osc-clj 0.5.0 - Open Sound Control for Clojure
Hi there, I just thought I'd announce quite a significant update to osc-clj. This is the first release that can claim to have full support for the OSC spec: http://opensoundcontrol.org/spec-1_0 The major new features are as follows: * Support for the timely dispatch of bundles scheduled for the future (using at-at) * Full support for OSC pattern matching (allowing incoming messages to match against multiple handler 'methods' * Support for zeroconf - when you create a server, you can pass a string as an optional param which will be automatically registered with zeroconf when you explicitly turn it on with (zero-conf-on). So, if you're interested with working with new-school instruments/interfaces such as TouchOSC, grab a copy of osc-clj and happy hacking! https://github.com/overtone/osc-clj/ Sam --- http://sam.aaron.name -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: osc-clj 0.5.0 - Open Sound Control for Clojure
Nice work. Perhaps it's getting to be time to retire my own Java OSC library... Is this reachable via Lein/Maven? -- N. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Spitting out a lazy seq to file???
Hi everyone, I have been struggling with this, hopefully, simple problem now for quite sometime, What I want to do is: *) read a file line by line *) modify each line *) write it back to a different file This is a bit of sample code that reproduces the problem: == (def old-data (line-seq (reader input.txt))) (defn change-line [i] (str i added stuff)) (spit output.txt (map change-line old-data)) == #cat output.txt clojure.lang.LazySeq@58d844f8 Because I get the lazy sequence I think I have to force the execution? but where exactly? And how? Thanks in advance!!! Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Spitting out a lazy seq to file???
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Thomas th.vanderv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I have been struggling with this, hopefully, simple problem now for quite sometime, What I want to do is: *) read a file line by line *) modify each line *) write it back to a different file This is a bit of sample code that reproduces the problem: == (def old-data (line-seq (reader input.txt))) (defn change-line [i] (str i added stuff)) (spit output.txt (map change-line old-data)) == #cat output.txt clojure.lang.LazySeq@58d844f8 Because I get the lazy sequence I think I have to force the execution? but where exactly? And how? The spit function expects a string; you need to pr-str the object. However, that will output it like the REPL would: (line1 line2 line3 ...) You probably want no parentheses, and separate lines. So you'll want something more like (with-open [w (writer-on output.txt)] (binding [*out* w] (doseq [l (map change-line old-data)] (println l The output part is lazy now, so you might want to consider making the input part lazy as well: (with-open [r (reader-on the-input-file) w (writer-on output.txt)] (binding [*out* w] (doseq [l (line-seq r)] (println (change-line l) (note: untested, and assumes suitable reader-on and writer-on functions such as from contrib) Then it will be able to process files bigger than can be held in main memory all at once. -- Protege: What is this seething mass of parentheses?! Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more civilized age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Access `this` in ClojureScript
Is there a recommended way to access `this` within ClojureScript aside from (js* this)? I'm using jQuery event handlers, which set `this` to originating DOM element, and I'd like to get my hands on them. In other news, I'm liking ClojureScript more and more every day = ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Stanford AI Class
The NYTimes article on the class also mentions two other classes being offered for free: * Machine Learning, by Andrew Ng * Introductory course on database software, by Jennifer Widom I'm not sure of the official website for either of these, but the Machine Learning class sounds promising and didn't have a required textbook the way the AI class does. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Spitting out a lazy seq to file???
Hi, Am 16.08.2011 um 17:26 schrieb Thomas: I have been struggling with this, hopefully, simple problem now for quite sometime, What I want to do is: *) read a file line by line *) modify each line *) write it back to a different file This is a bit of sample code that reproduces the problem: == (def old-data (line-seq (reader input.txt))) (defn change-line [i] (str i added stuff)) (spit output.txt (map change-line old-data)) == #cat output.txt clojure.lang.LazySeq@58d844f8 Because I get the lazy sequence I think I have to force the execution? but where exactly? And how? spit does not take a sequence of lines. Hence you'll have to do something like this: (- old-data (map change-line) (interpose \newline) (apply str) (spit output.txt)) Sincerely Meikel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Stanford AI Class
Ng's course on machine learning is online. I've already taken it. You need a background in probability. Tim Daly On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 08:52 -0700, ax2groin wrote: The NYTimes article on the class also mentions two other classes being offered for free: * Machine Learning, by Andrew Ng * Introductory course on database software, by Jennifer Widom I'm not sure of the official website for either of these, but the Machine Learning class sounds promising and didn't have a required textbook the way the AI class does. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Stanford AI Class
The Machine Learning class from 2008 has been available at iTunes University for a while, but I'm not aware of it having the same kinds of support materials as the online AI class has said they will offer. Be forewarned: the Machine Learning class is presented in a very math intensive way (statistics, linear algebra, and multivariate calculus), and a lot of the math refreshers were apparently offered in sessions with TAs that were not (as far as I know) placed online. I felt like I got a greater understanding of machine learning by reading the book Data Mining by Witten. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Spitting out a lazy seq to file???
2011/8/16 Thomas th.vanderv...@gmail.com: Hi everyone, I have been struggling with this, hopefully, simple problem now for quite sometime, What I want to do is: *) read a file line by line *) modify each line *) write it back to a different file This is a bit of sample code that reproduces the problem: == (def old-data (line-seq (reader input.txt))) (defn change-line [i] (str i added stuff)) (spit output.txt (map change-line old-data)) == #cat output.txt clojure.lang.LazySeq@58d844f8 Because I get the lazy sequence I think I have to force the execution? but where exactly? And how? Thanks in advance!!! spit operates on strings, so therefore you have to turn your data into one big string first. (spit implicitly calls str on its argument, but this is not very useful.) What you have is a sequence of string, so depending of what you want to appear in the file you have multiple options: For an arbitrary clojure data structure you can use pr-str to convert it into the same format you get at the repl: (spit output.txt (pr-str (map change-line old-data))). This can be useful to dump some data to a file and will yield something like this: (line1 added stuff line2 added stuff) To simply write a file where each line corresponds to a string element in the sequence, you can either build a new string with consisting of the strings of the seq, each with a newline character appended to the end, concatenated together and spit that, or you can use something else that doesn't require you to build this monolithic string. Since you used line-seq rather than slurp to read in the file, I will instead demonstrate an other approach than spit: (require '[clojure.java.io :as io]) (with-open [in (io/reader input-filename) out (io/writer output-filename)] (binding [*out* out] (- in (line-seq) (map change-line) (map println) (dorun This consumes the sequence line by line and writes the lines to the file. This solution only needs to have one line in memory at a time. The spit approach would require one big string to be constructed, and might not be very suited for big files. The code would output a file like this: line1 added stuff line2 added stuff So in general, use slurp together with spit or read-line (or its line-seq variant) together with println. // raek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Spitting out a lazy seq to file???
You can put the line break back into each line ( added stuff\n) and then do: (spit output.txt (reduce str (map change-line old-data))) On Aug 16, 8:26 am, Thomas th.vanderv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I have been struggling with this, hopefully, simple problem now for quite sometime, What I want to do is: *) read a file line by line *) modify each line *) write it back to a different file This is a bit of sample code that reproduces the problem: == (def old-data (line-seq (reader input.txt))) (defn change-line [i] (str i added stuff)) (spit output.txt (map change-line old-data)) == #cat output.txt clojure.lang.LazySeq@58d844f8 Because I get the lazy sequence I think I have to force the execution? but where exactly? And how? Thanks in advance!!! Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: osc-clj 0.5.0 - Open Sound Control for Clojure
Hey Nick, On 16 Aug 2011, at 13:57, cassiel wrote: Is this reachable via Lein/Maven? Absolutely. The 0.5.0 release is on Clojars, so you just need to add: [overtone/osc-clj 0.5.0] to your project dependencies in project.clj for cake/lein. To get started with the lib, first up, check out the README on github: https://github.com/overtone/osc-clj and then take a peek through the fns in the 'public' osc ns: https://github.com/overtone/osc-clj/blob/master/src/osc.clj Let me know if I can be of any further assistance. It's important to me that the library should be easy to get started with - so I'd like to hear about any places where this isn't the case - i.e. dodgy documentation/unexpected behaviour etc. Sam --- http://sam.aaron.name -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Stanford AI Class
They will also be available to be taken as an online class with grading as the AI introduction class. Links are on the main introduction to AI page - http://www.ai-class.com/ : http://www.db-class.com/ http://www.ml-class.com/ See also Stanford Engineering Everywhere where past lectures and material of several other courses are available for free: http://see.stanford.edu/ On Aug 16, 12:21 pm, daly d...@axiom-developer.org wrote: Ng's course on machine learning is online. I've already taken it. You need a background in probability. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
[ANN] napalm
First, apologies to anyone not interested. This isn't clojure project but it helps to setup it. Windows users can skip this announcement because napalm doesn't help them very much. Napalm is a tool to help manage multiple versions of clojure and other java like projects. It's a small project written as a bash script therefore it should work in most Linux distributions. Definitely works in Arch Linux, Linux Mint and Ubuntu. It should even work in Mac but I haven't tried it. Here is a quick summary: Automate installation of archived (zip, gz, bz2, jar) programs that are unsuited or unavailable from a package repository. Screenshots for the impatient that show how to use it: https://github.com/mbezjak/napalm/wiki And documentation for the rest: https://github.com/mbezjak/napalm Feedback is always appreciated. Cheers, Miro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Clojure/conj for beginners?
Hi Recently I've taken interest to learning Clojure. I've watched presentations, read the Joy of Clojure, done some examples on 4clojure, but have yet to do any real programming. I work in enterprise-land and for the most part its all Java without much room to try newer things. With that being said, I do have some company money dedicated to professional development. Unfortunately its not enough for the training option at Clojure/conj, but would be enough for travel and conference attendance. I was wondering if the conference would be useful for someone in my position, a Clojure beginner. Would the presentations be over my head, or worthwhile? Thanks! --- Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Clojure for Android
http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/Android+Support Issues Needs a motivated owner This topic gets a regular mention but I thought it might be worth asking again if it's ever likely to get the 'motivated owner' ? Given that 'reach' was a primary reason for the development of ClojureScript shouldn't the reach of Android encourage someone to go for it? I only wish I was capable of doing it myself :) James. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clojure-CLR, CLASSPATH, clojure.load.path and Cygwin
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:34:39AM -0400, Ken Wesson spake thus: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, mrwizard82d1 mrwizard8...@gmail.com wrote: I understand that the 1.3 beta plans to add an environment variable named clojure.load.path to provide a CLASSPATH mechanism for Clojure on the CLR. Although I use Windows, I have installed cygwin because I prefer the Unix tool set to that provided by Windows. Although a Windows console allows one to set environment variables like clojure.load.path, the bash shell does not. Are you sure there isn't some form of quoting or escaping that will make that name acceptable to bash? Identifiers in bash may contain only alphanumeric characters and underscores, and must start with an alphabetic character or underscore; there's no way to get around that with escaping or quoting. -Al -- - a l a n d. s a l e w s k i salew...@att.net 1024D/FA2C3588 EDFA 195F EDF1 0933 1002 6396 7C92 5CB3 FA2C 3588 - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clojure-CLR, CLASSPATH, clojure.load.path and Cygwin
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Alan D. Salewski salew...@att.net wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:34:39AM -0400, Ken Wesson spake thus: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, mrwizard82d1 mrwizard8...@gmail.com wrote: I understand that the 1.3 beta plans to add an environment variable named clojure.load.path to provide a CLASSPATH mechanism for Clojure on the CLR. Although I use Windows, I have installed cygwin because I prefer the Unix tool set to that provided by Windows. Although a Windows console allows one to set environment variables like clojure.load.path, the bash shell does not. Are you sure there isn't some form of quoting or escaping that will make that name acceptable to bash? Identifiers in bash may contain only alphanumeric characters and underscores, and must start with an alphabetic character or underscore; there's no way to get around that with escaping or quoting. Pardon me, but that seems to be missing the point. You don't need a bash-language variable named clojure.load.path, you just need to set a Windows environment variable named clojure.load.path, and the rules for what characters are allowed in the names of Windows environment variables will still be those set by Windows, which apparently permit periods. As far as your bash script is concerned, clojure.load.path probably needn't be anything more than an opaque string passed to the host operating system via a call of some kind -- though that string could conceivably require quoting or escaping where it's embedded as a literal in the script. If bash has its own environment variable system, then that could be confusing you, but then even if you succeeded it wouldn't work; the Clojure tools won't see bash's internal system, only the host OS's, so it's the host OS environment variables you need to get at regardless. -- Protege: What is this seething mass of parentheses?! Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more civilized age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Stanford AI Class
Nice. I'm glad these other classes are getting the full treatment. It's really a shame they don't do a clearer job of defining the prerequisites. For example, they should post some sort of pre-test with specific examples of the kind of math that is needed to understand the class. I find it difficult to know whether to recommend the classes to the high school students I know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clojure/conj for beginners?
Hi Chris, The Clojure-Conj presentations will be varied. Some will be technical and advanced, some will be beginner introductions, and some will be about interesting projects being done in Clojure. Whatever your level, if you are interested in Clojure and want to learn more, Clojure-Conj should be a good place to do it. Stuart Sierra clojure.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Problems with namespaces in repljs
Hi Tim, The `ns` macro doesn't work from the ClojureScript REPL right now. This is a known bug caused by the JavaScript code the compiler emits for `ns`. Also, there is no `require` function for the REPL yet. Some people have written versions of `require` and posted them to the list. -Stuart Sierra clojure.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: clojure.java.jdbc input on JDBC-3 (esp. Stuart Sierra!)
Hi Sean, I no longer remember what I was looking at when I wrote that ticket. :) Maybe I just wasn't aware of `insert-records`. -S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: syntax quoting and namespaces misbehaving in test?
Thanks for your replies. Do you think this is a bug, given that the documentation doesn't seem to concur with this behaviour? On Aug 15, 9:54 pm, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, forget everything I said, this has nothing to do with macro expansion. Looks more like inside a function you can only def something in the same namespace as the function: user (defn ff [] (in-ns 'foo.core2) (def anything5 10)) #'user/ff user anything5 Var user/anything5 is unbound. [Thrown class java.lang.IllegalStateException] user (ff) #'user/anything5 foo.core2 (in-ns 'foo.core2) #Namespace foo.core2 foo.core2 (def anything6 10) #'foo.core2/anything6 On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: You are correct, I must have messed something up in my expansions. From the below, however, it looks like a var is being declared just by having the macro called, but not bound to the value: user (defmacro foo [name body] `(def ~name ~(identity `(fn [] ~@body #'user/foo user (foo xx (in-ns 'foo.core) (def anything3 10)) #'user/xx user anything3 Var user/anything3 is unbound. [Thrown class java.lang.IllegalStateException] user anything4 Unable to resolve symbol: anything4 in this context [Thrown class java.lang.Exception] On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Alan Malloy a...@malloys.org wrote: I either disagree or don't understand. The deftest macro doesn't touch your body arg; it's expanded as-is. For example, (let [x 'foo] `(inc ~x)) doesn't result in foo getting qualified, and most macros behave the same way. On Aug 15, 4:36 pm, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, it is namespace resolved because of syntax quote: (defmacro deftest [name body] (when *load-tests* `(def ~(vary-meta name assoc :test `(fn [] ~@body)) (fn [] (test-var (var ~name)) On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Alan Malloy a...@malloys.org wrote: Is it? That's neat; I guess I've never thought about how the compiler treats def. Thanks for the explanation. On Aug 15, 3:03 pm, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: deftest is a macro. Macros are expanded at compile time. So, in this case, at compile time, a function called namespace2 is def'd with meta data :test set to the body of your deftest. All of that body is namespace resolved in macro expansion, before in-ns is ever executed (which happens when you actually call the namespace2 function created by the macro). Put another way, (def anything 10) is namespace resolved to (def learn.clojure.test.core/anything 10) at macro expansion time (compile time), before the test function is ever called, and thereby before in-ns is ever executed. Hope this helps. On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Richard Rattigan ratti...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finding that namespaces don't seem to behave as I expect intuitively, or according to the reference. It's quite possible I'm in the wrong here though, as I'm just kicking clojure's tires at this point. Here is the relevant doc: http://clojure.org/special_forms (def symbol init?) Creates and interns or locates a global var with the name of symbol and a namespace of the value of the current namespace (*ns*). In the test below, which succeeds, the var does not appear to end up in the current namespace per this definition. Am I misinterpreting something, or is this a deviation from the spec/reference? (ns learn.clojure.test.core (:use [clojure.test])) (deftest namespace2 (in-ns 'my.new.namespace) ;confirm the current namespace (is (= my.new.namespace (str *ns*))) ;attempt to def a var in the current namespace (def anything 10) ;the var is not defined in the current namespace (is (nil? (ns-resolve *ns* 'anything))) ;the var is however definined in the orginal namespace (is (not (nil? (ns-resolve (find-ns 'learn.clojure.test.core) 'anything (is (= 10 learn.clojure.test.core/anything))) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
Re: syntax quoting and namespaces misbehaving in test?
The def special form seems to be a bit strange that way, in that (def sym thingy) seems to do two things: execute a (declare sym) at read or macroexpansion time, even when inside a function definition rather than at top level, and execute an (alter-var-root! sym (constantly thingy)) when actually reached by flow of control. If you want runtime-only def behavior you need to either use the namespace object's intern methods via interop or use (eval `(def ~sym ~thingy)). -- Protege: What is this seething mass of parentheses?! Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more civilized age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: syntax quoting and namespaces misbehaving in test?
I *think* it is expected behavior. Take this with a grain of salt, but I *think* that defs are namespace resolved at compile time, and so will not be checking in-ns calls within a function to determine the appropriate namespace, but will instead always use the ns of the function containing the def. - Mark On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Richard Rattigan ratti...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your replies. Do you think this is a bug, given that the documentation doesn't seem to concur with this behaviour? On Aug 15, 9:54 pm, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, forget everything I said, this has nothing to do with macro expansion. Looks more like inside a function you can only def something in the same namespace as the function: user (defn ff [] (in-ns 'foo.core2) (def anything5 10)) #'user/ff user anything5 Var user/anything5 is unbound. [Thrown class java.lang.IllegalStateException] user (ff) #'user/anything5 foo.core2 (in-ns 'foo.core2) #Namespace foo.core2 foo.core2 (def anything6 10) #'foo.core2/anything6 On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: You are correct, I must have messed something up in my expansions. From the below, however, it looks like a var is being declared just by having the macro called, but not bound to the value: user (defmacro foo [name body] `(def ~name ~(identity `(fn [] ~@body #'user/foo user (foo xx (in-ns 'foo.core) (def anything3 10)) #'user/xx user anything3 Var user/anything3 is unbound. [Thrown class java.lang.IllegalStateException] user anything4 Unable to resolve symbol: anything4 in this context [Thrown class java.lang.Exception] On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Alan Malloy a...@malloys.org wrote: I either disagree or don't understand. The deftest macro doesn't touch your body arg; it's expanded as-is. For example, (let [x 'foo] `(inc ~x)) doesn't result in foo getting qualified, and most macros behave the same way. On Aug 15, 4:36 pm, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, it is namespace resolved because of syntax quote: (defmacro deftest [name body] (when *load-tests* `(def ~(vary-meta name assoc :test `(fn [] ~@body)) (fn [] (test-var (var ~name)) On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Alan Malloy a...@malloys.org wrote: Is it? That's neat; I guess I've never thought about how the compiler treats def. Thanks for the explanation. On Aug 15, 3:03 pm, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: deftest is a macro. Macros are expanded at compile time. So, in this case, at compile time, a function called namespace2 is def'd with meta data :test set to the body of your deftest. All of that body is namespace resolved in macro expansion, before in-ns is ever executed (which happens when you actually call the namespace2 function created by the macro). Put another way, (def anything 10) is namespace resolved to (def learn.clojure.test.core/anything 10) at macro expansion time (compile time), before the test function is ever called, and thereby before in-ns is ever executed. Hope this helps. On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Richard Rattigan ratti...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finding that namespaces don't seem to behave as I expect intuitively, or according to the reference. It's quite possible I'm in the wrong here though, as I'm just kicking clojure's tires at this point. Here is the relevant doc: http://clojure.org/special_forms (def symbol init?) Creates and interns or locates a global var with the name of symbol and a namespace of the value of the current namespace (*ns*). In the test below, which succeeds, the var does not appear to end up in the current namespace per this definition. Am I misinterpreting something, or is this a deviation from the spec/reference? (ns learn.clojure.test.core (:use [clojure.test])) (deftest namespace2 (in-ns 'my.new.namespace) ;confirm the current namespace (is (= my.new.namespace (str *ns*))) ;attempt to def a var in the current namespace (def anything 10) ;the var is not defined in the current namespace (is (nil? (ns-resolve *ns* 'anything))) ;the var is however definined in the orginal namespace (is (not (nil? (ns-resolve (find-ns 'learn.clojure.test.core) 'anything (is (= 10 learn.clojure.test.core/anything))) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this
Re: Async Requests in ClojureScript
Hi Base, I have a super basic example of this on my blog at http://boss-level.com/?p=119 It should get you over this hump. Gimme a shout if you have problems, Edmund On 16/08/2011 19:08, Base wrote: Hi All - I am attempting to get started in ClojureScript and am completely flummoxed on getting my connectivity set up. I have a web server running on my local machine such that http://localhost:8080/m yields my data correctly (just a test URL...) I am attempting to connect using the following cljs (ns hello.foo.dat (:require [goog.net.XhrIo :as gxhr] [goog.Uri :as uri] [cljs.reader :as reader])) (defn- extract-response [message] (reader/read-string (. message/target (getResponseText (defn get-data [_] (gxhr/send (goog.Uri. http://localhost:8080/m;) extract-response)) However when I attempt to execute this function in the browser I get 'undefined' returned. Anything you can see here that I am doing wrong? This does appear to execute correctly (i.e. the function is called, as a hard coded return string does return correctly) Any help is most welcomed! Thanks, Base -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: syntax quoting and namespaces misbehaving in test?
100% expected. Try (def other.ns/some-var 1) - the compiler tells you it's illegal. If you read the compiler source, it's looking at the var's namespace and refusing to def it if it's not the current namespace. If you want behavior like this, you want (intern), not (def). On Aug 16, 12:07 pm, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: I *think* it is expected behavior. Take this with a grain of salt, but I *think* that defs are namespace resolved at compile time, and so will not be checking in-ns calls within a function to determine the appropriate namespace, but will instead always use the ns of the function containing the def. - Mark On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Richard Rattigan ratti...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your replies. Do you think this is a bug, given that the documentation doesn't seem to concur with this behaviour? On Aug 15, 9:54 pm, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, forget everything I said, this has nothing to do with macro expansion. Looks more like inside a function you can only def something in the same namespace as the function: user (defn ff [] (in-ns 'foo.core2) (def anything5 10)) #'user/ff user anything5 Var user/anything5 is unbound. [Thrown class java.lang.IllegalStateException] user (ff) #'user/anything5 foo.core2 (in-ns 'foo.core2) #Namespace foo.core2 foo.core2 (def anything6 10) #'foo.core2/anything6 On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: You are correct, I must have messed something up in my expansions. From the below, however, it looks like a var is being declared just by having the macro called, but not bound to the value: user (defmacro foo [name body] `(def ~name ~(identity `(fn [] ~@body #'user/foo user (foo xx (in-ns 'foo.core) (def anything3 10)) #'user/xx user anything3 Var user/anything3 is unbound. [Thrown class java.lang.IllegalStateException] user anything4 Unable to resolve symbol: anything4 in this context [Thrown class java.lang.Exception] On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Alan Malloy a...@malloys.org wrote: I either disagree or don't understand. The deftest macro doesn't touch your body arg; it's expanded as-is. For example, (let [x 'foo] `(inc ~x)) doesn't result in foo getting qualified, and most macros behave the same way. On Aug 15, 4:36 pm, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, it is namespace resolved because of syntax quote: (defmacro deftest [name body] (when *load-tests* `(def ~(vary-meta name assoc :test `(fn [] ~@body)) (fn [] (test-var (var ~name)) On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Alan Malloy a...@malloys.org wrote: Is it? That's neat; I guess I've never thought about how the compiler treats def. Thanks for the explanation. On Aug 15, 3:03 pm, Mark Rathwell mark.rathw...@gmail.com wrote: deftest is a macro. Macros are expanded at compile time. So, in this case, at compile time, a function called namespace2 is def'd with meta data :test set to the body of your deftest. All of that body is namespace resolved in macro expansion, before in-ns is ever executed (which happens when you actually call the namespace2 function created by the macro). Put another way, (def anything 10) is namespace resolved to (def learn.clojure.test.core/anything 10) at macro expansion time (compile time), before the test function is ever called, and thereby before in-ns is ever executed. Hope this helps. On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Richard Rattigan ratti...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finding that namespaces don't seem to behave as I expect intuitively, or according to the reference. It's quite possible I'm in the wrong here though, as I'm just kicking clojure's tires at this point. Here is the relevant doc: http://clojure.org/special_forms (def symbol init?) Creates and interns or locates a global var with the name of symbol and a namespace of the value of the current namespace (*ns*). In the test below, which succeeds, the var does not appear to end up in the current namespace per this definition. Am I misinterpreting something, or is this a deviation from the spec/reference? (ns learn.clojure.test.core (:use [clojure.test])) (deftest namespace2 (in-ns 'my.new.namespace) ;confirm the current namespace (is (= my.new.namespace (str *ns*))) ;attempt to def a var in the current namespace (def anything 10) ;the var is not defined in the current namespace (is (nil? (ns-resolve *ns* 'anything))) ;the var is however definined in the orginal namespace (is (not (nil? (ns-resolve (find-ns 'learn.clojure.test.core) 'anything (is (= 10
Re: Stanford AI Class
I was wondering about the prerequisites as well and found some further information here: http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs229/materials.html In particular, the first 2 entries under Section Notes. On Aug 16, 1:46 pm, Mark Engelberg mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. I'm glad these other classes are getting the full treatment. It's really a shame they don't do a clearer job of defining the prerequisites. For example, they should post some sort of pre-test with specific examples of the kind of math that is needed to understand the class. I find it difficult to know whether to recommend the classes to the high school students I know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Trouble embedding clojurescript in server application
Thank you for confirming this. Hopefully the clojurescript gods will figure it out, because I'm still clueless. Until then I'll either create manual buildscripts or stick with the current coffeescript client. Thanks, Marius K. On Aug 16, 3:17 am, deduktion j...@duktion.de wrote: I can confirm the problem. Same java (ubuntu) version here. To reproduce the problem please try: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Java 7 development branch?
Are there plans to have a branch for Clojure in which Java 7 specific functions will be developed and included and updated? For example spit taking a java.nio.file.Path [1] as first arg. Or putting pvec using the Fork/Join lib into core, on that specific feature branch. [1] http://download.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/nio/file/Path.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
try catch and finally
In java the finally block is executed after the catch block. But in clojure, I observed that the finally block is executed before catch block. Is this behavior right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
clojure.java.jdbc: calling mysql stored procedure with OUT or INOUT parameter
How to make a call to a mysql stored procedure with INOUT parameter, and use the OUT parameter to decide whether to rollback or continue with transaction using clojure.java.jdbc? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: try catch and finally
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:36 PM, rakesh rakesh.pulip...@gmail.com wrote: In java the finally block is executed after the catch block. But in clojure, I observed that the finally block is executed before catch block. Is this behavior right. Are you sure? user= (try (println in try) (throw (Exception. oops!)) (catch Exception e (println caught it!)) (finally (println ...and finally))) in try caught it! ...and finally nil -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Problems with namespaces in repljs
Hi Stuart, That's fair enough. Is this the CLJS-57http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJS-57JIRA issue? It's not exactly the error I'm having, but looks to be a broken 'ns' macro all the same. Can I track all of the bugs and known issues on (open and in progress) the JIRA pagehttp://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJS? I'll bee keen to know when the official 'ns' and 'require' are working in the clojurescript repl. Thanks for getting back to me. Tim Washington twash...@gmail.com 416.843.9060 On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Tim, The `ns` macro doesn't work from the ClojureScript REPL right now. This is a known bug caused by the JavaScript code the compiler emits for `ns`. Also, there is no `require` function for the REPL yet. Some people have written versions of `require` and posted them to the list. -Stuart Sierra clojure.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: try catch and finally
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 3:36 PM, rakesh rakesh.pulip...@gmail.com wrote: In java the finally block is executed after the catch block. But in clojure, I observed that the finally block is executed before catch block. Is this behavior right. The behavior is correct. What you are probably seeing is that the side effect of the finally block is showing up *before* the expression completes. Example: (try (Integer/parseInt hi) (catch Exception e catch) (finally (println finally)) ;= finallycatch This is because catch is returned *after* the finally executes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Stanford AI Class
On Aug 12, 6:41 pm, daly d...@axiom-developer.org wrote: In AI this is often modeled as a self-modifying program. The easiest way to see this would be a program that handles a rubics cube problem. Initially it only knows some general rules for manipulation, some measure of progress, and a goal to achieve. The rubic cube is actually a not-so-simple problem, because the function that measures progress is very difficult to write, if you don’t know the algorithm of how to solve a cube. But if you want to have the program find that out, then there would be no point in having a fitness function that already contains the solution. Hmmm. Clojure has immutable data structures. Programs are data structures. Therefore, programs are immutable. CL Programs are also immutable. At some point you will need to call eval or compile. So is it possible to create a Clojure program that modifies itself? Yes, in the same sense as it is possible with CL. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Stanford AI Class
On Aug 12, 10:25 pm, daly d...@axiom-developer.org wrote: Consing up a new function and using eval is certainly possible but then you are essentially just working with an interpreter on the data. This is the same in CL. When you have a GP system that constructs new program trees then inside your fitness function you will eval it. Clojure does not come with an interpreter, so eval results in a compiled program that gets executed. You can of course use recombination and mutation of programs and/or subprograms and thus create a new generation that is now modified, which then gets its fitness measured. How does function invocation actually work in Clojure? Lisp-1. This is much better suited for a (predominantly) functional programming style. Also see this paper by Kent Pitman: http://www.nhplace.com/kent/Papers/Technical-Issues.html (“Probably a programmer who frequently passes functions as arguments or who uses passed arguments functionally finds Lisp1 syntax easier to read than Lisp2 syntax;”) In Common Lisp you fetch the function slot of the symbol and execute it. To modify a function you can (compile (modify-the-source fn)). This will change the function slot of the symbol so it will execute the new version of itself next time. Does anyone know the equivalent in Clojure? Would you have to invoke javac on a file and reload it? The Clojure compile function only seems to know about files, not in-memory objects. In Clojure it is: (eval (modify-the-source fn)). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Stanford AI Class
On Aug 13, 12:16 am, Sergey Didenko sergey.dide...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, Is there a case when AI self-modifying program is much more elegant than AI just-data-modifying program? I just can't figure out any example when there is a lot of sense to go the self-modifying route. They are all data-modifying programs. The thing is that the program is itself the data. It is just a list, nothing more, and you can apply functions that operate on trees. Those can be recombined and/or mutated, and then get executed in a fitness function. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Async Requests in ClojureScript
You could also look at how I do remotes in Pinot. http://github.com/ibdknox/pinot Cheers, Chris. On Aug 16, 12:16 pm, Edmund edmundsjack...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Base, I have a super basic example of this on my blog athttp://boss-level.com/?p=119 It should get you over this hump. Gimme a shout if you have problems, Edmund On 16/08/2011 19:08, Base wrote: Hi All - I am attempting to get started in ClojureScript and am completely flummoxed on getting my connectivity set up. I have a web server running on my local machine such that http://localhost:8080/m yields my data correctly (just a test URL...) I am attempting to connect using the following cljs (ns hello.foo.dat (:require [goog.net.XhrIo :as gxhr] [goog.Uri :as uri] [cljs.reader :as reader])) (defn- extract-response [message] (reader/read-string (. message/target (getResponseText (defn get-data [_] (gxhr/send (goog.Uri. http://localhost:8080/m;) extract-response)) However when I attempt to execute this function in the browser I get 'undefined' returned. Anything you can see here that I am doing wrong? This does appear to execute correctly (i.e. the function is called, as a hard coded return string does return correctly) Any help is most welcomed! Thanks, Base -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Stanford AI Class
On Aug 13, 11:14 pm, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Lee Spector lspec...@hampshire.edu wrote: On the one hand most people who work in genetic programming these days write in non-Lisp languages but evolve Lisp-like programs that are interpreted via simple, specialized interpreters written in those other languages (C, Java, whatever). The ultimate in Greenspunning. :) Exactly! All those people doing GP in C++ end up doing it in Lisp anyway. They write a GP engine that generates trees and manipulates them and then they'll have to write an interpreter for that limited language, which is basically the idea of Lisp. OMG ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Problem with Greeks!
I tried (str Γεια!) and i got ! what can I do to fix it ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Stanford AI Class
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 6:45 PM, André Thieme splendidl...@googlemail.com wrote: On Aug 13, 11:14 pm, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Lee Spector lspec...@hampshire.edu wrote: On the one hand most people who work in genetic programming these days write in non-Lisp languages but evolve Lisp-like programs that are interpreted via simple, specialized interpreters written in those other languages (C, Java, whatever). The ultimate in Greenspunning. :) Exactly! All those people doing GP in C++ end up doing it in Lisp anyway. They write a GP engine that generates trees and manipulates them and then they'll have to write an interpreter for that limited language, which is basically the idea of Lisp. OMG ;) Whereas if you started out with Lisp, you can skip all that and just write: a) a few functions/macros b) something to make/evolve trees of forms whose operator-position symbols name those functions and macros c) (eval evolved-form) and Bob's your uncle. The interpreter you get for free, in the form of the macroexpander and eval. Actually using Lisp is like having library support for your Greenspunning. :) -- Protege: What is this seething mass of parentheses?! Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more civilized age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Problem with Greeks!
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:56 PM, cran1988 rmanolis1...@hotmail.com wrote: I tried (str Γεια!) and i got ! what can I do to fix it ? Set something, somewhere, to UTF-8 that's probably set to ISO-8859-1 or US-ASCII right now. Also, her name would be spelt Λεια, and her famous plea Ηελπ με, Οβι-ωαν Κενοβι! or something like that. :) -- Protege: What is this seething mass of parentheses?! Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more civilized age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Problem with Greeks!
My jvm is already UTF-8 however it works with clojure 1.3.0 beta1 but i have problems i get an error NoSuchMethodError clojure.lang.KeywordLookupSite.init(ILclojure/lang/ Keyword;)V clout.core/request-url (core.clj:53) On Aug 17, 3:30 am, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:56 PM, cran1988 rmanolis1...@hotmail.com wrote: I tried (str Γεια!) and i got ! what can I do to fix it ? Set something, somewhere, to UTF-8 that's probably set to ISO-8859-1 or US-ASCII right now. Also, her name would be spelt Λεια, and her famous plea Ηελπ με, Οβι-ωαν Κενοβι! or something like that. :) -- Protege: What is this seething mass of parentheses?! Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more civilized age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Problem with Greeks!
I don't know about the clojure compiler. But we've run into some issues with the java compiler. There are flags to inform it what file encodings are being used in a file. For example, http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/basic/intl/faq.jsp#set-default-locale Java will make assumptions about output format based on your machine too http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/basic/intl/faq.jsp#default-encoding sorry this isn't really an answer, but it's evidence that you aren't hallucinating anyway, Kevin On Aug 16, 7:09 pm, cran1988 rmanolis1...@hotmail.com wrote: My jvm is already UTF-8 however it works with clojure 1.3.0 beta1 but i have problems i get an error NoSuchMethodError clojure.lang.KeywordLookupSite.init(ILclojure/lang/ Keyword;)V clout.core/request-url (core.clj:53) On Aug 17, 3:30 am, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:56 PM, cran1988 rmanolis1...@hotmail.com wrote: I tried (str Γεια!) and i got ! what can I do to fix it ? Set something, somewhere, to UTF-8 that's probably set to ISO-8859-1 or US-ASCII right now. Also, her name would be spelt Λεια, and her famous plea Ηελπ με, Οβι-ωαν Κενοβι! or something like that. :) -- Protege: What is this seething mass of parentheses?! Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more civilized age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: defining tests for an api to be called by the implementations
actually this isn't as bad as I thought. things work more or less as expected, I can blocke the tests with the test-ns-hook and run them in other namespaces as expected... the reason things ran in my repl but would not compile outside is that there were some missing test dependencies that were in scope in the pom running my repl, but not in the one running the test. lesson learned. Kevin On Aug 15, 11:31 pm, Alan Malloy a...@malloys.org wrote: On Aug 15, 10:16 pm, Kevin Livingston kevinlivingston.pub...@gmail.com wrote: I am working on an api that has an interface and two distinct implementations lets call them: foo and bar. I have a testing routine with a bunch of functions that each call a function to get a clean instance of an implementation, initializes it with some data and then interrogate it. with the exception of calling (new-foo) or (new-bar), foo and bar can be tested identically. I would like to be able to define tests in a namespace for the api, then have a test-foo namespace that calls those tests with *new-test-instance* bound to new-foo. likewise for new bar. because I would like the exact same tests run, the whole point is these things should behave the same at the API level. I don't want to have to copy and paste all my tests and make sure I keep them synchronized, that seems like an error waiting to happen. I can define the tests in test-api with deftest but doing so will cause the test to be run there (when I call mvn clojure:test), and as there is no implementation they will of course fail. I can block test- api from calling it's tests with: (defn test-ns-hook []) but then the tests become a pain to call from another namespace. surely there is a way to do this? (defn test-ns-hook [] (when (bound? #'api-instance) ...))? in test-api with the blocking test-ns-hook, I tried (def the-tests [ (deftest test-1 ) ]) then in test-foo I tried (defn test-ns-hook [] (dorun (map (fn [x] (binding [project.test-api/*new-test-instance* (fn [] (new-foo))] (x))) project.test-api/the-tests))) that doesn't work I keep seeing this: Uncaught exception, not in assertion. expected: nil actual: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/slf4j/impl/ StaticLoggerBinder ... except if I put that exact same test-ns-hook implementation into the repl and call (run-tests) everything checks out *exactly* as expected. I have spent way too many hours on this... help? Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Problem with Greeks!
I am going to try java 7 with clojure On Aug 17, 6:36 am, Kevin Livingston kevinlivingston.pub...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about the clojure compiler. But we've run into some issues with the java compiler. There are flags to inform it what file encodings are being used in a file. For example, http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/basic/intl/faq.jsp#set-d... Java will make assumptions about output format based on your machine too http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/basic/intl/faq.jsp#defau... sorry this isn't really an answer, but it's evidence that you aren't hallucinating anyway, Kevin On Aug 16, 7:09 pm, cran1988 rmanolis1...@hotmail.com wrote: My jvm is already UTF-8 however it works with clojure 1.3.0 beta1 but i have problems i get an error NoSuchMethodError clojure.lang.KeywordLookupSite.init(ILclojure/lang/ Keyword;)V clout.core/request-url (core.clj:53) On Aug 17, 3:30 am, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:56 PM, cran1988 rmanolis1...@hotmail.com wrote: I tried (str Γεια!) and i got ! what can I do to fix it ? Set something, somewhere, to UTF-8 that's probably set to ISO-8859-1 or US-ASCII right now. Also, her name would be spelt Λεια, and her famous plea Ηελπ με, Οβι-ωαν Κενοβι! or something like that. :) -- Protege: What is this seething mass of parentheses?! Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more civilized age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: clojure.java.jdbc input on JDBC-3 (esp. Stuart Sierra!)
Not related to this topic, but just wonder if it's possible to have c.j.j to support Unicode? And if it's already there, how can I use it for Unicode? On Aug 17, 2:17 am, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com wrote: I no longer remember what I was looking at when I wrote that ticket. :) Maybe I just wasn't aware of `insert-records`. Cool. Any thoughts on the struct-map issue? resultset-seq currently uses a deprecated feature - it should just use regular maps, right? I'm not familiar enough with struct-maps to understand the full implications of switching that out... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View --http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. --http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. --http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Problem with Greeks!
THE PROBLEM SOLVED !!! https://groups.google.com/group/clj-noir/browse_thread/thread/b02a740e6db62b58 Thanks for your support ! On Aug 17, 6:58 am, cran1988 rmanolis1...@hotmail.com wrote: I am going to try java 7 with clojure On Aug 17, 6:36 am, Kevin Livingston kevinlivingston.pub...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about the clojure compiler. But we've run into some issues with the java compiler. There are flags to inform it what file encodings are being used in a file. For example, http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/basic/intl/faq.jsp#set-d... Java will make assumptions about output format based on your machine too http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/basic/intl/faq.jsp#defau... sorry this isn't really an answer, but it's evidence that you aren't hallucinating anyway, Kevin On Aug 16, 7:09 pm, cran1988 rmanolis1...@hotmail.com wrote: My jvm is already UTF-8 however it works with clojure 1.3.0 beta1 but i have problems i get an error NoSuchMethodError clojure.lang.KeywordLookupSite.init(ILclojure/lang/ Keyword;)V clout.core/request-url (core.clj:53) On Aug 17, 3:30 am, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:56 PM, cran1988 rmanolis1...@hotmail.com wrote: I tried (str Γεια!) and i got ! what can I do to fix it ? Set something, somewhere, to UTF-8 that's probably set to ISO-8859-1 or US-ASCII right now. Also, her name would be spelt Λεια, and her famous plea Ηελπ με, Οβι-ωαν Κενοβι! or something like that. :) -- Protege: What is this seething mass of parentheses?! Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more civilized age. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Clojure for Android
I'd consider taking this. I've worked a little bit behind the scenes to get Clojure to run better for me personally on android. Recently, I've been working to get ClojureScript to work well for SL4A (Scripting Layer for Android). I wanted to try to get a native Clojure package working for SL4A, but given that the above works pretty well, I need some sort of real motivation to continue the work. Paul // OhPauleez http://www.pauldee.org/blog On Aug 16, 7:31 am, James Swift ja...@3dengineer.com wrote: http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/Android+Support Issues Needs a motivated owner This topic gets a regular mention but I thought it might be worth asking again if it's ever likely to get the 'motivated owner' ? Given that 'reach' was a primary reason for the development of ClojureScript shouldn't the reach of Android encourage someone to go for it? I only wish I was capable of doing it myself :) James. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: Problem with Greeks!
Hi, Am Mittwoch, 17. August 2011 06:53:11 UTC+2 schrieb cran1988: THE PROBLEM SOLVED !!! https://groups.google.com/group/clj-noir/browse_thread/thread/b02a740e6db62b58 To expand a bit on this issue: NoSuchMethodError clojure.lang.KeywordLookupSite.init(ILclojure/lang/Keyword;)V clout.core/request-url (core.clj:53) The source of such error messages is most likely AOT-compilation. You try to use code which was AOT compiled with clojure 1.2.1 with eg. clojure 1.3.0-beta1 at runtime. Then you'll run into this issue. Just don't use AOT compilation when it's not necessary. Sincerely Meikel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
