Re: [c-nsp] unicast storm

2012-04-19 Thread Phil Mayers

On 04/19/2012 05:00 AM, ujjwal maghaiya wrote:


Could anyone tell to me the possible cases of UNICAST STORM.



One common cause is a host that receives a lot of traffic, but doesn't 
send it - e.g. a syslog server.


If the ARP timeout is  FDB timeout, when the FDB timeout expires, the 
packets will be flooded as unknown-unicast.


Either:

 1. Cause the host to emit traffic
 2. Lower the ARP time to  FDB timeout

Similar things can occur in HSRP setups on the standby route/switch.

If you can be a bit more specific about the symptoms you're seeing, 
people can probably make better suggestions.

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[c-nsp] IP Source Guard and Smartlog on 3750s

2012-04-19 Thread Martin Clifton
Hi,

I'm looking at implementing IPSG on our 3750s.   This is a test which stops a 
host using a port unless its mac-address/host-address match the ip dhcp 
snooping table.

This works fine.   IOS is 15.0(1)SE2.   The specific hardware is Catalyst 
3750G-24PS.

My problem is that I want to be alerted when there is a violation.   You can't 
configure traps for IPSG, and there is no syslog entry (from which I could use 
EEM to generate a trap).   The only method offered by the IOS is to use 
'smartlog' which sends specially-formatted netflow-v9 messages to a specified 
collector.   It is not possible to manually configure 'flexible netflow' on the 
3750 – but I don't know if that would help anyway – except that I would be able 
to see the records on the switch without sending them to a collector.

I've tried a few different collectors – the only one I've found that 
understands the records is 'Scrutinizer'.   It sees the record as an IPSG 
violation but provides nothing else except the vlan number.   (What I would 
like is the interface and the offending ip/mac).

Looking at the raw netflow data via nfcapd/nfdump confirm that the vlan is the 
only useful field that is sent.

I can't find any Cisco documentation on how to interpret the netflow records 
generated by SmartLog – what the format is; what collectors understand them 
etc.   But if the record only contains the vlan then they are not much use 
anyway.

Any thoughts ?

Regards, Martin



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Re: [c-nsp] unicast storm

2012-04-19 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-04-19 08:26 +0100), Phil Mayers wrote:

  1. Cause the host to emit traffic
  2. Lower the ARP time to  FDB timeout

ACK. 4h is brutally long as IOS default in IOS, some other options:

FreeBSD:
 sysctl net.link.ether.inet.max_age
net.link.ether.inet.max_age: 1200
Linux:
% sysctl net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.gc_stale_time
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.gc_stale_time = 60
OSX: (not sure if it actually uses/honors this)
% sysctl net.link.ether.inet.max_age
net.link.ether.inet.max_age: 1200

Windows appears to have had 2min but has since decreased to random sub
minute. So the syslog server would need to be not linux and not windows to
cause problems.
JunOS seems to have 1200s ish, but randomized bit (after clear arp, I'm
seeing 1100s through 1500s)
I would encourage BSD core team to change the default to below 5min. If
both windows and linux can live at 1min or less, I think it's fairly proven
that it works in real-life. Hopefully fix would propagate to JunOS and OSX
too.


One less common and tricky storm can occur if you have L2 metroring to
which you've attached two PE routers. When some CPE dies in the metro ring,
ARP will of course remain there for 4h. So PE will happily send frame to
metro, where it'll get flooded to all ports.

Now if the CPE which went down was redundantly terminated to both PE, the
backup PE will receive it, and as it sees best path via BGP (instead of
local) it'll send it over core back to the primary PE, causing loop.

Obviously the DMAC isn't for the backup PE, so this situation will only
arise if you are running your interface in promisc mode. Not all routers
have VLAN specific promisc mode, so configuring one L2VPN (xconnect), might
cause all vLANs to receive all DMACs.

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Re: [c-nsp] router does not see IGMP joins

2012-04-19 Thread Victor Sudakov
Hitesh Vinzoda wrote:
 
  It seems that the problem disappeared after the host sending IGMP
  joins was moved from a hub (10BASE-T HD) to a switch (100BASE-T FD).
 
  I am still confused about the possible cause of the problem.
 
 
 Is PIM enabled on that interface ?

I posted the output of sh ip igmp interface fastEthernet 0/0 here
https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/2012-March/084031.html
as you probably remember. It says Multicast routing is enabled on
interface.

If PIM were not enabled on the interface, how could moving the host
from a hub to a switch (without any changes in the router
configuration) have solved the problem?


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sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru
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[c-nsp] IPsec from Linux to Cisco dynamic-map?

2012-04-19 Thread Peter Olsson
Hello!

I'm trying to configure an IPsec star network with a
couple of Linux boxes connecting to a central IOS router
using dynamic-map. The Linux boxes all get their public
IP addresses from DHCP, so the IOS router must use only
dynamic peering for this IPsec network.

The IOS router I'm testing with is an old 2621 running
c2600-ik9o3s3-mz.123-23.
The Linux boxes run Busybox v1.0.5, with IPSec-tools 0.7.

I have this configuration in the router:
crypto keyring spokes 
  pre-shared-key address 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 key cisco123
crypto isakmp policy 10
 encr aes
 hash md5
 authentication pre-share
 group 5  
 lifetime 28800
crypto isakmp profile L2L
   keyring spokes
   match identity address 0.0.0.0 
crypto ipsec transform-set myset esp-aes esp-md5-hmac 
crypto dynamic-map dynmap 10
 set transform-set myset 
 set pfs group5
 set isakmp-profile L2L
crypto map mymap 10 ipsec-isakmp dynamic dynmap 
interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
interface FastEthernet0/1
 crypto map mymap

Phase 1 seems ok, but then I get this in the Cisco debug:
IPSEC(initialize_sas): invalid proxy IDs

I have tried changing several IPsec parameters (encr, hash,
group, transform-set, pfs, lifetime) both in Cisco and Linux
but I always end up with the invalid proxy IDs error, and
the information I find about this error is that it could be
a mismatch between peering acl:s. But since the router uses
dynamic peering I don't have a peering acl in the router.
I have tried both 10.1.1.0/24 and 10.1.1.1/24 as Remote Network
in the Linux.

In my google attempts I found some sample configurations
between Cisco and Linux, but unfortunately none using
dynamic-map.

Anyone knows what could be wrong, or how to better debug it?

Thanks!

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Re: [c-nsp] L3VPN works, but not default route

2012-04-19 Thread Aaron
As a continuation of this thread/task, I now have the default route from my
dual core ce-pe hubs, thanks to you all :) ...and now shown below is some
output from one of my other pe's further out into the edge of my
network...it seems that it is rcv'ing the dual default routes from the dual
ce/pe core hubs, but now I'm wanting to allow BOTH default routes into the
rib to allow for the typical cef src/dst hashing for load balancing between
both pe next hops 10.101.0.1 and 10.101.0.2.  Let me know what you think
please on how to accomplish this.

Aaron

test-me3600#sh bgp vpnv4 u rd 10.101.0.1:1 0.0.0.0
BGP routing table entry for 10.101.0.1:1:0.0.0.0/0, version 9620
Paths: (1 available, best #1, no table)
  Not advertised to any peer
  Local
10.101.0.1 (metric 4) from 10.101.0.1 (10.101.0.1)
  Origin incomplete, metric 1, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
  Extended Community: RT:100:1 OSPF RT:0.0.0.0:5:1
OSPF ROUTER ID:1.1.191.17:0
  mpls labels in/out nolabel/16238

test-me3600#sh bgp vpnv4 u rd 10.101.0.2:1 0.0.0.0
BGP routing table entry for 10.101.0.2:1:0.0.0.0/0, version 11522
Paths: (1 available, best #1, no table)
  Not advertised to any peer
  Local
10.101.0.2 (metric 3) from 10.101.0.2 (10.101.0.2)
  Origin incomplete, metric 1, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
  Extended Community: RT:100:1 OSPF RT:0.0.0.0:5:1
OSPF ROUTER ID:1.1.191.21:0
  mpls labels in/out nolabel/16220


test-me3600#sh ip ro vrf one 0.0.0.0

Routing Table: one
Routing entry for 0.0.0.0/0, supernet
  Known via bgp 64512, distance 200, metric 1, candidate default path,
type internal
  Last update from 10.101.0.2 16:33:17 ago
  Routing Descriptor Blocks:
  * 10.101.0.2 (default), from 10.101.0.2, 16:33:17 ago
  Route metric is 1, traffic share count is 1
  AS Hops 0
  MPLS label: 16220
  MPLS Flags: MPLS Required


test-me3600#sh run | sec router bgp
router bgp 64512
 bgp router-id 10.101.12.253
 bgp log-neighbor-changes
 no bgp default ipv4-unicast
 neighbor 10.101.0.1 remote-as 64512
 neighbor 10.101.0.1 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 10.101.0.2 remote-as 64512
 neighbor 10.101.0.2 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 10.101.0.4 remote-as 64512
 neighbor 10.101.0.4 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 10.101.8.2 remote-as 64512
 neighbor 10.101.8.2 update-source Loopback0
 !
 address-family ipv4
 exit-address-family
 !
 address-family vpnv4
  neighbor 10.101.0.1 activate
  neighbor 10.101.0.1 send-community extended
  neighbor 10.101.0.2 activate
  neighbor 10.101.0.2 send-community extended
  neighbor 10.101.0.4 activate
  neighbor 10.101.0.4 send-community extended
  neighbor 10.101.8.2 activate
  neighbor 10.101.8.2 send-community extended
 exit-address-family
 !
 address-family ipv4 vrf one
  redistribute connected
 exit-address-family
test-me3600#



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Re: [c-nsp] L3VPN works, but not default route

2012-04-19 Thread Tim Durack
You will need a unique RD per PE, to allow multiple VPN routes to be
discriminated. You also need to enable maximum-paths for the bgp vrf
context:

PE1:

vrf definition vrf
 rd rd1
 route-target both RT
end

PE2:

vrf definition vrf
 rd rd2
 route-target both RT
end

router bgp AS
 address-family ipv4 vrf vrf
  maximum-paths eibgp 2 import 2
 exit-address-family
 address-family ipv6 vrf vrf
  maximum-paths eibgp 2 import 2
 exit-address-family
end

Tim:

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote:
 As a continuation of this thread/task, I now have the default route from my
 dual core ce-pe hubs, thanks to you all :) ...and now shown below is some
 output from one of my other pe's further out into the edge of my
 network...it seems that it is rcv'ing the dual default routes from the dual
 ce/pe core hubs, but now I'm wanting to allow BOTH default routes into the
 rib to allow for the typical cef src/dst hashing for load balancing between
 both pe next hops 10.101.0.1 and 10.101.0.2.  Let me know what you think
 please on how to accomplish this.

 Aaron

 test-me3600#sh bgp vpnv4 u rd 10.101.0.1:1 0.0.0.0
 BGP routing table entry for 10.101.0.1:1:0.0.0.0/0, version 9620
 Paths: (1 available, best #1, no table)
  Not advertised to any peer
  Local
    10.101.0.1 (metric 4) from 10.101.0.1 (10.101.0.1)
      Origin incomplete, metric 1, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
      Extended Community: RT:100:1 OSPF RT:0.0.0.0:5:1
        OSPF ROUTER ID:1.1.191.17:0
      mpls labels in/out nolabel/16238

 test-me3600#sh bgp vpnv4 u rd 10.101.0.2:1 0.0.0.0
 BGP routing table entry for 10.101.0.2:1:0.0.0.0/0, version 11522
 Paths: (1 available, best #1, no table)
  Not advertised to any peer
  Local
    10.101.0.2 (metric 3) from 10.101.0.2 (10.101.0.2)
      Origin incomplete, metric 1, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
      Extended Community: RT:100:1 OSPF RT:0.0.0.0:5:1
        OSPF ROUTER ID:1.1.191.21:0
      mpls labels in/out nolabel/16220


 test-me3600#sh ip ro vrf one 0.0.0.0

 Routing Table: one
 Routing entry for 0.0.0.0/0, supernet
  Known via bgp 64512, distance 200, metric 1, candidate default path,
 type internal
  Last update from 10.101.0.2 16:33:17 ago
  Routing Descriptor Blocks:
  * 10.101.0.2 (default), from 10.101.0.2, 16:33:17 ago
      Route metric is 1, traffic share count is 1
      AS Hops 0
      MPLS label: 16220
      MPLS Flags: MPLS Required


 test-me3600#sh run | sec router bgp
 router bgp 64512
  bgp router-id 10.101.12.253
  bgp log-neighbor-changes
  no bgp default ipv4-unicast
  neighbor 10.101.0.1 remote-as 64512
  neighbor 10.101.0.1 update-source Loopback0
  neighbor 10.101.0.2 remote-as 64512
  neighbor 10.101.0.2 update-source Loopback0
  neighbor 10.101.0.4 remote-as 64512
  neighbor 10.101.0.4 update-source Loopback0
  neighbor 10.101.8.2 remote-as 64512
  neighbor 10.101.8.2 update-source Loopback0
  !
  address-family ipv4
  exit-address-family
  !
  address-family vpnv4
  neighbor 10.101.0.1 activate
  neighbor 10.101.0.1 send-community extended
  neighbor 10.101.0.2 activate
  neighbor 10.101.0.2 send-community extended
  neighbor 10.101.0.4 activate
  neighbor 10.101.0.4 send-community extended
  neighbor 10.101.8.2 activate
  neighbor 10.101.8.2 send-community extended
  exit-address-family
  !
  address-family ipv4 vrf one
  redistribute connected
  exit-address-family
 test-me3600#



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Re: [c-nsp] L3VPN works, but not default route

2012-04-19 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)

 
 As a continuation of this thread/task, I now have the default route
from my
 dual core ce-pe hubs, thanks to you all :) ...and now shown below is
some
 output from one of my other pe's further out into the edge of my
 network...it seems that it is rcv'ing the dual default routes from the
dual
 ce/pe core hubs, but now I'm wanting to allow BOTH default routes into
the
 rib to allow for the typical cef src/dst hashing for load balancing
between
 both pe next hops 10.101.0.1 and 10.101.0.2.  Let me know what you
think
 please on how to accomplish this.

assuming you can see both defaults in your show ip bgp vpnv4 vrf one
0.0.0.0 and both , you theoretically only need to enable iBGP
multipath:

router bgp 64512
 address-family ipv4 vrf one
  maximum-paths ibgp 2

however as your metric to the two PEs is different (at least in your
lab), you need to use maximum-paths eibgp 2, as eiBGP-load-sharing
will ignore the IGP metric to the egress PE and will install both paths
in your RIB..

oli

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[c-nsp] Protecting MLX/XMR MP against attacks with IP Receive ACLs / extended ACL behaviour

2012-04-19 Thread Rolf Hanßen
Hello,

this week we had an attack directly against one of our XMR (UDP packets to
a transfer network IP).
I was looking for an CoPP-equivalant and found the IP Receive ACLs feature.

In sample case of I block all UDP and allow everthing else I would use
that config here according to the manual:

access-list 101 remark BLOCK_UDP
access-list 101 deny udp any any

access-list 102 remark ALLOW_ANYTHING_ELSE
access-list 102 permit ip any any

ip receive access-list 101 sequence 5
ip receive access-list 102 sequence 10

Manual says that default policy is deny ip any any (applied after last
rule).
I am wondering what exactly is matched by ip because other protocols are
not mentioned.
Is ip an equivalent for ipv4 or more some kind of any in an extended
access list ?
Does the above config work or do I need a standard access list like
access-list 50 permit any at the end ?

Does anybody maybe already have a known to work-config for 0815 usage
(BGP, OSPF, VRRP) ?

kind regards
Rolf

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Re: [c-nsp] Protecting MLX/XMR MP against attacks with IP Receive ACLs / extended ACL behaviour

2012-04-19 Thread Rolf Hanßen
Sorry, wrong list, should go to foundry-nsp ;)

 Hello,

 this week we had an attack directly against one of our XMR (UDP packets to
 a transfer network IP).
 I was looking for an CoPP-equivalant and found the IP Receive ACLs
 feature.

 In sample case of I block all UDP and allow everthing else I would use
 that config here according to the manual:

 access-list 101 remark BLOCK_UDP
 access-list 101 deny udp any any

 access-list 102 remark ALLOW_ANYTHING_ELSE
 access-list 102 permit ip any any

 ip receive access-list 101 sequence 5
 ip receive access-list 102 sequence 10

 Manual says that default policy is deny ip any any (applied after last
 rule).
 I am wondering what exactly is matched by ip because other protocols are
 not mentioned.
 Is ip an equivalent for ipv4 or more some kind of any in an extended
 access list ?
 Does the above config work or do I need a standard access list like
 access-list 50 permit any at the end ?

 Does anybody maybe already have a known to work-config for 0815 usage
 (BGP, OSPF, VRRP) ?

 kind regards
 Rolf

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Re: [c-nsp] unicast storm

2012-04-19 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:00:41PM -0700, ujjwal maghaiya wrote:
 Could anyone tell to me the possible cases of UNICAST STORM.  
   

Improperly configured vSphere hosts with vMotions going on... Solaris
boxes with multiple interfaces on the same subnet/switch... improperly
configured clusters (Microsoft).

Just a few we have encountered.

Ray
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[c-nsp] IP-FORWARD-MIB from RFC 2096 on ASA etc.

2012-04-19 Thread Aled Morris
From what I've been able to determine Cisco has no plans to expose the
routing table via SNMP from the ASA platform.

Does anyone in the community have a bug or feature request open with TAC
for this?

Maybe a bit of customer demand would help persuade them.

Aled
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Re: [c-nsp] L3VPN works, but not default route

2012-04-19 Thread Aaron
Thanks so much, y'all are great.

I do already have the unique RD's on all pe's.

I do not have the max paths...i tested that yesterday and it didn't seem to
work, I think it's because I only used the maximum-paths 2 without those
other iebgp things looks good now.

maximum-paths ibgp 2 - didn't work
maximum-paths ibgp unequal-cost 2 - worked


(this is a different pe, but similar in its use, in other words it's not one
of those core dual pe's i mentioned)

me3600(config)#router bgp 65000
me3600(config-router)#address-family ipv4 vrf one
me3600(config-router-af)#maximum-paths ibgp unequal-cost 2
me3600(config-router-af)#do sh ip ro vrf one 0.0.0.0

Routing Table: one
Routing entry for 0.0.0.0/0, supernet
  Known via bgp 65000, distance 200, metric 1, candidate default path,
type internal
  Last update from 10.101.0.1 00:00:01 ago
  Routing Descriptor Blocks:
  * 10.101.0.2 (default), from 10.101.0.2, 00:00:01 ago
  Route metric is 1, traffic share count is 1
  AS Hops 0
  MPLS label: 16220
  MPLS Flags: MPLS Required
10.101.0.1 (default), from 10.101.0.1, 00:00:01 ago
  Route metric is 1, traffic share count is 1
  AS Hops 0
  MPLS label: 16238
  MPLS Flags: MPLS Required
me3600(config-router-af)#




-Original Message-
From: Tim Durack [mailto:tdur...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:58 AM
To: Aaron
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] L3VPN works, but not default route

You will need a unique RD per PE, to allow multiple VPN routes to be
discriminated. You also need to enable maximum-paths for the bgp vrf
context:

PE1:

vrf definition vrf
 rd rd1
 route-target both RT
end

PE2:

vrf definition vrf
 rd rd2
 route-target both RT
end

router bgp AS
 address-family ipv4 vrf vrf
  maximum-paths eibgp 2 import 2
 exit-address-family
 address-family ipv6 vrf vrf
  maximum-paths eibgp 2 import 2
 exit-address-family
end

Tim:

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote:
 As a continuation of this thread/task, I now have the default route 
 from my dual core ce-pe hubs, thanks to you all :) ...and now shown 
 below is some output from one of my other pe's further out into the 
 edge of my network...it seems that it is rcv'ing the dual default 
 routes from the dual ce/pe core hubs, but now I'm wanting to allow 
 BOTH default routes into the rib to allow for the typical cef src/dst 
 hashing for load balancing between both pe next hops 10.101.0.1 and 
 10.101.0.2.  Let me know what you think please on how to accomplish this.

 Aaron

 test-me3600#sh bgp vpnv4 u rd 10.101.0.1:1 0.0.0.0 BGP routing table 
 entry for 10.101.0.1:1:0.0.0.0/0, version 9620
 Paths: (1 available, best #1, no table)
  Not advertised to any peer
  Local
    10.101.0.1 (metric 4) from 10.101.0.1 (10.101.0.1)
      Origin incomplete, metric 1, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
      Extended Community: RT:100:1 OSPF RT:0.0.0.0:5:1
        OSPF ROUTER ID:1.1.191.17:0
      mpls labels in/out nolabel/16238

 test-me3600#sh bgp vpnv4 u rd 10.101.0.2:1 0.0.0.0 BGP routing table 
 entry for 10.101.0.2:1:0.0.0.0/0, version 11522
 Paths: (1 available, best #1, no table)
  Not advertised to any peer
  Local
    10.101.0.2 (metric 3) from 10.101.0.2 (10.101.0.2)
      Origin incomplete, metric 1, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
      Extended Community: RT:100:1 OSPF RT:0.0.0.0:5:1
        OSPF ROUTER ID:1.1.191.21:0
      mpls labels in/out nolabel/16220


 test-me3600#sh ip ro vrf one 0.0.0.0

 Routing Table: one
 Routing entry for 0.0.0.0/0, supernet
  Known via bgp 64512, distance 200, metric 1, candidate default 
 path, type internal
  Last update from 10.101.0.2 16:33:17 ago
  Routing Descriptor Blocks:
  * 10.101.0.2 (default), from 10.101.0.2, 16:33:17 ago
      Route metric is 1, traffic share count is 1
      AS Hops 0
      MPLS label: 16220
      MPLS Flags: MPLS Required


 test-me3600#sh run | sec router bgp
 router bgp 64512
  bgp router-id 10.101.12.253
  bgp log-neighbor-changes
  no bgp default ipv4-unicast
  neighbor 10.101.0.1 remote-as 64512
  neighbor 10.101.0.1 update-source Loopback0
  neighbor 10.101.0.2 remote-as 64512
  neighbor 10.101.0.2 update-source Loopback0
  neighbor 10.101.0.4 remote-as 64512
  neighbor 10.101.0.4 update-source Loopback0
  neighbor 10.101.8.2 remote-as 64512
  neighbor 10.101.8.2 update-source Loopback0
  !
  address-family ipv4
  exit-address-family
  !
  address-family vpnv4
  neighbor 10.101.0.1 activate
  neighbor 10.101.0.1 send-community extended
  neighbor 10.101.0.2 activate
  neighbor 10.101.0.2 send-community extended
  neighbor 10.101.0.4 activate
  neighbor 10.101.0.4 send-community extended
  neighbor 10.101.8.2 activate
  neighbor 10.101.8.2 send-community extended
  exit-address-family
  !
  address-family ipv4 vrf one
  redistribute connected
  exit-address-family
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[c-nsp] Understanding Out/Input bytes in Interface Counters on 2811

2012-04-19 Thread Peter Subnovic
Dear List,

i am having an Cisco 2811 with IOS (C2800NM-ADVENTERPRISEK9-M), Version
12.4(24)T

Our Provider told us that we had a traffic volume of 300GB last month, but
the interface counters do not reflect these values:

I am curios, if the reported volume should be reflected in the out/input
bytes

When i am looking on the counters of the interface which is connected to
the Provider Router, the following values are shown:

1089368953 packets input, 744025984 bytes

970733443 packets output, 3196131116 bytes

I searched the Open/Resolved Caveats document, but couldnt find anything
related.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/release/notes/124TCAVS.pdf

So my question is:

Shouldn't they be at least somewhat near the reported volume? or am i
missing something (maybe very basic) here? or are the counters just broken?

Unfortunately, i do not have any other possibility to verify the volume (i
know this is bad and will be changed).

Any pointers to documents or something else is highly appreciated.

Thanks for your time.

Kind regards,
Peter
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Re: [c-nsp] Understanding Out/Input bytes in Interface Counters on 2811

2012-04-19 Thread Chuck Church
Could be a bunch of reasons.  Were the counters cleared at the time when the
provider's time of measure started?  Did the router reboot or were the
counters cleared since?  These counters are either a 32 or 64 bit counter.
They do occasionally wrap and start over at 0, pretty frequent on 32 bit
counters.  

Chuck


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Subject: [c-nsp] Understanding Out/Input bytes in Interface Counters on 2811

Dear List,

i am having an Cisco 2811 with IOS (C2800NM-ADVENTERPRISEK9-M), Version
12.4(24)T

Our Provider told us that we had a traffic volume of 300GB last month, but
the interface counters do not reflect these values:

I am curios, if the reported volume should be reflected in the out/input
bytes

When i am looking on the counters of the interface which is connected to the
Provider Router, the following values are shown:

1089368953 packets input, 744025984 bytes

970733443 packets output, 3196131116 bytes

I searched the Open/Resolved Caveats document, but couldnt find anything
related.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/release/notes/124TCAVS.pdf

So my question is:

Shouldn't they be at least somewhat near the reported volume? or am i
missing something (maybe very basic) here? or are the counters just broken?

Unfortunately, i do not have any other possibility to verify the volume (i
know this is bad and will be changed).

Any pointers to documents or something else is highly appreciated.

Thanks for your time.

Kind regards,
Peter
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Re: [c-nsp] L3VPN works, but not default route

2012-04-19 Thread Aaron
I didn't have to use import, and they still came into vrf. ?  any idea why?

maximum-paths ibgp 2 - didn't work
maximum-paths ibgp unequal-cost 2 - worked

me3600(config)#router bgp 65000
me3600(config-router)#address-family ipv4 vrf one
me3600(config-router-af)#maximum-paths ibgp unequal-cost 2
me3600(config-router-af)#do sh ip ro vrf one 0.0.0.0

Routing Table: one
Routing entry for 0.0.0.0/0, supernet
  Known via bgp 65000, distance 200, metric 1, candidate default path,
type internal
  Last update from 10.101.0.1 00:00:01 ago
  Routing Descriptor Blocks:
  * 10.101.0.2 (default), from 10.101.0.2, 00:00:01 ago
  Route metric is 1, traffic share count is 1
  AS Hops 0
  MPLS label: 16220
  MPLS Flags: MPLS Required
10.101.0.1 (default), from 10.101.0.1, 00:00:01 ago
  Route metric is 1, traffic share count is 1
  AS Hops 0
  MPLS label: 16238
  MPLS Flags: MPLS Required

Aaron


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Re: [c-nsp] Understanding Out/Input bytes in Interface Counters on 2811

2012-04-19 Thread Bruce Pinsky
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Chuck Church wrote:
 Could be a bunch of reasons.  Were the counters cleared at the time when the
 provider's time of measure started?  Did the router reboot or were the
 counters cleared since?  These counters are either a 32 or 64 bit counter.
 They do occasionally wrap and start over at 0, pretty frequent on 32 bit
 counters.  
 

If the interface counters were cleared, might consider looking at the SNMP
counters as they do not get cleared except on reboot.  They can wrap,
however, just like the interface counters.

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Re: [c-nsp] Understanding Out/Input bytes in Interface Counters on 2811

2012-04-19 Thread Peter Subnovic
Thanks Chuck, Bruce and James for your replys,

I did clear the counters 6 weeks ago (near the beginning of march) while i
was troubleshooting another issue .

The router was not rebooted for 15 weeks.

Thanks for the hint that the counters are (most probably) 32-bit counters,
although the 3 Billion bytes reported as output should fit in the counter.

Guess i'll have to live with it and need to implement a better approach to
track this stuff.

Cheers,
Peter


On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Chuck Church chuckchu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could be a bunch of reasons.  Were the counters cleared at the time when
 the
 provider's time of measure started?  Did the router reboot or were the
 counters cleared since?  These counters are either a 32 or 64 bit counter.
 They do occasionally wrap and start over at 0, pretty frequent on 32 bit
 counters.

 Chuck


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 Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:43 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] Understanding Out/Input bytes in Interface Counters on
 2811

 Dear List,

 i am having an Cisco 2811 with IOS (C2800NM-ADVENTERPRISEK9-M), Version
 12.4(24)T

 Our Provider told us that we had a traffic volume of 300GB last month, but
 the interface counters do not reflect these values:

 I am curios, if the reported volume should be reflected in the out/input
 bytes

 When i am looking on the counters of the interface which is connected to
 the
 Provider Router, the following values are shown:

 1089368953 packets input, 744025984 bytes

 970733443 packets output, 3196131116 bytes

 I searched the Open/Resolved Caveats document, but couldnt find anything
 related.

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/release/notes/124TCAVS.pdf

 So my question is:

 Shouldn't they be at least somewhat near the reported volume? or am i
 missing something (maybe very basic) here? or are the counters just broken?

 Unfortunately, i do not have any other possibility to verify the volume (i
 know this is bad and will be changed).

 Any pointers to documents or something else is highly appreciated.

 Thanks for your time.

 Kind regards,
 Peter
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Re: [c-nsp] Understanding Out/Input bytes in Interface Counters on 2811

2012-04-19 Thread Keegan Holley
32bit counters would wrap at 4.29GB so it would never get to 300GB.  As far
as I know most newer devices have 64 bit counters, but I could be
mistaken.  The last update I could find on cisco.com was from 2007.  It
would be pretty stupid to have gigabit interfaces on a device with counters
that wrap at about 33Gb.The show int command should show the last time
the counters were cleared.  Even less likely is they are counting in bits
and not bytes.  I would want to see this kind of data come from a
monitoring platform of some sort.  If you don't have graphs I would ask for
data from the vendor's billing/polling servers.

2012/4/19 Peter Subnovic cnspmail...@googlemail.com

 Dear List,

 i am having an Cisco 2811 with IOS (C2800NM-ADVENTERPRISEK9-M), Version
 12.4(24)T

 Our Provider told us that we had a traffic volume of 300GB last month, but
 the interface counters do not reflect these values:

 I am curios, if the reported volume should be reflected in the out/input
 bytes

 When i am looking on the counters of the interface which is connected to
 the Provider Router, the following values are shown:

 1089368953 packets input, 744025984 bytes

 970733443 packets output, 3196131116 bytes

 I searched the Open/Resolved Caveats document, but couldnt find anything
 related.

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/release/notes/124TCAVS.pdf

 So my question is:

 Shouldn't they be at least somewhat near the reported volume? or am i
 missing something (maybe very basic) here? or are the counters just broken?

 Unfortunately, i do not have any other possibility to verify the volume (i
 know this is bad and will be changed).

 Any pointers to documents or something else is highly appreciated.

 Thanks for your time.

 Kind regards,
 Peter
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Re: [c-nsp] Understanding Out/Input bytes in Interface Counters on 2811

2012-04-19 Thread Bruce Pinsky
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Peter Subnovic wrote:
 Thanks Chuck, Bruce and James for your replys,
 
 I did clear the counters 6 weeks ago (near the beginning of march) while i
 was troubleshooting another issue .
 
 The router was not rebooted for 15 weeks.
 
 Thanks for the hint that the counters are (most probably) 32-bit counters,
 although the 3 Billion bytes reported as output should fit in the counter.
 
 Guess i'll have to live with it and need to implement a better approach to
 track this stuff.
 

I would recommend using Netflow and export to a Netflow collector.  We used
that to measure utilization for billing purposes at one company I worked at.

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Re: [c-nsp] Understanding Out/Input bytes in Interface Counters on 2811

2012-04-19 Thread Keegan Holley
2012/4/19 Peter Subnovic cnspmail...@googlemail.com

 Thanks Chuck, Bruce and James for your replys,

 I did clear the counters 6 weeks ago (near the beginning of march) while i
 was troubleshooting another issue .

 The router was not rebooted for 15 weeks.

 Thanks for the hint that the counters are (most probably) 32-bit counters,
 although the 3 Billion bytes reported as output should fit in the counter.


Was it 3GB or 300GB? 300GB would not fit in a 32 bit counter.
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Re: [c-nsp] L3VPN works, but not default route

2012-04-19 Thread Bruce Pinsky
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Aaron wrote:
 I didn't have to use import, and they still came into vrf. ?  any idea why?
 

With unique RD, each route advertised by each PE is considered a separate
prefix with a different nexthop.  So, bestpath is run for each of those
unique RD/Prefixes and the bestpath is then imported into the VRF.

maximum-paths only comes into play when you have more than one nexthop for
each unique RD/prefix (such as when you have redundant RRs).

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Re: [c-nsp] Understanding Out/Input bytes in Interface Counters on 2811

2012-04-19 Thread Peter Subnovic
Hi,

thanks again to all who replied, i appreciate it.

To answer your question:

The reported Volume from the ISP is 300GB but the interface counter for
output bytes are only showing 3 Billion bytes (3GB) and input bytes are
at around 750 MB in a timeframe of 6 weeks (just checked when the counters
were cleared for the last time).

If you need any additional info, just ask.

Thanks again.

Cheers,
Peter

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Keegan Holley keegan.hol...@sungard.comwrote:




 2012/4/19 Peter Subnovic cnspmail...@googlemail.com

 Thanks Chuck, Bruce and James for your replys,

 I did clear the counters 6 weeks ago (near the beginning of march) while i
 was troubleshooting another issue .

 The router was not rebooted for 15 weeks.

 Thanks for the hint that the counters are (most probably) 32-bit counters,
 although the 3 Billion bytes reported as output should fit in the counter.


 Was it 3GB or 300GB? 300GB would not fit in a 32 bit counter.


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Re: [c-nsp] New Cisco ME3400 IOS?

2012-04-19 Thread Pavel Skovajsa
The new 12.2(58)EX is out there, can somebody please share experience with
it?
Also would be great if someone can shed some light on what is actually
considered an 'Enhanced QoS buffer management' since from the release
notes
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/metro/me3400e/software/release/12.2_58_ex/release/notes/ol24334.html
it
seems like the queue size has magically gone up:

Option to configure the queue size threshold in percentage terms. You can
now specify different queue sizes in absolute (number of packets) or
percentage terms for different classes of traffic in the same queue. The
upper limit of the number of packets you can specify when configuring a
queue limit is increased from 544 to 4272.
/

Is there a DOC describing how these queue size thresholds actually work on
ME3400?

-pavel

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Aled Morris al...@qix.co.uk wrote:

 On 23 March 2012 07:59, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou ach...@forthnetgroup.gr
 wrote:

  Can you please provide more details about Enhanced QoS buffer
 management?
 
 
 Sometimes this is marketing speak for now works (more) like the
 documentation claims it always did i.e. fixed wiithout admitting that the
 code was broken before.

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[c-nsp] converting mp-ibgp full mesh to dual redundant route reflectors

2012-04-19 Thread Aaron
Is this normal/expected when converting from full mesh mp-ibgp to dual
redundant rr's ?

this is output from one of my pe's learning routes from my dual hub pe's (.1
and .2)   (.4 and .8.2 are just two other pe's)

sh bgp vpnv4 u al sum
...

10.101.0.1  465000254027001170700 1d16h
150
10.101.0.2  465000245426891170700 1d16h
179
10.101.0.4  465000266029291170700 1d20h
1
10.101.8.2  465000145114421170700 21:41:46
3

 

 now after config'ing dual RR at dual hub pe's (.1 and .2) I see the
following...

 

sh bgp vpnv4 u al sum
...

10.101.0.1  465000  40  18 611600 00:11:04
333
10.101.0.2  465000  35  13 611600 00:07:33
333

 

 

150 + 179 + 1 + 3 = 333

 

So is it normal to see all available routes *from both* of my rr's?

 

Also, is this the only thing needed on the rr side?  I did this on both hub
pe's (.1 and .2)  I just want to make sure that adding the cluster id
globally to bgp is the right thing to do.  ( pretty much only use my pe's
for vpnv4 mpls l3vpn ... currently not doing any ipv4 native between my
pe's)

 

router bgp 65000

bgp cluster-id 1

commit

 

(of course also I specified on the two hub pe's that all my neighbors are
route-reflector-client)

 

Aaron

 

 

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[c-nsp] mac flapping on 6509 between core and fwsm

2012-04-19 Thread ryanL
does anyone know what would cause this? po30 uplinks to a core router,
and po579 is the internal etherchannel assignment for the fwsm. the
fwsm is bridging. the 6509 is spanning-tree root for the vlan. vl1250
is the outside interface. the mac in question is core router,
configured as po30.1250. the core has numerous other subints
configured the same way (so, same mac), but only this vlan reports the
move, repeatedly.

%MAC_MOVE-SW1_SP-4-NOTIF: Host 0024.f716.5142 in vlan 1250 is flapping
between port Po579 and port Po30

6509 vss is running 12.2(33)SXI6
fwsm is 4.1(7)

i have multiple fwsm contexts configure the exact same way (diff'd),
and i don't see this issue.

appreciate any clues.

ryan
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[c-nsp] When will SFP+ 10GBase-T optics be available?

2012-04-19 Thread Eric Rosenberry
I have hosts and storage arrays arriving that are coming with 10GBase-T
ports onboard (and no SFP+ ports).  This makes it very hard to hook to my
SFP+ *only* switches.  ;-)

My research indicates that the lack of 10GBase-T SFP+ modules is likely due
to the power consumption of 10 gig over copper being beyond with the SFP+
form factor allows?

So does anyone on the list know if/when a solution to this need will be
arriving?

Thanks!

P.S.  Perhaps optics is the wrong word since naturally 10GBase-T is not
optical...  But you get the idea.  ;-)

-Eric

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Re: [c-nsp] mac flapping on 6509 between core and fwsm

2012-04-19 Thread Mario Ruiz
I,ve  seen events  when server switch ports are  not properly teamed.
  And physically connected to separate access layer on a switches.
Bridged  interfaces ...find where the mac address is located

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 6:10 PM, ryanL ryan.lan...@gmail.com wrote:
 does anyone know what would cause this? po30 uplinks to a core router,
 and po579 is the internal etherchannel assignment for the fwsm. the
 fwsm is bridging. the 6509 is spanning-tree root for the vlan. vl1250
 is the outside interface. the mac in question is core router,
 configured as po30.1250. the core has numerous other subints
 configured the same way (so, same mac), but only this vlan reports the
 move, repeatedly.

 %MAC_MOVE-SW1_SP-4-NOTIF: Host 0024.f716.5142 in vlan 1250 is flapping
 between port Po579 and port Po30

 6509 vss is running 12.2(33)SXI6
 fwsm is 4.1(7)

 i have multiple fwsm contexts configure the exact same way (diff'd),
 and i don't see this issue.

 appreciate any clues.

 ryan
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Re: [c-nsp] mac flapping on 6509 between core and fwsm

2012-04-19 Thread Randy
--- On Thu, 4/19/12, Mario Ruiz mruiz...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Mario Ruiz mruiz...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] mac flapping on 6509 between core and fwsm
 To: ryanL ryan.lan...@gmail.com
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 5:14 PM
 I,ve  seen events  when
 server switch ports are  not properly teamed.
   And physically connected to separate access layer on
 a switches.
 Bridged  interfaces ...find where the mac address is
 located
 
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 6:10 PM, ryanL ryan.lan...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  does anyone know what would cause this? po30 uplinks to
 a core router,
  and po579 is the internal etherchannel assignment for
 the fwsm. the
  fwsm is bridging. the 6509 is spanning-tree root for
 the vlan. vl1250
  is the outside interface. the mac in question is core
 router,
  configured as po30.1250. the core has numerous other
 subints
  configured the same way (so, same mac), but only this
 vlan reports the
  move, repeatedly.
 
  %MAC_MOVE-SW1_SP-4-NOTIF: Host 0024.f716.5142 in vlan
 1250 is flapping
  between port Po579 and port Po30
 
  6509 vss is running 12.2(33)SXI6
  fwsm is 4.1(7)
 
  i have multiple fwsm contexts configure the exact same
 way (diff'd),
  and i don't see this issue.
 
  appreciate any clues.
 
  ryan

Who is reporting the mac-flaps - the 6509 with fwsm OR fwsm itself?

it appears that you are seeing it on the 6509 that has the fwsm?

if that is the case, the an arp-reply from host at 0024.f716.5142 is being seen 
via po30 and po579.

Why do you have po30 on the same vlan as fwsm's outside int?

Can you post relevant portions of the config?
./Randy

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Re: [c-nsp] mac flapping on 6509 between core and fwsm

2012-04-19 Thread ryanL
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Randy randy_94...@yahoo.com wrote:
 --- On Thu, 4/19/12, Mario Ruiz mruiz...@gmail.com wrote:


 Who is reporting the mac-flaps - the 6509 with fwsm OR fwsm itself?

 it appears that you are seeing it on the 6509 that has the fwsm?

 if that is the case, the an arp-reply from host at 0024.f716.5142 is being 
 seen via po30 and po579.

 Why do you have po30 on the same vlan as fwsm's outside int?

 Can you post relevant portions of the config?
 ./Randy

the 6509 is basically our services layer. data center stuff. it has
.1q trunks to the cores, where the cores in-turn pick up a .1q tag for
the L3 subinterface. in this example, vl1250. vrrp is used between the
two cores via the 6509. the 6509 also has .1q trunks to our back-end
routers. in this example, vl1251. the back-end routers do hsrp. the
fwsm in the 6509 bridges vl1250 and vl1251 in order to do transparent
firewalling. pretty standard. vl1250 is outside, vl1251 is inside.

the 6509 is what is reporting the mac move, seeing it show up
correctly on the uplink port to the core, and then seeing it show up
incorrectly on the internal ec for the fwsm. the mac is the physical
address of the core subint.

i'm wondering if the fwsm is doing some sort of random gratuitous or
proxy arp. the fwsm, which essentially participates, sees the correct
mac as an arp entry.

fwsm1/context removed# sh arp
outside ip removed 0024.f716.5142

i seem to have stopped the mac move messages by doing the following
towards my cores (on the 6509).

mac-address-table static 0024.f716.3242 vlan 1250 interface Port-channel40
mac-address-table static 0024.f716.5142 vlan 1250 interface Port-channel30

not sure what, if anything, yet, that i'm breaking by doing this.

.rL
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Re: [c-nsp] mac flapping on 6509 between core and fwsm

2012-04-19 Thread Randy
--- On Thu, 4/19/12, ryanL ryan.lan...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: ryanL ryan.lan...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] mac flapping on 6509 between core and fwsm
 To: Randy randy_94...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Mario Ruiz mruiz...@gmail.com, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 6:58 PM
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:54 PM,
 Randy randy_94...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  --- On Thu, 4/19/12, Mario Ruiz mruiz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Who is reporting the mac-flaps - the 6509 with fwsm OR
 fwsm itself?
 
  it appears that you are seeing it on the 6509 that has
 the fwsm?
 
  if that is the case, the an arp-reply from host at
 0024.f716.5142 is being seen via po30 and po579.
 
  Why do you have po30 on the same vlan as fwsm's outside
 int?
 
  Can you post relevant portions of the config?
  ./Randy
 
 the 6509 is basically our services layer. data center stuff.
 it has
 .1q trunks to the cores, where the cores in-turn pick up a
 .1q tag for
 the L3 subinterface. in this example, vl1250. vrrp is used
 between the
 two cores via the 6509. the 6509 also has .1q trunks to our
 back-end
 routers. in this example, vl1251. the back-end routers do
 hsrp. the
 fwsm in the 6509 bridges vl1250 and vl1251 in order to do
 transparent
 firewalling. pretty standard. vl1250 is outside, vl1251 is
 inside.
 
 the 6509 is what is reporting the mac move, seeing it show
 up
 correctly on the uplink port to the core, and then seeing it
 show up
 incorrectly on the internal ec for the fwsm. the mac is the
 physical
 address of the core subint.
 
 i'm wondering if the fwsm is doing some sort of random
 gratuitous or
 proxy arp. the fwsm, which essentially participates, sees
 the correct
 mac as an arp entry.
 
 fwsm1/context removed# sh arp
     outside ip removed
 0024.f716.5142
 
 i seem to have stopped the mac move messages by doing the
 following
 towards my cores (on the 6509).
 
 mac-address-table static 0024.f716.3242 vlan 1250 interface
 Port-channel40
 mac-address-table static 0024.f716.5142 vlan 1250 interface
 Port-channel30
 
 not sure what, if anything, yet, that i'm breaking by doing
 this.
 
 .rL


Yes! it fixed you issue because of the static-L2-entries you put in place.
It has not fixed the underlying-cause!
What you were seeing is not related to proxy-arp OR Gratuitous-Arp(that is an 
un-solicited response per-se)

If you wish to get to the bottom of this, feel free to post off-line.
./Randy

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