Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

2010-02-19 Thread Smales, Robert
Another option is to have a loopback address on the far end device with a 
static route on the near end device pointing at the exit interface (not the 
next-hop IP). That way you can telnet to the loopback address and overwrite the 
interface address without breaking your telnet session.

Reload in 5 as a precaution, of course.

Robert

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 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net]on Behalf Of Johan Grip
 Sent: 18 February 2010 15:21
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces
 
 
 On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:22:26 +0100, Steve Bertrand 
 st...@ibctech.ca  
 wrote:
 
  On 2010.02.18 03:22, Brian Turnbow wrote:
  Besides the reload in xx that several have mentioned you 
 can also put  
  secondary Ips on the link
  Nad then cancel the primary.
 
  I.e.
  interface ATM0/0.32 point-to-point
  Ip add 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.252 secondary
 
  Telnet/ssh to this address using source address 2.2.2.1
  Then no ip add 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
  The 2.2.2.2 address becomes the priamry and you should not 
 loose the  
  management session.
 
  Does this work differently on a serial interface? On an fa int:
 
  route-server1(config)#int lo75
  route-server1(config-if)#ip address 208.70.109.155 255.255.255.255
  route-server1(config-if)#ip address 208.70.109.156 
 255.255.255.255 sec
  route-server1(config-if)#no ip address 208.70.109.155 
 255.255.255.255
 
  Must delete secondary before deleting primary
 
  Steve
 
 This is how I usually do it.
 
 ---
 Router#sh run int fa0/0
 Building configuration...
 
 Current configuration : 136 bytes
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/0
   ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0 secondary
   ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
   duplex auto
   speed auto
 end
 
 Router#conf t
 Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
 Router(config)#int fa0/0
 Router(config-if)#ip add 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
 Router(config-if)#^Z
 Router#
 Router#sh run int fa0/0
 Building configuration...
 
 Current configuration : 92 bytes
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/0
   ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
   duplex auto
   speed auto
 end
 
 Router#
 ---
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

2010-02-19 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou

Isn't configuration rollback supposed to bypass the reload in 5 issue?

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Gert Doering wrote on 17/02/2010 22:30:

Always remember to put in reload in 5 before you do anything that might
lock you out, and reload cancel afterwards...

gert
  



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Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

2010-02-18 Thread Brian Turnbow
Besides the reload in xx that several have mentioned you can also put secondary 
Ips on the link 
Nad then cancel the primary. 

I.e. 
interface ATM0/0.32 point-to-point
Ip add 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.252 secondary 

Telnet/ssh to this address using source address 2.2.2.1
Then no ip add 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252 
The 2.2.2.2 address becomes the priamry and you should not loose the management 
session.


Don't forget to cancell the reload


Brian 

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Sent: mercoledì 17 febbraio 2010 19.20
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

I have a bunch of T-1 (ATM) interfaces that I need to renumber. I have
always done this with 2 people, one on each end. Is it possible for one
person to do this, from one end ?
If I am on the near side, I log into the far sides serial IP and do this:

LALMR_2620(config)#interface ATM0/0.32 point-to-point
LALMR_2620(config-subif)#ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
LALMR_2620(config-subif)#^Z


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Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

2010-02-18 Thread craig
 I have a bunch of T-1 (ATM) interfaces that I need to renumber. I have
 always done this with 2 people, one on each end. Is it possible for one
 person to do this, from one end ?
 If I am on the near side, I log into the far sides serial IP and do this:


You could setup ipv6 between the two routers and ssh/telnet over that
while you are changing the ipv4 settings.

Craig.
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Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

2010-02-18 Thread Brian Turnbow
Sorry the last line should be 

ip address 208.70.109.156 255.255.255.255 

Making the secondary primary, and removing the primary.
I remember doing it with no ip address x.x.x.x but I just tried and it 
gives me the same error.
Too much lunch I think.




Brian  


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From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:st...@ibctech.ca] 
Sent: giovedì 18 febbraio 2010 14.22
To: Brian Turnbow
Cc: james edwards; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

On 2010.02.18 03:22, Brian Turnbow wrote:
 Besides the reload in xx that several have mentioned you can also put 
 secondary Ips on the link 
 Nad then cancel the primary. 
 
 I.e. 
 interface ATM0/0.32 point-to-point
 Ip add 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.252 secondary 
 
 Telnet/ssh to this address using source address 2.2.2.1
 Then no ip add 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252 
 The 2.2.2.2 address becomes the priamry and you should not loose the 
 management session.

Does this work differently on a serial interface? On an fa int:

route-server1(config)#int lo75
route-server1(config-if)#ip address 208.70.109.155 255.255.255.255
route-server1(config-if)#ip address 208.70.109.156 255.255.255.255 sec
route-server1(config-if)#no ip address 208.70.109.155 255.255.255.255

Must delete secondary before deleting primary

Steve
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Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

2010-02-18 Thread Johan Grip
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:22:26 +0100, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca  
wrote:



On 2010.02.18 03:22, Brian Turnbow wrote:
Besides the reload in xx that several have mentioned you can also put  
secondary Ips on the link

Nad then cancel the primary.

I.e.
interface ATM0/0.32 point-to-point
Ip add 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.252 secondary

Telnet/ssh to this address using source address 2.2.2.1
Then no ip add 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
The 2.2.2.2 address becomes the priamry and you should not loose the  
management session.


Does this work differently on a serial interface? On an fa int:

route-server1(config)#int lo75
route-server1(config-if)#ip address 208.70.109.155 255.255.255.255
route-server1(config-if)#ip address 208.70.109.156 255.255.255.255 sec
route-server1(config-if)#no ip address 208.70.109.155 255.255.255.255

Must delete secondary before deleting primary

Steve


This is how I usually do it.

---
Router#sh run int fa0/0
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 136 bytes
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0 secondary
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 duplex auto
 speed auto
end

Router#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
Router(config)#int fa0/0
Router(config-if)#ip add 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
Router(config-if)#^Z
Router#
Router#sh run int fa0/0
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 92 bytes
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
 duplex auto
 speed auto
end

Router#
---

//Johan
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Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

2010-02-18 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 08:58:56AM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote:
 I suppose that considering that this is a PtP link, the OP could apply
 an IPv6 address to each end, verify reachability, and temporarily remove
 all v4 addresses and still maintain a connection until the work is
 complete :)

Haha, cool approach.

(But given that this is Cisco and ATM, chances are that IPv6 will not
work in this specific combination of IOS + ATM setup + ATM hardware...)

gert

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Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

2010-02-17 Thread Paul Stewart
Test this ahead of time with a lab box if you can ;)

What I've done in this scenarios is to build the snippets of config I need
to apply and put them into a plain text file.  Then do a copy
tftp://blahblah/filename running-config which merges the changes.  Before I
do the copy I do a reload in 15 in case it fails so that I know I can get
back into the box in 15 minutes YMMV...

Please test this though as I haven't done it in a while but did work for my
needs at the time...

Paul


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Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:20 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

I have a bunch of T-1 (ATM) interfaces that I need to renumber. I have
always done this with 2 people, one on each end. Is it possible for one
person to do this, from one end ?
If I am on the near side, I log into the far sides serial IP and do this:

LALMR_2620(config)#interface ATM0/0.32 point-to-point
LALMR_2620(config-subif)#ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
LALMR_2620(config-subif)#^Z


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Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

2010-02-17 Thread Ryan Lambert
You can renumber serial links with one person. Standard disclaimer of paying
attention to detail, being careful, etc.

If you can tolerate a few minutes downtime worst-case (which, I'm making the
assumption this is being done in a window that can), you can also use the
'reload in x' command, where x = minutes. If you botch it and cannot get
back in, the device will reload with the saved startup configuration (ie:
not with your most current changes). You can roll back the near side and be
back up. If all changes are successful, don't forget to reload cancel and
write your changes.

Obviously there are some other things you probably need to consider like
routing protocol adjacencies, or static default routes... so telnet/ssh'ing
in from a directly connected interface may be necessary depending on the
setup.

The only time something like this is a bit more tricky is when multiple
changes are required (encapsulation, etc.)


HTH,
-Ryan
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:19 PM, james edwards 
lists.james.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a bunch of T-1 (ATM) interfaces that I need to renumber. I have
 always done this with 2 people, one on each end. Is it possible for one
 person to do this, from one end ?
 If I am on the near side, I log into the far sides serial IP and do this:

 LALMR_2620(config)#interface ATM0/0.32 point-to-point
 LALMR_2620(config-subif)#ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
 LALMR_2620(config-subif)#^Z


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Re: [c-nsp] Renumbering serial interfaces

2010-02-17 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:19:31AM -0700, james edwards wrote:
 I have a bunch of T-1 (ATM) interfaces that I need to renumber. I have
 always done this with 2 people, one on each end. Is it possible for one
 person to do this, from one end ?
 If I am on the near side, I log into the far sides serial IP and do this:
 
 LALMR_2620(config)#interface ATM0/0.32 point-to-point
 LALMR_2620(config-subif)#ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
 LALMR_2620(config-subif)#^Z

Should work.  (At that point, the connection will lock up, and then you
need to connect to the new address and continue)

Always remember to put in reload in 5 before you do anything that might
lock you out, and reload cancel afterwards...

gert
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