To summarize the GSoC 2020 discussion so far: - Several individuals seem to be interested. - Alex Miller described some past experience and lessons. - .. and explained what is required to make it happen. - Daniel Compton and Clojurists Together offered their administrative help. - We need a small group or person to take the commitment of making it happen. - Some of us (like me) are thinking about it, not sure yet, and will decide in few weeks.
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 01:49:13 UTC+2, Daniel Slutsky wrote: > > GSoC 2020 has been announced. > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline > > > On Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:05:12 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: >> >> Outreachy seems like a great program but like most things, it requires >> significant time and money (https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/). >> >> They need an organization coordinator who can apply, find funds >> ($6500/intern), find mentors, help develop and assess projects. They also >> need mentors who are expected to spend 5-10 hrs/week for 6 weeks during the >> project. >> >> I'm not aware of anyone with the time or money to commit to an effort >> like this for Clojure. >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 3:51 PM Noor Afshan Fathima <afshan...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> GSOC would be great. Can someone also look into getting Clojure to >>> participate in Outreachy? >>> >>> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 10:18 PM, Alex Miller <al...@puredanger.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> As far as I'm aware the work involved here is: >>>> >>>> - submitting the organization application (in Jan) >>>> - soliciting and writing up project ideas (in Jan/Feb) >>>> - soliciting potential mentors for each project (often there is a >>>> natural match between idea and mentor) - spring >>>> - pairing up selected students/projects and mentors - spring >>>> - getting mentors to write evals for their students - summer >>>> - accepting funds - fall >>>> - if desired, distributing those funds in some way (when I helped >>>> Cognitect run it, we redistributed the funds to pay for students to travel >>>> to Clojure conferences) - fall >>>> >>>> Great opportunity for someone to contribute! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 10:35 AM Daniel Compton <daniel.co...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks, I'm the secretary of Clojurists Together. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks very much for the background on GSoC and the kind words Alex :) >>>>> >>>>> Clojurists Together would be happy to help provide the backing admin >>>>> infrastructure (bank accounts, international payments, etc.) and >>>>> oversight >>>>> to help run GSoC. However, I don't think anyone on the committee has the >>>>> bandwidth to be the primary person to lead the GSoC project; we'd need >>>>> someone from the community to volunteer to be that person. >>>>> >>>>> If someone else wants to run this as part of a different organisation >>>>> that's also totally fine with us, don't consider this us calling "dibs". >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Daniel. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:34 AM Alex Miller <al...@puredanger.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> GSoC is an amazing opportunity if you get the right combination of an >>>>>> appropriately sized project, a motivated student, and a mentor that has >>>>>> both sufficient availability and expertise in guiding (like Ambrose's >>>>>> Typed >>>>>> Clojure work). If any of those aren't right, the project tends to fizzle >>>>>> out or go unused so a lot of the time and effort does not result in an >>>>>> effectual end result. >>>>>> >>>>>> To some degree, Clojurists Together is doing the same kind of work >>>>>> but prioritizing projects that people care about and developers that are >>>>>> already "in" the project rather than students starting fresh (and paying >>>>>> more for the work). I think CT has created way more total value for the >>>>>> community than GSoC ever did. >>>>>> >>>>>> But again, depends on goals. If your goal is to connect students more >>>>>> closely to Clojure, then GSoC is great for that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 2:06:13 PM UTC-6, Daniel Slutsky >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ag, Alex, many thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These days some of us are trying to think where we should put our >>>>>>> efforts in the next few months. This might be one of the things we have >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> consider. We'll update if we do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:20:47 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any "group" or organization can submit a project to GSoC as long as >>>>>>>> there are 2+ committers and there are existing releases under an OSI >>>>>>>> license (which includes EPL). The organization select projects, >>>>>>>> connects >>>>>>>> mentors to students, prods people about evaluations, and receives >>>>>>>> $500/completed student. Students submit proposals (usually these >>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>> happen under consultation with the project) and are directly paid >>>>>>>> stipends >>>>>>>> by Google for completed projects. I think the organization application >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> usually open in January. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think there are several groups in the Clojure ecosystem that >>>>>>>> would potentially be great orgs for this - CIDER, ClojureBridge, >>>>>>>> clj-commons, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:23:43 AM UTC-6, Ag Ibragimov >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would you do it Daniel, would you apply? I apologize for if that >>>>>>>>> sounds like I'm brazenly pushing you. If I had capacity to do that, I >>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>> volunteer, alas I'm afraid I don't even know how that works. >>>>>>>>> It would be awesome if Clojure once again accepted in GSoC. How >>>>>>>>> can we (ordinary Clojuristas) help to get there? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun 01 Dec 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Slutsky <daniel...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Thanks so much, that helps to know. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Sunday, 1 December 2019 06:36:33 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> We applied and were not accepted for a couple years. Having >>>>>>>>> done some of >>>>>>>>> >> the admin/org stuff in the past, I don't really want to do it >>>>>>>>> again, but an >>>>>>>>> >> organization like Clojurists Together would be great for that >>>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>>> >> (although I'm not looking to add any work to anyone else >>>>>>>>> either). It's not >>>>>>>>> >> really that hard, just a little tedious to deal with the money >>>>>>>>> parts. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 1:37:14 PM UTC-6, Daniel >>>>>>>>> Slutsky wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>> has there been thoughts about clojure activity in GSoC since >>>>>>>>> 2017? >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> On Monday, 6 March 2017 11:35:41 UTC+2, Daniel Solano Gómez >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> We are pleased to announce that Google has selected Clojure >>>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>>> >>>> mentoring organisation for this year’s summer of code! This >>>>>>>>> means that >>>>>>>>> >>>> Google will sponsor students from around the world to work on >>>>>>>>> projects that >>>>>>>>> >>>> are part of the Clojure ecosystem. Now that we know that >>>>>>>>> Clojure will be >>>>>>>>> >>>> participating, what happens next? >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Getting involved >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> The student application period will be open from the 20th of >>>>>>>>> March >>>>>>>>> >>>> through the 3rd of April. In the meantime, there are a number >>>>>>>>> of ways to >>>>>>>>> >>>> get involved: >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> *Mentors* >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> If you maintain an open source Clojure(Script) project and >>>>>>>>> would like to >>>>>>>>> >>>> grow it, you should consider becoming a mentor. You can find >>>>>>>>> out more about >>>>>>>>> >>>> what being a mentor is about out on the mentors page >>>>>>>>> >>>> <http://clojure-gsoc.org/mentors/>. >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> *Students* >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> While it is still to early to formally apply as GSoC student, >>>>>>>>> this is a >>>>>>>>> >>>> great time to start thinking about project ideas and reach >>>>>>>>> out to potential >>>>>>>>> >>>> mentors. Check out the students page < >>>>>>>>> http://clojure-gsoc.org/students/> >>>>>>>>> >>>> for more information on how to apply successfully. >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> *Everyone else* >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Even if you can’t participate as student or don’t want to be >>>>>>>>> a mentor, >>>>>>>>> >>>> you can still help by letting people know about GSoC at your >>>>>>>>> local Clojure >>>>>>>>> >>>> meetup, university, or other local group. >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> We would also like to extend a big thank you to all of the >>>>>>>>> people who >>>>>>>>> >>>> contributed to our project ideas >>>>>>>>> >>>> <http://clojure-gsoc.org/project-ideas/>. 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