Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-30 Thread Ziv Leyes
What OS are you using?
IF you have a linux box somewhere, just run tail -f /var/log/messages and 
then plug the cable, it will tell you what it sees.
I think in windows you can also see some information about the chip if you go 
to the device manager and check the properties of the detected device, there's 
a lot of cryptographic information about the USB devices, but in one of the 
tabs you can see something like PL230 or the like, if it's a prolific.
Ziv


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From: Nikolay Shopik [mailto:sho...@inblock.ru] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:09 AM
To: Ziv Leyes; cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

I wonder what kind chip Cisco using, usual Prolific pl2303?. Just don't 
wanna mess with drivers on OS differ from Windows.

On 29/06/11 10:54, Ziv Leyes wrote:
 You can get a Cisco original cable for 18 bucks here: http://goo.gl/nM7nQ

 Or, if you don't really think you need the original, you can buy a regular 
 USB Type-A to Mini-USB Type-B for one buck here: http://goo.gl/fV5br

 You'll still need to install the driver on your PC to make the USB port act 
 as a serial port, more info about this and links to download the driver here: 
 http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/cisco-usb-console-ports

 Hope this helps
 Ziv




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 They are now a $30 list price option.

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 Hey everyone,

 We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is this new 
 policy for new platforms?

 I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-29 Thread Ziv Leyes
You can get a Cisco original cable for 18 bucks here: http://goo.gl/nM7nQ

Or, if you don't really think you need the original, you can buy a regular USB 
Type-A to Mini-USB Type-B for one buck here: http://goo.gl/fV5br

You'll still need to install the driver on your PC to make the USB port act as 
a serial port, more info about this and links to download the driver here: 
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/cisco-usb-console-ports

Hope this helps
Ziv




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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

They are now a $30 list price option.

Jim

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Subject: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

Hey everyone,

We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is this new 
policy for new platforms?

I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-29 Thread Nikolay Shopik
I wonder what kind chip Cisco using, usual Prolific pl2303?. Just don't 
wanna mess with drivers on OS differ from Windows.


On 29/06/11 10:54, Ziv Leyes wrote:

You can get a Cisco original cable for 18 bucks here: http://goo.gl/nM7nQ

Or, if you don't really think you need the original, you can buy a regular USB 
Type-A to Mini-USB Type-B for one buck here: http://goo.gl/fV5br

You'll still need to install the driver on your PC to make the USB port act as 
a serial port, more info about this and links to download the driver here: 
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/cisco-usb-console-ports

Hope this helps
Ziv




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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

They are now a $30 list price option.

Jim

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Subject: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

Hey everyone,

We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is this new 
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I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-29 Thread Ziv Leyes
I think my previous mail contained too many hyperlinks and it was filtered and 
perhaps blocked?
Let's try again, please read below

You can get a Cisco original cable for 18 bucks at www.fullsourcesecurity.com, 
go to HomeCable and find Cisco CAB-CONSOLE-USB Console Cable 6 ft with USB 
Type A and mini-B

Or, if you don't really think you need the original, you can buy a regular USB 
Type-A to Mini-USB Type-B for around $1! Just google the cable type in shopping 
and you'll find tons of websites to buy from

You'll still need to install the driver on your PC to make the USB port act as 
a serial port, more info about this and links to download the driver here:
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/cisco-usb-console-ports;

Hope this helps
Ziv



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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

They are now a $30 list price option.

Jim

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Subject: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

Hey everyone,

We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is this new 
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I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.

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[c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Nikolay Shopik

Hey everyone,

We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is 
this new policy for new platforms?


I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 12:55 +0400, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
 We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is 
 this new policy for new platforms?
 
 I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.

Hm... I seem to remember that cables are included with the 3560X-24P
switches we purches regularly. I'm not certain, but I'll try to verify
it and post back.

They still have a regular console port (RJ45 connector, serial) so the
cables used for all other recent Cisco devices can be re-used.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Nikolay Shopik

On 28/06/11 13:26, Peter Rathlev wrote:

They still have a regular console port (RJ45 connector, serial) so the
cables used for all other recent Cisco devices can be re-used.


Yeah that's not problem, we have spare cables from old device. Rarely 
but sometimes you need cable/per device. When you have installed only 
one device on site, so I'm wondering is this just our package or new 
policy not to include even RJ45 console cables.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Tim Franklin
 Yeah that's not problem, we have spare cables from old device. Rarely
 but sometimes you need cable/per device. When you have installed only
 one device on site, so I'm wondering is this just our package or new
 policy not to include even RJ45 console cables.

I believe it's now a zero-cost option, along with things like the pack of 
documentation.  SPs were complaining in the other direction that they had 
cupboards full of cables, DB9 adapters, and how to set up your first Cisco 
router / why plugging mains into the Ethernet port is Bad booklets in 20 
languages...

At one point, green and regular part numbers were mooted, but I think 
that's now gone.

Just checked the latest delivery of boxes next to me (2911s), and I do indeed 
have power cables, read me first, and rack ears, but no console.

Regards,
Tim.
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Nikolay Shopik

On 28/06/11 14:05, Tim Franklin wrote:

I believe it's now a zero-cost option, along with things like the pack of 
documentation.


So you basically need add another part-number(which on btw?) to your 
order and this cost you 0$.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Tim Franklin
 So you basically need add another part-number(which on btw?) to your
 order and this cost you 0$.

CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45 (RJ45 - DB9F)
CAB-CONSOLE-USB

Also CAB-AUX-RJ45 (RJ45-DB25M) if you want to hook up a modem.

Regards,
Tim.
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Holemans Wim
Nothing comes free with Cisco (unless this changed since we got our latest copy 
of the GPL in feb) :

CAB-CONSOLE-USB=Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$
CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45Console Cable 6ft with RJ45 and DB9F  30,00$
CAB-CONSOLE-USB Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$

Wim Holemans
Netwerkdienst Universiteit Antwerpen
Network Services University of Antwerp


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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

 So you basically need add another part-number(which on btw?) to your
 order and this cost you 0$.

CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45 (RJ45 - DB9F)
CAB-CONSOLE-USB

Also CAB-AUX-RJ45 (RJ45-DB25M) if you want to hook up a modem.

Regards,
Tim.
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:19:02AM +, Holemans Wim wrote:
 Nothing comes free with Cisco (unless this changed since we got our latest 
 copy of the GPL in feb) :
 
 CAB-CONSOLE-USB=  Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$
 CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45  Console Cable 6ft with RJ45 and DB9F  30,00$
 CAB-CONSOLE-USB   Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$

But that's as free as it gets, given that the lowest price for anything
used to be 50$...

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Jim McBurnett
They are now a $30 list price option.

Jim

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Subject: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

Hey everyone,

We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is this new 
policy for new platforms?

I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Jim McBurnett
I remember a console cable kit back in the day that was $100. 
Now I feel old


Jim

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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

Hi,

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:19:02AM +, Holemans Wim wrote:
 Nothing comes free with Cisco (unless this changed since we got our latest 
 copy of the GPL in feb) :
 
 CAB-CONSOLE-USB=  Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$
 CAB-CONSOLE-RJ45  Console Cable 6ft with RJ45 and DB9F  30,00$
 CAB-CONSOLE-USB   Console Cable 6 ft with USB Type A and mini-B   30,00$

But that's as free as it gets, given that the lowest price for anything used to 
be 50$...

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Console cables on new platforms

2011-06-28 Thread Tony Varriale

On 6/28/2011 3:55 AM, Nikolay Shopik wrote:

Hey everyone,

We just received our 3560X and no console cables included at all, is 
this new policy for new platforms?


I mean no RS-232-RJ45 or new mini-usb console cable at all.



Yes.  That is an orderable part number now.  And, it's not free.

I'm glad because the last thing I need to do it throw out one more cable.

tv
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