Re: [Clamav-users] New db container

2003-10-06 Thread Lionel Bouton
Tomasz Kojm said the following on 10/06/2003 09:32 AM:

What about climb down from trees and take some more modern
protocol like rsync? ;-)
   

Rsync is not as popular as http ;) I don't see problem here because usually the
updates are very small (the main database is updated ocasionally.
Best regards,
Tomasz Kojm
 

The popularity doesn't really matter on the client side, rsync is 
readily available for all Unices and quite easy to get for Cygwin.
The problem is that on the servers' side (main site and mirrors) you'll 
have to set up rsync servers instead of http servers. As a mirror admin 
this won't be good news for me...

RSA signature support is a great thing. Now to somehow protect our 
clamav installations from unwanted changes we use a script which is 
diffing the sorted db files (it allows a configurable max number of 
added and removed sigs for each update and manually apply changes after 
review when the update doesn't fit these rules). This is far from 
perfect and RSA sigs will bring more confidence in the update process.

Could you describe the cwd file more in depth Tomasz ? I'd like to be 
able to fetch the raw sigs in a set of files in order to :
- tell us at which point in time our clamav install got a given sig,
- be mailed for each update with the list of changes the update process 
we set up did.

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Re: [Clamav-users] New db container

2003-10-06 Thread Tomasz Kojm
 Could you describe the cwd file more in depth Tomasz ? I'd like to be 

Documentation and support in clamav (CVS) will be available tomorrow.

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Re: [Clamav-users] New db container

2003-10-06 Thread Kritof Petr
Lionel Bouton wrote:

The popularity doesn't really matter on the client side, rsync is 
readily available for all Unices and quite easy to get for Cygwin.
The problem is that on the servers' side (main site and mirrors) 
you'll have to set up rsync servers instead of http servers. As a 
mirror admin this won't be good news for me...

rsync server setup isnt hard. Simple example looks like:

# rsync server config
#
use chroot = no
max connections = 50
syslog facility = daemon
log file = /var/log/rsyncd/rsyncd.log
read only = yes
uid = nobody
gid = nobody
[clamav]
 path = /var/rsync/clamav
 comment = Clam AV for Linux
#


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Re: [Clamav-users] New db container

2003-10-06 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 07:42, Kritof Petr wrote:
 Lionel Bouton wrote:
 
 
  The problem is that on the servers' side (main site and mirrors) 
  you'll have to set up rsync servers instead of http servers. As a 
  mirror admin this won't be good news for me...
 
 rsync server setup isnt hard. Simple example looks like:
 
 # rsync server config
 #
 use chroot = no
[...]

But this is only the beginning.  You also have to set up new firewall
rules - probably on the box itself and on the front-end firewall
protecting the box.  And you might have to add load-balancer rules.  And
if you have virtual domains set up, it can become even more complex.

Then, the clients have to open their firewalls for yet another port
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Re: [Clamav-users] New db container

2003-10-06 Thread Kritof Petr
Daniel J McDonald wrote:

On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 07:42, Kritof Petr wrote:
 

Lionel Bouton wrote:

   

The problem is that on the servers' side (main site and mirrors) 
you'll have to set up rsync servers instead of http servers. As a 
mirror admin this won't be good news for me...

 

rsync server setup isnt hard. Simple example looks like:

# rsync server config
#
use chroot = no
   

[...]

But this is only the beginning.  You also have to set up new firewall
rules - probably on the box itself and on the front-end firewall
protecting the box.  And you might have to add load-balancer rules.  And
if you have virtual domains set up, it can become even more complex.
Then, the clients have to open their firewalls for yet another port
 

rsync server can run on port 80. Clients can use standard http proxy, so 
you need no additional setting.

Petr



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Re: [Clamav-users] New db container

2003-10-06 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 09:00, Kritof Petr wrote:
 Daniel J McDonald wrote:
 
 But this is only the beginning.  You also have to set up new firewall
 rules - probably on the box itself and on the front-end firewall
 protecting the box.  And you might have to add load-balancer rules.  And
 if you have virtual domains set up, it can become even more complex.
 
 Then, the clients have to open their firewalls for yet another port

 rsync server can run on port 80. Clients can use standard http proxy, so 
 you need no additional setting.

Ok, so you already have apache bound to port 80.  How do you bind the
rsync server to port 80 as well?

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Re: [Clamav-users] New db container

2003-10-06 Thread Miguel Bettencourt Dias (Netopia)
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 15:00, Kritof Petr wrote:
 Daniel J McDonald wrote:
 
 On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 07:42, Kritof Petr wrote:
   
 
 Lionel Bouton wrote:
 
 
 
 The problem is that on the servers' side (main site and mirrors) 
 you'll have to set up rsync servers instead of http servers. As a 
 mirror admin this won't be good news for me...
 
   
 
 rsync server setup isnt hard. Simple example looks like:
 
 # rsync server config
 #
 use chroot = no
 
 
 [...]
 
 But this is only the beginning.  You also have to set up new firewall
 rules - probably on the box itself and on the front-end firewall
 protecting the box.  And you might have to add load-balancer rules.  And
 if you have virtual domains set up, it can become even more complex.
 
 Then, the clients have to open their firewalls for yet another port
   
 
 
 rsync server can run on port 80. Clients can use standard http proxy, so 
 you need no additional setting.
 
 Petr

Does rsync support http redirect codes ? If there are several servers
and I want to redirect requests to the nearest or least used server.
 
Yes rsync is great for many things, but it's not a miracle cure for
every IT problem. In theory, one could extend freshclam to support rsync
as a transfer method for updates, but a separate mirror system would
have to be set up. Some mirrors could provide both update methods, some
just one... but is the extra trouble worth it ? 

I've worked for companies where setting up a new http virtual servers is
easy, but getting management to approve installing a new service like
rsync takes more time.


Regards,

Miguel Dias


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RE: [Clamav-users] New db container

2003-10-06 Thread Shayne Lebrun

Ok, so you already have apache bound to port 80.  How do you bind the
rsync server to port 80 as well?

As a client, you're not running an rsync server, you're running an rsync
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