Re: [c-nsp] Question configure QoS on ES20 Card, Cisco 7609

2013-10-03 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Nam,

as Tony already said, deny clauses are not supported in QoS
classification ACLs on this linecard. So you need to change your qos
semantic. 

Assuming deny was supported, your current qos policy semantic looks like
if( destination is not in (1.52.x.x, etc.) ) then
  police to 1 mbps
else
  police to 2 mbps

if that is the case, you can change the config to

access-list foo permit ip any 1.53.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list foo permit ip any 1.52.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list foo permit ip any 1.54.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list foo permit ip any 1.55.0.0 0.0.255.255
!
class-map FOO
 match access-group foo
!
policy-map BAR
 class FOO

 police cir 200 bc 10 be 10
  conform-action transmit
  exceed-action drop
  violate-action drop
 class class-default
 police cir 100 bc 10 be 10
  conform-action transmit
  exceed-action drop
  violate-action drop

If the policy is more complex, it could get trickier..


oli



On 03/10/2013 05:13, Nam Nguyen nhna...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear all !

At the end of ACL 161, I have defined permit ip any any:
access-list 161 deny   ip any 1.53.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 161 deny   ip any 1.52.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 161 deny   ip any 1.54.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 161 deny   ip any 1.55.0.0 0.0.255.255
access-list 161 permit ip any any

I think it's ok but I couldn't see the counter.

Please help me

Thanks
Nam



On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Nam Nguyen nhna...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi !

 at the end of acl i have defined permit ip any any:
 - i need to block some traffic and permit the rest

 Nam Nguyen

  On 26-09-2013, at 19:02, Tony td_mi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  The error message seems to be fairly clear, you can't have DENY
 statements in ACL.
 
  As to why you are not seeing anything in your counters, you only have
 DENY statements and the end of every ACL is an implicit deny ip any
any
 this means that your ACL's will not match anything at all, so nothing
will
 go into your class.
 
  What are you trying to achieve ?
 
 
  regards,
  Tony.
 
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Nam Nguyen nhna...@gmail.com
  To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Cc:
  Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013 8:21 PM
  Subject: [c-nsp] Question configure QoS on ES20 Card, Cisco 7609
 
  Hi all !
 
  I have some problem when configure QoS on Cisco ES20 card:
 
  - When I applied policy-map on sub-interface (egress), I see error
  message: %G_QOS_CLASSIFY-DFC2-3-QOS_CONFIG:
  error detected: Can not support deny ace in ACL (161)
 
  - When I applied policy-map on sub-interface (ingress), It's okay but
I
  cann't see the counter. Below is example:
 
  class-map match-all UP
match access-group 161
  class-map match-all DOWN
match access-group 160
  class-map match-any MATCH_ALL
match access-group 100
 
  policy-map 3M (This policy-map: I can see counter when issue show
  policy-map interface)
class MATCH_ALL
  police cir 300 bc 30 be 30
   conform-action transmit
   exceed-action drop
   violate-action drop
 
  policy-map ABC (This policy-map apply to ingress ok but I cannot see
  counter when issue show policy-map interface )
class UP
  police cir 100 bc 10 be 10
   conform-action transmit
   exceed-action drop
   violate-action drop
class MATCH_ALL
  police cir 2000 bc 200 be 200
   conform-action transmit
   exceed-action drop
   violate-action drop
 
  Extended IP access list 100 (class MATCH_ALL)
  10 permit ip any any
 
  Extended IP access list 160 (class DOWN)
  10 deny ip 1.53.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
  20 deny ip 1.52.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
  30 deny ip 1.54.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
  40 deny ip 1.55.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
  ...
 
  Extended IP access list 161 (class UP)
  10 deny ip any 1.53.0.0 0.0.255.255
  20 deny ip any 1.52.0.0 0.0.255.255
  30 deny ip any 1.54.0.0 0.0.255.255
  40 deny ip any 1.55.0.0 0.0.255.255
  50 deny ip any 101.53.0.0 0.0.63.255
  ...
 
  Result show policy-map interface
 
  7609#sh policy-map int Po1.XYZ
  Port-channel1.2304332
 
Service-policy input: ABC
 
  Class-map: UP (match-all)
0 packets, 0 bytes
5 minute offered rate  bps, drop rate  bps
Match: access-group 161
police:
cir 1000 bps, bc 100 bytes, be 100 bytes
  conformed 0 packets, 0 bytes; actions:
transmit
  exceeded 0 packets, 0 bytes; actions:
drop
  violated 0 packets, 0 bytes; actions:
drop
  conformed  bps, exceed  bps, violate  bps
 
  Class-map: MATCH_ALL (match-any)
0 packets, 0 bytes
5 minute offered rate  bps, drop rate  bps
Match: access-group 100
police:
cir 1 bps, bc 1000 bytes, be 1000 bytes
  conformed 0 packets, 0 bytes; actions:
transmit
  

Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

2013-10-03 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Hi Waris,
So on ME3800 I read the l2pt tunnel is not supported on EFPs with
PW/xconnect configured on them, though IOS will let you enter the command
with no complains. 
So to work around this I should be using l2pt forward instead right? 

Is there actually a difference in function of these two commands please? 


adam
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Waris Sagheer (waris)
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 6:29 PM
To: Chris Russell; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Cc: Mostafa Mansour (mosmanso)
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

Hi Mostafa,
Can you help with ASR1K L2PT behavior? What is supported on ASR1K?

Hi Chris,
I am copying Mostafa (ASR 1K expert) to confirm the L2PT behavior on ASR1K.
Just a side note from ME perspective, I would recommend using L2PT forward
command rather than L2PT tunnel.

Best Regards,

[http://www.cisco.com/web/europe/images/email/signature/horizontal06.jpg]

Waris Sagheer
Technical Marketing Manager
Service Provider Access Group
wa...@cisco.commailto:wa...@cisco.com
Phone: +1 408 853 6682
Mobile: +1 408 835 1389

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From: Chris Russell ch...@nifry.commailto:ch...@nifry.com
Organization: ntech
Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 6:18 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

On 21/08/2013 10:00, Chris Russell wrote:
On 21/08/2013 09:54, Adam Vitkovsky wrote:
And I assume no BPDUs are passed either.
Is it possible to issue cmd: l2protocol peer or all the l2protocol
commands are rejected altogether?
Just to see if the L2protocol status changes somehow.


  As a final thread closing to this one, with thanks to various people,
especially Adam, who responded -

  L2 tunnelling of control packets (BPDUs) is NOT supported on the ASR1K.



Thanks

Chris

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Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

2013-10-03 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
Hi Adam,

With 'forward' the ethernet packets are forwarded 'as-is' through the
MPLS topology. With 'tunnel' the destination MAC address gets
rewritten to a 'special'  multicast MAC addresses, the remote end of
the 'tunnel' restores the original MAC address.

Forward can be used if both customer devices are connected directly to
PEs, if one side connects to a L2 only devices you have to use tunnel.

kind regards
Pshem


On 3 October 2013 21:23, Adam Vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@swan.sk wrote:
 Hi Waris,
 So on ME3800 I read the l2pt tunnel is not supported on EFPs with
 PW/xconnect configured on them, though IOS will let you enter the command
 with no complains.
 So to work around this I should be using l2pt forward instead right?

 Is there actually a difference in function of these two commands please?


 adam
 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
 Waris Sagheer (waris)
 Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 6:29 PM
 To: Chris Russell; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Cc: Mostafa Mansour (mosmanso)
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

 Hi Mostafa,
 Can you help with ASR1K L2PT behavior? What is supported on ASR1K?

 Hi Chris,
 I am copying Mostafa (ASR 1K expert) to confirm the L2PT behavior on ASR1K.
 Just a side note from ME perspective, I would recommend using L2PT forward
 command rather than L2PT tunnel.

 Best Regards,

 [http://www.cisco.com/web/europe/images/email/signature/horizontal06.jpg]

 Waris Sagheer
 Technical Marketing Manager
 Service Provider Access Group
 wa...@cisco.commailto:wa...@cisco.com
 Phone: +1 408 853 6682
 Mobile: +1 408 835 1389

 CCIE - 19901


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 Organization: ntech
 Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 6:18 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

 On 21/08/2013 10:00, Chris Russell wrote:
 On 21/08/2013 09:54, Adam Vitkovsky wrote:
 And I assume no BPDUs are passed either.
 Is it possible to issue cmd: l2protocol peer or all the l2protocol
 commands are rejected altogether?
 Just to see if the L2protocol status changes somehow.


   As a final thread closing to this one, with thanks to various people,
 especially Adam, who responded -

   L2 tunnelling of control packets (BPDUs) is NOT supported on the ASR1K.



 Thanks

 Chris

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Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

2013-10-03 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Hi Pshem,
I see so the tunnel feature/keyword basically applies everywhere where the 
BPDUs have to traverse (or be tunneled through) a native L2 switched network in 
order to get to the desired device/l2pt endpoint. 

adam
-Original Message-
From: Pshem Kowalczyk [mailto:pshe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:48 AM
To: Adam Vitkovsky
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

Hi Adam,

With 'forward' the ethernet packets are forwarded 'as-is' through the MPLS 
topology. With 'tunnel' the destination MAC address gets rewritten to a 
'special'  multicast MAC addresses, the remote end of the 'tunnel' restores the 
original MAC address.

Forward can be used if both customer devices are connected directly to PEs, if 
one side connects to a L2 only devices you have to use tunnel.

kind regards
Pshem


On 3 October 2013 21:23, Adam Vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@swan.sk wrote:
 Hi Waris,
 So on ME3800 I read the l2pt tunnel is not supported on EFPs with 
 PW/xconnect configured on them, though IOS will let you enter the 
 command with no complains.
 So to work around this I should be using l2pt forward instead right?

 Is there actually a difference in function of these two commands please?


 adam
 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf 
 Of Waris Sagheer (waris)
 Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 6:29 PM
 To: Chris Russell; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Cc: Mostafa Mansour (mosmanso)
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

 Hi Mostafa,
 Can you help with ASR1K L2PT behavior? What is supported on ASR1K?

 Hi Chris,
 I am copying Mostafa (ASR 1K expert) to confirm the L2PT behavior on ASR1K.
 Just a side note from ME perspective, I would recommend using L2PT 
 forward command rather than L2PT tunnel.

 Best Regards,

 [http://www.cisco.com/web/europe/images/email/signature/horizontal06.j
 pg]

 Waris Sagheer
 Technical Marketing Manager
 Service Provider Access Group
 wa...@cisco.commailto:wa...@cisco.com
 Phone: +1 408 853 6682
 Mobile: +1 408 835 1389

 CCIE - 19901


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 Organization: ntech
 Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 6:18 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

 On 21/08/2013 10:00, Chris Russell wrote:
 On 21/08/2013 09:54, Adam Vitkovsky wrote:
 And I assume no BPDUs are passed either.
 Is it possible to issue cmd: l2protocol peer or all the l2protocol 
 commands are rejected altogether?
 Just to see if the L2protocol status changes somehow.


   As a final thread closing to this one, with thanks to various 
 people, especially Adam, who responded -

   L2 tunnelling of control packets (BPDUs) is NOT supported on the ASR1K.



 Thanks

 Chris

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Re: [c-nsp] cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 131, Issue 6

2013-10-03 Thread Nam Nguyen
Hi !

Thank you so much for your support Oliver Boehmer  Tony.

I have tried to convert using ACL permit (not deny) and it's okay.

Thanks and Best Regards.

Nam


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 Today's Topics:

1. Re: Question configure QoS on ES20 Card, Cisco 7609 (Nam Nguyen)
2. Re: Question configure QoS on ES20 Card, Cisco 7609
   (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
3. Re: VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ? (Adam Vitkovsky)
4. Re: VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ? (Pshem Kowalczyk)


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 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Question configure QoS on ES20 Card, Cisco 7609
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 Dear all !

 At the end of ACL 161, I have defined permit ip any any:
 access-list 161 deny   ip any 1.53.0.0 0.0.255.255
 access-list 161 deny   ip any 1.52.0.0 0.0.255.255
 access-list 161 deny   ip any 1.54.0.0 0.0.255.255
 access-list 161 deny   ip any 1.55.0.0 0.0.255.255
 access-list 161 permit ip any any

 I think it's ok but I couldn't see the counter.

 Please help me

 Thanks
 Nam



 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Nam Nguyen nhna...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi !
 
  at the end of acl i have defined permit ip any any:
  - i need to block some traffic and permit the rest
 
  Nam Nguyen
 
   On 26-09-2013, at 19:02, Tony td_mi...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   The error message seems to be fairly clear, you can't have DENY
  statements in ACL.
  
   As to why you are not seeing anything in your counters, you only have
  DENY statements and the end of every ACL is an implicit deny ip any any
  this means that your ACL's will not match anything at all, so nothing
 will
  go into your class.
  
   What are you trying to achieve ?
  
  
   regards,
   Tony.
  
  
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Nam Nguyen nhna...@gmail.com
   To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
   Cc:
   Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013 8:21 PM
   Subject: [c-nsp] Question configure QoS on ES20 Card, Cisco 7609
  
   Hi all !
  
   I have some problem when configure QoS on Cisco ES20 card:
  
   - When I applied policy-map on sub-interface (egress), I see error
   message: %G_QOS_CLASSIFY-DFC2-3-QOS_CONFIG:
   error detected: Can not support deny ace in ACL (161)
  
   - When I applied policy-map on sub-interface (ingress), It's okay but I
   cann't see the counter. Below is example:
  
   class-map match-all UP
 match access-group 161
   class-map match-all DOWN
 match access-group 160
   class-map match-any MATCH_ALL
 match access-group 100
  
   policy-map 3M (This policy-map: I can see counter when issue show
   policy-map interface)
 class MATCH_ALL
   police cir 300 bc 30 be 30
conform-action transmit
exceed-action drop
violate-action drop
  
   policy-map ABC (This policy-map apply to ingress ok but I cannot see
   counter when issue show policy-map interface )
 class UP
   police cir 100 bc 10 be 10
conform-action transmit
exceed-action drop
violate-action drop
 class MATCH_ALL
   police cir 2000 bc 200 be 200
conform-action transmit
exceed-action drop
violate-action drop
  
   Extended IP access list 100 (class MATCH_ALL)
   10 permit ip any any
  
   Extended IP access list 160 (class DOWN)
   10 deny ip 1.53.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
   20 deny ip 1.52.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
   30 deny ip 1.54.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
   40 deny ip 1.55.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
   ...
  
   Extended IP access list 161 (class UP)
   10 deny ip any 1.53.0.0 0.0.255.255
   20 deny ip any 1.52.0.0 0.0.255.255
   30 deny ip any 1.54.0.0 0.0.255.255
   40 deny ip any 1.55.0.0 0.0.255.255
   50 deny ip any 101.53.0.0 0.0.63.255
   ...
  
   Result show policy-map interface
  
   7609#sh policy-map int Po1.XYZ
   Port-channel1.2304332
  
 Service-policy input: ABC
  
   Class-map: UP (match-all)
 0 packets, 0 bytes
 5 minute offered rate  bps, drop rate  bps
 Match: access-group 161
 police:
 cir 1000 bps, bc 

[c-nsp] c-nsp] VACL limitation in 6509

2013-10-03 Thread Ben Hammadi, Kayssar (NSN - TN/Tunis)
Dears ,

  After a long case discussed with Cisco TAC , this is the final configuration 
that make a VACL capture work successfully:  

vlan filter ASTELIA vlan-list 1356,1357,1351,
vlan filter ASTELIA vlan-list 3737,

interface GigabitEthernet9/23
 switchport
 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
 switchport mode trunk
 switchport capture
 
as you can see there is no correlation between the filter and the config on the 
interface that mean that you cannot configure another filter for another VACL 
for a different interface.
Does anyone successfully created several VACL on same 6509 switch ?

Br.

BEN HAMMADI Kayssar
 
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[c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Aaron
What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix server
virtual machine or something like that.

 

I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it ?

 

Aaron

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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Lane Wigley (lwigley)
I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL

http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I

Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.

- Lane


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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix server 
virtual machine or something like that.

 

I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it ?

 

Aaron

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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Oliver Garraux
I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on
VIRL.  Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around with
XR and NX-OS in the lab.

Oliver

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On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Lane Wigley (lwigley) lwig...@cisco.comwrote:

 I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL

 http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I

 Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.

 - Lane


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 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

 What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix
 server virtual machine or something like that.



 I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it
 ?



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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Jason Lixfeld
This should be free.

On 2013-10-03, at 10:55 AM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.net wrote:

 I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on
 VIRL.  Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around with
 XR and NX-OS in the lab.
 
 Oliver
 
 -
 
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 Check out my blog:  blog.garraux.net
 Follow me on Twitter:  twitter.com/olivergarraux
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Lane Wigley (lwigley) 
 lwig...@cisco.comwrote:
 
 I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL
 
 http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I
 
 Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.
 
 - Lane
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)
 
 What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix
 server virtual machine or something like that.
 
 
 
 I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it
 ?
 
 
 
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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Jason Lixfeld
It should be..  We pay enough for Software and licenses and SmartNet on this 
stuff.  The least they can do is give us something to help us test our 
networks...

On 2013-10-03, at 11:05 AM, Luan Nguyen luan20...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seriously doubt that it would be free.
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote:
 This should be free.
 
 On 2013-10-03, at 10:55 AM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.net wrote:
 
  I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on
  VIRL.  Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around with
  XR and NX-OS in the lab.
 
  Oliver
 
  -
 
  Oliver Garraux
  Check out my blog:  blog.garraux.net
  Follow me on Twitter:  twitter.com/olivergarraux
 
 
  On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Lane Wigley (lwigley) 
  lwig...@cisco.comwrote:
 
  I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL
 
  http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I
 
  Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.
 
  - Lane
 
 
  -Original Message-
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  Aaron
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
  To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)
 
  What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix
  server virtual machine or something like that.
 
 
 
  I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it
  ?
 
 
 
  Aaron
 
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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Aaron
VIRL sounds awesome.

I saw in Cisco TAC Case Open Tool, under IOS XR...   XRv (XR on a server).
XRv same as VIRL ?

Aaron

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Subject: RE: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL

http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I

Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.

- Lane


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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
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Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix server
virtual machine or something like that.

 

I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it ?

 

Aaron

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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread quinn snyder
on a side note -- it requires a lot of compute to run successfully (ram and 
proc). 

large scale networks will require large pools of  resources. 

the software may be free -- but running it may not be if you're short on 
servers. 

q. 

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 On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:08, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote:
 
 It should be..  We pay enough for Software and licenses and SmartNet on this 
 stuff.  The least they can do is give us something to help us test our 
 networks...
 
 On 2013-10-03, at 11:05 AM, Luan Nguyen luan20...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Seriously doubt that it would be free.
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote:
 This should be free.
 
 On 2013-10-03, at 10:55 AM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.net wrote:
 
 I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on
 VIRL.  Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around with
 XR and NX-OS in the lab.
 
 Oliver
 
 -
 
 Oliver Garraux
 Check out my blog:  blog.garraux.net
 Follow me on Twitter:  twitter.com/olivergarraux
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Lane Wigley (lwigley) 
 lwig...@cisco.comwrote:
 
 I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL
 
 http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I
 
 Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.
 
 - Lane
 
 
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 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)
 
 What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix
 server virtual machine or something like that.
 
 
 
 I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it
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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Aaron
Oh yeah !  it will be very sweet

 

Aaron

 

From: Oliver Garraux [mailto:oli...@g.garraux.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:55 AM
To: Lane Wigley (lwigley)
Cc: Aaron; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

 

I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on VIRL.
Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around with XR and
NX-OS in the lab.

 

Oliver




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wrote:

I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL

http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I

Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.

- Lane



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Aaron
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix server
virtual machine or something like that.



I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it ?



Aaron

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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread quinn snyder
 On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:12, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote:

 I saw in Cisco TAC Case Open Tool, under IOS XR...   XRv (XR on a server).
 XRv same as VIRL ?


xrvr == xr within virl. 

doesn't ncs run virtualized xr (xrv)?

q. 

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Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 QoS

2013-10-03 Thread Waris Sagheer (waris)
Hi Adam,
I will get back to the team with the resolution update.

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From: adam vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@swan.skmailto:adam.vitkov...@swan.sk
Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 12:32 AM
To: Waris Sagheer wa...@cisco.commailto:wa...@cisco.com, 'Darren O'Connor' 
darre...@outlook.commailto:darre...@outlook.com, 'Nick Ryce' 
n...@fluency.net.ukmailto:n...@fluency.net.uk, 
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Subject: RE: [c-nsp] ME3600 QoS

Hi Waris,
This issue was discovered on 15.3(1)S2.
The “multicast ingress to port-channel punted to CPU” issue is persistent in 
15.3(2)S2 as well.

adam

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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 QoS

Hi Adam and Darren,
Which software release you are using? EFP Link Bundling QOS is on the roadmap. 
I'll get back to you on the exact release.

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From: adam vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@swan.skmailto:adam.vitkov...@swan.sk
Date: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 6:29 AM
To: 'Darren O'Connor' darre...@outlook.commailto:darre...@outlook.com, 
'Nick Ryce' n...@fluency.net.ukmailto:n...@fluency.net.uk, 
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net 
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 QoS

Interesting we've had some 100% CPU until reload ourselves. It was related
to Port-channel and mcast.


adam


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Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 3:16 PM
To: Adam Vitkovsky; 'Nick Ryce'; 
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] ME3600 QoS


On that same vein of port channels. This morning my LACP ports bounced
between my me3600x test box and a Brocade XMR and for some odd reason it
caused my LSP tunnel interfaces to push the CPU up to 99% for a few hours.
Makes me weary about using a PO at all on this box

From: adam.vitkov...@swan.skmailto:adam.vitkov...@swan.sk
To: n...@fluency.net.ukmailto:n...@fluency.net.uk; 
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:52:17 +0200
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 QoS
 Can be applied to the member ports of the channel.
 Also you can't apply service policies to EFP's on a port channel either.

Thus my conclusion that port-channel interfaces on ME3600 are useless so
far
No incoming multicast
No BFD with ASR9k
No QOS
Though I'm not sure whether some of this has been fixed in the most recent
codes for X and CX
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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Luan Nguyen
Did someone get a chance to download whatever under XRv? it's page not
available currently.

If i remember correctly, my SE said you have to pay for it.
Beta is going right now and the list is long i was told. You have a better
chance of getting it from being leaked out then get on the beta.

Was thinking with titanium out, csr1000v, nexus1000v all available, now XRv
is out? all you need to do is piece them together yourself to get a poor
man VIRL.


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 Oh yeah !  it will be very sweet



 Aaron



 From: Oliver Garraux [mailto:oli...@g.garraux.net]
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:55 AM
 To: Lane Wigley (lwigley)
 Cc: Aaron; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)



 I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on
 VIRL.
 Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around with XR and
 NX-OS in the lab.



 Oliver




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 wrote:

 I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL

 http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I

 Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.

 - Lane



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 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

 What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix
 server
 virtual machine or something like that.



 I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it
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Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

2013-10-03 Thread Waris Sagheer (waris)
Hi Adam,
L2PT Tunneling as well as L2PT Forward are supported on ME platforms but 
recommended is L2PT Forward.
L2PT tunneling changes the destination mac address to well known Cisco mac 
address and can only work with remote devices supporting L2PT tunneling. It 
does not interoperate with non Cisco devices and even has limited support on 
Cisco devices.
L2PT Forward does not change the destination mac address and can interoperate 
with any Cisco or non Cisco devices. It also supports CE2.0 listed control 
BPDUs. Due to these reasons, recommendation would be to use L2PT Forward.
Below are the documents which has details.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=vpid=sitessrcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxtd2FyaXN8Z3g6NTk5NzNmNGUwOTYzZmFh
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=vpid=sitessrcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxtd2FyaXN8Z3g6NzI1MTc2YzdjNGI2YmQ1NA

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From: adam vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@swan.skmailto:adam.vitkov...@swan.sk
Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 1:23 AM
To: Waris Sagheer wa...@cisco.commailto:wa...@cisco.com, 'Chris Russell' 
ch...@nifry.commailto:ch...@nifry.com, 
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Subject: RE: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

Hi Waris,
So on ME3800 I read the l2pt tunnel is not supported on EFPs with
PW/xconnect configured on them, though IOS will let you enter the command
with no complains.
So to work around this I should be using l2pt forward instead right?

Is there actually a difference in function of these two commands please?


adam
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

Hi Mostafa,
Can you help with ASR1K L2PT behavior? What is supported on ASR1K?

Hi Chris,
I am copying Mostafa (ASR 1K expert) to confirm the L2PT behavior on ASR1K.
Just a side note from ME perspective, I would recommend using L2PT forward
command rather than L2PT tunnel.

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Organization: ntech
Date: Saturday, August 31, 2013 6:18 AM
To: 
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VPLS ASR1k - ME3800 - no L2 tunnelling ?

On 21/08/2013 10:00, Chris Russell wrote:
On 21/08/2013 09:54, Adam Vitkovsky wrote:
And I assume no BPDUs are passed either.
Is it possible to issue cmd: l2protocol peer or all the l2protocol
commands are rejected altogether?
Just to see if the L2protocol status changes somehow.


  As a final thread closing to this one, with thanks to various people,
especially Adam, who responded -

  L2 tunnelling of control packets (BPDUs) is NOT supported on the ASR1K.



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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Luan Nguyen
Seriously doubt that it would be free.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote:

 This should be free.

 On 2013-10-03, at 10:55 AM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.net wrote:

  I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on
  VIRL.  Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around
 with
  XR and NX-OS in the lab.
 
  Oliver
 
  -
 
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  Check out my blog:  blog.garraux.net
  Follow me on Twitter:  twitter.com/olivergarraux
 
 
  On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Lane Wigley (lwigley) 
 lwig...@cisco.comwrote:
 
  I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL
 
  http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I
 
  Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.
 
  - Lane
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
  Aaron
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
  To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)
 
  What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix
  server virtual machine or something like that.
 
 
 
  I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download
 it
  ?
 
 
 
  Aaron
 
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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Rati Berikaant Jokhadze

Free? are you sure?

On 10/03/2013 07:02 PM, Jason Lixfeld wrote:

This should be free.

On 2013-10-03, at 10:55 AM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.net wrote:


I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on
VIRL.  Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around with
XR and NX-OS in the lab.

Oliver

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On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Lane Wigley (lwigley) lwig...@cisco.comwrote:


I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL

http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I

Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.

- Lane


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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix
server virtual machine or something like that.



I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it
?



Aaron

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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
On 03 Oct 2013, at 17:12, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote:

 VIRL sounds awesome.
 
 I saw in Cisco TAC Case Open Tool, under IOS XR...   XRv (XR on a server).
 XRv same as VIRL ?

VIRL is a platform for virtualized software packages.

vIOS, XRv, CSR 1000v and so on are examples of such packages.

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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
On 03 Oct 2013, at 17:18, quinn snyder snyd...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:12, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote:
 
 I saw in Cisco TAC Case Open Tool, under IOS XR...   XRv (XR on a server).
 XRv same as VIRL ?
 
 xrvr == xr within virl. 
 
 doesn't ncs run virtualized xr (xrv)?

Yes it does.

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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Rati Berikaant Jokhadze

I dont remember any product from cisco for free :-)

On 10/03/2013 07:08 PM, Jason Lixfeld wrote:

It should be..  We pay enough for Software and licenses and SmartNet on this 
stuff.  The least they can do is give us something to help us test our 
networks...

On 2013-10-03, at 11:05 AM, Luan Nguyen luan20...@gmail.com wrote:


Seriously doubt that it would be free.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote:
This should be free.

On 2013-10-03, at 10:55 AM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.net wrote:


I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on
VIRL.  Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around with
XR and NX-OS in the lab.

Oliver

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On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Lane Wigley (lwigley) lwig...@cisco.comwrote:


I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL

http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I

Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.

- Lane


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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix
server virtual machine or something like that.



I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it
?



Aaron

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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Aaron
Nobody said free. Just speculated.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Rati Berikaant Jokhadze
iinf...@gmail.comwrote:

 I dont remember any product from cisco for free :-)


 On 10/03/2013 07:08 PM, Jason Lixfeld wrote:

 It should be..  We pay enough for Software and licenses and SmartNet on
 this stuff.  The least they can do is give us something to help us test our
 networks...

 On 2013-10-03, at 11:05 AM, Luan Nguyen luan20...@gmail.com wrote:

  Seriously doubt that it would be free.


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote:
 This should be free.

 On 2013-10-03, at 10:55 AM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.net wrote:

  I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on
 VIRL.  Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around
 with
 XR and NX-OS in the lab.

 Oliver

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 Follow me on Twitter:  twitter.com/olivergarraux


 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Lane Wigley (lwigley) 
 lwig...@cisco.comwrote:

  I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL

 http://www.cisco.com/web/**solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/**
 virl/index.htmlhttp://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=nsbzHmwUz6Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I

 Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.

 - Lane


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 Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

 What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix
 server virtual machine or something like that.



 I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I
 get/download it
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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 03/10/2013 16:16, quinn snyder wrote:
 on a side note -- it requires a lot of compute to run successfully (ram
 and proc).

It shouldn't need that much (although the csr1000v's insane compute
requirements are a complete mystery to me) - anyway, ram and cpu are both
cheap resources these days.

 large scale networks will require large pools of  resources.

This may or may not be true, depending on the scale of what you're trying
to model.  A hypervisor with 8 cores and 128 gigs of ram costs a small
amount of money, and would be enough to run a relatively large model
deployment.

 the software may be free -- but running it may not be if you're short on
 servers.

The software costs money to develop but there is no cost associated with
making another copy of it.

The most important thing for Cisco to remember is that it's trivial to
build virtualised test labs with Junos Olive.  This approach allows people
to learn enough about the operating system that they feel comfortable about
switching to or buying more Juniper kit.  I know a good many people who
started out with Olive and who liked it so much they started buying Juniper
kit in volume.  Cisco really missed the boat on this - to their cost.

I don't particularly expect Cisco to provide this sort of facility for
free, but unless they refrain from their usual policy of premium pricing,
I'll shrug my shoulders, then move on and spend my budgets on other vendors.

Nick

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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread quinn snyder

On 3-Oct-13, at 11:00 , Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:

 On 03/10/2013 16:16, quinn snyder wrote:
 on a side note -- it requires a lot of compute to run successfully (ram
 and proc).
 
 It shouldn't need that much (although the csr1000v's insane compute
 requirements are a complete mystery to me) - anyway, ram and cpu are both
 cheap resources these days.

yes. in comparison to outright purchase and installation of kit, this is *much* 
cheaper.  i'm just adding a point that it won't be able to run in a small 
footprint, which was the vibe that i received when it was released at live! 
this year.
the front-end management tools are light and run happily on modest resources -- 
but the actual orchestration on the backend requires more resources, especially 
as the instances are building and running.

 
 large scale networks will require large pools of  resources.
 
 This may or may not be true, depending on the scale of what you're trying
 to model.  A hypervisor with 8 cores and 128 gigs of ram costs a small
 amount of money, and would be enough to run a relatively large model
 deployment.

i think the higher ceiling to hit will be in regards to (virtual) processors -- 
not the ram (as ram has scaled much faster than cores per box).  there are some 
pretty finicky requirements and while its possible to kind of load share 
around them -- if resource contention is felt -- the software doesn't exactly 
fail gracefully.

 
 the software may be free -- but running it may not be if you're short on
 servers.
 
 The software costs money to develop but there is no cost associated with
 making another copy of it.
 
 The most important thing for Cisco to remember is that it's trivial to
 build virtualised test labs with Junos Olive.  This approach allows people
 to learn enough about the operating system that they feel comfortable about
 switching to or buying more Juniper kit.  I know a good many people who
 started out with Olive and who liked it so much they started buying Juniper
 kit in volume.  Cisco really missed the boat on this - to their cost.
 
 I don't particularly expect Cisco to provide this sort of facility for
 free, but unless they refrain from their usual policy of premium pricing,
 I'll shrug my shoulders, then move on and spend my budgets on other vendors.

and i see this being a cisco-centric answer to an olive or even junosphere 
(though there are usage costs to junonsphere that i'm not well versed in).  i'm 
not exactly sure how this will be marketed or where it will be positioned.  i 
just know what my experience in using the software has been.  i see a lot of 
potential use cases with the software -- even though it has a *long* way to go 
in terms of features and software support.  i know that we're internally 
looking at ways that we can tie this in with different aspects of our labs and 
demos in an effort to help augment our physical demo's and proof-of-concepts.  
it has a ways to go -- but it has promise and we're providing feedback to the 
dev teams on what we're seeing.

as you say -- for most customers -- it will come down to price vs. reward.  
everyone has their own sweet spot.  it just all depends on if cisco hits that 
mark.

q.

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Re: [c-nsp] ME3600x SNMP items for power supplies disappear when PSU is pulled

2013-10-03 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Waris Sagheer (waris) wa...@cisco.com wrote:

 ME3600X does send out traps.

Correct. But receiving traps means monitoring that traps are received
and processed, sending test traps, etc. This is why we don't use traps
for anything.

Polling means we _know_ the data is current. If there's no data when
polling, a general alarm can be raised.

To put it another way, polling is more expensive than catching traps,
but more reliable.


Thanks,
Richard

PS: Can you log a request to add the data for missing PSU as well.
I.e. to make ME3600x act like C6500 in this regard. Or should I do
that via TAC?
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Re: [c-nsp] ME3600x SNMP items for power supplies disappear when PSU is pulled

2013-10-03 Thread Waris Sagheer (waris)
Hi Richard,
Please open a case and send me the number so that I can work with engineering 
to understand the possibility of implementing it on our platform.

Best Regards,

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From: Richard Hartmann 
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Date: Thursday, October 3, 2013 12:38 PM
To: Waris Sagheer wa...@cisco.commailto:wa...@cisco.com
Cc: Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fimailto:s...@ytti.fi, 
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net 
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600x SNMP items for power supplies disappear when PSU 
is pulled

On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Waris Sagheer (waris) 
wa...@cisco.commailto:wa...@cisco.com wrote:

ME3600X does send out traps.

Correct. But receiving traps means monitoring that traps are received
and processed, sending test traps, etc. This is why we don't use traps
for anything.

Polling means we _know_ the data is current. If there's no data when
polling, a general alarm can be raised.

To put it another way, polling is more expensive than catching traps,
but more reliable.


Thanks,
Richard

PS: Can you log a request to add the data for missing PSU as well.
I.e. to make ME3600x act like C6500 in this regard. Or should I do
that via TAC?

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Re: [c-nsp] me3600 Can NOT match ACL in an output policy-map

2013-10-03 Thread Waris Sagheer (waris)
Hi Adam,
ME does not support ACL match in the egress policy and there is no plan to 
support it. However you can use the workaround ACLs can be matched in ingress 
policies and set qos-group. The qos-group can be matched in egress policies.

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From: Waris Sagheer wa...@cisco.commailto:wa...@cisco.com
Date: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 8:54 AM
To: adam vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@swan.skmailto:adam.vitkov...@swan.sk, 
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] me3600 Can NOT match ACL in an output policy-map

Hi Adam,
Let me get back to you on this.

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From: adam vitkovsky 
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Date: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 12:37 AM
To: 
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Subject: [c-nsp] me3600 Can NOT match ACL in an output policy-map

Hi Waris, folks,
Is the ACL match in an output policy-map a hardware limitation or is there a
plan to add this feature in future releases please?
Or how do you folks work around this limitation please?
Thank you.

adam


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