Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUCM with skype for business integration

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

I was at Live this year, and this question was asked, both during the session 
and the Spark room. 

Unless I misunderstood the multiple times it was answered, Skype for business 
online, which they said is basically office 365, is not supported. No 
integration options. 

It would be interesting to hear alternatives. 

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> On Oct 2, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Claiton Campos  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> Has anyone realized the integration between Cisco CUCM 10.5 with skype for 
> business online?
> If you can help me with some information or documentation i appreciate.
> 
> Best regards,
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[cisco-voip] Cisco CUCM with skype for business integration

[Claiton Campos]

Hi guys,
Has anyone realized the integration between Cisco CUCM 10.5 with skype for
business online?
If you can help me with some information or documentation i appreciate.

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Re: [cisco-voip] Future of Jabber .......

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

I've seen only one update in the forums, and while it's a good start, there's 
still some outstanding issues people have concerns with.

But you're right, looks like a call to our account team is in order. But that 
looks like it's going to have to come from someone who has a locking office 
;)



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On Oct 2, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Joshua Warcop 
mailto:j...@warcop.com>> wrote:

Since this session the community, clients and partners have been voicing major 
concerns. The Customer Connection Program has updates on these topics. In other 
words, enough of us complained that they've recommitted things to Jabber. It's 
long from over for Jabber.

We don't need to be putting Jabber out to pasture. Raise concerns with the 
community and with your account team. This week has been proof customers voices 
do matter.


 On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 10:28:44 -0400 Lelio 
Fulgenzimailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote 


I finally had the cycles to watch the briefing. For those of you with (or 
considering) Jabber deployments, I strongly suggest watching it if you can.




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On Sep 15, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Joshua Warcop 
mailto:j...@warcop.com>> wrote:

I'll come out of lurker status for this one. Jabber isn't going away, but there 
is messaging from Cisco that their strategic direction is Spark. They have had 
this messaging for a while now, but Spark was, to my knowledge, not supposed to 
be a replacement for Jabber.

Strategic direction is also known as - shifting financial and personnel 
resources to Spark. CUCM development resources are also getting moved towards 
Spark.

I'm obviously not speaking authoritatively on any of this, but the marketing 
and messaging that's public should help connect the dots.



 On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:13:31 -0400 Anthony 
Hollowaymailto:avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com>>
 wrote 

Not me.  What did your co-worker tell you that prompted you to post this?  
Something juicy I bet.  Like: IM&P goes away, and all functions related to 
Jabber are native in CUCM now.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Scott Voll 
mailto:svoll.v...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My co worker was on a Jabber update webex this morning.  Anyone else on it?

Scott



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Re: [cisco-voip] Future of Jabber .......

[Ryan Huff]

That said, there will be significant changes to the way the jabber for iPhone 
client operates with iOS 10 next year. I suggest all who are able, to watch the 
briefing if they have not already.

-Ryan

On Oct 2, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Joshua Warcop 
mailto:j...@warcop.com>> wrote:

Since this session the community, clients and partners have been voicing major 
concerns. The Customer Connection Program has updates on these topics. In other 
words, enough of us complained that they've recommitted things to Jabber. It's 
long from over for Jabber.

We don't need to be putting Jabber out to pasture. Raise concerns with the 
community and with your account team. This week has been proof customers voices 
do matter.


 On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 10:28:44 -0400 Lelio 
Fulgenzimailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote 


I finally had the cycles to watch the briefing. For those of you with (or 
considering) Jabber deployments, I strongly suggest watching it if you can.




Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Joshua Warcop 
mailto:j...@warcop.com>> wrote:

I'll come out of lurker status for this one. Jabber isn't going away, but there 
is messaging from Cisco that their strategic direction is Spark. They have had 
this messaging for a while now, but Spark was, to my knowledge, not supposed to 
be a replacement for Jabber.

Strategic direction is also known as - shifting financial and personnel 
resources to Spark. CUCM development resources are also getting moved towards 
Spark.

I'm obviously not speaking authoritatively on any of this, but the marketing 
and messaging that's public should help connect the dots.



 On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:13:31 -0400 Anthony 
Hollowaymailto:avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com>>
 wrote 

Not me.  What did your co-worker tell you that prompted you to post this?  
Something juicy I bet.  Like: IM&P goes away, and all functions related to 
Jabber are native in CUCM now.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Scott Voll 
mailto:svoll.v...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My co worker was on a Jabber update webex this morning.  Anyone else on it?

Scott



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Re: [cisco-voip] Future of Jabber .......

[Joshua Warcop]

Since this session the community, clients and partners have been 
voicing major concerns. The Customer Connection Program has updates on these 
topics. In other words, enough of us complained that they've recommitted things 
to Jabber. It's long from over for Jabber. We don't need to be putting Jabber 
out to pasture. Raise concerns with the community and with your account team. 
This week has been proof customers voices do matter.  On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 
10:28:44 -0400  Lelio Fulgenzi wrote  I finally had 
the cycles to watch the briefing. For those of you with (or considering) Jabber 
deployments, I strongly suggest watching it if you can.  Sent from my 
iPhone  On Sep 15, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Joshua Warcop  wrote: 
 I'll come out of lurker status for this one. Jabber isn't going away, but 
there is messaging from Cisco that their strategic direction is Spark. They 
have had this messaging for a while now, but Spark was, to my knowledge, not 
supposed to  be a replacement for Jabber.    Strategic direction is also known 
as - shifting financial and personnel resources to Spark. CUCM development 
resources are also getting moved towards Spark.    I'm obviously not speaking 
authoritatively on any of this, but the marketing and messaging that's public 
should help connect the dots.     On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:13:31 -0400 
Anthony Holloway wrote  Not me.  What 
did your co-worker tell you that prompted you to post this?  Something juicy I 
bet.  Like: IM&P goes away, and all functions related to Jabber are native in 
CUCM now.  On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Scott Voll  
wrote:  My co worker was on a Jabber update webex this morning.  Anyone else on 
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Re: [cisco-voip] Future of Jabber .......

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

I finally had the cycles to watch the briefing. For those of you with (or 
considering) Jabber deployments, I strongly suggest watching it if you can.




Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Joshua Warcop 
mailto:j...@warcop.com>> wrote:

I'll come out of lurker status for this one. Jabber isn't going away, but there 
is messaging from Cisco that their strategic direction is Spark. They have had 
this messaging for a while now, but Spark was, to my knowledge, not supposed to 
be a replacement for Jabber.

Strategic direction is also known as - shifting financial and personnel 
resources to Spark. CUCM development resources are also getting moved towards 
Spark.

I'm obviously not speaking authoritatively on any of this, but the marketing 
and messaging that's public should help connect the dots.



 On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:13:31 -0400 Anthony 
Hollowaymailto:avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com>>
 wrote 

Not me.  What did your co-worker tell you that prompted you to post this?  
Something juicy I bet.  Like: IM&P goes away, and all functions related to 
Jabber are native in CUCM now.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Scott Voll 
mailto:svoll.v...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My co worker was on a Jabber update webex this morning.  Anyone else on it?

Scott



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Re: [cisco-voip] R: Jabber Mobile 11.7 don't Store SSo User Credential

[Ankur Srivastava via cisco-voip]

You can increase the timer to a really long duration or turn it off
globally in cucm. There is no third choice.

On Oct 2, 2016 13:09, "Alessandro Bertacco" 
wrote:

> Thank you Ankur,
>
>so the only way to make Jabber mobile usable is to disable SSO?
>
>
>
> Is it possible to disable SSO only for the Jabber Client? Or I’ll need to
> disable SSO globally?
>
>
>
> Thank you again.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Alessandro
>
>
>
>
>
> *Da:* Ankur Srivastava [mailto:ansrivast...@linkedin.com]
> *Inviato:* domenica 2 ottobre 2016 05:54
> *A:* Alessandro Bertacco 
> *Cc:* voip puck 
> *Oggetto:* Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber Mobile 11.7 don't Store SSo User
> Credential
>
>
>
> Also you can't save any credentials because Jabber is not prompting for
> login it's the ADFS which prompts for it. Jabber just opens a web-wrapper
> and loads a http link for ADFS.
>
> So there is no way for the Jabber client to know what credentials you
> entered in that pop-up.
>
> Regards,
> Ankur
>
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2016 09:19, "Ankur Srivastava" 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Alessandro,
>
> When you enable SSO then CUCM does not control the authentication process
> and at every login Expressway or CUCM will reach out to ADFS to confirm if
> the user is authorised or not.
>
> ADFS verifies the last SSO cookie to confirm whether it should allow the
> request or prompt for login. CUCM or Expressway can't control this behavior.
>
> So your users are being prompted for login because the SSO cookies expire
> and ADFS requests re-Authentication. You do not have any way to work around
> this. This is how SSO works.
>
> If you want less prompts you can increase the SSO timers on ADFS to not to
> expire for 2-3 days, but that will affect all SSO requests not just UC.
>
> Regards,
> Ankur
>
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2016 02:37, "Alessandro Bertacco" 
> wrote:
>
> We have UC environment all in version 11.0 (CUCM, CUPS, CUC), and we use
> Jabber 11.7 on all platform, Windows, MAC, IOS and Android
>
>
>
> SSO authentication enabled using Microsoft ADFS 2.0 as IDP.
>
>
>
> SSO  works fine from all devices, and on Windows Domain computer SSO User
> Credential are pushed directly from the Operating System to the SSO
> Infrastructure, so user need only to open Jabber Client and do nothing to
> login.
>
>
>
> Instead, from Jabber for mobile device, SSO authentication Works, inside
> and outside troughs Expressway C/E infrastructure but Users credential
> aren’t stored on mobile devices.
>
>
>
> So, every day, when user start up their Smartphone, Jabber presents SSo
> IDp popup that ask Users to authenticate. You understand that this make
> UnUsable Jabber Mobile, because users don’t want to be bored for
> Credentials every day.
>
>
>
> I’ve also opened a TAC but Engineer don’t find the route cause.
>
>
>
> Someone of you have a working implementations of SSO Authentication
> Infrastructure with Jabber Mobile clients that store users credential and
> pass it automatically to IDP during the Jabber Login ?
>
>
>
> Can you help me or suggest something?
>
>
>
> This is make me crazy, and customer wants to rollback to SSO disabled. Is
> that the final solution?
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Alessandro
>
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[cisco-voip] R: Jabber Mobile 11.7 don't Store SSo User Credential

[Alessandro Bertacco]

Thank you Ankur,

   so the only way to make Jabber mobile usable is to disable SSO?

 

Is it possible to disable SSO only for the Jabber Client? Or I’ll need to 
disable SSO globally?

 

Thank you again.

 

Regards

 

Alessandro

 

 

Da: Ankur Srivastava [mailto:ansrivast...@linkedin.com] 
Inviato: domenica 2 ottobre 2016 05:54
A: Alessandro Bertacco 
Cc: voip puck 
Oggetto: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber Mobile 11.7 don't Store SSo User Credential

 

Also you can't save any credentials because Jabber is not prompting for login 
it's the ADFS which prompts for it. Jabber just opens a web-wrapper and loads a 
http link for ADFS. 

So there is no way for the Jabber client to know what credentials you entered 
in that pop-up. 

Regards,
Ankur

 

On Oct 2, 2016 09:19, "Ankur Srivastava" mailto:ansrivast...@linkedin.com> > wrote:

Hi Alessandro,

When you enable SSO then CUCM does not control the authentication process and 
at every login Expressway or CUCM will reach out to ADFS to confirm if the user 
is authorised or not. 

ADFS verifies the last SSO cookie to confirm whether it should allow the 
request or prompt for login. CUCM or Expressway can't control this behavior.

So your users are being prompted for login because the SSO cookies expire and 
ADFS requests re-Authentication. You do not have any way to work around this. 
This is how SSO works. 

If you want less prompts you can increase the SSO timers on ADFS to not to 
expire for 2-3 days, but that will affect all SSO requests not just UC.

Regards, 
Ankur

 

On Oct 2, 2016 02:37, "Alessandro Bertacco" mailto:bertacco.alessan...@alice.it> > wrote:

We have UC environment all in version 11.0 (CUCM, CUPS, CUC), and we use Jabber 
11.7 on all platform, Windows, MAC, IOS and Android 

 

SSO authentication enabled using Microsoft ADFS 2.0 as IDP.

 

SSO  works fine from all devices, and on Windows Domain computer SSO User 
Credential are pushed directly from the Operating System to the SSO 
Infrastructure, so user need only to open Jabber Client and do nothing to login.

 

Instead, from Jabber for mobile device, SSO authentication Works, inside and 
outside troughs Expressway C/E infrastructure but Users credential aren’t 
stored on mobile devices.

 

So, every day, when user start up their Smartphone, Jabber presents SSo IDp 
popup that ask Users to authenticate. You understand that this make UnUsable 
Jabber Mobile, because users don’t want to be bored for Credentials every day.

 

I’ve also opened a TAC but Engineer don’t find the route cause.

 

Someone of you have a working implementations of SSO Authentication 
Infrastructure with Jabber Mobile clients that store users credential and pass 
it automatically to IDP during the Jabber Login ?

 

Can you help me or suggest something?

 

This is make me crazy, and customer wants to rollback to SSO disabled. Is that 
the final solution?

 

Thank you.

 

Regards

 

Alessandro 


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