Re: [c-nsp] IP SLA

2012-11-12 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2011-10-19 18:01 +0200), Andrew Miehs wrote:

 I have been looking at IP SLA and was wondering whether there are any 
 appliances around which emulate Ciscos IP SLA so that you can use it as a 
 responder, or even better, the transmitter end?

Have you found any? I'd be very interested in commercial solution also.
Preferably one which does hardware timestamping.
IP SLA is proprietary protocol, so technically if you want to do commercial
solution, you'd need to buy permission for it from Cisco. And I know many
people buying dedicated Cisco CPE for IP SLA responders, so it might be
that companies have tried to build IP SLA responders but Cisco has said no.

In the mean time, co-worker just released[0] alpha version of Cisco IP
SLA/Juniper RPM responder for Linux.
It supports IP SLA Control packets and few tests, IP SLA UDP Jitter
millisecond, IP SLA UDP Jitter microsecond, RPM ICMP Ping Timestamp and RPM
UDP Ping Timestamp, but it wouldn't be exactly complicated to add support
for further tests.

It has some novel features, which makes it 0-touch. So if you need
responder for L3 MPLS VPNs, you will never touch the responder. You just
add VLAN+VRF+IP to neighbouring PE box. The responder code is MAC, VLAN and
IP address agnostic and handles them statelessly.

Accuracy to SRX or ISR responder is 1-2 magnitudes better, in terms of
jitter, so you should see your tests 50% better as you can mostly exclude
any inaccuracies incurred by responder.

Only way to make it more convenient would be to add support for BGP VPN RR
peering, and look for some magic RT in routes, if found, advertise your
prefix and copy label to use for egress. Then provisioning of test would be
'route-target both ASN:magic' in VRF definition. 

[0] https://github.com/cmouse/ip-sla-responder
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[c-nsp] rate-limit rspan (6500/sup-720)

2012-11-12 Thread Robert Williams
Hi,

I often use rspan sessions to analyse traffic at remote locations but the 
capacity between the analyser and the source is less than the 'potential' 
traffic I could select for analysis. In these cases, I may be sourcing from a 
10GB port and bringing that traffic to a remote location over another 10GB 
trunk port.

However, there was other (real) traffic on that trunk port before I enabled the 
rspan session, so my additional traffic could now exceed the 10GB available in 
total. Causing drops in the non-rspan traffic as it tries to egress the port 
along with the mirrored rpsan traffic.

Thus my question is, how do you rate-limit traffic before it is placed onto the 
rspan vlan? Or at least reduce its priority such that it has no impact at all 
on all other traffic egressing that port.

The platform in question is the 6500 / Sup-720

Cheers!

Robert Williams
Backline / Operations Team
Custodian DataCentre
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Re: [c-nsp] rate-limit rspan (6500/sup-720)

2012-11-12 Thread Dobbins, Roland

On Nov 12, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Robert Williams wrote:

 Thus my question is, how do you rate-limit traffic before it is placed onto 
 the rspan vlan? Or at least reduce its priority such that it has no impact at 
 all on all other traffic egressing that port.

1.  You send it over your DCN/OOB network, not your production network.

2.  You selectively capture traffic via copy/capture VACLs.

3.  You consider moving away from SPAN/RSPAN to taps, keeping in mind #1 
and #2, given the performance impact of SPAN/RSPAN.

4.  You upgrade to Sup2Ts and DFC4 linecards, and use sampled NetFlow, 
instead.

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Re: [c-nsp] rate-limit rspan (6500/sup-720)

2012-11-12 Thread Phil Mayers

On 12/11/12 08:55, Robert Williams wrote:

Hi,

I often use rspan sessions to analyse traffic at remote locations but
the capacity between the analyser and the source is less than the
'potential' traffic I could select for analysis. In these cases, I
may be sourcing from a 10GB port and bringing that traffic to a
remote location over another 10GB trunk port.

However, there was other (real) traffic on that trunk port before I
enabled the rspan session, so my additional traffic could now exceed
the 10GB available in total. Causing drops in the non-rspan traffic
as it tries to egress the port along with the mirrored rpsan
traffic.

Thus my question is, how do you rate-limit traffic before it is
placed onto the rspan vlan? Or at least reduce its priority such that
it has no impact at all on all other traffic egressing that port.


I don't know about RSPAN, but ERSPAN lets you set the DSCP. This might 
help, but I don't know how the originating device behaves w.r.t. output 
congestion. Presumably it does the right thing...


As Roland has suggested, the best solution is don't do that i.e. don't 
move 10G of SPAN traffic over a 10G production link. Either VACL filter, 
use separate links or do something cleverer (local analyser box, one 
of those fancy sampling tap thingies, pipe SPAN traffic into a switch 
with filtering layer2 ACLs  learning disabled before piping it back to 
you, etc.).

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Re: [c-nsp] custom fiber cables

2012-11-12 Thread Matt Addison
We've had good luck with fi

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 10, 2012, at 8:55, harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a couple runs of 150 and 350 feet, I assume they need to be made
 custom?

 Mike

 On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Gerry Boudreaux ge...@tape.net wrote:

 We have had great service and fast turn-around from
 http://www.fiberall.com/

 Hope this helps.

 G

 On Nov 10, 2012, at 07:23 , harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone point me to a reputable custom fiber patch supplier,
 looking for an Internet based company with quick response times.


 thanks,

 Mike
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Re: [c-nsp] custom fiber cables

2012-11-12 Thread Matt Addison
Sorry about last, we've had good luck with fiber instrument sales,
decent turnaround time and we haven't had a bad jumper from them yet.

Doing it yourself with unicams is a decent option too, but like Jon
mentioned the kit is expensive, and so are the connectors. And the
cleaver which comes with the kit is kinda iffy at times which will
make you want to go out and get a real cleaver pretty quickly.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 10, 2012, at 8:55, harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a couple runs of 150 and 350 feet, I assume they need to be made
 custom?

 Mike

 On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Gerry Boudreaux ge...@tape.net wrote:

 We have had great service and fast turn-around from
 http://www.fiberall.com/

 Hope this helps.

 G

 On Nov 10, 2012, at 07:23 , harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone point me to a reputable custom fiber patch supplier,
 looking for an Internet based company with quick response times.


 thanks,

 Mike
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Re: [c-nsp] rate-limit rspan (6500/sup-720)

2012-11-12 Thread Robert Williams
Hi all,

Unfortunately the scenario doesn't permit for additional bandwidth / circuits 
between the locations as we are talking about very long (read: expensive) 
circuits. We may have to look at outputting to a 1G port, physically-looped to 
another 1G port which is then going off down the 10G. I'll look at the options 
for setting DSCP but I can't say I've seen it in there for RSPAN unfortunately.

I was hoping there was a way of policing the RSPAN vlan at the source, as a 
whole, but it's sounding like it isn't possible.

Thanks anyway!


Robert Williams
Backline / Operations Team
Custodian DataCentre
tel: +44 (0)1622 230382
email: rob...@custodiandc.com
http://www.custodiandc.com/disclaimer.txt

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Phil Mayers
Sent: 12 November 2012 12:41
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] rate-limit rspan (6500/sup-720)

On 12/11/12 08:55, Robert Williams wrote:
 Hi,

 I often use rspan sessions to analyse traffic at remote locations but
 the capacity between the analyser and the source is less than the
 'potential' traffic I could select for analysis. In these cases, I may
 be sourcing from a 10GB port and bringing that traffic to a remote
 location over another 10GB trunk port.

 However, there was other (real) traffic on that trunk port before I
 enabled the rspan session, so my additional traffic could now exceed
 the 10GB available in total. Causing drops in the non-rspan traffic as
 it tries to egress the port along with the mirrored rpsan traffic.

 Thus my question is, how do you rate-limit traffic before it is placed
 onto the rspan vlan? Or at least reduce its priority such that it has
 no impact at all on all other traffic egressing that port.

I don't know about RSPAN, but ERSPAN lets you set the DSCP. This might help, 
but I don't know how the originating device behaves w.r.t. output congestion. 
Presumably it does the right thing...

As Roland has suggested, the best solution is don't do that i.e. don't move 
10G of SPAN traffic over a 10G production link. Either VACL filter, use 
separate links or do something cleverer (local analyser box, one of those 
fancy sampling tap thingies, pipe SPAN traffic into a switch with filtering 
layer2 ACLs  learning disabled before piping it back to you, etc.).
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Re: [c-nsp] custom fiber cables

2012-11-12 Thread Erik Sundberg
http://www.connectionconceptsinc.com/

All these guys do is telco assembles and fiber jumps... Used them for years.

Email me for the contact name and number.



-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matt Addison
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:15 AM
To: harbor235
Cc: Gerry Boudreaux; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] custom fiber cables

Sorry about last, we've had good luck with fiber instrument sales, decent 
turnaround time and we haven't had a bad jumper from them yet.

Doing it yourself with unicams is a decent option too, but like Jon mentioned 
the kit is expensive, and so are the connectors. And the cleaver which comes 
with the kit is kinda iffy at times which will make you want to go out and get 
a real cleaver pretty quickly.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 10, 2012, at 8:55, harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a couple runs of 150 and 350 feet, I assume they need to be
 made custom?

 Mike

 On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Gerry Boudreaux ge...@tape.net wrote:

 We have had great service and fast turn-around from
 http://www.fiberall.com/

 Hope this helps.

 G

 On Nov 10, 2012, at 07:23 , harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone point me to a reputable custom fiber patch supplier,
 looking for an Internet based company with quick response times.


 thanks,

 Mike
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[c-nsp] Monitoring 3750x power supplies

2012-11-12 Thread Aaron Riemer
Hey guys,

 

We are having issues monitoring our 3750x power supplies via the cisco
envmon MIB that hopefully someone out there has experienced.

 

When one of the power supplies loses power the OID will change state to
6:notFunctioning but once power is reset the state does not change back to
normal. 

 

This is causing issues for our monitoring application.

 

See below for the OID:

 

Object ciscoEnvMonSupplyState OID 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.13.1.5.1.3 Type
CiscoEnvMonState 
1:normal
2:warning
3:critical
4:shutdown
5:notPresent
6:notFunctioning
Permission read-only Status current MIB 

Description The current state of the power supply being instrumented.

 

snmpwalk result:

 

SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9.9.13.1.5.1.3.1058 = INTEGER: 1

SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9.9.13.1.5.1.3.1086 = INTEGER: 6

 

switch#show env power

 

SW  PID Serial# Status   Sys Pwr  PoE Pwr  Watts

---  --  --  ---  ---  ---
-

1A  C3KX-PWR-1100WAC OK  Good Good 1100/0

1B  C3KX-PWR-1100WAC OK  Good Good 1100/0

 

Any ideas? I believe a reload of the switch will resolve but we can't do
this for every switch that loses power to one of the supplies.

 

Thanks,

 

Aaron.

 

 

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[c-nsp] OSPF redist customer routes

2012-11-12 Thread CiscoNSP_list CiscoNSP_list

Hi Guys,
We currently run OSPF across our POPs - redistributing connected + static 
subnets.
So, provision a customer tail, and all POPs know about the new subnetand 
also if we statically route an additional subnet to a customer, all other POP's 
are updated.
Our issue is if we need to run OSPF to the customer(eg if they have redundant 
connections), and they require an additional subnet(So they advertise the 
additional subnet back to us via OSPF), the only POP that is aware of the 
advertised additional subnet is the one that has the OSPF session to the 
customer - All our other POP's dont see this advertisement as it is within a 
different OSPF process to our Internal OSPF process - Solution is to 
redistribute ospf process(customer) in our Internal OSPF...but we also have 
to use route-map/acl to ensure they dont potentially blackhole us(by 
advertising something back to us that they shouldnt)Is there a better way 
to be doing this?  As having to redistribute customer ospf/controlling that 
redist with route-map/acl just doesnt seem like a good solution?(At the very 
least, it's terrible to manage)  

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

  
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Re: [c-nsp] OSPF redist customer routes

2012-11-12 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 11/12/12 8:48 PM, CiscoNSP_list CiscoNSP_list wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 We currently run OSPF across our POPs - redistributing connected + static 
 subnets.
 So, provision a customer tail, and all POPs know about the new subnetand 
 also if we statically route an additional subnet to a customer, all other 
 POP's are updated.
 Our issue is if we need to run OSPF to the customer(eg if they have redundant 
 connections), and they require an additional subnet(So they advertise the 
 additional subnet back to us via OSPF), the only POP that is aware of the 
 advertised additional subnet is the one that has the OSPF session to the 
 customer - All our other POP's dont see this advertisement as it is within a 
 different OSPF process to our Internal OSPF process - Solution is to 
 redistribute ospf process(customer) in our Internal OSPF...but we also have 
 to use route-map/acl to ensure they dont potentially blackhole us(by 
 advertising something back to us that they shouldnt)Is there a better 
 way to be doing this?  As having to redistribute customer ospf/controlling 
 that redist with route-map/acl just doesnt seem like a good solution?(At 
 the very least, it's terrible to manage)  

I would suggest migrating to iBGP for customer routes, redistributing
connected and static into iBGP much like you do now for OSPF.  You are
going to run in to scalability problems with OSPF for customer routes.
Keep OSPF for your infrastructure but not for customer routes.  You
really don't want your infrastructure routing process recalculating
every time a customer serial link flaps or a customer has a power blip.

Customers with redundant connections can use a private AS into iBGP or
tracked floating statics redistributed.

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Re: [c-nsp] OSPF redist customer routes

2012-11-12 Thread CiscoNSP_list CiscoNSP_list


 
 I would suggest migrating to iBGP for customer routes, redistributing
 connected and static into iBGP much like you do now for OSPF.  You are
 going to run in to scalability problems with OSPF for customer routes.
 Keep OSPF for your infrastructure but not for customer routes.  You
 really don't want your infrastructure routing process recalculating
 every time a customer serial link flaps or a customer has a power blip.



Thanks Jay - We already run iBGP(Full mesh under VPNv4) across our POPs for vrf 
solutionshow best to migrate our customer routes from ospf-iBGP? (And how 
to separate our infrastructure IPs(Keep in OSPF)) 


 
 Customers with redundant connections can use a private AS into iBGP or
 tracked floating statics redistributed.


A lot of our customers CE's dont support BGP (Or require a license 
upgrade)...so we are stuck(to a degree) with having to support OSPF?

Thanks for your suggestions

  
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