landers wrote:
 
  On Feb 15, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Jeff Kell wrote:
  
   Recently upgraded 7.2(2) - 7.2(3)12 and our network monitors
   stopped reading interface stats off the ASAs.  Anyone know of
   any issues? 
   
   We can get system status fine, so it's not an SNMP permissions
   issue; but interface stats disappeared.
  
  We saw the same issue when going from 7.2(3) - 7.2(3)12. Going
  back to 7.2(3) release fixed it.  Nothing I can find in Bug
  Toolkit or the 
  7.2(3) interim release notes to explain it, though.
 
 I also ran into this; it appears you can snmpwalk the
 counters in IF-MIB
 but you can't snmpget them:
 
 % snmpwalk -v 2c -c blah asa .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.6
 IF-MIB::ifHCInOctets.1 = Counter64: 11871409813
 IF-MIB::ifHCInOctets.2 = Counter64: 58711253205
 IF-MIB::ifHCInOctets.3 = Counter64: 504682365
 IF-MIB::ifHCInOctets.4 = Counter64: 2510676
 IF-MIB::ifHCInOctets.5 = Counter64: 0
 
 % snmpget -v 2c -c blah asa .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.6.1
 IF-MIB::ifHCInOctets.1 = No Such Instance currently exists at this
 OID 
 
 I keep forgetting to submit the bug to Cisco, mostly because
 7.2(3) works
 well enough for me and our particular configs aren't affected by
 the security issue it has... 

yes, there is a bug:

 Version 7.2.3.12 is affected by bug CSCsl88067 which is the issue
 you are having. 

From TAC you got the image 7.2.3.17, there is this issue fixed.

Regards,
Frank


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Re: [c-nsp] Windows networking across subnets

2008-02-17 Thread Joseph Jackson
On 2/17/08, Robert Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 01:39 PM 2/14/2008, Mike Blodgett wrote:

   MS 2000.
  
   I am just looking to see if there is a router/network hardware
 solution for
   this. The do not want to map drives,
   they want to see all shares/printers in Network Barrio. Welcome to
   government. If there is not a network solution
   that is all I need to know; then it becomes not my problem.
  
  
 Not really a Windows guy either, but if you are running NBT (netbios
 over tcp), to get all the entries in
 the network neighborhood you would have to run a WINS server.  If you
 disable NBT in
 favor of raw smb over TCP, I'm not sure but I'd guess the WINS
 functionality was put into active directory.

 WINS is old technology from Windows NT and hasn't been needed for WAN
 networking with Windows since 2000. If you are using active directory
 and only use Windows 2000/2003/2008/XP/Vista computers and haven't
 restricted any ports needed by Windows networking, just set the
 remote side to use the AD servers for DNS and the remote machines
 will register themselves and everything will just work. Obviously,
 all computers you want to talk need to have their default gateway and
 netmask set appropriately too.

 -Robert


He will need a WINS server if he is wanting what I think he is (I'm a
network guy but our shop is an enterprise windows 2003 AD setup).  What he
is most likely wanting is to beable to see other computers on differnet
subnets through network neighborhood.  There is only two ways to get that to
happen.  1) Set up a WINS server and point all clients to that.  2)Have all
clients be in the same broadcast domain or use IP-helper command to forward
all broadcasts to the subnet that has the DHCP servers (if there are any).
This will then allow you to view computers in network neighborhood.   We had
to do the ip helper setup since the boss didn't want a WINS server.  Also
without broadcast forwarding or a WINS server certain windows based tools
won't work correct if they have to emunerate computers/roles or users.


HTH

Joseph
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