Re: [Clamav-users] Web Site Authentication Prior to VirusDB download

2006-02-03 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 at 21:31:45 -0800, Jeremy Kitchen wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The company I work for has implemented a firewall that only allows certain 
  activity through it.  I have requested that the user agent string 
  clamav/* be allowed to communicate with the internet.
 
 sorry, but blocking at the firewall/proxy level based on user-agent is
 one of the most absurd things I've ever heard.  If they are doing it to
 disallow 'viruses' and whatnot from traversing the firewall, well, the
 virus writer can TRIVIALLY change the user-agent string to.. say.. IE,
 and get right through.  In fact, since clamav provides the source for
 you, you should be able to TRIVIALLY change the user-agent string.
 
 grep, $EDITOR, and an exercise for the reader.  Problem solved.
 
 -Jeremy

In devel version's ChangeLog there is:

Fri Jan 27 16:01:31 CET 2006 (tk)
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  * freshclam: new option HTTPUserAgent to force different User-Agent header
   Patch by Andy Fiddaman clam*fiddaman.net

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[Clamav-users] Web Site Authentication Prior to VirusDB download

2006-02-02 Thread Robert . Setterlund
The company I work for has implemented a firewall that only allows certain 
activity through it.  I have requested that the user agent string 
clamav/* be allowed to communicate with the internet.  The request has 
been refused because of security concerns.  The approving authority is 
concerned that there does not appear to be any way of verifying that the 
web site the database is being downloaded from is the official site.  The 
authority would like to see either a way of supplying a user id and 
password for authentication to the site or an exchange of SSLv2 keys. With 
the current clamav software is authentication possible?

Robert D. Setterlund
Federal Reserve Bank of Boston
600 Atlantic Ave., Boston, MA, 02106
(617) 973-3374
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Clamav-users] Web Site Authentication Prior to VirusDB download

2006-02-02 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The company I work for has implemented a firewall that only allows certain 
 activity through it.  I have requested that the user agent string 
 clamav/* be allowed to communicate with the internet.  The request has 
 been refused because of security concerns.  The approving authority is 
 concerned that there does not appear to be any way of verifying that the 
 web site the database is being downloaded from is the official site.  The 

The virus db file is signed, that is how it maintains integrity. 

The official sites could be compromised, using that as your check is someone 
of false security. However there is no 'official' site, there is an every 
growing and changing system of mirrors.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Web Site Authentication Prior to VirusDB download

2006-02-02 Thread Andy Fiddaman
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

; The company I work for has implemented a firewall that only allows certain
; activity through it.  I have requested that the user agent string
; clamav/* be allowed to communicate with the internet.  The request has
; been refused because of security concerns.  The approving authority is
; concerned that there does not appear to be any way of verifying that the
; web site the database is being downloaded from is the official site.  The
; authority would like to see either a way of supplying a user id and
; password for authentication to the site or an exchange of SSLv2 keys. With
; the current clamav software is authentication possible?

There is a new option in the CVS version which allows you to change the
user agent string to something already allowed by the filters.. not
necessarily the way to solve it but it would work!

A.
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Re: [Clamav-users] Web Site Authentication Prior to VirusDB download

2006-02-02 Thread Jason Haar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The company I work for has implemented a firewall that only allows certain 
 activity through it.  I have requested that the user agent string 
 clamav/* be allowed to communicate with the internet.  The request has 
 been refused because of security concerns.  The approving authority is 
 concerned that there does not appear to be any way of verifying that the 
 web site the database is being downloaded from is the official site.  The 
 authority would like to see either a way of supplying a user id and 
 password for authentication to the site or an exchange of SSLv2 keys. With 
 the current clamav software is authentication possible?
   
Someone doesn't want you to succeed I'm afraid.

We run similar rules in our DMZes - and I can tell you that most
commercial AVs *also* don't run from specific sites. The AVs we use (I
won't name names) also load-share their pattern downloads - and most of
the sites the files can end up coming down from don't even have PTR
records, or at best don't match back to the domains owned by the AV
companies! (i.e. they outsource to content carriers like Akami)

I can't see how your approving authority has managed to allow other AV
products while applying such  harsh rules to your ClamAV proposal...

Of course, I'd be quite willing to set up a permanent site that you can
have HTTPS pattern access to for a really big fee!! ;-)

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Jason Haar
Information Security Manager, Trimble Navigation Ltd.
Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417
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Re: [Clamav-users] Web Site Authentication Prior to VirusDB download

2006-02-02 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The company I work for has implemented a firewall that only allows certain 
 activity through it.  I have requested that the user agent string 
 clamav/* be allowed to communicate with the internet.

sorry, but blocking at the firewall/proxy level based on user-agent is
one of the most absurd things I've ever heard.  If they are doing it to
disallow 'viruses' and whatnot from traversing the firewall, well, the
virus writer can TRIVIALLY change the user-agent string to.. say.. IE,
and get right through.  In fact, since clamav provides the source for
you, you should be able to TRIVIALLY change the user-agent string.

grep, $EDITOR, and an exercise for the reader.  Problem solved.

-Jeremy


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