Re: Clojure has been selected to participate in GSoC 2017!
To summarize the GSoC 2020 discussion so far: - Several individuals seem to be interested. - Alex Miller described some past experience and lessons. - .. and explained what is required to make it happen. - Daniel Compton and Clojurists Together offered their administrative help. - We need a small group or person to take the commitment of making it happen. - Some of us (like me) are thinking about it, not sure yet, and will decide in few weeks. On Sunday, 12 January 2020 01:49:13 UTC+2, Daniel Slutsky wrote: > > GSoC 2020 has been announced. > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline > > > On Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:05:12 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: >> >> Outreachy seems like a great program but like most things, it requires >> significant time and money (https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/). >> >> They need an organization coordinator who can apply, find funds >> ($6500/intern), find mentors, help develop and assess projects. They also >> need mentors who are expected to spend 5-10 hrs/week for 6 weeks during the >> project. >> >> I'm not aware of anyone with the time or money to commit to an effort >> like this for Clojure. >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 3:51 PM Noor Afshan Fathima >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> GSOC would be great. Can someone also look into getting Clojure to >>> participate in Outreachy? >>> >>> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 10:18 PM, Alex Miller >>> wrote: >>> As far as I'm aware the work involved here is: - submitting the organization application (in Jan) - soliciting and writing up project ideas (in Jan/Feb) - soliciting potential mentors for each project (often there is a natural match between idea and mentor) - spring - pairing up selected students/projects and mentors - spring - getting mentors to write evals for their students - summer - accepting funds - fall - if desired, distributing those funds in some way (when I helped Cognitect run it, we redistributed the funds to pay for students to travel to Clojure conferences) - fall Great opportunity for someone to contribute! On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 10:35 AM Daniel Compton wrote: > Hi folks, I'm the secretary of Clojurists Together. > > Thanks very much for the background on GSoC and the kind words Alex :) > > Clojurists Together would be happy to help provide the backing admin > infrastructure (bank accounts, international payments, etc.) and > oversight > to help run GSoC. However, I don't think anyone on the committee has the > bandwidth to be the primary person to lead the GSoC project; we'd need > someone from the community to volunteer to be that person. > > If someone else wants to run this as part of a different organisation > that's also totally fine with us, don't consider this us calling "dibs". > > Thanks, Daniel. > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:34 AM Alex Miller > wrote: > >> GSoC is an amazing opportunity if you get the right combination of an >> appropriately sized project, a motivated student, and a mentor that has >> both sufficient availability and expertise in guiding (like Ambrose's >> Typed >> Clojure work). If any of those aren't right, the project tends to fizzle >> out or go unused so a lot of the time and effort does not result in an >> effectual end result. >> >> To some degree, Clojurists Together is doing the same kind of work >> but prioritizing projects that people care about and developers that are >> already "in" the project rather than students starting fresh (and paying >> more for the work). I think CT has created way more total value for the >> community than GSoC ever did. >> >> But again, depends on goals. If your goal is to connect students more >> closely to Clojure, then GSoC is great for that. >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 2:06:13 PM UTC-6, Daniel Slutsky >> wrote: >>> >>> Ag, Alex, many thanks. >>> >>> These days some of us are trying to think where we should put our >>> efforts in the next few months. This might be one of the things we have >>> to >>> consider. We'll update if we do. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:20:47 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: Any "group" or organization can submit a project to GSoC as long as there are 2+ committers and there are existing releases under an OSI license (which includes EPL). The organization select projects, connects mentors to students, prods people about evaluations, and receives $500/completed student. Students submit proposals (usually these should happen under consultation with the project) and are directly paid stipends by Google for
Re: Clojure has been selected to participate in GSoC 2017!
GSoC 2020 has been announced. https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline On Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:05:12 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: > > Outreachy seems like a great program but like most things, it requires > significant time and money (https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/). > > They need an organization coordinator who can apply, find funds > ($6500/intern), find mentors, help develop and assess projects. They also > need mentors who are expected to spend 5-10 hrs/week for 6 weeks during the > project. > > I'm not aware of anyone with the time or money to commit to an effort like > this for Clojure. > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 3:51 PM Noor Afshan Fathima > wrote: > >> Hello, >> GSOC would be great. Can someone also look into getting Clojure to >> participate in Outreachy? >> >> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 10:18 PM, Alex Miller > > wrote: >> >>> As far as I'm aware the work involved here is: >>> >>> - submitting the organization application (in Jan) >>> - soliciting and writing up project ideas (in Jan/Feb) >>> - soliciting potential mentors for each project (often there is a >>> natural match between idea and mentor) - spring >>> - pairing up selected students/projects and mentors - spring >>> - getting mentors to write evals for their students - summer >>> - accepting funds - fall >>> - if desired, distributing those funds in some way (when I helped >>> Cognitect run it, we redistributed the funds to pay for students to travel >>> to Clojure conferences) - fall >>> >>> Great opportunity for someone to contribute! >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 10:35 AM Daniel Compton >> > wrote: >>> Hi folks, I'm the secretary of Clojurists Together. Thanks very much for the background on GSoC and the kind words Alex :) Clojurists Together would be happy to help provide the backing admin infrastructure (bank accounts, international payments, etc.) and oversight to help run GSoC. However, I don't think anyone on the committee has the bandwidth to be the primary person to lead the GSoC project; we'd need someone from the community to volunteer to be that person. If someone else wants to run this as part of a different organisation that's also totally fine with us, don't consider this us calling "dibs". Thanks, Daniel. On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:34 AM Alex Miller >>> > wrote: > GSoC is an amazing opportunity if you get the right combination of an > appropriately sized project, a motivated student, and a mentor that has > both sufficient availability and expertise in guiding (like Ambrose's > Typed > Clojure work). If any of those aren't right, the project tends to fizzle > out or go unused so a lot of the time and effort does not result in an > effectual end result. > > To some degree, Clojurists Together is doing the same kind of work but > prioritizing projects that people care about and developers that are > already "in" the project rather than students starting fresh (and paying > more for the work). I think CT has created way more total value for the > community than GSoC ever did. > > But again, depends on goals. If your goal is to connect students more > closely to Clojure, then GSoC is great for that. > > > On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 2:06:13 PM UTC-6, Daniel Slutsky wrote: >> >> Ag, Alex, many thanks. >> >> These days some of us are trying to think where we should put our >> efforts in the next few months. This might be one of the things we have >> to >> consider. We'll update if we do. >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:20:47 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: >>> >>> Any "group" or organization can submit a project to GSoC as long as >>> there are 2+ committers and there are existing releases under an OSI >>> license (which includes EPL). The organization select projects, >>> connects >>> mentors to students, prods people about evaluations, and receives >>> $500/completed student. Students submit proposals (usually these should >>> happen under consultation with the project) and are directly paid >>> stipends >>> by Google for completed projects. I think the organization application >>> is >>> usually open in January. >>> >>> I think there are several groups in the Clojure ecosystem that would >>> potentially be great orgs for this - CIDER, ClojureBridge, clj-commons, >>> etc. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:23:43 AM UTC-6, Ag Ibragimov wrote: Would you do it Daniel, would you apply? I apologize for if that sounds like I'm brazenly pushing you. If I had capacity to do that, I would volunteer, alas I'm afraid I don't even know how that works. It would be awesome
