Re: [c-nsp] Console problems

2010-06-17 Thread Ziv Leyes
You can't have both NPE and I/O card console interfaces to work together.
I'm not sure if it's configurable but the default will be the I/O card, so if 
you MUST have the I/O card inserted use the console port on it and not the one 
on the NPE
Ziv


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Subject: [c-nsp] Console problems

I can't seem to come up with the right keyword combination to google this.
I've got a 7206VXR with an NPE-400 and an I/O 2FE/E card.  Using a Belkin
USB to Serial adaptor I can watch the router boot and get to the Press
Return to get Started prompt.  After I hit return the interfaces go up and
then admin down.  After that I can't get anything out of the console.   I
can insert and remove a DS3 card and I will see a message saying the card
was inserted and removed but I can't interact with the box.   I've connected
to a 3550 I have laying here and I am able to get a console session going
with it. Does anyone have any ideas on this one?   Everything I am
googleing relates to the router crashing or hanging which this one does not
seem to do.

Richey

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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Ziv Leyes
Can you post your BGP settings with your peer?
Do you have a maximum-prefix setting on your neighbor peer?

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Hi guys,

Might be a basic question but i couldnt find anything, i have cisco 7606 i
just had a new peering with our upstream provider, but router rebooted when
routes reached 300k, router is not running anything else as well. Any idea?

Cisco CISCO7606-S (M8500) processor (revision 1.0) with 851968K/65536K bytes
of memory.
Processor board ID FOX1310G2VB
 BASEBOARD: RSP720
 CPU: MPC8548_E, Version: 2.0, (0x80390020)
 CORE: E500, Version: 2.0, (0x80210020)
 CPU:1200MHz, CCB:400MHz, DDR:200MHz,
 L1:D-cache 32 kB enabled
I-cache 32 kB enabled

Regards
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[c-nsp] 6506-E module provisioning

2010-06-17 Thread Holemans Wim
I've been searching the cisco website for this but didn't find an answer. We 
have a new 6506-E to replace an old one, and I'll have to move some modules 
between them as we don't have spare ones. Is there a way to 'provision' these 
modules in the config of the new router so I can just copy the old config to 
the new one and won't have to add the config for these modules after the cards 
have been switched ? The modules will move to the same slot in the new router.

Greetings,

Wim Holemans
Network Services

University of Antwerp


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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 02:08:45AM +0300, Raheel Muhammad wrote:
 Might be a basic question but i couldnt find anything, i have cisco 7606 i
 just had a new peering with our upstream provider, but router rebooted when
 routes reached 300k, router is not running anything else as well. Any idea?

Which IOS version?

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Re: [c-nsp] Console problems

2010-06-17 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 09:25:43AM +0300, Ziv Leyes wrote:
 You can't have both NPE and I/O card console interfaces to work together.
 I'm not sure if it's configurable but the default will be the I/O card, so if 
 you MUST have the I/O card inserted use the console port on it and not the 
 one on the NPE

The NPE-400 doesn't have a console port :-) - and *does* require an IO board.

(Your statement is correct for NPE-G1 and NPE-G2).

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 6500 experiencing %CPU_MONITOR-SP-6-NOT_HEARD

2010-06-17 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello again Jeroen,

Looked at the Cisco page regarding resolved caveats regarding 12.2(33)SXH
rebuilds, only found entry CSCsm84267 about %CPU_MONITOR-SP-6-NOT_HEARD but
the symptoms doesn't match our case.

Still digging.

Y.



2010/6/16 Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr

 We run our 6500 as core routers will full BGP feed on each and Route
 Reflection.

 Plus, each core router has multiple Internal BGP peers and multiple
 External BGP peers on different IXPs.

 Yes, CPU is slow but it does the job ;-)

 Thanks.

 Y.



 2010/6/16 Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk

 On 16/06/10 14:10, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote:

 Hello Jeroen,

 Thanks for the feedback. If you can find the bug IDs, please do not
 hesitate
 to send them, it come in handy sometimes.

 I have been thinking of upgrading to SXI3 (why not SXI4, hey ;-) for a
 long
 time and have labed it, all my configs were correctly accepted.

 We are running some basic BGP / MPLS and route reflection on this router,
 have experienced any weird things regarding theese on SXI3 / SXI4 ?


 We run a BGP/MPLS network on 6500/sup720 with SXI3 (previously on SXI
 zero for over a year) with no problems. 2 of the routers are route
 reflectors (yes yes slow CPUs blah - it's ~800 routes and ~20 iBGP peers)
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 6500 experiencing %CPU_MONITOR-SP-6-NOT_HEARD

2010-06-17 Thread Phil Mayers

On 17/06/10 10:00, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote:

Hello again Jeroen,

Looked at the Cisco page regarding resolved caveats regarding
12.2(33)SXH rebuilds, only found entry CSCsm84267 about
%CPU_MONITOR-SP-6-NOT_HEARD but the symptoms doesn't match our case.

Still digging.


Well, my comment was related to whether SXI worked for the feature set 
you asked about, rather than your original %CPU_MONITOR issue.


Having said that: I'm fairly sure the SXH and SXI have significant 
differences in the way IPC happens, some of which is related to ISSU, 
some of which seems to be more aggressive monitoring (or even just 
logging of such)


We've had %XDR_* errors where standby supervisors go away; TAC claimed 
it was a hardware fault, but to my mind that's not credible, especially 
since the hardware passes full GOLD diags in our test chassis, and 
various combinations of reboots and upgrades made it go away.


[Having said that: TAC basically say duh RMA the sup about 50% of the 
time in cases like this. Some engineers seem to think memory corruption 
twice in a row means hardware fault, because of course memory corruption 
can't come from a software bug. We end up having to explain memory 
santiy debug to them, and the fact that corruption might not have been 
caused by the process that triggered the traceback...]


In short; I think all this infrastructure changed from SXF to SXH/SXI 
and I think the early versions had bugs. I know from past experience 
that Cisco don't necessarily expose all bugs fixed in the bug toolkit, 
so there may be a bug that matches yours and I'd just upgrade and see if 
it stops.

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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Raheel Muhammad
Hi,

The version is c7600rsp72043-advipservicesk9-mz.122-33.SRD.bin. No i did
not set maximum prefix option under BGP.

Thanks

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de wrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 02:08:45AM +0300, Raheel Muhammad wrote:
  Might be a basic question but i couldnt find anything, i have cisco 7606
 i
  just had a new peering with our upstream provider, but router rebooted
 when
  routes reached 300k, router is not running anything else as well. Any
 idea?

 Which IOS version?

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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Phil Mayers

On 17/06/10 00:08, Raheel Muhammad wrote:

Hi guys,

Might be a basic question but i couldnt find anything, i have cisco 7606 i
just had a new peering with our upstream provider, but router rebooted when
routes reached 300k, router is not running anything else as well. Any idea?


That's pretty vague.

Did the router log anything before rebooting? I assume you have syslog 
setup? Did you have anything attached to the serial console, and if so 
did it output anything?


What does sh ver say with regards the last reload reason? e.g.

ac-core#sh ver
snip

System returned to ROM by  power cycle at 07:01:04 BST Tue Jun 8 2010 
(SP by power on)

System restarted at 07:12:11 BST Tue Jun 8 2010
System image file is ...
Last reload reason: Reason unspecified

Are there any crashinfo files? Try:

dir bootflash:
dir sup-bootflash:

You say routes reached 300k - are you running XL PFC  DFCs? What does:

sh platform hardware pfc mode

...say?
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Stas Bakulin
Do you use AS path access list? Can you post it?

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2010/6/17 Raheel Muhammad raheel.muham...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 The version is c7600rsp72043-advipservicesk9-mz.122-33.SRD.bin. No i did
 not set maximum prefix option under BGP.

 Thanks

 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de wrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 02:08:45AM +0300, Raheel Muhammad wrote:
  Might be a basic question but i couldnt find anything, i have cisco 7606
 i
  just had a new peering with our upstream provider, but router rebooted
 when
  routes reached 300k, router is not running anything else as well. Any
 idea?

 Which IOS version?

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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Raheel Muhammad
Hi,

Cisco CISCO7606-S (M8500) processor (revision 1.0) with 851968K/65536K bytes
of memory.
Processor board ID FOX1310G2VB
 BASEBOARD: RSP720
 CPU: MPC8548_E, Version: 2.0, (0x80390020)
 CORE: E500, Version: 2.0, (0x80210020)
 CPU:1200MHz, CCB:400MHz, DDR:200MHz,
 L1:D-cache 32 kB enabled
I-cache 32 kB enabled

Last reset from s/w reset
2 SIP-400 controllers (5 GigabitEthernet)(5 POS).
1 Virtual Ethernet interface
9 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
5 Packet over SONET interfaces
3964K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
507024K bytes of Internal ATA PCMCIA card (Sector size 512 bytes).
Configuration register is 0x2102

#sh platform hardware pfc mode
PFC operating mode : PFC3C

No i am not using AS path access-list, its just a straight forward
configuration with route-maps having prefix-lists in it.

Regards,
Raheel




On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.ukwrote:

 On 17/06/10 00:08, Raheel Muhammad wrote:

 Hi guys,

 Might be a basic question but i couldnt find anything, i have cisco 7606 i
 just had a new peering with our upstream provider, but router rebooted
 when
 routes reached 300k, router is not running anything else as well. Any
 idea?


 That's pretty vague.

 Did the router log anything before rebooting? I assume you have syslog
 setup? Did you have anything attached to the serial console, and if so did
 it output anything?

 What does sh ver say with regards the last reload reason? e.g.

 ac-core#sh ver
 snip

 System returned to ROM by  power cycle at 07:01:04 BST Tue Jun 8 2010 (SP
 by power on)
 System restarted at 07:12:11 BST Tue Jun 8 2010
 System image file is ...
 Last reload reason: Reason unspecified

 Are there any crashinfo files? Try:

 dir bootflash:
 dir sup-bootflash:

 You say routes reached 300k - are you running XL PFC  DFCs? What does:

 sh platform hardware pfc mode

 ...say?

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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 14:18 +0300, Raheel Muhammad wrote:
 Got the issue, but what would be the work around for this?  Mqaximum i
 am allowed is 223K.

You need an XL size TCAM to hold more then 239k routes. You can adjust
the TCAM partitioning up to that from 223k with mls cef maximum-routes
ip 239, but there isn't really much point in that now.

Otherwise you'd have to employ filtering on your BGP sessions, e.g.
discarding /24 prefixes or longer. You will then need a default route to
something that has full reachability, and you will have to accept less
than optimal routing in some cases.

-- 
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Raheel Muhammad
Dear All,

Thanks for the replies but it looks like i have to upgrade the RSP but can
anyone tell me that the limitation is for the routes which will be installed
in forwarding table for. e.g. if i am receiving 3 routing tables so it will
be 3xlimit or limit will only be for what is installed in the forwarding
table.

Regards



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Marcus.Gerdon marcus.ger...@versatel.dewrote:

 Raheel,

 I'm not sure about RSP720 models available ad hoc, but based on Sup720 the
 basic hardware only allows for 256k routes at most. Only having a -XL
 version allows for 1m of (v4) routes.

 Your output only shows 'PFC-3C mode' - which tells the current operational
 limit is 256k, but doesn't tell about maximum capacity possible in hardware.

 If you do have a XL deployed (look for PFC-3CXL in 'sh mod') just follow
 the hint given in the error message: use 'mls cef maximum-routes' to
 increase the number of forwarding entries allowed in hardware.

 Should you have got a non-XL and RSP720 being equal to Sup720 in regards to
 capacity (that's the 256k max) you'll need to swap RSP to handle a full BGP
 table.

 Also pay attention to the combination of RSP and DFC's equipped. A XL-RSP
 will operate in non-XL-mode as soon as even a single non-XL-DFC is installed
 in the chassis.


 regards,

 Marcus


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  [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag von
  Raheel Muhammad
  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 13:18
  An: Phil Mayers
  Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Betreff: Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!
 
  Hi,
 
  Got the issue, but what would be the work around for this?
  Mqaximum i am
  allowed is 223K.
 
 
   12:44:10.257: %MLSCEF-SP-4-FIB_EXCEPTION_THRESHOLD: Hardware
  CEF entry usage
  is at 95% capacity for MPLS protocol.
  12:44:09.650: %MLSCEF-SP-STDBY-4-FIB_EXCEPTION_THRESHOLD:
  Hardware CEF entry
  usage is at 95% capacity for MPLS protocol.
  12:44:13.182: %CFIB-SP-STDBY-3-CFIB_EXCEPTION: FIB TCAM
  exception for IPv4
  unicast. Packets through some routes will be dropped.
  Use mls cef maximum-routes to modify the FIB TCAM partition or/and
  consider a hardware upgred.
  Examine your network and collect the necessary information
  from this setup.
  The only way to recover from this state is by reload the  router.
  12:44:12.913: %CFIB-SP-3-CFIB_EXCEPTION: FIB TCAM exception for IPv4
  unicast. Packets through some routes will be dropped.
  Use mls cef maximum-routes to modify the FIB TCAM partition or/and
  consider a hardware upgred.
  Examine your network and collect the necessary information
  from this setup.
  The only way to recover from this state is by reload the  router.
 
 
 
  Regards,
  Raheel
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Raheel Muhammad
  raheel.muham...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  
   Hi,
  
   Cisco CISCO7606-S (M8500) processor (revision 1.0) with
  851968K/65536K
   bytes of memory.
   Processor board ID FOX1310G2VB
BASEBOARD: RSP720
CPU: MPC8548_E, Version: 2.0, (0x80390020)
CORE: E500, Version: 2.0, (0x80210020)
CPU:1200MHz, CCB:400MHz, DDR:200MHz,
L1:D-cache 32 kB enabled
   I-cache 32 kB enabled
  
   Last reset from s/w reset
   2 SIP-400 controllers (5 GigabitEthernet)(5 POS).
   1 Virtual Ethernet interface
   9 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
   5 Packet over SONET interfaces
   3964K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
   507024K bytes of Internal ATA PCMCIA card (Sector size 512 bytes).
   Configuration register is 0x2102
  
   #sh platform hardware pfc mode
   PFC operating mode : PFC3C
  
   No i am not using AS path access-list, its just a straight forward
   configuration with route-maps having prefix-lists in it.
  
   Regards,
   Raheel
  
  
  
  
   On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Phil Mayers
  p.may...@imperial.ac.ukwrote:
  
   On 17/06/10 00:08, Raheel Muhammad wrote:
  
   Hi guys,
  
   Might be a basic question but i couldnt find anything, i
  have cisco 7606
   i
   just had a new peering with our upstream provider, but
  router rebooted
   when
   routes reached 300k, router is not running anything else
  as well. Any
   idea?
  
  
   That's pretty vague.
  
   Did the router log anything before rebooting? I assume you
  have syslog
   setup? Did you have anything attached to the serial
  console, and if so did
   it output anything?
  
   What does sh ver say with regards the last reload reason? e.g.
  
   ac-core#sh ver
   snip
  
   System returned to ROM by  power cycle at 07:01:04 BST Tue
  Jun 8 2010 (SP
   by power on)
   System restarted at 07:12:11 BST Tue Jun 8 2010
   System image file is ...
   Last reload reason: Reason unspecified
  
   Are there any crashinfo files? Try:
  
   dir bootflash:
   dir sup-bootflash:
  
   You say routes reached 300k - are you running XL PFC 
  DFCs? What does:
  
   sh platform hardware pfc mode
  
   ...say?
  
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Phil Mayers

On 17/06/10 12:18, Raheel Muhammad wrote:

Hi,
Got the issue, but what would be the work around for this?  Mqaximum i
am allowed is 223K.


This is one issue; your router is incapable of 300k routes.

The only solution is to:

 1. Upgrade your Sup  linecards DFCs to -XL models
 2. Remove some routes using a route-map

However - AFAIK TCAM exceptions don't normally crash the box; they just 
bring it to a halt as the CPU forwards traffic for routes which don't fit.

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Re: [c-nsp] 6506-E module provisioning

2010-06-17 Thread Cory Ayers
Hello,

 I've been searching the cisco website for this but didn't find an
 answer. We have a new 6506-E to replace an old one, and I'll have to
 move some modules between them as we don't have spare ones. Is there a
 way to 'provision' these modules in the config of the new router so I
 can just copy the old config to the new one and won't have to add the
 config for these modules after the cards have been switched ? The
 modules will move to the same slot in the new router.

If the 6506-E is not yet live, you could copy startup-config to flash:/ or 
ftp:// and then copy it back to startup-config on the new 6506 Supervisor.  At 
that point I would reboot the device to verify that it tries to load the 
configuration and that boot variables haven't been upset.  Once that looks 
good, power the chassis back down, move the cards over, boot it back up and 
compare configs to make sure everything took.  Rancid is excellent for this, 
but you could also use UN*X diff.  Newer IOS allows you to compare from the 
console with:
show archive config differences nvram:startup-config system:running-config

If the 6506-E is already live and in production you could still copy the 
startup-config off to an FTP server, edit the file to only include the relevant 
interfaces, and then copy it back to _running-config_, but you will have to no 
shutdown the interfaces.

HTH

Cory

 
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Marcus.Gerdon
Raheel,

I'm not sure about RSP720 models available ad hoc, but based on Sup720 the 
basic hardware only allows for 256k routes at most. Only having a -XL version 
allows for 1m of (v4) routes. 

Your output only shows 'PFC-3C mode' - which tells the current operational 
limit is 256k, but doesn't tell about maximum capacity possible in hardware.

If you do have a XL deployed (look for PFC-3CXL in 'sh mod') just follow the 
hint given in the error message: use 'mls cef maximum-routes' to increase the 
number of forwarding entries allowed in hardware.

Should you have got a non-XL and RSP720 being equal to Sup720 in regards to 
capacity (that's the 256k max) you'll need to swap RSP to handle a full BGP 
table.

Also pay attention to the combination of RSP and DFC's equipped. A XL-RSP will 
operate in non-XL-mode as soon as even a single non-XL-DFC is installed in the 
chassis.


regards,

Marcus
 

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag von 
 Raheel Muhammad
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 13:18
 An: Phil Mayers
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Betreff: Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!
 
 Hi,
 
 Got the issue, but what would be the work around for this?  
 Mqaximum i am
 allowed is 223K.
 
 
 12:44:10.257: %MLSCEF-SP-4-FIB_EXCEPTION_THRESHOLD: Hardware 
 CEF entry usage
 is at 95% capacity for MPLS protocol.
 12:44:09.650: %MLSCEF-SP-STDBY-4-FIB_EXCEPTION_THRESHOLD: 
 Hardware CEF entry
 usage is at 95% capacity for MPLS protocol.
 12:44:13.182: %CFIB-SP-STDBY-3-CFIB_EXCEPTION: FIB TCAM 
 exception for IPv4
 unicast. Packets through some routes will be dropped.
 Use mls cef maximum-routes to modify the FIB TCAM partition or/and
 consider a hardware upgred.
 Examine your network and collect the necessary information 
 from this setup.
 The only way to recover from this state is by reload the  router.
 12:44:12.913: %CFIB-SP-3-CFIB_EXCEPTION: FIB TCAM exception for IPv4
 unicast. Packets through some routes will be dropped.
 Use mls cef maximum-routes to modify the FIB TCAM partition or/and
 consider a hardware upgred.
 Examine your network and collect the necessary information 
 from this setup.
 The only way to recover from this state is by reload the  router.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Raheel
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Raheel Muhammad
 raheel.muham...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Cisco CISCO7606-S (M8500) processor (revision 1.0) with 
 851968K/65536K
  bytes of memory.
  Processor board ID FOX1310G2VB
   BASEBOARD: RSP720
   CPU: MPC8548_E, Version: 2.0, (0x80390020)
   CORE: E500, Version: 2.0, (0x80210020)
   CPU:1200MHz, CCB:400MHz, DDR:200MHz,
   L1:D-cache 32 kB enabled
  I-cache 32 kB enabled
 
  Last reset from s/w reset
  2 SIP-400 controllers (5 GigabitEthernet)(5 POS).
  1 Virtual Ethernet interface
  9 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
  5 Packet over SONET interfaces
  3964K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
  507024K bytes of Internal ATA PCMCIA card (Sector size 512 bytes).
  Configuration register is 0x2102
 
  #sh platform hardware pfc mode
  PFC operating mode : PFC3C
 
  No i am not using AS path access-list, its just a straight forward
  configuration with route-maps having prefix-lists in it.
 
  Regards,
  Raheel
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Phil Mayers 
 p.may...@imperial.ac.ukwrote:
 
  On 17/06/10 00:08, Raheel Muhammad wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
 
  Might be a basic question but i couldnt find anything, i 
 have cisco 7606
  i
  just had a new peering with our upstream provider, but 
 router rebooted
  when
  routes reached 300k, router is not running anything else 
 as well. Any
  idea?
 
 
  That's pretty vague.
 
  Did the router log anything before rebooting? I assume you 
 have syslog
  setup? Did you have anything attached to the serial 
 console, and if so did
  it output anything?
 
  What does sh ver say with regards the last reload reason? e.g.
 
  ac-core#sh ver
  snip
 
  System returned to ROM by  power cycle at 07:01:04 BST Tue 
 Jun 8 2010 (SP
  by power on)
  System restarted at 07:12:11 BST Tue Jun 8 2010
  System image file is ...
  Last reload reason: Reason unspecified
 
  Are there any crashinfo files? Try:
 
  dir bootflash:
  dir sup-bootflash:
 
  You say routes reached 300k - are you running XL PFC  
 DFCs? What does:
 
  sh platform hardware pfc mode
 
  ...say?
 
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Hampus Linden
Looks like you're using a RSP720-3C, which has that TCAM limitation. You need 
RSP720-3CXL do take more routes.


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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Raheel Muhammad
Sent: 17 June 2010 12:18
To: Phil Mayers
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

Hi,

Got the issue, but what would be the work around for this?  Mqaximum i am
allowed is 223K.


12:44:10.257: %MLSCEF-SP-4-FIB_EXCEPTION_THRESHOLD: Hardware CEF entry usage
is at 95% capacity for MPLS protocol.
12:44:09.650: %MLSCEF-SP-STDBY-4-FIB_EXCEPTION_THRESHOLD: Hardware CEF entry
usage is at 95% capacity for MPLS protocol.
12:44:13.182: %CFIB-SP-STDBY-3-CFIB_EXCEPTION: FIB TCAM exception for IPv4
unicast. Packets through some routes will be dropped.
Use mls cef maximum-routes to modify the FIB TCAM partition or/and
consider a hardware upgred.
Examine your network and collect the necessary information from this setup.
The only way to recover from this state is by reload the  router.
12:44:12.913: %CFIB-SP-3-CFIB_EXCEPTION: FIB TCAM exception for IPv4
unicast. Packets through some routes will be dropped.
Use mls cef maximum-routes to modify the FIB TCAM partition or/and
consider a hardware upgred.
Examine your network and collect the necessary information from this setup.
The only way to recover from this state is by reload the  router.



Regards,
Raheel


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Raheel Muhammad
raheel.muham...@gmail.comwrote:


 Hi,

 Cisco CISCO7606-S (M8500) processor (revision 1.0) with 851968K/65536K
 bytes of memory.
 Processor board ID FOX1310G2VB
  BASEBOARD: RSP720
  CPU: MPC8548_E, Version: 2.0, (0x80390020)
  CORE: E500, Version: 2.0, (0x80210020)
  CPU:1200MHz, CCB:400MHz, DDR:200MHz,
  L1:D-cache 32 kB enabled
 I-cache 32 kB enabled

 Last reset from s/w reset
 2 SIP-400 controllers (5 GigabitEthernet)(5 POS).
 1 Virtual Ethernet interface
 9 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
 5 Packet over SONET interfaces
 3964K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 507024K bytes of Internal ATA PCMCIA card (Sector size 512 bytes).
 Configuration register is 0x2102

 #sh platform hardware pfc mode
 PFC operating mode : PFC3C

 No i am not using AS path access-list, its just a straight forward
 configuration with route-maps having prefix-lists in it.

 Regards,
 Raheel




 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.ukwrote:

 On 17/06/10 00:08, Raheel Muhammad wrote:

 Hi guys,

 Might be a basic question but i couldnt find anything, i have cisco 7606
 i
 just had a new peering with our upstream provider, but router rebooted
 when
 routes reached 300k, router is not running anything else as well. Any
 idea?


 That's pretty vague.

 Did the router log anything before rebooting? I assume you have syslog
 setup? Did you have anything attached to the serial console, and if so did
 it output anything?

 What does sh ver say with regards the last reload reason? e.g.

 ac-core#sh ver
 snip

 System returned to ROM by  power cycle at 07:01:04 BST Tue Jun 8 2010 (SP
 by power on)
 System restarted at 07:12:11 BST Tue Jun 8 2010
 System image file is ...
 Last reload reason: Reason unspecified

 Are there any crashinfo files? Try:

 dir bootflash:
 dir sup-bootflash:

 You say routes reached 300k - are you running XL PFC  DFCs? What does:

 sh platform hardware pfc mode

 ...say?

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Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

2010-06-17 Thread Marcus.Gerdon
Raheel,

only the forwarding table built will be copied into the FIB TCAM (plus some 
overhead possibly, but that can be ignored as far as I can see on our routers).


regards,

Marcus


Von: Raheel Muhammad [mailto:raheel.muham...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 13:56
An: Marcus.Gerdon
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Betreff: Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!


Dear All,
 
Thanks for the replies but it looks like i have to upgrade the RSP but 
can anyone tell me that the limitation is for the routes which will be 
installed in forwarding table for. e.g. if i am receiving 3 routing tables so 
it will be 3xlimit or limit will only be for what is installed in the 
forwarding table.
 
Regards


 
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Marcus.Gerdon 
marcus.ger...@versatel.de wrote:


Raheel,

I'm not sure about RSP720 models available ad hoc, but based on 
Sup720 the basic hardware only allows for 256k routes at most. Only having a 
-XL version allows for 1m of (v4) routes.

Your output only shows 'PFC-3C mode' - which tells the current 
operational limit is 256k, but doesn't tell about maximum capacity possible in 
hardware.

If you do have a XL deployed (look for PFC-3CXL in 'sh mod') 
just follow the hint given in the error message: use 'mls cef maximum-routes' 
to increase the number of forwarding entries allowed in hardware.

Should you have got a non-XL and RSP720 being equal to Sup720 
in regards to capacity (that's the 256k max) you'll need to swap RSP to handle 
a full BGP table.

Also pay attention to the combination of RSP and DFC's 
equipped. A XL-RSP will operate in non-XL-mode as soon as even a single 
non-XL-DFC is installed in the chassis.


regards,

Marcus


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag von
 Raheel Muhammad
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 13:18
 An: Phil Mayers

 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

 Betreff: Re: [c-nsp] BGP routing table !!

 Hi,


 Got the issue, but what would be the work around for this?
 Mqaximum i am
 allowed is 223K.



 12:44:10.257: %MLSCEF-SP-4-FIB_EXCEPTION_THRESHOLD: Hardware
 CEF entry usage
 is at 95% capacity for MPLS protocol.
 12:44:09.650: %MLSCEF-SP-STDBY-4-FIB_EXCEPTION_THRESHOLD:
 Hardware CEF entry
 usage is at 95% capacity for MPLS protocol.
 12:44:13.182: %CFIB-SP-STDBY-3-CFIB_EXCEPTION: FIB TCAM
 exception for IPv4
 unicast. Packets through some routes will be dropped.
 Use mls cef maximum-routes to modify the FIB TCAM partition 
or/and
 consider a hardware upgred.
 Examine your network and collect the necessary information
 from this setup.
 The only way to recover from this state is by reload the  
router.
 12:44:12.913: %CFIB-SP-3-CFIB_EXCEPTION: FIB TCAM exception 
for IPv4
 unicast. Packets through some routes will be dropped.
 Use mls cef maximum-routes to modify the FIB TCAM partition 
or/and
 consider a hardware upgred.
 Examine your network and collect the necessary information
 from this setup.
 The only way to recover from this state is by reload the  
router.



 Regards,
 Raheel


 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Raheel Muhammad
 raheel.muham...@gmail.comwrote:

 
  Hi,
 
  Cisco CISCO7606-S (M8500) processor (revision 1.0) with
 851968K/65536K
  bytes of memory.
  Processor board ID FOX1310G2VB
   BASEBOARD: RSP720
   CPU: MPC8548_E, Version: 2.0, (0x80390020)
   CORE: E500, Version: 2.0, (0x80210020)
   CPU:1200MHz, CCB:400MHz, DDR:200MHz,
   L1:D-cache 32 kB enabled
  I-cache 32 

Re: [c-nsp] Alert: Correction

2010-06-17 Thread Alexander Clouter
Jun Kemail junkemail...@gmail.com wrote:

 An employee of The University of Toledo, Jason Mishka, transmitted a message
 to this listserv on January 15, 2010, giving his personal opinion about
 Bluecat Networks products.  It has since been published on other listservs
 and re-transmitted without authorization to other sites/forums.  His
 assessments and statements are his opinion and NOT that of The University of
 Toledo. 

This is almost edging on a kind of Streisand effect[1]...

 The University of Toledo does not agree with or support his opinion.  
 Businesses deciding whether to utilize Bluecat Networks products 
 should not rely upon his opinion message in any way.  We would 
 appreciate it if all remarks were disregarded and if possible, removed 
 from the listserv.

 Thank you. VP IT/CIO.
 
From a Gborg account, especially one called 'Jun kEmail'?  Assuming this 
is a legit email, if you plan on making official statements regarding an 
employee's obviously personal opinion[2], it is probably more effective 
in my view to consider using your organisation's email address?

As for the Bluecat Networks' sales droids who, in my opinion, obviously 
pressed for this statement to be released, congratulations It is this 
attempt to censor opinion rather than to actually improve your customers 
opinion of you that has guaranteed I will not even look at your product 
line.

Cheers

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
[2] *I'd* recommend against a bluecat appliance based on our 
experience.

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[c-nsp] BGP Scanner running amok

2010-06-17 Thread Gordon Bezzina
Hi,

Following yesterday's issue with BGP full feed, I have updated the IOS from
SRD3 to SRE1 on the
Cisco 7606 (RSP720-3CXL). The BGP continuous resets have been resolved but
now I have a mad
BGP Scanner.

It is running constantly consuming over 60% of my CPU.

c7600#sh proc cpu | e 0.00
CPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/2%; one minute: 99%; five minutes: 99%
 PID Runtime(ms) Invoked  uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process 
   8  332596   17885  18596  1.59%  0.99%  0.95%   0 Check heaps

  13   48648  232252209  0.15%  0.13%  0.15%   0 ARP Input

 221   11188   39246285  0.07%  0.04%  0.05%   0 IP ARP
Adjacency 
 223  342396 3957629 86  1.03%  1.04%  1.02%   0 IP Input

 259   30712 3542903  8  0.07%  0.09%  0.07%   0 Ethernet
Msec Ti 
 340   166323284   5064  0.15%  0.05%  0.05%   0 QoS stats
proces 
 468 4327380 4895130884 14.07% 13.71% 13.43%   0 BGP Router

 491   12072  134101 90  0.07%  0.03%  0.02%   0 Port
manager per 
 497 1531916 4876536314  4.55%  4.39%  4.32%   0 BGP I/O

 511   10380   61690168  0.07%  0.05%  0.01%   0 IP SNMP

 551   14300  804916 17  0.07%  0.06%  0.02%   0 SNMP ENGINE

 555   12756 1933774  6  0.15%  0.20%  0.21%   0 HSRP Common

 556   17816  836123 21  0.07%  0.05%  0.05%   0 HSRP IPv4

 557 5214300 4875375   1069 16.23% 15.80% 15.46%   0 BGP Task

 55818923640 4869667   3886 58.31% 57.58% 56.41%   0 BGP Scanner


c7600#

also it is sending lots and lot of updates to a number of my peers.
Basically
I have a particular peer who was sent 6,000,000 updates in 6 hours!

Did anyhow experiencing something similar?

Tks/rgds
Gordon



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[c-nsp] Weird ACL behaviour

2010-06-17 Thread Marco Matarazzo
Hi all,

I'm facing a strange behaviour on an ACL just wanted to know if someone has
encountered a similar issue? Here're the facts:

I'm using a Cisco 6509 on SXI2, I've setup Netflow to collect and send
traffic to a collector. The collector is on my management network. The
relevant configs:

[...snip...]

mls netflow interface
mls flow ip interface-full
mls nde sender

[... some interfaces has ip flow ingress configured...]

interface FastEthernet3/48
 description Management Network
 ip address 10.16.x.y 255.255.255.0
 ip access-group Management out
 no ip proxy-arp

ip flow-export source FastEthernet3/48
ip flow-export version 9 origin-as
ip flow-export destination 10.16.x.z 9995

ip access-list extended Management
 deny   ip any any

with this configuration in place the collector only receives flows generated
by CPU switch traffic. All the traffic generated by the mls nde sender
command does get blocked by the ACL. As soon as I remove the ACL the traffic
flows fine. I was under the assumption that traffic generated by the router
was not affected by the ACLs, and in fact all the rest of the traffic is
fine... Maybe I'm catching a bug here, or is that written somewhere that
packets created by the mls gets blocked by ACLs?

Cheers,
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Re: [c-nsp] Alert: Correction

2010-06-17 Thread Jared Mauch
Interesting.

If it were an official statement, I'm sure it would come from a university of 
toledo account vs gmail :)

Just so everyone knows it's not really possible to un-ring the bell of this 
type of thing posted to the list.  Lots of other people (markmail etc) seem to 
archive the list as well.

If anyone has questions about the policies that I use to run the lists, please 
send me a note in private.

- Jared

(Who once commented on a poorly performing vendor who was never able to fix 
their problem for us and we returned it, but they still griped about my 
truthful post).

On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Jun Kemail wrote:

 An employee of The University of Toledo, Jason Mishka, transmitted a message
 to this listserv on January 15, 2010, giving his personal opinion about
 Bluecat Networks products.  It has since been published on other listservs
 and re-transmitted without authorization to other sites/forums.  His
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 Toledo.  The University of Toledo does not agree with or support his
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 should not rely upon his opinion message in any way.  We would appreciate it
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Re: [c-nsp] Continous BGP session resets on SRD3

2010-06-17 Thread Tima Maryin
It happens when you peer with GSR with _particular_(my personal assumption) 
version and your IOS do not support 4byte AS.



The problem was caused by malicious update from one AS which disappeared from 
internet table yesterday after 4 or 5 hours.



Gordon Bezzina wrote:

Hi,

The other end is a GSR, but I do not have control on.
Anyhow performed emergency upgrade my 7600 from SRD3 to SRE1, did the trick.

It now works without any problems.

Thanks to all.

Best Regards
Gordon

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Re: [c-nsp] Alert: Correction

2010-06-17 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 09:28 -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
 Interesting.
 
 If it were an official statement, I'm sure it would come from a university of 
 toledo account vs gmail :)

Are you saying that Junk Email^H^H^H. I mean Jun Kemail is NOT a
University of Toledo employee!? :)


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Re: [c-nsp] Continous BGP session resets on SRD3

2010-06-17 Thread Rodney Dunn

We are working to get some clarification on this.

In the interim...

Can anyone prove they saw this when either:

a) The upstream speaker did not have the AS Path limit configured to 
something lower (say less than 200)?


b) The upstream speaker was running with code *newer* than one of these:

15.1(01.07.01)PIA14 15.1(01.05.01)PIA13 15.1(01)XB 15.0(01.01)SID 
15.0(01)M 12.4(24.06.06)PIL12 12.4(24.06.05)PIB12 12.4(24.06)PI11l 
12.2(33.01.21)MCP05 12.2(33)ZI 12.2(33)XNE 12.2(33)SXI02 
12.2(32.08.17)REC186 12.2(32.08.15)YCA273.10 12.2(32.08.11)XJC273.11 
12.2(32.08.11)SX277 12.2(32.08.06)YCA246.10 12.2(32.08.01)YCA273.15 
12.0(32)SY10


From what Shimol and I appear to have gleaned so far it's an issue 
between a 4byte AS (new) speaker and and non 4 byte (old) speaker *and* 
the 4byte AS (new) upstream speaker is on a version of code older than 
one of the ones above.


Can folks confirm/deny if their deployment where they saw this either 
did or did not match those conditions above?


Read it carefully as it can be tricky.

Thanks,
Rodney




On 6/17/10 12:19 AM, Gordon Bezzina wrote:

Hi,

The other end is a GSR, but I do not have control on.
Anyhow performed emergency upgrade my 7600 from SRD3 to SRE1, did the trick.

It now works without any problems.

Thanks to all.

Best Regards
Gordon

-Original Message-
From: John van Oppen [mailto:jvanop...@spectrumnet.us]
Sent: L-Erbgħa, 16 ta' Ġunju 2010 17:43
To: Kostas Fotiadis; Gordon Bezzina
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Continous BGP session resets on SRD3

We saw this issue about 8 hours ago too...   It appeared to affect GSRs running 
anything older than gsr-k4p-mz.120-32.SY9.bin as well as 7200s running 
non-current versions of IOS.  Our 6500s were all fine but they are all 
running at least s72033-adventerprisek9_wan-mz.122-33.SXI1.bin.

This sure looked like it was tickling CSCeh13489 but we already limit the 
maximum AS-path length to well-under 255 and that did not seem to protect us.   
We ended up doing an emergency upgrade of the GSRs involved.


John van Oppen
Spectrum Networks
Direct: 206-973-8302
Main: 206-973-8300


From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] on 
behalf of Kostas Fotiadis [kostas.fotia...@oteglobe.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:41 AM
To: Gordon Bezzina
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Continous BGP session resets on SRD3

Hi Gordon,

Just hang-up the phone with TAC.
We also had the same issue this morning.
One session was iBGP and the other eBGP.
Engineer said, undocumented bug, needs to do more research and get back to be.
Don't know what he did and fix it. I guess you need to open a case...

Good luck,
Kostas


On 16/6/2010 12:37 μμ, Gordon Bezzina wrote:

Hi,

Since this morning I am experiencing a weird problem on one of my full
feeds link.
My router is a 7606 with dual RSP720-3CXL-GE and running SRD3.

I have a multihop bgp peer to get the full bgp feed from my customer.

Suddenly this morning the connection started flapping. With the
following error message:

Jun 16 07:40:03 CEST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor W.X.Y.Z vpn vrf XX Up
Jun 16 07:42:36 CEST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor W.X.Y.Z vpn vrf XX
Down BGP Notification sent Jun 16 07:42:36 CEST: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION:
sent to neighbor W.X.Y.Z 3/4 (invalid flags for attribute) 3 bytes
00
15w6d: BGP: 217.15.96.9 Bad attributes Jun 16 07:42:36 CEST:
%BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted message received from
W.X.Y.Z:
        012B 0200 0001 1040 0101 02C0
119A
0226
 3D77  22E0  04F9  3065 0003 0065 0003 0065  C288

22E4
 22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4

22E4
 22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4

22E4
 22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4

22E4
 22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4  22E4 4002 4E02
263D
7722
E004 F930 655B A05B A0C2 8822 E422 E422 E422 E422 E422 E422 E422 E422
E422
E422

Jun 16 07:42:42 CEST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor W.X.Y.Z IPv4
Unicast vpn vrf XX topology base removed from session  BGP
Notification sent

The sequence is as follows:
It basically goes up, starts getting the feed, then at around 290K
routes it logs this error and resets the session. It will Then start
over again.

Note that this does not seem to be the route dampening issue - I do
not even have dampening enabled on my router.

Also mls cef is set at 350K for IPv4 and free RAM is over 1G

Any ideas?

Thanks/Regards
Gordon

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Re: [c-nsp] Weird ACL behaviour

2010-06-17 Thread Benjamin Lovell
The code path for MLS netflow versus software netflow is not the same.  
For MLS netflow the export records are created by the DFC/PFC so it's  
not surprising that they act differently than locally generated  
traffic.


Just as an example that shows the code path is different. Export to  
VRF destination is supported for software netflow but not for MLS  
netflow.



-Ben


On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Marco Matarazzo wrote:


Hi all,

I'm facing a strange behaviour on an ACL just wanted to know if  
someone has

encountered a similar issue? Here're the facts:

I'm using a Cisco 6509 on SXI2, I've setup Netflow to collect and send
traffic to a collector. The collector is on my management network. The
relevant configs:

[...snip...]

mls netflow interface
mls flow ip interface-full
mls nde sender

[... some interfaces has ip flow ingress configured...]

interface FastEthernet3/48
description Management Network
ip address 10.16.x.y 255.255.255.0
ip access-group Management out
no ip proxy-arp

ip flow-export source FastEthernet3/48
ip flow-export version 9 origin-as
ip flow-export destination 10.16.x.z 9995

ip access-list extended Management
deny   ip any any

with this configuration in place the collector only receives flows  
generated

by CPU switch traffic. All the traffic generated by the mls nde sender
command does get blocked by the ACL. As soon as I remove the ACL the  
traffic
flows fine. I was under the assumption that traffic generated by the  
router
was not affected by the ACLs, and in fact all the rest of the  
traffic is
fine... Maybe I'm catching a bug here, or is that written somewhere  
that

packets created by the mls gets blocked by ACLs?

Cheers,
]\/[arco


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Re: [c-nsp] Alert: Correction

2010-06-17 Thread Jared Mauch

On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 09:28 -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
 Interesting.
 
 If it were an official statement, I'm sure it would come from a university 
 of toledo account vs gmail :)
 
 Are you saying that Junk Email^H^H^H. I mean Jun Kemail is NOT a
 University of Toledo employee!? :)

Fear the astroturf.

Either way it sounds like the guys at Bluecat Networks likely have at minimum 
some issues corresponding with their customer regarding their deployment, and 
at worst.. some hardware that is due for recycling.

- Jared
(Who has no clue what Bluecat Networks even offers).
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Re: [c-nsp] Weird ACL behaviour

2010-06-17 Thread Marco Matarazzo
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Benjamin Lovell belov...@cisco.com wrote:

 The code path for MLS netflow versus software netflow is not the same. For
 MLS netflow the export records are created by the DFC/PFC so it's not
 surprising that they act differently than locally generated traffic.


I'm not surprised that the flows are created by different 'entities' inside
the 6500. Another evidence is the fact that mls  record are created with a
source port different than the software created records.
I just found it unexpected that this 'entity' was considered external by the
point of view of the ACL. Once you know it, I can punch an hole in the ACL,
but wanted to be sure this is expected and not actually a bug of some sort
(in the software or in the documentation! ;)

Thanks!
]\/[arco
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Re: [c-nsp] Specification of RA that responds to RS (applied RA suppress I/F)

2010-06-17 Thread Dale W. Carder
Thus spake daigo nakayama (nky...@gmail.com) on Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 07:57:51AM 
+0900:
 Hi,
 
 Cat65 interface(GigabitEthernet) sent out RA, when RS was received in
 the interface that applied ipv6 nd ra suppress. Is this behavior
 within specification ?

If you're looking to stop the responses to solicitation as well, put in
both of these:

 ipv6 nd ra suppress
 ipv6 nd prefix default no-advertise

This has turned out to be a great way to introduce to server hosting
subnets, as you can then go machines/applications one by one to staticly
configure v6 without worring about unintended machines lighting up their
v6 stacks.

Dale
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Re: [c-nsp] Weird ACL behaviour

2010-06-17 Thread Rodney Dunn
If it is an inconsistency in implementation between the software and 
hardware generated records it should be clearly articulated as a gotcha 
in the configuration guide. Ben is checking on both parts for us.


Rodney



On 6/17/10 11:15 AM, Marco Matarazzo wrote:

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Benjamin Lovellbelov...@cisco.com  wrote:


The code path for MLS netflow versus software netflow is not the same. For
MLS netflow the export records are created by the DFC/PFC so it's not
surprising that they act differently than locally generated traffic.



I'm not surprised that the flows are created by different 'entities' inside
the 6500. Another evidence is the fact that mls  record are created with a
source port different than the software created records.
I just found it unexpected that this 'entity' was considered external by the
point of view of the ACL. Once you know it, I can punch an hole in the ACL,
but wanted to be sure this is expected and not actually a bug of some sort
(in the software or in the documentation! ;)

Thanks!
]\/[arco

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Re: [c-nsp] Weird ACL behaviour

2010-06-17 Thread Benjamin Lovell

Marco,

This looks like
CSCtc54878NDE direct export packets are checked by egress ACL

When the packets are exported by the SP(MLS netflow) the flag for  
hardware to ignore ACL checks is not set. Fixed in SXI4.


-Ben


On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Rodney Dunn wrote:

If it is an inconsistency in implementation between the software and  
hardware generated records it should be clearly articulated as a  
gotcha in the configuration guide. Ben is checking on both parts for  
us.


Rodney



On 6/17/10 11:15 AM, Marco Matarazzo wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Benjamin  
Lovellbelov...@cisco.com  wrote:


The code path for MLS netflow versus software netflow is not the  
same. For
MLS netflow the export records are created by the DFC/PFC so it's  
not
surprising that they act differently than locally generated  
traffic.




I'm not surprised that the flows are created by different  
'entities' inside
the 6500. Another evidence is the fact that mls  record are created  
with a

source port different than the software created records.
I just found it unexpected that this 'entity' was considered  
external by the
point of view of the ACL. Once you know it, I can punch an hole in  
the ACL,
but wanted to be sure this is expected and not actually a bug of  
some sort

(in the software or in the documentation! ;)

Thanks!
]\/[arco

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Re: [c-nsp] Weird ACL behaviour

2010-06-17 Thread Marco Matarazzo
Fantastic Ben, looks like you catched it! Will punch an hole in the ACL,
waiting for the next software upgrade cycle then!

Cheers,
]\/[arco

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Benjamin Lovell belov...@cisco.com wrote:

 Marco,

 This looks like
 CSCtc54878NDE direct export packets are checked by egress ACL

 When the packets are exported by the SP(MLS netflow) the flag for hardware
 to ignore ACL checks is not set. Fixed in SXI4.

 -Ben



 On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Rodney Dunn wrote:

  If it is an inconsistency in implementation between the software and
 hardware generated records it should be clearly articulated as a gotcha in
 the configuration guide. Ben is checking on both parts for us.

 Rodney



 On 6/17/10 11:15 AM, Marco Matarazzo wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Benjamin Lovellbelov...@cisco.com
  wrote:

  The code path for MLS netflow versus software netflow is not the same.
 For
 MLS netflow the export records are created by the DFC/PFC so it's not
 surprising that they act differently than locally generated traffic.


 I'm not surprised that the flows are created by different 'entities'
 inside
 the 6500. Another evidence is the fact that mls  record are created with
 a
 source port different than the software created records.
 I just found it unexpected that this 'entity' was considered external by
 the
 point of view of the ACL. Once you know it, I can punch an hole in the
 ACL,
 but wanted to be sure this is expected and not actually a bug of some
 sort
 (in the software or in the documentation! ;)

 Thanks!
 ]\/[arco

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Re: [c-nsp] Recieving Dying Gasp notifications

2010-06-17 Thread Atif Sid
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps9637/index.html

ME3400 series support the feature.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Kaegler, Mike kaegl...@tessco.com wrote:

 I have a few remote sites which can be prone to power failures. For
 various reasons, implementing UPSs with management cards is not suitable
 and/or desirable.

 The remote equipment all supports Dying Gasp, however, but I cannot seem
 to find a way to make my 7200s, 3800s, or 2600s to receive the DG
 notifications. Google seems to indicate that only the CRS-1 will do it.

 This seems a pretty simple  low-cost feature... is there truly no Cisco
 support for receiving DG on sub-million-dollar routers?
 -porkchop

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[c-nsp] HSRP forwarding question

2010-06-17 Thread Chris Boyd
Having a discussion with a colleague about forwarding on HSRP.  I seem to 
remember seeing datagrams that were addressed to the virtual IP address, but 
were delivered to the standby router getting forwarded from the standby to the 
active for routing.

It's been a while since I looked at HSRP in the lab, and I'm about to hop on a 
plane, so I appeal to the net.wisdom :-)

Thanks,

-Chris


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Re: [c-nsp] HSRP forwarding question

2010-06-17 Thread Benjamin Lovell
This can happen if your spanning-tree root is the HSRP standby and the  
L2 access switch uplink to the active is in blocking. The packet will  
be bridged through the standby to then be routed by the active. To  
prevent this it makes sense to have the STP root for a vlan be the  
same as the active router.


Same idea applies to the PIM DR for mcast.

-Ben

On Jun 17, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Chris Boyd wrote:

Having a discussion with a colleague about forwarding on HSRP.  I  
seem to remember seeing datagrams that were addressed to the virtual  
IP address, but were delivered to the standby router getting  
forwarded from the standby to the active for routing.


It's been a while since I looked at HSRP in the lab, and I'm about  
to hop on a plane, so I appeal to the net.wisdom :-)


Thanks,

-Chris


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Re: [c-nsp] HSRP forwarding question

2010-06-17 Thread Shimol Shah

So what is the question ?

HSRP speakers choose a ACTIVE and a STANDBY. ACTIVE is the *only* one 
who does the forwarding.


They pick a HSRP VIP which is the DG of the users. ACTIVE one repliesto 
ARP/own's MAC for it. Users forward to ACTIVE. STANDBY is not used for 
traffic from users-network until ACTIVE is down.


GLBP has a more ACTIVE/ACTIVE implementation by choosing a AVG and 
multiple AVFs


Shimol


On 6/17/10 2:24 PM, Chris Boyd wrote:

Having a discussion with a colleague about forwarding on HSRP.  I seem to 
remember seeing datagrams that were addressed to the virtual IP address, but 
were delivered to the standby router getting forwarded from the standby to the 
active for routing.

It's been a while since I looked at HSRP in the lab, and I'm about to hop on a 
plane, so I appeal to the net.wisdom :-)

Thanks,

-Chris


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Re: [c-nsp] OT - Cisco QoS - FIFO

2010-06-17 Thread Mack McBride
Not really off topic.
Very relevant to cisco performance.
Generally control traffic winds up in a different queue if QoS is used.
By default on the 6500 with a 6708 line card for example:
Queue 3 handles COS 6  7 traffic.
Queue 3 gets 15% of the buffers

Cisco also implements a feature called SPD Headroom and SPD extended Headroom.
BGP traffic winds up in headroom and IGP traffic in extended headroom.
This is probably more like what your friend is referring to.

https://www9.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps167/products_tech_note09186a008012fb87.shtml


Mack McBride
Network Architect


-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Christopher O'Shea
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:21 PM
To: Cisco certification; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] OT - Cisco QoS - FIFO

Had a question about QoS with a co-worker asking does Cisco devices
give priority to Network Control (CS6) traffic traffic?
He show/told me that in Juniper that always have 5% for Network
control traffic even on FIFO

Chris O'Shea
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Re: [c-nsp] Alert: Correction

2010-06-17 Thread Mack McBride
Completely off topic but this seems to be IP address management.
Bluecat's product page doesn't mention NAT and overlapping 1918 space support.
Both are key features in today's internat, I mean internet.

Mack McBride
Network Architect

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From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jared Mauch
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:36 AM
To: Matt Zagrabelny
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Alert: Correction


On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 09:28 -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
 Interesting.
 
 If it were an official statement, I'm sure it would come from a university 
 of toledo account vs gmail :)
 
 Are you saying that Junk Email^H^H^H. I mean Jun Kemail is NOT a
 University of Toledo employee!? :)

Fear the astroturf.

Either way it sounds like the guys at Bluecat Networks likely have at minimum 
some issues corresponding with their customer regarding their deployment, and 
at worst.. some hardware that is due for recycling.

- Jared
(Who has no clue what Bluecat Networks even offers).
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Re: [c-nsp] HSRP forwarding question

2010-06-17 Thread Arie Vayner (avayner)
The exception for this is on Nexus vPC and 6500 VSS. Both nodes would be
forwarding in these cases.

Arie

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(shimshah)
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 22:38
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] HSRP forwarding question

So what is the question ?

HSRP speakers choose a ACTIVE and a STANDBY. ACTIVE is the *only* one 
who does the forwarding.

They pick a HSRP VIP which is the DG of the users. ACTIVE one repliesto 
ARP/own's MAC for it. Users forward to ACTIVE. STANDBY is not used for 
traffic from users-network until ACTIVE is down.

GLBP has a more ACTIVE/ACTIVE implementation by choosing a AVG and 
multiple AVFs

Shimol


On 6/17/10 2:24 PM, Chris Boyd wrote:
 Having a discussion with a colleague about forwarding on HSRP.  I seem
to remember seeing datagrams that were addressed to the virtual IP
address, but were delivered to the standby router getting forwarded from
the standby to the active for routing.

 It's been a while since I looked at HSRP in the lab, and I'm about to
hop on a plane, so I appeal to the net.wisdom :-)

 Thanks,

 -Chris


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Re: [c-nsp] HSRP forwarding question

2010-06-17 Thread Lincoln Dale
On 18/06/2010, at 4:24 AM, Chris Boyd wrote:

 Having a discussion with a colleague about forwarding on HSRP.  I seem to 
 remember seeing datagrams that were addressed to the virtual IP address, but 
 were delivered to the standby router getting forwarded from the standby to 
 the active for routing.

the virtual mac for the FHRP exists on the active only.
i.e. if you look at the mac table on the switch you'll see that the mac exists 
on the FHRP active.

an exception to the above is where you have cisco switches that support virtual 
Port Channel (vPC) where the vPC pair still runs a FHRP like HSRP but the 
'standby' actually forwards too because vPC is about running your 
infrastructure active/active.


cheers,

lincoln.


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Re: [c-nsp] Continous BGP session resets on SRD3

2010-06-17 Thread Tima Maryin

Rodney Dunn wrote:

We are working to get some clarification on this.

In the interim...

Can anyone prove they saw this when either:

a) The upstream speaker did not have the AS Path limit configured to 
something lower (say less than 200)?

b) The upstream speaker was running with code *newer* than one of these:

15.1(01.07.01)PIA14 15.1(01.05.01)PIA13 15.1(01)XB 15.0(01.01)SID 
15.0(01)M 12.4(24.06.06)PIL12 12.4(24.06.05)PIB12 12.4(24.06)PI11l 
12.2(33.01.21)MCP05 12.2(33)ZI 12.2(33)XNE 12.2(33)SXI02 
12.2(32.08.17)REC186 12.2(32.08.15)YCA273.10 12.2(32.08.11)XJC273.11 
12.2(32.08.11)SX277 12.2(32.08.06)YCA246.10 12.2(32.08.01)YCA273.15 
12.0(32)SY10



We observed problem only on 2 GSRs as upstream.
Both affected gsrs has  bgp maxas-limit 100 and runs 12.0(33)s4
We have several GSRs, which runs different versions - S5, S6, even couple with 
S2 and (32)SY6






 From what Shimol and I appear to have gleaned so far it's an issue 
between a 4byte AS (new) speaker and and non 4 byte (old) speaker *and* 
the 4byte AS (new) upstream speaker is on a version of code older than 
one of the ones above.


Can folks confirm/deny if their deployment where they saw this either 
did or did not match those conditions above?


Read it carefully as it can be tricky.

Thanks,
Rodney


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