Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
I read training materials come out in April of this year. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:35 AM, zoltan.kele...@emerson.com wrote: They are just retiring, not actually **invalidating** CCNP Voice, right? I mean all of our CCNP Voice certificates won’t go up in a puff of smoke once CCNP Collab comes out. Only that no new CCNP Voice certs would be awarded after a yet to be announced date (or has it been announced already? Anyway) Since I’ve just got mine, I don’t think I’ll be in any rush to update to Collaboration, especially not until at least some valuable training materials are out . From my experience, I wouldn’t rely on classroom training alone. So far none of the “official cisco training classes” I’ve attended covered **all** of the exam material. And there’s barely a synopsis for CIPTV2 out so far. Cheers, *Zoltan Kelemen* Global Communications and Information Security Implementation Engineering Emerson *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Huff *Sent:* 17 February 2015 19:58 *To:* Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith *Cc:* voip puck *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration ( http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html). Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration? If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video. This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that. My grumpy two cents, Ryan -- Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600 From: ben.st...@gmail.com To: wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab? -- Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.com ben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80 http://showbrain.blogspot.com http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip -- Greg Wenzel, CCNP Voice ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
They are just retiring, not actually *invalidating* CCNP Voice, right? I mean all of our CCNP Voice certificates won't go up in a puff of smoke once CCNP Collab comes out. Only that no new CCNP Voice certs would be awarded after a yet to be announced date (or has it been announced already? Anyway) Since I've just got mine, I don't think I'll be in any rush to update to Collaboration, especially not until at least some valuable training materials are out . From my experience, I wouldn't rely on classroom training alone. So far none of the official cisco training classes I've attended covered *all* of the exam material. And there's barely a synopsis for CIPTV2 out so far. Cheers, Zoltan Kelemen Global Communications and Information Security Implementation Engineering Emerson From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Huff Sent: 17 February 2015 19:58 To: Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith Cc: voip puck Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html). Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration? If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video. This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that. My grumpy two cents, Ryan Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600 From: ben.st...@gmail.commailto:ben.st...@gmail.com To: wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab? -- Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.commailto:ben.st...@gmail.com mailto:ben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80 http://showbrain.blogspot.com http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.comhttp://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com/ From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
Generally when Cisco does this, the previous credential is retired and you cannot get new certs in the previous credential after the retire date, only the new credential can be attained at that point. For those with a valid previous credential, they remain valid so long as the practitioner keeps up with a valid recertification process (via other tests). If the recertification period lapses, then the previous credential expires and is not recoverable and the practitioner would have to undergo the new credential certification process (in completeness). Often, you'll see practitioners keep the previous credential through recertification and attain the new credential, to have dual of something. You can also take a (usually smaller) migration path and just upgrade the credential you have into the new credential. Thanks, Ryan Original Message From: zoltan.kele...@emerson.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 03:35 AM To: ryanh...@outlook.com,ben.st...@gmail.com,wo...@justfamily.org Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net They are just retiring, not actually *invalidating* CCNP Voice, right? I mean all of our CCNP Voice certificates won't go up in a puff of smoke once CCNP Collab comes out. Only that no new CCNP Voice certs would be awarded after a yet to be announced date (or has it been announced already? Anyway) Since I've just got mine, I don't think I'll be in any rush to update to Collaboration, especially not until at least some valuable training materials are out . From my experience, I wouldn't rely on classroom training alone. So far none of the official cisco training classes I've attended covered *all* of the exam material. And there's barely a synopsis for CIPTV2 out so far. Cheers, Zoltan Kelemen Global Communications and Information Security Implementation Engineering Emerson From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Huff Sent: 17 February 2015 19:58 To: Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith Cc: voip puck Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html). Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration? If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video. This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that. My grumpy two cents, Ryan Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600 From: ben.st...@gmail.commailto:ben.st...@gmail.com To: wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab? -- Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.commailto:ben.st...@gmail.com mailto:ben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80 http://showbrain.blogspot.com http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.comhttp://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com/ From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab? -- Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.com ben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80 http://showbrain.blogspot.com http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
This year will mark 10 years hold the CCVP/CCNP Voice for me, and mine expires Fall of this year. When I took all the exams there was still a gateway/gatekeeper exam. In my case basically I need to pass all the exams or achieve a CCIE Collaboration certification before my CCNP Voice expires. My approach is this: 1. Renew CCNP Voice by taking any of the existing CCNP Voice exams. a. Keeps is active and alive and give me time to get motivated for more certs b. If I have time work through the other exams in this order before Q4. i. TVOICE (642-427) ii. CAPPS (642-467) 2. Pass CIPTV2 sometime over the next couple years to get CCNP Collaboration. I cannot say all of this really excites me. Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration) World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814 [twitter]https://twitter.com/CollabSensei [chat]xmpp:dennis.h...@wwt.com[Phone]tel:+13142121814[video]sip:dennis.h...@wwt.com Innovation happens on project squared -- http://www.projectsquared.comhttp://www.projectsquared.com/ Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting Roomhttps://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ben Story Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 1:10 PM To: Ryan Huff Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Better than how they handled CCSP to CCNP Security and required a complete redo. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Ryan Huff ryanh...@outlook.commailto:ryanh...@outlook.com wrote: What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html). Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration? If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video. This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that. My grumpy two cents, Ryan Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600 From: ben.st...@gmail.commailto:ben.st...@gmail.com To: wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab? -- Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.commailto:ben.st...@gmail.com mailto:ben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80 http://showbrain.blogspot.com http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.comhttp://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com/ From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
Dennis, The conversion tool shows that CIPTV2 is the only test that CCNP Voice needs to convert to CCNP Collaboration. This is really new info though so it could change. As of this writing the CCNP Voice retirement date is listed as Q4 2015 and PearsonVue doesn't even have 300-075 (CIPTV2) listed as a schedue-lable test yet. From what I understand, the CIPTV2 test covers video related material. Given that the CCIE Collaboration is based on the 9.x stack I assume the topics will cover things like Collaboration Edge, Jabber Video, Telepresence ... etc Thanks, Ryan From: dennis.h...@wwt.com To: ryanh...@outlook.com; ben.st...@gmail.com; wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:50:05 + What exam is required to convert CCNP voice to CCNP collaboration? Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration) World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814 Innovation happens on project squared -- http://www.projectsquared.com Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting Room From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Huff Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:58 AM To: Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith Cc: voip puck Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html). Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration? If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video. This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that. My grumpy two cents, Ryan Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600 From: ben.st...@gmail.com To: wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab? -- Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80 http://showbrain.blogspot.com http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
FWIW the way I am reading that is it's only if your CCNP V is recent. If you have an older one like me... well whatever year they make this a requirement for partner stuff is going to suck. Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-V, CCNA-RS, CCDA Network Engineer We understand and solve your technology challenges so you can sell and service cars. Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/heliontech?ref=hl | Twitterhttps://twitter.com/HelionTech | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/helion-technologies?trk=top_nav_home | G+https://plus.google.com/+Heliontechnologies/posts From: cisco-voip [cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] on behalf of Ryan Huff [ryanh...@outlook.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:57 PM To: Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith Cc: voip puck Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html). Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration? If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video. This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that. My grumpy two cents, Ryan Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600 From: ben.st...@gmail.com To: wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab? -- Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.commailto:ben.st...@gmail.com mailto:ben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80 http://showbrain.blogspot.com http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.comhttp://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com/ From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
At the bottom of that page, there is a link to the conversion information. It depends on what tests you took for the CCNP (meaning, how old your tests are). On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Heim, Dennis dennis.h...@wwt.com wrote: What exam is required to convert CCNP voice to CCNP collaboration? *Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)* World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814 [image: twitter] https://twitter.com/CollabSensei [image: chat][image: Phone] +13142121814[image: video] Innovation happens on project squared -- http://www.projectsquared.com *Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting Room https://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim* *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Huff *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:58 AM *To:* Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith *Cc:* voip puck *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration ( http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html). Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration? If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video. This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that. My grumpy two cents, Ryan -- Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600 From: ben.st...@gmail.com To: wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab? -- Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.com ben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80 http://showbrain.blogspot.com http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html). Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration? If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video. This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that. My grumpy two cents, Ryan Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600 From: ben.st...@gmail.com To: wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab?--Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, ccdaben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80http://showbrain.blogspot.comhttp://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
What exam is required to convert CCNP voice to CCNP collaboration? Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration) World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814 [twitter]https://twitter.com/CollabSensei [chat]xmpp:dennis.h...@wwt.com[Phone]tel:+13142121814[video]sip:dennis.h...@wwt.com Innovation happens on project squared -- http://www.projectsquared.comhttp://www.projectsquared.com/ Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting Roomhttps://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Huff Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:58 AM To: Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith Cc: voip puck Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html). Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration? If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video. This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that. My grumpy two cents, Ryan Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600 From: ben.st...@gmail.commailto:ben.st...@gmail.com To: wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab? -- Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.commailto:ben.st...@gmail.com mailto:ben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80 http://showbrain.blogspot.com http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.comhttp://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com/ From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgmailto:wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
Better than how they handled CCSP to CCNP Security and required a complete redo. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Ryan Huff ryanh...@outlook.com wrote: What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html). Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration? If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video. This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that. My grumpy two cents, Ryan Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600 From: ben.st...@gmail.com To: wo...@justfamily.org CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests. Money grab? -- Ben Story CCNP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.com @ntwrk80 http://showbrain.blogspot.com http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!. -- St. Teresa of Avila On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
