Re: [c-nsp] QOS VLAN
Hello Leslie, it seems that it works fine, see below ! L2_ingress_interface (trunk or access) ! interface GigabitEthernet1/8 switchport mls qos vlan-based ! ! interface Vlan3 service-policy input VQOS ! ! 6503.lab#sh policy-map interface vlan 3 input class CLASS1 Vlan3 Service-policy input: VQOS class-map: CLASS1 (match-all) Match: access-group name ACL1 police : 64000 bps 2000 limit 2000 extended limit Earl in slot 1 : 9414000 bytes 30 second offered rate 82752 bps aggregate-forwarded 7300034 bytes action: transmit exceeded 2113966 bytes action: drop aggregate-forward 62760 bps exceed 18408 bps Regards, Marek On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Leslie Meade wrote: Hmmm I still could not get it to work. But I got it to go on the ASA's Thanks for the help -Original Message- From: Marek Tyban [mailto:m...@vol.cz] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:08 AM To: Leslie Meade Cc: cisco-nsp Subject: Re: [c-nsp] QOS VLAN Hello Leslie, to accomplish this you need enable vlan based QoS (mls qos vlan-based). m. On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Leslie Meade wrote: I have a 6509e with a sup 32, and I want to control how much bandwidth is available to each vlan. My uploading is working fine but I do not know understand why my users on this vlan or any vlan still pulls down lots of data. I have been told that I cannot do this because the equipment is not suited to my needs. This is what I have policy-map 4_Mb_Internet class class-default police cir 4194000 bc 491515 be 491515 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop violate-action drop interface Vlan4 description 2012 Camera Feed ip address 10.1.4.2 255.255.255.0 ip access-group Productions in ip helper-address 10.1.6.10 no ip redirects no ip unreachables ip flow ingress ip route-cache flow no ip mroute-cache mls netflow sampling standby 15 ip 10.1.4.1 standby 15 priority 250 standby 15 preempt service-policy input 4_Mb_Internet service-policy output 4_Mb_Internet Any one point me in the right direction Leslie ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] Combined AUX/Console Port, HOW do i use AUX ?
Hi, i need to use the AUX port on a Cisco 876, but there ist only a Combined AUX/CON Port. we need to use PAD on the AUX Port and need to know how the router decides what is active console or aux ??? Cheers Anton Anton Schweitzer Senior Specialist BS Projekt Service Customer Design o2 (Germany) GmbH Co.OHG Georg Brauchle-Ring 23-25, D-80992 München Tel +49(0)89-2442-5794 Mobil +49(0)176-23407715 Fax +49(0)89-2442-4281 anton.schweit...@o2.com Ein Beitrag zum Umweltschutz. Nicht jede E-Mail muss ausgedruckt werden. http://www.o2engagiert-fuer-morgen.de Telefónica o2 Germany GmbH Co. OHG • Georg-Brauchle-Ring 23-25 • 80992 München • Deutschland • www.o2.com/de Ust.-Id.-Nr. DE 811 889 638. Amtsgericht München HRA 70343. Gesellschafter: Telefónica o2 Germany Management GmbH. Amtsgericht München HRB 109061 und Telefónica o2 Germany Verwaltungs GmbH. Amtsgericht München HRB 121389, beide ebenda. Geschäftsführer beider Gesellschafter: Jaime Smith Basterra, Vorsitzender. Antonio Botas Banuelos. Andrea Folgueiras. André Krause. Lutz Schüler. Carsten Wreth. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] Diagnostic errors in 6513
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, We have a Cisco 6513 in production that is having some problems. After the switch runs its daily diagnostics on each of the modules, most of the line cards stop passing traffic. As a workaround, I have disabled diagnostics on all of the modules. Initially, Cisco TAC said this was a known bug. However after I have upgraded from SXH2 to SXH4 and eventually to s72033-ipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXI.bin, they are now leaning towards hardware problems. If I have to replace this chassis, it will be the second time in two months. In addition, I have replaced two of the line cards in December. As we have only had this switch for 18 months, this is a lot in a short period of time. Has anyone else had these problems with the 6500s? Dec 21 06:41:08 172.16.4.158 189: Dec 21 06:41:03.261 EST: %CONST_DIAG-SP-4-ERROR_ COUNTER_DATA: ID:60 IN:0 PO:255 RE:5212 RM:255 DV:1 EG:2 CF:10 TF:1574 Dec 21 06:48:09 172.16.4.158 190: Dec 21 06:48:04.750 EST: %CONST_DIAG-SP-4-ERROR_COUNTER_WARNING: Module 1 Error counter exceeds threshold, system operation continue. Dec 21 06:48:10 172.16.4.158 191: Dec 21 06:48:04.750 EST: %CONST_DIAG-SP-4-ERROR_COUNTER_DATA: ID:60 IN:0 PO:255 RE:5212 RM:255 DV:30 EG:2 CF:10 TF:1585 Jan 13 22:31:27.552 EST: %DIAG-SP-6-DIAG_OK: Module 1: Passed Online Diagnostics Jan 13 22:31:46.339 EST: %HA_EM-6-LOG: Mandatory.go_nondislp.tcl: GOLD EEM TCL policy for TestNonDisruptiveLoopback Mod Ports Card Type Model Serial No. - --- - -- -- - --- 1 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-45AF 2 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-45AF 3 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 4 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 5 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 6 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 75 Supervisor Engine 720 10GE (Active)VS-S720-10G 85 Supervisor Engine 720 10GE (Hot) VS-S720-10G 9 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 10 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 11 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 12 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX Thank you, Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBSXSW799pUgshfvqBAQKsqwgAhSJDJCIeH8sGuTej7q+mYhfWvtyC0Ec1 Q31e943DNsolWOakEu9IY4sHOCDYAoXq8fenZPkUncWzOsBKZ6aTja1INQfHK+4G H0ZiviGTwh9vCHEX3e4PIOrGTZx/DEleTWU7NaWhIwuPv2uXBOLj3g0LTFEGJnUx J8Rp+NpBD5HyeN2zdUKpcFIQsu42uVXAbjiDWN91KrqwZEUr17a4frluF975MXyh AW+nq79BDCq6oTjW5xXKw6uEo+VLS6lzcV+75sPdzshnPJRm15lzTOx3yEEXnRfv Lapui6w6njOWzuejrEvdyEeNNgS170NLvrJKaNLPuMKM4TeiI2oEgA== =1n9/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] BGP Session Teardown due to AS_CONFED_SEQUENCE in AS4_PATH
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After some lab work we have established that the source of the invalid
AS4_PATHs discussed in [1] is likely a non compliant implementation of
RFC4893 (AS4) in some versions of Juniper JunOS.
We have observed the following behaviour with both JunOS 9.3R1.7 and
9.1R2.10, and suspect it may be present in all other JunOS versions
since they introduced AS4 support in 9.1R1. Unfortunately we have
limited resources so have not been able to test with other versions.
When a mix of pre and post 9.1R1 JunOS devices are deployed within a
network utilising confederations the AS4_PATH (if present) is used by
the AS4 supporting devices to hold an AS_CONFED_SET/SEQUENCE. This
behaviour is explicitly forbidden by RFC4893 [3]. If the egress router
from the AS utilising confederations is not AS4-aware the confederation
information is never removed from the AS4_PATH, and is passed onto the
neighbouring networks with the repercussions discussed in [1].
As mentioned in both [1] and [2] this is especially critical as at
present Cisco IOS will tear down sessions when receiving an AS4_PATH
containing an AS_CONFED_SET/SEQUENCE.
Lab setup:
AS1.0 - obgp1 (OpenBGPD)
AS64512 {
~AS65001 - juniper1 (JunOS 9.1 or 9.3) (32 bit ASN support)
~AS65002 - juniper2 (JunOS 8.4) (no 32 bit ASN support)
}
AS64513 - obgp2 (OpenBGPD)
Where AS1.0 is an AS with a 32bit AS number, AS64512 is a Juniper
network using confederations and with mixed AS4 support, and AS64513 is
another network (doesn't matter what it supports.)
On announcing a prefix from obgp1 we observe the following in the UPDATE
from juniper1 to juniper2:
AS_PATH: (65001) 23456
AS4_PATH: (65001) 65536
And at obgp2:
AS_PATH: 64512 23456
AS4_PATH: (65001) 65536
This shows juniper1, which is AS4-aware, adding an AS_CONFED_SET to both
the AS_PATH and AS4_PATH before announcing the prefix to juniper2. As
juniper2 is not AS4-aware it does not strip the AS_CONFED_SET from the
AS4_PATH before announcing it to obgp2, resulting in an invalid AS4_PATH
attribute in the UPDATE to obgp2.
Conclusions:
~ * If you use JunOS and make use of confederations you should ensure
that your entire network either supports AS4 (9.1R1 or later) or doesn't
(pre 9.1.)
~ * While the Juniper implementation is clearly non-compliant with the
standard, and should be corrected, the number of versions in which this
bug is probably present means that these versions will never be
completely eliminated from use.
~ * The flaw in the standard can still be misused maliciously.
We do not see that going forward it will be possible to completely
eliminate the possibility of an AS_CONFED_SET appearing in an AS4_PATH.
We believe that this problem requires a consistent response from the
vendors, and that to facilitate such a response the standard must be
revised. Even if vendors do implement their own workarounds the standard
needs to be revised to ensure that future implementers don't fall into
this trap.
Regards,
~Andy Davidson, NetSumo (andy.david...@netsumo.com),
~Jonathan Oddy, Hostway UK (jonathan.o...@hostway.co.uk),
~Rob Shakir, GX Networks (r...@eng.gxn.net)
[1] http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg14345.html
[2] http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg14388.html
[3] From RFC4893 section 3:
~ To prevent the possible propagation of confederation path segments
~ outside of a confederation, the path segment types AS_CONFED_SEQUENCE
~ and AS_CONFED_SET [RFC3065] are declared invalid for the AS4_PATH
~ attribute.
Thanks to Dan Goscomb (Goscomb Tech) for loan of a J2320 for the lab.
Thanks to Will Hargrave (LONAP) for assistance with this document.
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Jonathan Oddy
Hostway UK
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Re: [c-nsp] LNS for 500-1000
For this scale (and assuming 10Mbps per user) a 7201 would be great. Arie -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Vects Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 17:12 To: 'Cisco-nsp' Subject: [c-nsp] LNS for 500-1000 Hello there, I need to install small LNS for 500-1000 concurrent customers in order to implement per user rate limit/ACL assigned by radius. I'm planing to use l2tp. Please advise what minimal model of cisco I can use for that purpose? Thanks, Alexc. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Diagnostic errors in 6513
I do not recall bad problems with the 6148 or the 6513 chassis. Did you replace your chassis originally and it didn't fix the problem? If not, why did you replace the chassis? Do you have the default tests on or modified? tv - Original Message - From: Christina Klam ck...@ias.edu To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 9:06 AM Subject: [c-nsp] Diagnostic errors in 6513 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, We have a Cisco 6513 in production that is having some problems. After the switch runs its daily diagnostics on each of the modules, most of the line cards stop passing traffic. As a workaround, I have disabled diagnostics on all of the modules. Initially, Cisco TAC said this was a known bug. However after I have upgraded from SXH2 to SXH4 and eventually to s72033-ipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXI.bin, they are now leaning towards hardware problems. If I have to replace this chassis, it will be the second time in two months. In addition, I have replaced two of the line cards in December. As we have only had this switch for 18 months, this is a lot in a short period of time. Has anyone else had these problems with the 6500s? Dec 21 06:41:08 172.16.4.158 189: Dec 21 06:41:03.261 EST: %CONST_DIAG-SP-4-ERROR_ COUNTER_DATA: ID:60 IN:0 PO:255 RE:5212 RM:255 DV:1 EG:2 CF:10 TF:1574 Dec 21 06:48:09 172.16.4.158 190: Dec 21 06:48:04.750 EST: %CONST_DIAG-SP-4-ERROR_COUNTER_WARNING: Module 1 Error counter exceeds threshold, system operation continue. Dec 21 06:48:10 172.16.4.158 191: Dec 21 06:48:04.750 EST: %CONST_DIAG-SP-4-ERROR_COUNTER_DATA: ID:60 IN:0 PO:255 RE:5212 RM:255 DV:30 EG:2 CF:10 TF:1585 Jan 13 22:31:27.552 EST: %DIAG-SP-6-DIAG_OK: Module 1: Passed Online Diagnostics Jan 13 22:31:46.339 EST: %HA_EM-6-LOG: Mandatory.go_nondislp.tcl: GOLD EEM TCL policy for TestNonDisruptiveLoopback Mod Ports Card Type Model Serial No. - --- - -- -- - --- 1 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-45AF 2 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-45AF 3 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 4 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 5 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 6 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 75 Supervisor Engine 720 10GE (Active)VS-S720-10G 85 Supervisor Engine 720 10GE (Hot) VS-S720-10G 9 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 10 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 11 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX 12 48 48-port 10/100/1000 RJ45 EtherModule WS-X6148A-GE-TX Thank you, Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBSXSW799pUgshfvqBAQKsqwgAhSJDJCIeH8sGuTej7q+mYhfWvtyC0Ec1 Q31e943DNsolWOakEu9IY4sHOCDYAoXq8fenZPkUncWzOsBKZ6aTja1INQfHK+4G H0ZiviGTwh9vCHEX3e4PIOrGTZx/DEleTWU7NaWhIwuPv2uXBOLj3g0LTFEGJnUx J8Rp+NpBD5HyeN2zdUKpcFIQsu42uVXAbjiDWN91KrqwZEUr17a4frluF975MXyh AW+nq79BDCq6oTjW5xXKw6uEo+VLS6lzcV+75sPdzshnPJRm15lzTOx3yEEXnRfv Lapui6w6njOWzuejrEvdyEeNNgS170NLvrJKaNLPuMKM4TeiI2oEgA== =1n9/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] BGP Question
and a static route pointing to the outgoing interface On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 17:24, Arne Larsen / Region Nordjylland a...@rn.dkwrote: If an EBGP peer is more than one hop away from the local router, you must specify the next hop to the peer so that the two systems can establish a BGP session. neighbor x.x.x.x remote-as xxx neighbor x.x.x.x ebgp-multihop /Arne -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] På vegne af tkacprzyn...@spencerstuart.com Sendt: 15. januar 2009 23:13 Til: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Emne: [c-nsp] BGP Question Hello, I'm trying to figure out if this configuration can be accomplished. Topology CPE---CE---PE Internet ASN 1 ASN 3 I'm trying to figure out a way where CPE and PE is peering with each other, where CE is not using iBGP between PE but can still filter some of the routes from PE. The PE can't really have any custom configuration except simple neighboring. I have more flexibility with the CE. The PE basically has a lot of summary routes that I need to make more specific, but can't really change much on the PE, the idea is to use the CE to modify them then send the CPE more specific routes based on the summary routes. The requirement for more specific routers is there to eliminate some asymmetric routing (other links not shown). I was looking at Local-AS and whether that could help. Not sure. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you Tom ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] EoMPLS termination into L3 VRF
Hi,Does anyone know how to terminate EoMPLS (point to point service) on 7600 (ES20 cards) into a L3 VRF. Documentation say that it can be done but I can't find any examples. We do not want to create xconnect under EVC interface because this way we would waste an interface. It should be something like: intf vlan 10 vrf name ip address x.x.x.x xconnect y.y.y.y 100 mpls- the problem with this is that this has to be in the global context so that it can see remote PE. With this, it looks like it is defined in the vrf where y.y.y.y (remote PE) does not exist. Thanks, Marlon ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Combined AUX/Console Port, HOW do i use AUX ?
anton.schweit...@o2.com wrote: i need to use the AUX port on a Cisco 876, but there ist only a Combined AUX/CON Port. we need to use PAD on the AUX Port and need to know how the router decides what is active console or aux ??? You need to set 'modem enable' on line con 0 then configure line aux 0. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/access/800/850/software/configur ation/guide/dialbkup.html#wp1015415 I don't know whether PAD is supported on the AUX port of the 870 series but the above should provide a starting point. Personally I find it annoying that Cisco didn't just put both console aux ports on these routers... configuring the console port as an aux port makes on-site management and configuration (when the modem needs to be unplugged) a right pain in the arse. Regards, Brad ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 3750 or 3560?
I have now a requirement and I need PVLANs but they are not supported in the 2960 (as far as I was reading at cisco.com) Private VLAN *Edge* is supported on the Catalyst 2960. See Configuration Guide Configuring Port-Based Traffic Control Configuring Protected Ports. (http://tinyurl.com/7drp4c) -A ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 3750 or 3560?
why click tinyurl.com to redirect to cisco site? Do they have any relationship? Thank you --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists li...@hojmark.org wrote: From: Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists li...@hojmark.org Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 3750 or 3560? To: 'luismi' asturlui...@gmail.com Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Received: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:33 PM I have now a requirement and I need PVLANs but they are not supported in the 2960 (as far as I was reading at cisco.com) Private VLAN *Edge* is supported on the Catalyst 2960. See Configuration Guide Configuring Port-Based Traffic Control Configuring Protected Ports. (http://tinyurl.com/7drp4c) -A ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 3750 or 3560?
ann kok wrote: why click tinyurl.com to redirect to cisco site? Do they have any relationship? Because the Cisco URL in question was long. That's the purpose of TinyURL and services like it. Peace... Sridhar ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] 6513 vs
Hi Can you tell me what is the different between 6513 and local direct in load balancing function? Thank you __ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 3750 or 3560?
ann kok wrote: why click tinyurl.com to redirect to cisco site? Do they have any relationship? Some mail clients break long URLs by throwing in hard line breaks. Tinyurl allows a short link to be sent by email that redirects to the long ugly one. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
