Optimize .addComponent?

2011-06-23 Thread Antonio Recio
I would like to use only one time .addComponent and don't repeat it each 
time that I need to add something. How I can do it? Perhaps with doto? Are 
there other way? It is possible to optimize it more?

(defn -init [this]
  (let [app this]
(.setMainWindow this
  (doto (Window. Test application)
(.addComponent (Label. Hello!))
(.addComponent (Button. button))

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Re: Optimize .addComponent?

2011-06-23 Thread Laurent PETIT
If your code does not grow beyond what you show us, it seems like a
good compromise.

If you want to be more DRY, here's my take:

(defn add-components! [composite components]
  (doseq [component components] (.addComponent composite component)))

(defn -init [this]
  (let [app this]
(.setMainWindow this
  (doto (Window. Test application)
(add-components! (Label. Hello!) (Button. button))

2011/6/23 Antonio Recio amdx6...@gmail.com:
 I would like to use only one time .addComponent and don't repeat it each
 time that I need to add something. How I can do it? Perhaps with doto? Are
 there other way? It is possible to optimize it more?
 (defn -init [this]
   (let [app this]
     (.setMainWindow this
       (doto (Window. Test application)
         (.addComponent (Label. Hello!))
         (.addComponent (Button. button))

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Re: Optimize .addComponent?

2011-06-23 Thread Antonio Recio
I obtain an error:

javax.servlet.ServletException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Wrong 
number of args (3) passed to: vapp$add-components-BANG-

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Wrong number of args (3) passed to: 
vapp$add-components-BANG-

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Re: Optimize .addComponent?

2011-06-23 Thread Laurent PETIT
oops, def of add-components should read (defn add-components!
[composite  components] of course ...

2011/6/23 Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com:
 If your code does not grow beyond what you show us, it seems like a
 good compromise.

 If you want to be more DRY, here's my take:

 (defn add-components! [composite components]
  (doseq [component components] (.addComponent composite component)))

 (defn -init [this]
  (let [app this]
    (.setMainWindow this
      (doto (Window. Test application)
        (add-components! (Label. Hello!) (Button. button))

 2011/6/23 Antonio Recio amdx6...@gmail.com:
 I would like to use only one time .addComponent and don't repeat it each
 time that I need to add something. How I can do it? Perhaps with doto? Are
 there other way? It is possible to optimize it more?
 (defn -init [this]
   (let [app this]
     (.setMainWindow this
       (doto (Window. Test application)
         (.addComponent (Label. Hello!))
         (.addComponent (Button. button))

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Re: Screencast: Clojure + Emacs + slime + swank + cake + Overtone

2011-06-23 Thread lambdatronic
Lee,

  You're just making a simple typo.  To get the REPL to switch to the
source file's namespace, you have several options:

  1) With the point in the source file, press C-c M-p ENTER

  2) With the point in the REPL, type ,in ENTER overtoneproject.core
ENTER

  3) With the point in the REPL, type (in-ns 'overtoneproject.core)

  Your mistake was to not quote overtoneproject.core, which made the
clojure compiler look up the value of the symbol as a Java class
(which it isn't unless you added a :gen-class to the ns form).  By
quoting it, in-ns gets the symbol overtoneproject.core, which is what
it uses to look up namespaces:

  clojure.core/in-ns
  ([name])
Sets *ns* to the namespace named by the symbol, creating it if
needed.

  Happy hacking,
~Gary

On Jun 21, 11:09 pm, Lee Spector lspec...@hampshire.edu wrote:
 On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Sam Aaron wrote:

  I just finished making a screencast primarily for new Overtone users on how 
  to get set up with Emacs as a primary editor:

 http://vimeo.com/25190186

  It turns out that this should be pretty useful for Clojure hackers in 
  general as it's really a screencast on how to set up a Clojure environment 
  using Emacs slime, swank and cake. Just s/Overtone/your-project/

  Of course, it's also great if you're interested in making music with 
  programming languages :-)

 Sam,

 Thanks so much for this. It's quite nice and it worked for me almost without 
 a glitch (the one glitch being that I had to move a pre-existing .emacs to 
 prevent an error). If I could be excused for briefly looking a gift horse in 
 the mouth I'd also say that as a teacher I think it would be even more 
 fabulous if someone could put together  packages (presumably 
 platform-specific packages) that allowed one to do this all in one or two 
 steps, rather than five or six... Installing all of the pieces in one 
 automated process, and also adding the needed lines to the project.clj files 
 etc. Users will want to update/tweak these later, but in the same spirit of 
 this overall package I think it'd be nice to have something that works by 
 default with as few steps as possible. In any event, I do think that this is 
 already quite a nice advance.

 I have two (related?) questions about working in a REPL in the resulting 
 configuration:

 - When I have a split screen with a source file and a REPL I can't seem to 
 get the REPL into the namespace of the source file. I can do C-c C-k to 
 evaluate the file and that produces overtone output as expected (and printed 
 output goes to the REPL), but when I then try to do (in-ns 
 overtoneproject.core) in the REPL [overtoneproject.core is the name I used in 
 the ns form in the file] I get a ClassNotFoundException.

 - I also can't get (load core), or any variant that I could think of, when 
 typed in the REPL to find the file. When I look at the classpath with (seq 
 (.getURLs (java.lang.ClassLoader/getSystemClassLoader))) I see some of my 
 project's files there, so it knows about the project, but it doesn't find 
 my file in the src directory that cake created.

 Any pointers would be appreciated.

 Thanks,

  -Lee

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Re: Screencast: Clojure + Emacs + slime + swank + cake + Overtone

2011-06-23 Thread Lee Spector

Thanks so much, Gary. The quoting error is something that I should have seen 
but didn't :-(, and the two other methods are also great to know about.

I'm still having no luck getting load to find things, but I suspect that that 
is a similarly basic mistake...

 -Lee

On Jun 23, 2011, at 10:08 AM, lambdatronic wrote:

 Lee,
 
  You're just making a simple typo.  To get the REPL to switch to the
 source file's namespace, you have several options:
 
  1) With the point in the source file, press C-c M-p ENTER
 
  2) With the point in the REPL, type ,in ENTER overtoneproject.core
 ENTER
 
  3) With the point in the REPL, type (in-ns 'overtoneproject.core)
 
  Your mistake was to not quote overtoneproject.core, which made the
 clojure compiler look up the value of the symbol as a Java class
 (which it isn't unless you added a :gen-class to the ns form).  By
 quoting it, in-ns gets the symbol overtoneproject.core, which is what
 it uses to look up namespaces:
 
  clojure.core/in-ns
  ([name])
Sets *ns* to the namespace named by the symbol, creating it if
 needed.
 
  Happy hacking,
~Gary
 
 On Jun 21, 11:09 pm, Lee Spector lspec...@hampshire.edu wrote:
 On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Sam Aaron wrote:
 
 I just finished making a screencast primarily for new Overtone users on how 
 to get set up with Emacs as a primary editor:
 
 http://vimeo.com/25190186
 
 
 
 - When I have a split screen with a source file and a REPL I can't seem to 
 get the REPL into the namespace of the source file. I can do C-c C-k to 
 evaluate the file and that produces overtone output as expected (and printed 
 output goes to the REPL), but when I then try to do (in-ns 
 overtoneproject.core) in the REPL [overtoneproject.core is the name I used 
 in the ns form in the file] I get a ClassNotFoundException.
 
 - I also can't get (load core), or any variant that I could think of, when 
 typed in the REPL to find the file. When I look at the classpath with (seq 
 (.getURLs (java.lang.ClassLoader/getSystemClassLoader))) I see some of my 
 project's files there, so it knows about the project, but it doesn't find 
 my file in the src directory that cake created.
 



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getMethods

2011-06-23 Thread Antonio Recio
I have found a function to get the methods of the classes in the book The 
Joy of Clojure, and I would like to use it in REPL. Instead of 
java.awt.Frame I would like to specify the library that I want writing 
something like (methods any.library). Which is the way to get it?

(for [method (seq (.getMethods java.awt.Frame)) :let [method-name (.getName 
method)]] method-name)

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Re: Radically simplified Emacs and SLIME setup

2011-06-23 Thread gaz jones
this is really great, thanks for putting this together.

i have a (possibly daft) question -- is there a neat way to
kill/restart the underlying process. i have looked for a *ahem*
clojure-jack-off function or equivalent but couldnt find one in the
source. i am just killing it from the terminal at the moment and
re-running clojure-jack-in... is there a better way? slime-disconnect
seems to leave the underlying process still running in list-processes.

thanks again!

gaz

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Jeff Dik s45...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark,

 I got this same error when I copied and pasted the clojure-jack-in
 function from gmail.  I had to remove newlines from

 (search-backward slime-load-hook)

 and

 (slime-connect localhost clojure-swank-port)

 Hope that helps,
 Jeff

 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Mark Engelberg
 mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote:
 error in process filter: Search failed: slime-load-hook

 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org wrote:
 On Jun 12, 10:58 am, Mark Engelberg mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I take that back (I had edited the wrong file, which wasn't the one my
 emacs was using).

 I get the error Not enough arguments for format string.

 Oops; I forgot to mention it also needs this:

 (defvar clojure-swank-command lein jack-in %s )

 to replace the old clojure-swank-command defvar.

 -Phil

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Re: Radically simplified Emacs and SLIME setup

2011-06-23 Thread Sam Ritchie
This should do the trick, though I'm not set up with jack-in to test:

At the REPL, type comma (the character ,), then sayoonara.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:20 AM, gaz jones gareth.e.jo...@gmail.comwrote:

 this is really great, thanks for putting this together.

 i have a (possibly daft) question -- is there a neat way to
 kill/restart the underlying process. i have looked for a *ahem*
 clojure-jack-off function or equivalent but couldnt find one in the
 source. i am just killing it from the terminal at the moment and
 re-running clojure-jack-in... is there a better way? slime-disconnect
 seems to leave the underlying process still running in list-processes.

 thanks again!

 gaz

 On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Jeff Dik s45...@gmail.com wrote:
  Mark,
 
  I got this same error when I copied and pasted the clojure-jack-in
  function from gmail.  I had to remove newlines from
 
  (search-backward slime-load-hook)
 
  and
 
  (slime-connect localhost clojure-swank-port)
 
  Hope that helps,
  Jeff
 
  On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Mark Engelberg
  mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote:
  error in process filter: Search failed: slime-load-hook
 
  On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org
 wrote:
  On Jun 12, 10:58 am, Mark Engelberg mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote:
  I take that back (I had edited the wrong file, which wasn't the one my
  emacs was using).
 
  I get the error Not enough arguments for format string.
 
  Oops; I forgot to mention it also needs this:
 
  (defvar clojure-swank-command lein jack-in %s )
 
  to replace the old clojure-swank-command defvar.
 
  -Phil
 
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Re: getMethods

2011-06-23 Thread Michael Wood
On 23 June 2011 17:04, Antonio Recio amdx6...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found a function to get the methods of the classes in the book The
 Joy of Clojure, and I would like to use it in REPL. Instead of
 java.awt.Frame I would like to specify the library that I want writing
 something like (methods any.library). Which is the way to get it?
 (for [method (seq (.getMethods java.awt.Frame)) :let [method-name (.getName
 method)]] method-name)

You can do the above like this:

(map #(.getName %) (.getMethods java.awt.Frame))

And to turn it into a function, you just do this:

(defn class-methods [class-name]
  (map #(.getName %) (.getMethods class-name)))

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Re: ANN: Hafni

2011-06-23 Thread Dave Ray
Hi,

This looks pretty cool. I'd love to see a larger example of how you'd
apply arrows to managing UI state. From my limited understanding,
functions are arrows, but arrows are not functions. The examples you
give fall pretty much in the functions are arrows camp, meaning that
the code could be written just as easily, and maybe more clearly, by
chainging pure functions (please correct me if I'm wrong). I'd like to
see an example where FRP clearly makes handling change easier and more
functional.

When I started working on Seesaw, I did some reading on FRP, but
decided I was already up to my neck with learning Clojure. As a
result, Seesaw's nice to use, but isn't particularly functional and,
as you say, the most annoying parts are those that manipulate the UI.
So, I'd also like to explore how Hafni could be used in conjunction
with Seesaw. If you have further ideas on this or need help, feel free
to contact me.

... and don't feel too bad about writing another Swing wrapper. A
month after starting Seesaw, I stumbled upon another, abandoned
Clojure+Swing project called ... wait for it... Seesaw. Go figure :)

Best regards,

Dave

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg
odysso...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I figured that I would announce a library that I have been working on for a
 while now.

 It's called Hafni, and it's a swing wrapper. Why another swing wrapper?
 I wanted to solve the following problems:

 1. There are a lot of boilerplate code needed.

 2. Changes made to content is not very functional.

 3. Changing content is (sometimes) annoyingly hard.

 To solve these problems, I looked into the very functional world of Haskell
 and found something called Functional reactive programming (FRP)[1][2] which
 has been used to solve problem 2 in gui programming for Haskell. To be able
 to program FRP, the datatype arrow was created (or maybe the other way
 around), and this is what Hafni uses. I wont go into detail here since it is
 not very easy to explain in a short mail, and there are a lot of resources
 out there on the subject (see the links).

 To be honest, when I first started programming on Hafni, I didn't know that
 there existed other swing wrappers for java (I guess I also wanted to try
 this myself, which meant that I didn't really search it out), but since they
 do exist, lets compare Hafni to the two I have seen on this mailing list:
 seesaw [3] and GUIFTW [4].

 1. Hafni is strictly a swing wrapper and does not claim to be anything else.
    Seesaw - aims to provide a ui library, It happens to be built on Swing.
    GUIFTW - It's not tied to any GUI toolkit but instead front-ends for
 each can be written easily.

 2. Hafni has facilities, but is not really interested in exactly how
 components look.
    Seesaw - Doesn't really express an opinion about this, but seems to have
 a lot of facilities for making components look a certain way.
    GUIFTW - Style it in a CSS fashion

 3. When events happen, Hafni uses the Event and arrow datatypes to make
 things happen while both
    seesaw and GUIFTW uses something that looks like
    the standard java event function(s). It should be noted that Hafni
 event/arrows
    behaves exactly like corresponding for seesaw and GUIFTW if no changes is
 made to content.

 The reason of 2 (which, in a way, leads to 3) is that when I wrote swing
 code manually, the parts
 that I were most annoyed with weren't to make things look as I wanted them,
 it was changing them.

 I haven't really looked into it exactly (or tried it), but it looks like
 seesaw and Hafni can be combined
 since seesaw deals directly with java objects (the config! function is
 especially interesting) [5].

 I would like to end this mail with an example of Hafni. This example is the
 same as in the Hafni readme.

 (frame :content (comp-and-events (button :text *)
   :act (flow (output-arr this :text) 
  (arr #(str % *)) 
 (input-arr this :text)))
 :size 200 200 :dont_exit_on_close)

 As it's already explained in the readme, let's look at the most interesting
 part:

 (flow (output-arr this :text)  (arr #(str % *))  (input-arr this
 :text))

 This code snippet says that the current text of the button created with
 (button :text *) should flow to
 the function #(str % *) which adds a * to the text, which should flow to
 the text of that same button.
 The result of this is that when the button is pressed, the text of that
 button is changed as follows:
 *
 **
 ***
 
 etc ...

 And finally, the link to Hafni: https://github.com/odyssomay/Hafni

 ___

 I really hope that someone finds this project interesting, and at best even
 useful. ;)

 Questions, comments, ideas, critique?

 Jonathan

 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_reactive_programming
 2. http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Functional_Reactive_Programming
 3. https://github.com/daveray/seesaw
 4. 

Re: Radically simplified Emacs and SLIME setup

2011-06-23 Thread gaz jones
awesome, it works. many thanks :D i clearly need to read the slime manual

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Sam Ritchie sritchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 This should do the trick, though I'm not set up with jack-in to test:
 At the REPL, type comma (the character ,), then sayoonara.

 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:20 AM, gaz jones gareth.e.jo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 this is really great, thanks for putting this together.

 i have a (possibly daft) question -- is there a neat way to
 kill/restart the underlying process. i have looked for a *ahem*
 clojure-jack-off function or equivalent but couldnt find one in the
 source. i am just killing it from the terminal at the moment and
 re-running clojure-jack-in... is there a better way? slime-disconnect
 seems to leave the underlying process still running in list-processes.

 thanks again!

 gaz

 On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Jeff Dik s45...@gmail.com wrote:
  Mark,
 
  I got this same error when I copied and pasted the clojure-jack-in
  function from gmail.  I had to remove newlines from
 
  (search-backward slime-load-hook)
 
  and
 
  (slime-connect localhost clojure-swank-port)
 
  Hope that helps,
  Jeff
 
  On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Mark Engelberg
  mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote:
  error in process filter: Search failed: slime-load-hook
 
  On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org
  wrote:
  On Jun 12, 10:58 am, Mark Engelberg mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote:
  I take that back (I had edited the wrong file, which wasn't the one
  my
  emacs was using).
 
  I get the error Not enough arguments for format string.
 
  Oops; I forgot to mention it also needs this:
 
  (defvar clojure-swank-command lein jack-in %s )
 
  to replace the old clojure-swank-command defvar.
 
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Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread B Smith-Mannschott
user (name 'a/b/c)
c
user (namespace 'a/b/c)
a/b

Is this intentional? I would have expected a/b/c to be
rejected as a symbol name since we use slashes to separate
namespace from name and conventionally use . to indicate
hierarchy in namespace names.

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Workers

2011-06-23 Thread Dave Ray
Hi there,

I'm playing with a little problem (calculating pi) that is trivially
parallelizable in that I can easily break the calculation up into a
bunch of chunks, send them off to workers and gather the results back
together. The one additional requirement I have is that I'd like the
process to be cancelable. I was wondering how others would go about
doing this, especially in pure Clojure, i.e. without the help of any
libraries. Here are some ideas I've had:

* Each piece of work is a future which sends its result to an agent
that accumulates the final result. This works, but to cancel the work,
I have to keep the futures around and call (future-cancel) on each.
This seems to cause a noticeable lag in the time it takes to cancel.
Also, there doesn't seem to be a good way to cancel the results that
are queued to the accumulator agent. Maybe I should just accumulate in
an atom.

* Create a pool of agents that block on a shared work queue. Then to
cancel, I can just clear the queue. This seems like an abuse of
agents, treating them as threads rather than a data structure with
asynchronous update semantics.

* Use the Work library (https://github.com/getwoven/work). Seems
straightforward enough, but I'm interested in learning about what I
can do with Clojure out of the box.

* Use Lamina (https://github.com/ztellman/lamina). Same story as Work.

A side note: isn't it interesting that both Work and Lamina have
exactly the same number of github watchers (87) and forks (11). Weird.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

Dave

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Re: getMethods

2011-06-23 Thread Stuart Halloway
 I have found a function to get the methods of the classes in the book The
 Joy of Clojure, and I would like to use it in REPL. Instead of
 java.awt.Frame I would like to specify the library that I want writing
 something like (methods any.library). Which is the way to get it?
 (for [method (seq (.getMethods java.awt.Frame)) :let [method-name (.getName
 method)]] method-name)
 
 You can do the above like this:
 
 (map #(.getName %) (.getMethods java.awt.Frame))
 
 And to turn it into a function, you just do this:
 
 (defn class-methods [class-name]
  (map #(.getName %) (.getMethods class-name)))

You might also want to look at clojure.reflect. The API results are data, and 
can easily be mapped/filtered/etc.

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Re: Radically simplified Emacs and SLIME setup

2011-06-23 Thread Phil Hagelberg
Sam Ritchie sritchi...@gmail.com writes:

 This should do the trick, though I'm not set up with jack-in to test:

 At the REPL, type comma (the character ,), then sayoonara.

You can also just kill the *swank* buffer.

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Re: Generating API docs for clojure 1.3 projects

2011-06-23 Thread Tassilo Horn
Shantanu Kumar kumar.shant...@gmail.com writes:

Hi!

 Autodoc is superb! However having run into dependency issues with
 Autodoc myself, I think it would be cool if you can specify Clojure
 and Contrib JARs as only dev-dependencies so that they don't clash
 with the ones the user depends on too. Just an idea.

I've tried that, but then I get

--8---cut here---start-8---
Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: Cannot 
recur across try, compiling:(clojure/contrib/find_namespaces.clj:61)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.analyzeSeq(Compiler.java:6357)
...
Caused by: java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: Cannot recur across try
at clojure.lang.Compiler$RecurExpr$Parser.parse(Compiler.java:6045)
at clojure.lang.Compiler.analyzeSeq(Compiler.java:6350)
... 85 more
Compilation failed.
--8---cut here---end---8---

when running lein jar and lein compile in the autodoc project.

Bye,
Tassilo

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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread Ken Wesson
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:55 AM, B Smith-Mannschott
bsmith.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 user (name 'a/b/c)
 c
 user (namespace 'a/b/c)
 a/b

 Is this intentional? I would have expected a/b/c to be
 rejected as a symbol name since we use slashes to separate
 namespace from name and conventionally use . to indicate
 hierarchy in namespace names.

= (namespace (symbol  a/b))

= (name (symbol  a/b))
a/b

Both the namespace and the name can contain slashes, but the normal
reader behavior is that foo/bar/baz is interpreted as namespace up to
the last slash and then name. Unless the symbol is just /, in which
case the reader treats that as the name, with no namespace. (Necessary
for a bare / to resolve, ordinarily, to the division function
clojure.core//). You can get any desired symbol using the two-argument
form of the symbol function, though.

There's some ickiness here. For instance the one-argument form of
symbol doesn't parse the same as the reader does:

= (clojure.core// 42 2)
21
= (eval (list (symbol clojure.core//) 42 2))
#CompilerException java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String
index out of range: 0 (NO_SOURCE_FILE:1)
= (eval (list (symbol clojure.core /) 42 2))
21

In fact, (symbol clojure.core//) produces a symbol with namespace
clojure.core/ and name , the latter of which apparently leads to
the rather obfuscatory error message above.

Symbols whose names contain slashes don't work as vars -- another
cryptic message, since the symbol's actually unqualified here:

= (eval (list 'def (symbol  foo/bar) 42))
#CompilerException java.lang.Exception: Can't refer to qualified var
that doesn't exist (NO_SOURCE_FILE:1)

And symbols whose namespaces contain slashes won't work as vars with
AOT, if at all, since the namespace name ends up a class file name and
slashes are path separator characters on every sane filesystem and
thus cannot appear in file names.

Moral of the story: try to avoid slashes in symbol names, except for
the unqualified name of the division operator. :) But if you really
for some reason need one it can be done, though the only apparent use
for such a symbol is as a kind of auto-interning string rather than as
a var name. You'd probably be better off using a keyword for such
uses.

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Conversion of one java example to clojure?

2011-06-23 Thread Antonio Recio
I have tried to translate an example of vaadin in java to clojure. But I get 
errors.

This is the java code:
Panel panel = new Panel(Split Panels Inside This Panel);
HorizontalSplitPanel hsplit = new HorizontalSplitPanel();
panel.setContent(hsplit);
Tree tree = new Tree(Menu, TreeExample.createTreeContent());
hsplit.setFirstComponent(tree);
VerticalSplitPanel vsplit = new VerticalSplitPanel();
hsplit.setSecondComponent(vsplit);
vsplit.addComponent(new Label(Here's the upper panel));
vsplit.addComponent(new Buton(Here's the lower panel));

And this the clojure code. Where I am doing wrong?
(defn -init [this]
  (let [app this]
(.setMainWindow this
  (doto (Window. Test application)
(add
  (panel (doto (Panel. Split panels inside this panel)
   (.setContent hsplit)))
  (hsplit (doto (HorizontalSplitPanel.)
(.setFirstComponent tree)
(.setSecondComponent vsplit)))
  (tree Tree. Menu)
  (vsplit VerticalSplitPanel.
  (add (Label. upper panel) (Button. lower panel

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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread B Smith-Mannschott
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:48, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:55 AM, B Smith-Mannschott
 bsmith.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 user (name 'a/b/c)
 c
 user (namespace 'a/b/c)
 a/b

 Is this intentional? I would have expected a/b/c to be
 rejected as a symbol name since we use slashes to separate
 namespace from name and conventionally use . to indicate
 hierarchy in namespace names.

 = (namespace (symbol  a/b))
 
 = (name (symbol  a/b))
 a/b

 Both the namespace and the name can contain slashes, but the normal
 reader behavior is that foo/bar/baz is interpreted as namespace up to
 the last slash and then name. Unless the symbol is just /, in which
 case the reader treats that as the name, with no namespace. (Necessary
 for a bare / to resolve, ordinarily, to the division function
 clojure.core//). You can get any desired symbol using the two-argument
 form of the symbol function, though.

 There's some ickiness here. For instance the one-argument form of
 symbol doesn't parse the same as the reader does:

 = (clojure.core// 42 2)
 21
 = (eval (list (symbol clojure.core//) 42 2))
 #CompilerException java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String
 index out of range: 0 (NO_SOURCE_FILE:1)
 = (eval (list (symbol clojure.core /) 42 2))
 21

 In fact, (symbol clojure.core//) produces a symbol with namespace
 clojure.core/ and name , the latter of which apparently leads to
 the rather obfuscatory error message above.

 Symbols whose names contain slashes don't work as vars -- another
 cryptic message, since the symbol's actually unqualified here:

 = (eval (list 'def (symbol  foo/bar) 42))
 #CompilerException java.lang.Exception: Can't refer to qualified var
 that doesn't exist (NO_SOURCE_FILE:1)

 And symbols whose namespaces contain slashes won't work as vars with
 AOT, if at all, since the namespace name ends up a class file name and
 slashes are path separator characters on every sane filesystem and
 thus cannot appear in file names.

 Moral of the story: try to avoid slashes in symbol names, except for
 the unqualified name of the division operator. :) But if you really
 for some reason need one it can be done, though the only apparent use
 for such a symbol is as a kind of auto-interning string rather than as
 a var name. You'd probably be better off using a keyword for such
 uses.

Thanks!

My question probably should have been: is it intentional that the Clojure reader
accepts symbol names containing more than one slash, producing a
namespace portion
of the symbol containing slashes in its name?

I've been reading through LispReader.java and porting bits of it to
Clojure TDD-style
as a finger exercise. That's how such questions arise.

// ben

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Re: Conversion of one java example to clojure?

2011-06-23 Thread Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant
What is the Java source for setting up the Window object?

Ambrose

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Antonio Recio amdx6...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have tried to translate an example of vaadin in java to clojure. But I
 get errors.

 This is the java code:
 Panel panel = new Panel(Split Panels Inside This Panel);
 HorizontalSplitPanel hsplit = new HorizontalSplitPanel();
 panel.setContent(hsplit);
 Tree tree = new Tree(Menu, TreeExample.createTreeContent());
 hsplit.setFirstComponent(tree);
 VerticalSplitPanel vsplit = new VerticalSplitPanel();
 hsplit.setSecondComponent(vsplit);
 vsplit.addComponent(new Label(Here's the upper panel));
 vsplit.addComponent(new Buton(Here's the lower panel));

 And this the clojure code. Where I am doing wrong?
 (defn -init [this]
   (let [app this]
 (.setMainWindow this
   (doto (Window. Test application)
 (add
   (panel (doto (Panel. Split panels inside this panel)
(.setContent hsplit)))
   (hsplit (doto (HorizontalSplitPanel.)
 (.setFirstComponent tree)
 (.setSecondComponent vsplit)))
   (tree Tree. Menu)
   (vsplit VerticalSplitPanel.
   (add (Label. upper panel) (Button. lower
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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread Stuart Halloway
 My question probably should have been: is it intentional that the Clojure 
 reader
 accepts symbol names containing more than one slash, producing a
 namespace portion
 of the symbol containing slashes in its name?

The docs (http://clojure.org/reader) are specific:

'/' has special meaning, it can be used once in the middle of a symbol to 
separate the namespace from the name, e.g. my-namespace/foo. '/' by itself 
names the division function.

Stu


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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Stuart Halloway
stuart.hallo...@gmail.com wrote:
 The docs (http://clojure.org/reader) are specific:
 '/' has special meaning, it can be used once in the middle of a symbol to
 separate the namespace from the name, e.g. my-namespace/foo. '/' by itself
 names the division function.

Specific perhaps, but incomplete. The docs don't provide enough
information to determine the validity or meaning or 'a/b/c.d for
example.

The docs say what '/ means (by itself) and what 'a/b means (used once
- we'll put aside the imprecision of in the middle of a symbol) but
not what used more than once means.
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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread Ken Wesson
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The docs say what '/ means (by itself) and what 'a/b means (used once
 - we'll put aside the imprecision of in the middle of a symbol)

I think that's fairly clear: that the portions of the symbol to each
side of the / are non-empty. In the middle as opposed to at one end
or the other.

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Re: Conversion of one java example to clojure?

2011-06-23 Thread Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant
Does Window's add() method take multiple arguments? It looks like
you're passing 4 arguments to it.

Also   (tree Tree. Menu)
should be (tree (Tree. Menu))

Same with (vsplit VerticalSplitPanel.
  (add (Label. upper panel) (Button. lower panel

Could you post the full source? Looks like you're using some helper
functions like tree
and vsplit and panel.

Ambrose

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 There are not window in the java code, anyway I have added it in the
 clojure code (could be deleted).

 The window java code could be something like this:
 setMainWindow(new Window(Test application));

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Re: Conversion of one java example to clojure?

2011-06-23 Thread Antonio Recio
There are not window in the java code, anyway I have added it in the clojure 
code (could be deleted).

The window java code could be something like this:
setMainWindow(new Window(Test application));

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[ANN] Clojure 1.3 Beta 1

2011-06-23 Thread Chris Redinger
Clojure 1.3 Beta 1 is now available at

http://clojure.org/downloads

All of you that were waiting for the official beta, now's your chance to
start using it! We look forward to your feedback.

Here are the list of changes:

 0 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 7 to 1.3 Beta 1
 1 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 7 to 1.3 Alpha 8
 2 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 6 to 1.3 Alpha 7
 3 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 5 to 1.3 Alpha 6
 4 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 4 to 1.3 Alpha 5
 5 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 3 to 1.3 Alpha 4
 6 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 2 to 1.3 Alpha 3
 7 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 1 to 1.3 Alpha 2
 8 Changes from 1.2 to 1.3 Alpha 1
 9 About Alpha Releases

Issue Tracking: http://dev.clojure.org/jira

= 0 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 8 to 1.3 Beta 1 (06/21/2011)

  * Fix weak hold-unto-head problem in partition-by (CLJ-769)
  * Protocol's method cache falls back to using a map when shift-mask
table won't work (CLJ-801)

= 1 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 7 to 1.3 Alpha 8 (05/27/2011)

  * improvements to print/read for defrecords/deftypes
(CLJ-800, CLJ-794)
  * numeric fixes (CLJ-795, CLJ-802)
  * fix compiler handling of recur mismatch (CLJ-671)
  * improved method resolution (CLJ-789)
  * allow record fields that collide with method names

= 2 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 6 to 1.3 Alpha 7 (05/13/2011)

  * print/read syntax for defrecords (CLJ-374)
  * several primitive math improvements:
(CLJ-184, CLJ-784, CLJ-690, CLJ-782)
  * case now handles hash collisions (CLJ-426)

= 3 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 5 to 1.3 Alpha 6 (03/11/2011)

  * improved startup time
  * several holding onto head fixes (CLJ-708)
  * internal keyword map uses weak refs
  * fix perf on some numeric overloads (CLJ-380)
  * detect and report cyclic load dependencies (CLJ-8)

= 4 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 4 to 1.3 Alpha 5 (01/14/2011)

  * pprint respects *print-length*
  * into-array now coerces numeric types
  * Java's line.separator property for newline
  * compilation and deployment via Maven

= 5 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 3 to 1.3 Alpha 4 (12/12/2010)

  * normalized unchecked-* fn names
  * added *unchecked-math* support
  * fixes to binding conveyance (and *agent*)

= 6 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 2 to 1.3 Alpha 3 (11/05/2010)

  * fixed filter performance issue introduced in 1.3A2
  * with-redefs macro (useful for stubbing)
  * print-table

= 7 Changes from 1.3 Alpha 1 to 1.3 Alpha 2 (10/10/2010)

  * code path for using vars is now *much* faster for the common case,
and you must explicitly ask for :dynamic bindability
  * new: clojure.reflect/reflect
http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/Reflection+API
  * new: clojure.data/diff

= 8 Changes from 1.2 to 1.3 Alpha 1 (09/23/2010)

  * enhanced primitive support
(http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Enhanced+Primitive+Support)
  * better exception reporting
  * ancillary namespaces no longer auto-load on startup:
clojure.set, clojure.xml, clojure.zip

= 9 About Alpha Releases

1.3 is the first release of Clojure that will include a series of
alpha builds. We are adding these builds to support maven and
leiningen users, who want a specific artifact that they can target (as
opposed to building from master or moving-target snapshots).

If you are the kind of person who used to track master by building
from source, but no longer do so because you are using maven or
leiningen, alpha releases are for you.



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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread B Smith-Mannschott
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 19:48, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Stuart Halloway
 stuart.hallo...@gmail.com wrote:
 The docs (http://clojure.org/reader) are specific:
 '/' has special meaning, it can be used once in the middle of a symbol to
 separate the namespace from the name, e.g. my-namespace/foo. '/' by itself
 names the division function.

 Specific perhaps, but incomplete. The docs don't provide enough
 information to determine the validity or meaning or 'a/b/c.d for
 example.

 The docs say what '/ means (by itself) and what 'a/b means (used once
 - we'll put aside the imprecision of in the middle of a symbol) but
 not what used more than once means.


On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 20:20, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The docs say what '/ means (by itself) and what 'a/b means (used once
 - we'll put aside the imprecision of in the middle of a symbol)

 I think that's fairly clear: that the portions of the symbol to each
 side of the / are non-empty. In the middle as opposed to at one end
 or the other.


I disagree. It's not at all clear from the above description how the
reader will interpret a/b/c:

(1) namespace: a/b
name:  c

(2) namespace: a
name:  b/c

(3) throw an exception since the string violates it can be used once.

The reader as implemented behaves as (1), though it's not clear from
the documentation why this would be preferred above (2) or (3).

// Ben

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Re: Conversion of one java example to clojure?

2011-06-23 Thread Mark Rathwell
It looks like you may also be thinking that you are creating local bindings
in the 'add' call, but you actually need to create those bindings in a let.
 Also,'app' is bound to 'this' but never used.

I think something like this may be closer to what you are trying to do:

(defn -init [this]
  (let [tree (Tree. Menu)
vsplit (doto (VerticalSplitPanel.)
 (.add (Label. upper panel))
 (.add (Button. lower panel)))
hsplit (doto (HorizontalSplitPanel.)
 (.setFirstComponent tree)
 (.setSecondComponent vsplit))
panel (doto (Panel. Split panels inside this panel)
(.setContent hsplit))
window (Window. Test application)]
(do
  (.add window panel)
  (.setMainWindow this window



On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant 
abonnaireserge...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does Window's add() method take multiple arguments? It looks like
 you're passing 4 arguments to it.

 Also   (tree Tree. Menu)
 should be (tree (Tree. Menu))

 Same with (vsplit VerticalSplitPanel.

   (add (Label. upper panel) (Button. lower
 panel

 Could you post the full source? Looks like you're using some helper
 functions like tree
 and vsplit and panel.

 Ambrose

 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Antonio Recio amdx6...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are not window in the java code, anyway I have added it in the
 clojure code (could be deleted).

 The window java code could be something like this:
 setMainWindow(new Window(Test application));

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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread Ken Wesson
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:47 PM, B Smith-Mannschott
bsmith.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 20:20, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The docs say what '/ means (by itself) and what 'a/b means (used once
 - we'll put aside the imprecision of in the middle of a symbol)

 I think that's fairly clear: that the portions of the symbol to each
 side of the / are non-empty. In the middle as opposed to at one end
 or the other.

 I disagree. It's not at all clear from the above description how the
 reader will interpret a/b/c

I wasn't talking about that; just about the alleged imprecision of in
the middle.

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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread Stuart Halloway
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Stuart Halloway
 stuart.hallo...@gmail.com wrote:
 The docs (http://clojure.org/reader) are specific:
 '/' has special meaning, it can be used once in the middle of a symbol to
 separate the namespace from the name, e.g. my-namespace/foo. '/' by itself
 names the division function.
 
 Specific perhaps, but incomplete. The docs don't provide enough
 information to determine the validity or meaning or 'a/b/c.d for
 example.
 
 The docs say what '/ means (by itself) and what 'a/b means (used once
 - we'll put aside the imprecision of in the middle of a symbol) but
 not what used more than once means.
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 20:20, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The docs say what '/ means (by itself) and what 'a/b means (used once
 - we'll put aside the imprecision of in the middle of a symbol)
 
 I think that's fairly clear: that the portions of the symbol to each
 side of the / are non-empty. In the middle as opposed to at one end
 or the other.
 
 
 I disagree. It's not at all clear from the above description how the
 reader will interpret a/b/c:
 
 (1) namespace: a/b
name:  c
 
 (2) namespace: a
name:  b/c
 
 (3) throw an exception since the string violates it can be used once.
 
 The reader as implemented behaves as (1), though it's not clear from
 the documentation why this would be preferred above (2) or (3).
 
 // Ben

The docs at clojure.org do not aspire to enumerate every possible
scenario, especially regarding the things that Clojure does *not* do.

If the docs don't say you can do this, then you should assume you
can't (or at least shouldn't).

Stu


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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 The docs say what '/ means (by itself) and what 'a/b means (used once
 - we'll put aside the imprecision of in the middle of a symbol)
 I think that's fairly clear: that the portions of the symbol to each
 side of the / are non-empty. In the middle as opposed to at one end
 or the other.

So which of the two / is in the middle of 'abc/d/e then? :)
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Re: Conversion of one java example to clojure?

2011-06-23 Thread Antonio Recio
Before I have forgotten to post the source of the function add 
(https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojure/N1wmlOrGYj0/discussion):

(defn add [composite  components]
Avoid repetition of .addComponent
Instead of (doto (Window. \foo\) (.addComponent (Label. \bar\)) 
(.addComponent (Button. \button\)))
you can use (doto (Window. \foo\) (add (Label. \bar\) (Button. 
\button\)))
  (doseq [component components] (.addComponent composite component)))


I would like to post a complete example of vaadin in java 
(http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/#SplitPanelBasic) and the translation in 
clojure that I have done, and to know your opinion.


;; JAVA :

import com.vaadin.terminal.Sizeable;
import com.vaadin.ui.Button;
import com.vaadin.ui.Button.ClickEvent;
import com.vaadin.ui.CheckBox;
import com.vaadin.ui.HorizontalSplitPanel;
import com.vaadin.ui.Label;
import com.vaadin.ui.VerticalLayout;
import com.vaadin.ui.VerticalSplitPanel;

@SuppressWarnings(serial)
public class SplitPanelBasicExample extends VerticalLayout {

public static final String brownFox = The quick brown fox jumps over 
the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown 
fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. 
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over 
the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown 
fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. 
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over 
the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. ;

public SplitPanelBasicExample() {
// First a vertical SplitPanel
final VerticalSplitPanel vert = new VerticalSplitPanel();
vert.setHeight(450px);
vert.setWidth(100%);
vert.setSplitPosition(150, Sizeable.UNITS_PIXELS);
addComponent(vert);

// add a label to the upper area
vert.addComponent(new Label(brownFox));

// Add a horizontal SplitPanel to the lower area
final HorizontalSplitPanel horiz = new HorizontalSplitPanel();
horiz.setSplitPosition(50); // percent
vert.addComponent(horiz);

// left component:
horiz.addComponent(new Label(brownFox));

// right component:
horiz.addComponent(new Label(brownFox));

// Lock toggle button
CheckBox toggleLocked = new CheckBox(Splits locked,
new Button.ClickListener() {
// inline click.listener
public void buttonClick(ClickEvent event) {
vert.setLocked(event.getButton().booleanValue());
horiz.setLocked(event.getButton().booleanValue());
}
});
toggleLocked.setImmediate(true);
addComponent(toggleLocked);

}
}


;; CLOJURE :

(ns project.vapp
  (:gen-class
:extends com.vaadin.Application
:name example.VApp
:init cjinit)
  (:import (com.vaadin.ui CheckBox HorizontalSplitPanel Label VerticalLayout 
VerticalSplitPanel)
   (com.vaadin.terminal Sizeable)))

(defn -cjinit []
  [[] (ref {})])

(defn add [composite  components]
Avoid repetition of .addComponent
Instead of (doto (Window. \foo\) (.addComponent (Label. \bar\)) 
(.addComponent (Button. \button\)))
you can use (doto (Window. \foo\) (add (Label. \bar\) (Button. 
\button\)))
  (doseq [component components] (.addComponent composite component)))

(def brownFox (fn [] The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick 
brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy 
dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps 
over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick 
brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy 
dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps 
over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. The quick 
brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. )) 

(defn -init [this]
  (let [app this]
(vert (doto (VerticalSplitPanel.)
(.setHeight 450px)
(.setWidht 100%)
(.setSplitPosition (150 Sizeable.UNITS_PIXELS))
(add (Label. brownFox) (horiz
(add vert)
(horiz (doto (HorizontalSplitPanel.)
 (.setSplitPosition 50)
 (add (Label. brownFox))   ; Left component
 (add (Label. brownFox ; Right component
(toggleLocked (doto (CheckBox. Split locked)
(.addListener
   (proxy [com.vaadin.ui.Button$ClickListener] []
 (buttonClick [event]
   (.setLocked(- (event.getButton) (.booleanValue)) 
vert)
   (.setLocked(- (event.getButton) (.booleanValue)) 
horiz
(.setImmediate true)))
(add toggleLocked)))

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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread Ken Wesson
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The docs say what '/ means (by itself) and what 'a/b means (used once
 - we'll put aside the imprecision of in the middle of a symbol)
 I think that's fairly clear: that the portions of the symbol to each
 side of the / are non-empty. In the middle as opposed to at one end
 or the other.

 So which of the two / is in the middle of 'abc/d/e then? :)

Both of them. But the context of that phrase originally was used once
in the middle of a symbol, so it was referring to symbols with only
one /.

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Complement to clojure survey

2011-06-23 Thread Milton Silva
As suggested by  Chas Emerick here:
http://cemerick.com/2011/06/15/the-2011-state-of-clojure-survey-is-open/#comments

I've created the following survey:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFFJTTZWT2lXR1N1dTJTWk5mdjZXZlE6MQ

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Freelance Friday @MadLab Every Friday!

2011-06-23 Thread Natalie Whittaker
Title: Freelance Friday in July
Location: MadLab
Description: Bring together the Manchester freelance community.
Start Time: 10:00
Date: Every Friday
End Time: 17:00

Are you free on Fridays? …. if you are come along to our Freelance
Friday. The doors are open to anyone who is looking for a space to
work, and to catch up with other freelancers in the area.

Co-working and freelancing is the future, so why not come along to
MadLab. The fee is a flat £5 all day – your money gets you open wifi,
unlimited tea and coffee, and for those eager beavers a breakfast
buffet of crumpets, croissants and even some five-a-day fruit. You can
get dinner in any of the local eateries (Common have really nice
burgers), bring a pack lunch, or heat up something in our renovated
kitchen.

Make us your Wi-Fi hotspot!

Hope to see you there!

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Re: Complement to clojure survey

2011-06-23 Thread Aaron Bedra

On 06/23/2011 04:22 PM, Milton Silva wrote:

As suggested by  Chas Emerick here:
http://cemerick.com/2011/06/15/the-2011-state-of-clojure-survey-is-open/#comments

I've created the following survey:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFFJTTZWT2lXR1N1dTJTWk5mdjZXZlE6MQ


Can you make the build tools a checkbox list? I use more than one :)


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Re: Complement to clojure survey

2011-06-23 Thread Milton Silva
done ;) btw, why do you find it useful to use more than one? or is it
a necessity?

On Jun 23, 9:44 pm, Aaron Bedra aaron.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/23/2011 04:22 PM, Milton Silva wrote: As suggested by  Chas Emerick 
 here:
 http://cemerick.com/2011/06/15/the-2011-state-of-clojure-survey-is-op...

  I've created the following survey:

 https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFFJTTZW...

 Can you make the build tools a checkbox list? I use more than one :)

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Re: Complement to clojure survey

2011-06-23 Thread Aaron Bedra
I start with Leiningen because it is simple.  I end up on Maven when 
Leiningen can't provide what I need.  This list includes but is not 
limited to:


* Projects that have multiple local project dependencies, all in the 
build chain
* Projects that have native (JNI) code that need to be built and are a 
dependency of the project
* Projects where Leiningen just happens to fall down for some 
unexplained reason


Please don't read this as Leiningen sucks.  I love Leiningen and it IS 
my default.  There are just some things that crop up every now and again 
and since I am too lazy to fix them myself, I suffer the consequences 
(Maven).


Cheers,

Aaron

On 06/23/2011 05:06 PM, Milton Silva wrote:

done ;) btw, why do you find it useful to use more than one? or is it
a necessity?

On Jun 23, 9:44 pm, Aaron Bedraaaron.be...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 06/23/2011 04:22 PM, Milton Silva wrote:  As suggested by  Chas Emerick 
here:

http://cemerick.com/2011/06/15/the-2011-state-of-clojure-survey-is-op...
I've created the following survey:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFFJTTZW...

Can you make the build tools a checkbox list? I use more than one :)


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Re: Complement to clojure survey

2011-06-23 Thread Phil Hagelberg
Aaron Bedra aaron.be...@gmail.com writes:

 I start with Leiningen because it is simple.  I end up on Maven when
 Leiningen can't provide what I need.  This list includes but is not
 limited to:

 * Projects that have multiple local project dependencies, all in the
 build chain

Have you looked into checkout dependencies? I'd be interested in hearing
more about this particular use case if it's something that checkout deps
don't address.

 * Projects that have native (JNI) code that need to be built and are a
 dependency of the project

Hah; I have been looking for people to test the new native deps support
in Leiningen for weeks. Where have you been? =)

 * Projects where Leiningen just happens to fall down for some
 unexplained reason

It would be great to see bug reports for these cases if it's not too
much trouble.

-Phil

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setting the classpath in cake+slime (was Re: Screencast: Clojure + Emacs + slime + swank + cake + Overtone)

2011-06-23 Thread Lee Spector

I wrote (below) about being unable to get load to work from the slime repl 
after completing the emacs/cake/swank/slime setup that Sam presented in helpful 
video. 

Now I think it's a more general problem of not setting the classpath correctly. 
If I try to :use something in the ns form in a file, for which I have a .clj 
file in the same directory as the core.clj that cake created, then when I 
evaluate the buffer in emacs the required file is not found.

How and where do I set up the classpath so that this will work (using 
emacs/cake/swank/slime)? If possible I'd like to set it up so that it always 
finds anything anywhere in the cake project directory, including .clj files in 
src/.

Thanks,

 -Lee


 On Jun 21, 11:09 pm, Lee Spector lspec...@hampshire.edu wrote:
 On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Sam Aaron wrote:
 
 I just finished making a screencast primarily for new Overtone users on 
 how to get set up with Emacs as a primary editor:
 
 http://vimeo.com/25190186
 
 
 - I also can't get (load core), or any variant that I could think of, 
 when typed in the REPL to find the file. When I look at the classpath with 
 (seq (.getURLs (java.lang.ClassLoader/getSystemClassLoader))) I see some of 
 my project's files there, so it knows about the project, but it doesn't 
 find my file in the src directory that cake created.
 
 

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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
 Both of them. But the context of that phrase originally was used once
 in the middle of a symbol, so it was referring to symbols with only
 one /.

Which is the whole point: the docs ascribe meaning to a/b and to / but
do not ascribe meaning to a/b/c

So the question still remains: is a/b/c supposed to be a valid symbol
and, if so, is it a/b and c or is it a and b/c?

Current behavior suggests a/b and c but it's not clear whether
that's by design or thru an accident of implementation.
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Re: Complement to clojure survey

2011-06-23 Thread Aaron Bedra

On 06/23/2011 05:56 PM, Phil Hagelberg wrote:

Aaron Bedraaaron.be...@gmail.com  writes:


I start with Leiningen because it is simple.  I end up on Maven when
Leiningen can't provide what I need.  This list includes but is not
limited to:

* Projects that have multiple local project dependencies, all in the
build chain

Have you looked into checkout dependencies? I'd be interested in hearing
more about this particular use case if it's something that checkout deps
don't address.

I haven't looked at that quite yet.

* Projects that have native (JNI) code that need to be built and are a
dependency of the project

Hah; I have been looking for people to test the new native deps support
in Leiningen for weeks. Where have you been? =)
My native deps problem is the one that I replied to on the list when you 
asked for help.  It is not just including a native dep, but actually 
building it.

* Projects where Leiningen just happens to fall down for some
unexplained reason

It would be great to see bug reports for these cases if it's not too
much trouble.

Yes, we need to start sending stuff in.  The only problem is recreating 
the bug in a way where we can share the code.  It is often times some 
strange repl issue that doesn't exist until we are multiple layers deep 
in a project.  There haven't really been too many random lein bugs in 
quite a while though.  Most of them had to do with repl but we don't use 
that anymore.


I'll try to be more diligent with submitting reports :)

Aaron

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Re: Conversion of one java example to clojure?

2011-06-23 Thread .Bill Smith
Why is brownFox a function instead of a string constant?  

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Re: Complement to clojure survey

2011-06-23 Thread Phil Hagelberg
Aaron Bedra aaron.be...@gmail.com writes:

 Hah; I have been looking for people to test the new native deps support
 in Leiningen for weeks. Where have you been? =)
 My native deps problem is the one that I replied to on the list when
 you asked for help.  It is not just including a native dep, but
 actually building it.

Oh, I see; yes that's different. I'm interested in discussing that once
Leiningen 1.6 is released. I'd love to get some requirements as there
are very few open source projects that actually use native code and I
have never been in that position myself.

-Phil

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Re: Complement to clojure survey

2011-06-23 Thread Aaron Bedra

On 06/23/2011 11:25 PM, Phil Hagelberg wrote:

Aaron Bedraaaron.be...@gmail.com  writes:


Hah; I have been looking for people to test the new native deps support
in Leiningen for weeks. Where have you been? =)

My native deps problem is the one that I replied to on the list when
you asked for help.  It is not just including a native dep, but
actually building it.

Oh, I see; yes that's different. I'm interested in discussing that once
Leiningen 1.6 is released. I'd love to get some requirements as there
are very few open source projects that actually use native code and I
have never been in that position myself.

-Phil

I'm happy to run down the scenario that we've had and help put something 
together


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Re: Can the namespace portion of a symbol contain slashes?

2011-06-23 Thread Ken Wesson
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
 Both of them. But the context of that phrase originally was used once
 in the middle of a symbol, so it was referring to symbols with only
 one /.

 Which is the whole point: the docs ascribe meaning to a/b and to / but
 do not ascribe meaning to a/b/c

That was your point. I never disputed it. I only said there was
nothing particularly ambiguous about the specific phrase in the
middle of.

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