Re: [c-nsp] MSTP between Cisco / Brocade

2012-04-26 Thread Steven Raymond

On Apr 25, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Randy wrote:

 Who is:
  
 0015.62b7.0dc0 with a bridge-priority of 16384?
  
 That is the who the cisco is blocking.
  
 From Brocade-output above:
  
 Bridge: 8024389c3d00 [Priority 32768, SysId 0, Mac 0024389c3d00]
 
 ./Randy

The mac in question is the Cisco's:
ar01.prov#sh spanning-tree active 

MST0
  Spanning tree enabled protocol mstp
  Root IDPriority16384
 Address 0015.62b7.0dc0
 This bridge is the root


But nevermind I suppose, the issue is resolved with help from Brocade TAC.  The 
MLX defaults to route-only which apparently means every port acts like 
Cisco's equivalent to no switchport or layer-3 only mode.  So it would 
receive the MLX's BPDUs and silently discard them.  Here's the strange part, 
despite being set for route-only, the MLX still transmits BPDUs.  Which the 
Cisco received, detected that the MLX said port role is designated, and put 
it into blocking dispute since Cisco is the real root.

Is it common  expected for swouters to tx BPDUs when the port is in 
layer-3-only mode?  Or am I just not getting the idea behind route-only in 
Brocade?


Thanks for the help!



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Re: [c-nsp] MSTP between Cisco / Brocade

2012-04-26 Thread Steven Raymond

On Apr 26, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Steven Raymond wrote:

 The MLX defaults to route-only which apparently means every port acts like 
 Cisco's equivalent to no switchport or layer-3 only mode.  So it would 
 receive the MLX's BPDUs and silently discard them.  

s/receive the MLX's/receive the Cisco's/

Meh my crappy proofreading.




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Re: [c-nsp] MSTP between Cisco / Brocade

2012-04-26 Thread sthaug
 Is it common  expected for swouters to tx BPDUs when the port is in 
 layer-3-only mode?  Or am I just not getting the idea behind route-only in 
 Brocade?

I would definitely not expect a routed interface to transmit BPDUs
by default.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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[c-nsp] MSTP between Cisco / Brocade

2012-04-25 Thread Steven Raymond
Have a single layer 2 connection between 7609, version 12.2(33)SRD4, 6708, with 
a 10G connection to Brocade.  Using simplest form of MSTP, it works fine to a 
Brocade TI24X switch, running version 4 something.

Move the same cable to a 10G port on a MLXe, version 5.2.0T165, the Cisco 
blocks the port as the following:

ar01.prov#show spanning-tree active detail 
 Port 4 (TenGigabitEthernet1/4) of MST0 is designated blocking (dispute)
   Port path cost 2000, Port priority 128, Port Identifier 128.4.
   Designated root has priority 16384, address 0015.62b7.0dc0
   Designated bridge has priority 16384, address 0015.62b7.0dc0
   Designated port id is 128.4, designated path cost 0
   Timers: message age 0, forward delay 14, hold 0
   Number of transitions to forwarding state: 0
   Link type is point-to-point by default, Internal
   BPDU: sent 20540, received 10287

Google suggests that this may be caused by both switches' ports declaring they 
are designated role for the segment, and the Cisco proceeds to block as a 
defense against uni-directional link.  But these same optics and cables work 
fine on the other device.  Even so, they have been swapped with same 
circumstance.  Am certain there is no uni-directional link here.

Other searching says that Cisco is bad and sends the BPDUs tagged and that 
native vlan tagging must be removed, which is not enabled to begin with.

Brocade said to add pvst-mode to the interface config on the MLXe side, but 
it did not help at all.  And I don't understand what PVST has to do with MSTP 
as currently configured.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!!




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Re: [c-nsp] MSTP between Cisco / Brocade

2012-04-25 Thread Randy
--- On Wed, 4/25/12, Steven Raymond sraym...@acedatacenter.com wrote:

 From: Steven Raymond sraym...@acedatacenter.com
 Subject: [c-nsp] MSTP between Cisco / Brocade
 To: cisco-nsp Service Providers cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 1:52 PM
 Have a single layer 2 connection
 between 7609, version 12.2(33)SRD4, 6708, with a 10G
 connection to Brocade.  Using simplest form of MSTP, it
 works fine to a Brocade TI24X switch, running version 4
 something.
 
 Move the same cable to a 10G port on a MLXe, version
 5.2.0T165, the Cisco blocks the port as the following:
 
 ar01.prov#show spanning-tree active detail 
  Port 4 (TenGigabitEthernet1/4) of MST0 is designated
 blocking (dispute)
    Port path cost 2000, Port priority 128,
 Port Identifier 128.4.
    Designated root has priority 16384,
 address 0015.62b7.0dc0
    Designated bridge has priority 16384,
 address 0015.62b7.0dc0
    Designated port id is 128.4, designated
 path cost 0
    Timers: message age 0, forward delay 14,
 hold 0
    Number of transitions to forwarding state:
 0
    Link type is point-to-point by default,
 Internal
    BPDU: sent 20540, received 10287
 
 Google suggests that this may be caused by both switches'
 ports declaring they are designated role for the segment,
 and the Cisco proceeds to block as a defense against
 uni-directional link.  But these same optics and cables
 work fine on the other device.  Even so, they have been
 swapped with same circumstance.  Am certain there is no
 uni-directional link here.
 
 Other searching says that Cisco is bad and sends the BPDUs
 tagged and that native vlan tagging must be removed, which
 is not enabled to begin with.
 
 Brocade said to add pvst-mode to the interface config on
 the MLXe side, but it did not help at all.  And I don't
 understand what PVST has to do with MSTP as currently
 configured.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks!!


...I haven't played with Foundry/Brocade for a while.

It is clear that on the Cisco you have enabled 802.1s(MISTP)

I am not clear if you have 802.1s OR 802-1w enabled on the Brocade(care to post 
the stp output from Brocade?)

I ask because in the past Brocade/Foundry referred to 802.1W(R-PVST in 
Cisco-speak) as MULTIPLE-SPANNING-TREE!

./Randy 

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Re: [c-nsp] MSTP between Cisco / Brocade

2012-04-25 Thread Steven Raymond

On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Randy wrote:

 I am not clear if you have 802.1s OR 802-1w enabled on the Brocade(care to 
 post the stp output from Brocade?)


sh run | i mstp
mstp name acedc   
mstp revision 1
mstp instance 0 vlan 1 to 4090
mstp start



tel...@ar04.prov#show mstp detail 
MSTP Instance 0 (CIST) - VLAN Scope: 1 to 4090 

  Bridge: 8024389c3d00 [Priority 32768, SysId 0, Mac 0024389c3d00]
  FwdDelay 15, HelloTime 2, MaxHops 20, TxHoldCount 6

Port 2/1 - Role: DESIGNATED - State: FORWARDING
  PathCost 2000, Priority 128, OperEdge T, OperPt2PtMac F, Boundary N/A
  Designated   - Root 8024389c3d00, RegionalRoot 8024389c3d00,
 Bridge 8024389c3d00, ExtCost 0, IntCost 0
  ActiveTimers - helloWhen 2
  MachineState - PRX-DISCARD, PTX-IDLE, PPM-SENDING_RSTP, PIM-CURRENT
 PRT-ACTIVE_PORT, PST-FORWARDING, TCM-INACTIVE
  BPDUs- Rcvd MST 0, RST 0, Config 0, TCN 0
 Sent MST 11, RST 0, Config 0, TCN 0


tel...@ar04.prov#sh spanning-tree 
tel...@ar04.prov#show rstp
tel...@ar04.prov#

That helpful?

Thanks!

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Re: [c-nsp] MSTP between Cisco / Brocade

2012-04-25 Thread Randy
--- On Wed, 4/25/12, Steven Raymond sraym...@acedatacenter.com wrote:


From: Steven Raymond sraym...@acedatacenter.com
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] MSTP between Cisco / Brocade
To: Randy randy_94...@yahoo.com
Cc: cisco-nsp Service Providers cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 3:03 PM






On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Randy wrote:

I am not clear if you have 802.1s OR 802-1w enabled on the Brocade(care to post 
the stp output from Brocade?)

sh run | i mstp


mstp name acedc                           
mstp revision 1
mstp instance 0 vlan 1 to 4090
mstp start







tel...@ar04.prov#show mstp detail 
MSTP Instance 0 (CIST) - VLAN Scope: 1 to 4090 

  Bridge: 8024389c3d00 [Priority 32768, SysId 0, Mac 0024389c3d00]
  FwdDelay 15, HelloTime 2, MaxHops 20, TxHoldCount 6


Port 2/1 - Role: DESIGNATED - State: FORWARDING
  PathCost 2000, Priority 128, OperEdge T, OperPt2PtMac F, Boundary N/A
  Designated   - Root 8024389c3d00, RegionalRoot 8024389c3d00,
                 Bridge 8024389c3d00, ExtCost 0, IntCost 0
  ActiveTimers - helloWhen 2
  MachineState - PRX-DISCARD, PTX-IDLE, PPM-SENDING_RSTP, PIM-CURRENT
                 PRT-ACTIVE_PORT, PST-FORWARDING, TCM-INACTIVE
  BPDUs        - Rcvd MST 0, RST 0, Config 0, TCN 0
                 Sent MST 11, RST 0, Config 0, TCN 0





tel...@ar04.prov#sh spanning-tree 
tel...@ar04.prov#show rstp
tel...@ar04.prov#


That helpful?


Thanks!
 
 
Yes  No.
Yes: both devices are running 802.1s
 
No:  Because of outputs posted:
 
Output from Brocade-above:
Bridge: 8024389c3d00 [Priority 32768, SysId 0, Mac 0024389c3d00]
 
Output from Cisco:
Port 4 (TenGigabitEthernet1/4) of MST0 is designated
blocking (dispute)
Port path cost 2000, Port priority 128,
Port Identifier 128.4.
Designated root has priority 16384,
address 0015.62b7.0dc0
Designated bridge has priority 16384,
address 0015.62b7.0dc0
 
 
Who is:
 
0015.62b7.0dc0 with a bridge-priority of 16384?
 
That is the who the cisco is blocking.
 
From Brocade-output above:
 
Bridge: 8024389c3d00 [Priority 32768, SysId 0, Mac 0024389c3d00]

./Randy
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